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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
June 28 2011 02:59 GMT
#141
he's just taking advantage of the lurker-killing mechanic to softclaim a KP role, I wouldn't worry about it too much.
:3
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 28 2011 03:00 GMT
#142
On June 28 2011 11:57 youngminii wrote:
Good post GMarshal, I wasn't aware scum were targeting lurkers too this game. It's almost as if they're a 3rd party faction. I like how you make a giant warning against lurkers when the game itself is designed to punish them.


Sure it is, townies are often lurkers. And it would not be the first time we've landed in a lylo situation with more lurkers than is healthy. Yes the lurkerchecks punish scum lurkers, some, but town lurkers are a *huge* hindrance, and what do they care if they get DTed?
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 28 2011 03:01 GMT
#143
Oh, I missed that vigis get an extra shot against lurkers, cool.
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PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
June 28 2011 03:02 GMT
#144
On June 28 2011 11:59 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Do people agree blues should use their extra lurker KP, or no?


I think the answer is obvious enough.
t(ツ)t
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 28 2011 03:03 GMT
#145
On June 28 2011 11:59 Eiii wrote:
he's just taking advantage of the lurker-killing mechanic to softclaim a KP role, I wouldn't worry about it too much.

Ahh yes but which KP role, Vig/MH/Scum?

@Wiggles, I'd shoot straight into anyone that's been on the lurker list for more than a day. No point letting a lurker live when you have the power to take them out.
lalala
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
June 28 2011 03:05 GMT
#146
Perhaps at their own discretion...obviously dt checks would be wasted on lurkers, so maybe look at their VERY few posts and try and divine the most likely-to-be-mafia lurkers? Or maybe we come to a consensus as a town as to which lurkers to target?

Lurker KP is going to be COOL!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
June 28 2011 03:05 GMT
#147
Lurkers should be shot wherever and whenever possible. It may mean that our DT's lurker checks are not as effective (or should not be used at all even), but the activity levels will make up for that. Lurkers don't do us any good. This will also remove a very common, very effective mafia tactic, and force the inexperienced players, who would naturally gravitate towards lurking, to actually contribute, and therefore be more likely to slip up.
This means we don't have to worry about pressuring lurkers or inactives, as roles will take care of it.

Therefore, our Day 1 priority needs to be creating a good pro-town atmosphere. This means not making random accusations, and not spamming and posting one-liners. Keep your contributions quality rather than quantity. Do not be afraid of the lurker list and post every single thought you have if it isn't relevant.
Let's make it so mafia cannot hide due to us just being too damn pro-town.
Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
June 28 2011 03:06 GMT
#148
Since every action is time based, I'm against blues using the KP as and when they like.
Its more likely to hit a townie early in the game counting the ratio.
But then again who doesn't like killing.
Thailand is my new obsession
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
June 28 2011 03:09 GMT
#149
On June 28 2011 12:06 Hyaach wrote:
Since every action is time based, I'm against blues using the KP as and when they like.
Its more likely to hit a townie early in the game counting the ratio.
But then again who doesn't like killing.


Well, the lurker list doesn't come into effect until the next day cycle. Also, blues can use their KP at their own discretion for which lurker to hit, and can choose to save it for Day 3 and hit a repeat offender. The whole point is to have the threat of dying looming over your head, so that you are forced to post and contribute in order to not show up on the lurker list. If we told blues they can't shoot lurkers, then lurkers would just lurk. This way, they're forced to actually say something.
you gotta dance
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 28 2011 03:10 GMT
#150
On June 28 2011 12:06 Hyaach wrote:
Since every action is time based, I'm against blues using the KP as and when they like.
Its more likely to hit a townie early in the game counting the ratio.
But then again who doesn't like killing.


So, how do you propose to "direct" the blues? I mean the alternative is exactly what you are against, so you must have a proposition as to how to keep them from using them "when and how" they like.

I'm personally fine with blues using their own discretion.
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hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
June 28 2011 03:13 GMT
#151
Sup town!

I am 100% behind Gmarshal about lurkers/trolls. that is all I have to say about that.

so everyone, lets get into it: towns lurker KP should be used once any lurker list is up. As such, I doubt very much that we will need to do a policy lynch on lurkers (which is something I almost always advocate).

Conversely: mafia, with the lurker mod on, will try and be spammy. Vigs, please,please,PLEASE, just shoot anyone that is cluttering up the thread with nonsense.

"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
June 28 2011 03:15 GMT
#152
Blues should play however and whenever they want. I shouldn't even have to mention that the townie is the most important role in the game. Analysis wins games, not blues. Let's get some pressure going.

I'm pretty annoying, so I'm going to pressure ##Vote: Sinani201 into being active because I know how much time he spends sitting at his computer and I don't want him to die from lurker KP his first game.

