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can i get /in ? still technically a noobie :D | ||
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get me some trancestorm up in this bitch and it's a PARTY | ||
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On June 17 2011 03:36 omgCRAZY wrote: Show nested quote + On June 17 2011 02:51 gtrsrs wrote: nice this looks like a really fun roster to play with get me some trancestorm up in this bitch and it's a PARTY Are you sad you don't get to play with iGrok? to say i'm just sad would be an understatement no free win this game | ||
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On June 17 2011 05:48 Xedat wrote: Omg I'm so excited for this. I read all the rules twice and just want to ask to anyone willing to answer (before the game starts) since these were not answered in the thread rules: 1) Since PMs are not allowed, how would mafia communicate with each other? 2) Once someone dies whether it be by votes or mafia hit, will their roles be revealed? Thanks and GL everyone! (I've only played SC2 Mafia before and got hooked) Naaa, just kidding, please don't try to lynch me ;-) Hmm, a bit suspicious no? Right when the PM are getting sent out too. Scum slip? | ||
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On June 17 2011 06:49 Mataza wrote: Curiosity ^doesn't get it at all | ||
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On June 17 2011 07:03 Xedat wrote: http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3vh2 oh my god i lirl'd so hard poor mataza XD pretty soon he's going to be intentionally fucking up vote tallies to get back at us | ||
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you know one thing i never understand? how exactly do games get started? like where does the first FoS come from? i know last game it was because freeloader asked a rookie question and some mafia hopped on it. but other games i feel like there's nothing to go on. i'm hosting a full-role game on another forum right now and there are like 4 posts per day between 20 players because everyone just tries to win at night and no one wants to talk in order to not get suspicions on them. it's super frustrating to watch because it's boring as hell but i kinda see where they're coming from. anyways MAYBE I SHOULD SAY SOMETHING SUSPICIOUS TO GET US STARTED | ||
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On June 18 2011 06:13 Treadmill wrote: Well, I'm gonna start by tossing out something that should be fairly obvious. If we have a DT, they should claim as soon as they hit a red. With only 3 mafia members, getting rid of a single one would be fantastic, and drop their KP right away. Obviously they shouldn't claim if they only hit a townie (though they maybe should claim to stop a mislynch? No so sure about this). I think we can safely ignore the possibility of the set-up being the roleblocker, 2 goons, 9 townies, because that would be stupid. disagree at all points since we potentially have a roleblocker (who i might accidentally call a "hooker" as habit from epicmafia, just a heads up), the mafia doesn't actually need to kill a power role to nullify it. they can hook it all game and go after other townies since a confirmed DT that can't provide reports is worse than the possibility that there's a DT out there somewhere. a DT should only *definitely* claim if he's got a guilty when there are TWO mafia left. there are no millers in any set-up so his reports will be 100% accurate, and narrowing us down to 1 mafia from 2 (especially if that means a 50% chance at hitting a roleblocker if there is one) is better than sacrificing his power to get a single goon. IMO. also i don't think it's safe to ignore any set-ups as possibilities. while it would certainly make for a less "fun" game, there's strategic merit in every set-up including the almost all-'nilla set-up. just "assuming" we have blue roles would benefit the mafia, as we may wait for a medic save or detective report that never comes for reference on this page, these are the possible set-ups: 1 Mafia Role Blocker, 2 Mafia Goons, 7 Town, 1 Medic, 1 Detective 1 Mafia Role Blocker, 2 Mafia Goons, 9 Town 3 Mafia Goons, 1 Medic, 8 Town. 3 Mafia Goons, 1 Detective, 8 Town. | ||
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On June 18 2011 06:41 Treadmill wrote: I was ignoring that possibility more because of the strangeness of a role-blocker with no roles to block. I suppose that GM could just be screwing with us though. oh herp. you're right i didn't even consider that. yes it does make it seem less likely on the other hand the mafia won't know the set-up either. with the 2 goons and 1 hooker they could think that there are power roles so it's a mindfuck to them too. i guess it matters less to them since they want all of us dead regardless if we bleed blue or green but yeah anyways we should keep the set-up possibilities fresh every couple of pages and update it or eliminate possibilities after every kill. also it should go without saying but if we have one, the medic should never claim unless he is going to be lynched or unless one of his confirmed saves is going to be lynched. he doesn't have to lay low (see GGQ's post at the end of mafia XL about how a blue should play) because he doesn't WANT to look like a medic, but he shouldn't broadcast his role unless it the town is lynching his clear. maybe the medic can claim in a LYLO situation but i'm hesitant to say the medic SHOULD claim in LYLO because the mafia will likely claim medic as well. play it by ear | ||
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On June 18 2011 07:41 Drazerk wrote: We should find out if there is roll blocker asap that's a great idea Drazerk and i approve 100% now, how do you propose we go about finding out if there is a roleblocker? | ||
