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Eiii
United States2566 Posts
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On June 28 2011 11:57 youngminii wrote: Good post GMarshal, I wasn't aware scum were targeting lurkers too this game. It's almost as if they're a 3rd party faction. I like how you make a giant warning against lurkers when the game itself is designed to punish them. Sure it is, townies are often lurkers. And it would not be the first time we've landed in a lylo situation with more lurkers than is healthy. Yes the lurkerchecks punish scum lurkers, some, but town lurkers are a *huge* hindrance, and what do they care if they get DTed? | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
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PaqMan
United States1475 Posts
On June 28 2011 11:59 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Do people agree blues should use their extra lurker KP, or no? I think the answer is obvious enough. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
On June 28 2011 11:59 Eiii wrote: he's just taking advantage of the lurker-killing mechanic to softclaim a KP role, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Ahh yes but which KP role, Vig/MH/Scum? @Wiggles, I'd shoot straight into anyone that's been on the lurker list for more than a day. No point letting a lurker live when you have the power to take them out. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
Lurker KP is going to be COOL! | ||
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chaos13
Canada885 Posts
This means we don't have to worry about pressuring lurkers or inactives, as roles will take care of it. Therefore, our Day 1 priority needs to be creating a good pro-town atmosphere. This means not making random accusations, and not spamming and posting one-liners. Keep your contributions quality rather than quantity. Do not be afraid of the lurker list and post every single thought you have if it isn't relevant. Let's make it so mafia cannot hide due to us just being too damn pro-town. | ||
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Hyaach
Singapore1737 Posts
Its more likely to hit a townie early in the game counting the ratio. But then again who doesn't like killing. | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
On June 28 2011 12:06 Hyaach wrote: Since every action is time based, I'm against blues using the KP as and when they like. Its more likely to hit a townie early in the game counting the ratio. But then again who doesn't like killing. Well, the lurker list doesn't come into effect until the next day cycle. Also, blues can use their KP at their own discretion for which lurker to hit, and can choose to save it for Day 3 and hit a repeat offender. The whole point is to have the threat of dying looming over your head, so that you are forced to post and contribute in order to not show up on the lurker list. If we told blues they can't shoot lurkers, then lurkers would just lurk. This way, they're forced to actually say something. | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On June 28 2011 12:06 Hyaach wrote: Since every action is time based, I'm against blues using the KP as and when they like. Its more likely to hit a townie early in the game counting the ratio. But then again who doesn't like killing. So, how do you propose to "direct" the blues? I mean the alternative is exactly what you are against, so you must have a proposition as to how to keep them from using them "when and how" they like. I'm personally fine with blues using their own discretion. | ||
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hiro protagonist
1294 Posts
I am 100% behind Gmarshal about lurkers/trolls. that is all I have to say about that. so everyone, lets get into it: towns lurker KP should be used once any lurker list is up. As such, I doubt very much that we will need to do a policy lynch on lurkers (which is something I almost always advocate). Conversely: mafia, with the lurker mod on, will try and be spammy. Vigs, please,please,PLEASE, just shoot anyone that is cluttering up the thread with nonsense. | ||
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sinani206
United States1959 Posts
I'm pretty annoying, so I'm going to pressure ##Vote: Sinani201 into being active because I know how much time he spends sitting at his computer and I don't want him to die from lurker KP his first game. If someone dies from lurker KP, do they get banlisted? | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
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sinani206
United States1959 Posts
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Hyaach
Singapore1737 Posts
Post now and die in 1 hour. I'm not against killing, its just lurk and be dead is too strong an approach. But i agree a lurking townie is as good as a scum. | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On June 28 2011 12:17 Hyaach wrote: Since the lurker list comes after day 2. And KP are time base, i propose a buffer time of probably 1 hour? Since GM already came out soft-claiming a role with KP. we can use him to pressure lurkers. Post now and die in 1 hour. I'm not against killing, its just lurk and be dead is too strong an approach. But i agree a lurking townie is as good as a scum. I haven't claimed any KP. Don't jump to assumptions, its not healthy ^_^ I won't confirm or deny anything about my role. Please cease *discussing* my role, it will get you nowhere and will not help us find mafia. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
On June 28 2011 12:13 hiro protagonist wrote: Sup town! I am 100% behind Gmarshal about lurkers/trolls. that is all I have to say about that. so everyone, lets get into it: towns lurker KP should be used once any lurker list is up. As such, I doubt very much that we will need to do a policy lynch on lurkers (which is something I almost always advocate). Conversely: mafia, with the lurker mod on, will try and be spammy. Vigs, please,please,PLEASE, just shoot anyone that is cluttering up the thread with nonsense. Do not do this, Vig you should be targeting who they feel is scum, not anyone that is spammy. First off, scum are not stupid, they won't be spamming up the thread for the sake of spamming the thread. Second, by saying "just shoot anyone that is cluttering up the thread with nonsense" in the thread will obviously signal scum to be very delicate and careful with their posting. FoS on you for this, it's a very flawed plan, everyone knows what a lurker is and what's not, if someone appears to be spammy and their playstyle lines up with scum then go ahead and shoot them but as soon as you start directing who the Vig should hit publically is when mafia get an advantage. | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On June 28 2011 12:17 Hyaach wrote: Since the lurker list comes after day 2. And KP are time base, i propose a buffer time of probably 1 hour? Since GM already came out soft-claiming a role with KP. we can use him to pressure lurkers. Post now and die in 1 hour. I'm not against killing, its just lurk and be dead is too strong an approach. But i agree a lurking townie is as good as a scum. Also please answer my question you said you don't want blues acting on their own discretion, how *do* you want them to act? Or were you talking exclusively about roles with KP? | ||
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Nisani201
United States1400 Posts
On June 28 2011 12:15 sinani206 wrote: Blues should play however and whenever they want. I shouldn't even have to mention that the townie is the most important role in the game. Analysis wins games, not blues. Let's get some pressure going. I'm pretty annoying, so I'm going to pressure ##Vote: Sinani201 into being active because I know how much time he spends sitting at his computer and I don't want him to die from lurker KP his first game. If someone dies from lurker KP, do they get banlisted? You're already voting for me? First off, I am not Sinani201. I'm Nisani201. Second of all, if you want me to make a post, you could have asked nicely. I don't have anything to contribute yet. I'm reading every single post, and when I feel like I have enough information, I will contribute. | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
On June 28 2011 12:20 youngminii wrote: Do not do this, Vig you should be targeting who they feel is scum, not anyone that is spammy. First off, scum are not stupid, they won't be spamming up the thread for the sake of spamming the thread. Second, by saying "just shoot anyone that is cluttering up the thread with nonsense" in the thread will obviously signal scum to be very delicate and careful with their posting. FoS on you for this, it's a very flawed plan, everyone knows what a lurker is and what's not, if someone appears to be spammy and their playstyle lines up with scum then go ahead and shoot them but as soon as you start directing who the Vig should hit publically is when mafia get an advantage. Also, since lurking is defined by third party judgement, there's a chance that Spammers will also show up on the lurker list, due to quality of posts and actual word count. Shoot who you think is scummy, not who you think is worthless. -_- | ||
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