If someone dies from lurker KP, do they get banlisted?
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 28 2011 03:16 GMT
#153
Role received. Canon fodder checking in. I'm going to bed. Be happy to read what you guys put up overnight. G'night.
Life can only kill you once.
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
June 28 2011 03:16 GMT
#154
Also, where's my voting thread?
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
June 28 2011 03:17 GMT
#155
Since the lurker list comes after day 2. And KP are time base, i propose a buffer time of probably 1 hour? Since GM already came out soft-claiming a role with KP. we can use him to pressure lurkers.

Post now and die in 1 hour.

I'm not against killing, its just lurk and be dead is too strong an approach.
But i agree a lurking townie is as good as a scum.
Thailand is my new obsession
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 28 2011 03:19 GMT
#156
On June 28 2011 12:17 Hyaach wrote:
Since the lurker list comes after day 2. And KP are time base, i propose a buffer time of probably 1 hour? Since GM already came out soft-claiming a role with KP. we can use him to pressure lurkers.

Post now and die in 1 hour.

I'm not against killing, its just lurk and be dead is too strong an approach.
But i agree a lurking townie is as good as a scum.


I haven't claimed any KP. Don't jump to assumptions, its not healthy ^_^

I won't confirm or deny anything about my role. Please cease *discussing* my role, it will get you nowhere and will not help us find mafia.
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youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 28 2011 03:20 GMT
#157
On June 28 2011 12:13 hiro protagonist wrote:
Sup town!

I am 100% behind Gmarshal about lurkers/trolls. that is all I have to say about that.

so everyone, lets get into it: towns lurker KP should be used once any lurker list is up. As such, I doubt very much that we will need to do a policy lynch on lurkers (which is something I almost always advocate).

Conversely: mafia, with the lurker mod on, will try and be spammy. Vigs, please,please,PLEASE, just shoot anyone that is cluttering up the thread with nonsense.


Do not do this, Vig you should be targeting who they feel is scum, not anyone that is spammy. First off, scum are not stupid, they won't be spamming up the thread for the sake of spamming the thread. Second, by saying "just shoot anyone that is cluttering up the thread with nonsense" in the thread will obviously signal scum to be very delicate and careful with their posting.

FoS on you for this, it's a very flawed plan, everyone knows what a lurker is and what's not, if someone appears to be spammy and their playstyle lines up with scum then go ahead and shoot them but as soon as you start directing who the Vig should hit publically is when mafia get an advantage.
lalala
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 28 2011 03:21 GMT
#158
On June 28 2011 12:17 Hyaach wrote:
Since the lurker list comes after day 2. And KP are time base, i propose a buffer time of probably 1 hour? Since GM already came out soft-claiming a role with KP. we can use him to pressure lurkers.

Post now and die in 1 hour.

I'm not against killing, its just lurk and be dead is too strong an approach.
But i agree a lurking townie is as good as a scum.


Also please answer my question you said you don't want blues acting on their own discretion, how *do* you want them to act? Or were you talking exclusively about roles with KP?
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Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
June 28 2011 03:21 GMT
#159
On June 28 2011 12:15 sinani206 wrote:
Blues should play however and whenever they want. I shouldn't even have to mention that the townie is the most important role in the game. Analysis wins games, not blues. Let's get some pressure going.

I'm pretty annoying, so I'm going to pressure ##Vote: Sinani201 into being active because I know how much time he spends sitting at his computer and I don't want him to die from lurker KP his first game.

If someone dies from lurker KP, do they get banlisted?


You're already voting for me?

First off, I am not Sinani201. I'm Nisani201.

Second of all, if you want me to make a post, you could have asked nicely.

I don't have anything to contribute yet. I'm reading every single post, and when I feel like I have enough information, I will contribute.
Enjoy your day.
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
June 28 2011 03:24 GMT
#160
On June 28 2011 12:20 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 12:13 hiro protagonist wrote:
Sup town!

I am 100% behind Gmarshal about lurkers/trolls. that is all I have to say about that.

so everyone, lets get into it: towns lurker KP should be used once any lurker list is up. As such, I doubt very much that we will need to do a policy lynch on lurkers (which is something I almost always advocate).

Conversely: mafia, with the lurker mod on, will try and be spammy. Vigs, please,please,PLEASE, just shoot anyone that is cluttering up the thread with nonsense.


Do not do this, Vig you should be targeting who they feel is scum, not anyone that is spammy. First off, scum are not stupid, they won't be spamming up the thread for the sake of spamming the thread. Second, by saying "just shoot anyone that is cluttering up the thread with nonsense" in the thread will obviously signal scum to be very delicate and careful with their posting.

FoS on you for this, it's a very flawed plan, everyone knows what a lurker is and what's not, if someone appears to be spammy and their playstyle lines up with scum then go ahead and shoot them but as soon as you start directing who the Vig should hit publically is when mafia get an advantage.


Also, since lurking is defined by third party judgement, there's a chance that Spammers will also show up on the lurker list, due to quality of posts and actual word count. Shoot who you think is scummy, not who you think is worthless. -_-
you gotta dance
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