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On June 18 2011 08:31 Treadmill wrote: Show nested quote + On June 18 2011 08:16 supersoft wrote: Dt sees the color of the checked player. and I think DT should never roleclaim asap. it's much better to give some hints by "analyzing" players if he found someone. when he got two mafia, I agree he should probably roleclaim. but since we don't know whether there is a medic, it would be bad if we lose our only blue in exchange to one mafia. It wouldn't be bad at all. DT is good because they let us know where the mafia is. If they aren't doing that then they are useless. We don't score points at the end for how many blues are alive or something. DT claiming as soon as they hit red helps us by a. giving us a verified lynch (either the person accused or the person who claimed DT must be mafia with no miller/framer/whatever) and killing 1/3 of the mafia b. preventing a possible mislynch (any lynch based on posting is less accurate then one based on DT check) c. it also gives us information to find the other mafia members from the vote list, posting, etc. it doesn't work like that scum can just as easily say "i'm the detective, i have a guilty on gtrsrs" and who am i to say they're lying? likewise if the real detective comes forward and says "i'm the detective i have a guilty on gtrsrs" then i can easily step up and say "no I'M the real detective i have a guilty on treadmill!". with no mafia dead and a potential roleblocker alive, the DT is fucking himself by outting. you need to do it strategically also we can't simply go on whether or not someone claims roleblocked because as someone said, mafia can claim roleblocked. a roleblocker doesn't have to block either, so he might not block and we go "oh hey no roleblocker we must be in set-up XXX" when they're just pulling our legs. basically we need to do this via scumhunting until certain conditions are met, and only THEN should people start claiming | ||
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don't back down bro i'm gonna go ahead and piggyback off that freeloader you got your free pass last game you freeloader. you know well enough by now that posts like this \/ On June 18 2011 10:35 freeloader625 wrote: Show nested quote + On June 18 2011 10:16 aprudds wrote: Hey Freeloader you intend of contributing this round instead of making random comments all game long? You sound angry. Was it because you failed to lynch me last game? :D Seriously though, I'll contribute more this game. Pinky swear! accomplish nothing. so instead of posting this, why don't you make an analysis or contribute in some way | ||
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On June 18 2011 11:48 gtrsrs wrote: don't back down bro we have to start by applying pressure to someone minus whale be freeloader since we gave him a freebie last game | ||
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i'm leaning to someone else but no need to *not* vote for the lurker at this point in case i can't get on later ##vote: Lord Vatti | ||
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i think the logical thing to do for now is to remove your votes from Drazerk in my earlier post i said i was leaning to someone, and that person is Drazerk, but the point remains that Lord Vatti is suspiciously MIA. here's what potentially could happen: 1. Lord Vatti is townie without a role, saw that he didn't have a role, and afk'd out of the game. he will be modkilled. he could even be mafia but i doubt it. 2. the town votes for Drazerk on what can only be described as moderate-at-best suspicions. 2a. Drazerk flips townie. we're now down 2 townies and 0 mafia. it's as if 2 nights have passed (via 2 mafia kills) but we'll only have the info from 1 night's worth of night actions (if we even *have* any blues). 2b. Drazerk flips mafia. our hunches were correct. high five town. 2c. Drazerk flips power role. oh shit, his increased activity was because he's got a more prominent role. fuck our lives. 3. the town votes for Lord Vatti. since he was queued up to be modkilled, we lose nothing, and get a free night of investigations, potential saves, both, or neither. so with all that in mind, and noting that i'm NOT defending Drazerk (for he is my FoS at the moment, but it is an extremely weak FoS), i still think we should pile the votes onto Lord Vatti instead. best case scenario we kill an afk mafia. worst case scenario we lose a townie that we would have lost anyways. if we keep our votes on drazerk, the worst-case goes up to losing 2 townies. so with that in mind, i think that until Lord Vatti shows up to contribute, no matter how big of a hunch/suspicion we have of Drazerk, we should not vote him until we're all present. once Lord Vatti shows up i'm all for pressuring Drazerk, i just don't want to lose 2 townies on day 1 | ||
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how fair would this game be if, when we lynched a townie, mafia got 2 kills? that would suck right? well numerically, mislynching today would be the same. let's say Drazerk flips town. now mafia gets "2 kills" in Lord Vatti and someone else. at least Drazerk has the POTENTIAL to contribute at this point. LV's contributions are absolutely nothing. i'm glad you brought up the vigilante point aprudds. don't we know too well that just because a vigilante CAN kill someone at night, doesn't mean he SHOULD? likewise, now that lynching is our only KP, just because we CAN lynch someone doesn't mean we HAVE to, especially with a modkill on the block. and i know i look so scummy for this but i'm gonna stick with my guns here and ask you to vote for Lord Vatti til he shows up to give some input. this might just be the epicmafia vet in me speaking. but when we have someone who is actively lurking, we vote for them. most of the time once the votes pile up, they show up in the discussion. but if not, vote-kicking them is the best way to progress the game, as they would have "vegged out" and died anyways. as soon as LV shows up i'm happy to throw my vote on drazerk. but for the time being, i have *minimal* suspicion of drazerk. i'd rather make a harmless vote than vote for someone based on minimal suspicions. of course as soon as LV shows up, the *minimal* suspicion will be my greatest suspicion so i'll change then. but please don't let mafia jump up to a 3 kill advantage this early | ||
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for now i am just afraid of starting the game down 3 townies instead of 2 | ||
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i knew i would regret trying to play smart this game. note to self: when playing with rookies just tunnel someone. take your votes off me i'm not scum. it's father's day, look at who's starting the bandwagon and who's jumping on it on me, assuming that i don't have time to mount a defense. well surprise surprise queers, I DON'T HAVE A FATHER. anyways if the town wants blood that badly i'll go ahead and make a case for someone. again i don't have strong suspicions towards anyone but i won't let the town shoot itself in the foot and try to lose just before the voting deadline. zzzz brb winning the game for town | ||
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On June 19 2011 17:46 freeloader625 wrote: It's time for my contribution. I actually had written up posts last game but never had a chance to actually post them up. I even had a Day 1 full defensive post but by the time I finished writing the tides have changed and rookie bandwagon couldn't be stopped and no longer had any reason to post it. Man that last game was hectic. take a look at this crock of shit. how come no one has called him out on this? hey last game i was actually getting my dick sucked by a fortune-telling gypsy, that's how i knew iGrok was mafia. and now that i've typed it it's true, no one can question me on it! no, freeloader, you hadn't written up any big posts last game. you're a bad player piggybacking off good players. put down the keyboard son, we don't want to read your essay full of non-logic. On June 19 2011 17:46 freeloader625 wrote: Early post of game gtrsrs attacks me based on no evidence at all. In fact as apprudds pointed out, his post reeks of oxymoron, his attack is, “your post doesn’t help” when in fact his post doesn’t help either. So aggressive, but I understand why you would do this. You want me to speak up and post more. This would be a pro town play. actually no you *don't* understand. i wasn't even attacking you here. in fact, my little grain of sand, i was pushing aprudds to not be so wishywashy. look at page 7 of this topic. aprudds pressures Drazerk and then IMMEDIATELY says "oh ho ho no no i'm not suspicious of you!" a couple posts later he jumps on freeloader's nuts then IMMEDIATELY says "nah brah i ain't mad lololol" DEFINITION of wishy-washy. my post was intended to get him to keep his pressure on. he claimed he'd attack anyone for anything to prevent a boring game? okay then don't back down (ironic in the end that it'd be me he keeps railing on :facepalm: ) On June 19 2011 17:46 freeloader625 wrote: Then his attitude changes from attacking to “no vote” passive play right when Drazerk picks up some serious heat with 3 votes and with "better evidence" than he had to attack me. Mighty scummy. Why wouldn't you wait to see his response? This play, gtrsrs makes a bunch of posts but at the end contradicts himself without seeming like it, therefore you just made your prior posts worthless. You seemed so out for blood earlier but now you don’t want any of it once drazerk is mentioned. You don't even wait for his defense. Why not? Weren't you pushing for all townies to speak up? Contradicting plays are usually what scum do, which in last game pushed the votes out and scored town the GF with a very close vote by one. You try to justify your change to passive play, while trying to convince all townies to do the same. You claim to be not defending when actually defending and buying time. You first wanted to attack players for information, but now you try to say we should back off, cut our losses instead and be completely passive. Er what? So are you trying to get information out of players or are you trying to seem like you are trying to get information from players? Typical scum play is early on pushing hard to seem pro town and gain credit, but then later on try to convince players to instead to do the anti town play without town realizing it. In this case the the antitown play would be not voting potential scum drazerk to see his reaction and do nothing instead. He hasn't even posted anything yet! i'm going to assume you're in second grade and they haven't taught you subtraction yet. let me set this up in a way that's easy to understand we have TWELVE (12) players this game. the 1 holds the ten's place, it doesn't mean 1 + 2. 10 + 2 = 12. when we subtract 1 from 12, we get 11. when we subtract 2 from 12 we get 10. when we subtract 3 from twelve we get 9. now, think back to the winning conditions of this game for mafia. when we lose enough townies, so that our town population equals that of mafia, we LOSE THE GAME. SO WHY THE FUCK WOULD WE WANT TO HASTE OURSELVES TO THAT POINT? you're claiming i'm mafia because i want to no-kill? YOU ARE RETARDED. MAFIA WANTS PEOPLE DEAD. if i was mafia i would explain why so-and-so are scum so we could lynch them with little-to-no-info. at the point i voted for lord vatti, we had NOTHING to go on. NOTHING. take a look again at what we gain by RANDOM lynching on day 1 with a modkill on the block. 1) we lose a townie in Lord Vatti (12 - 1 = 11) 2) from a townie standpoint, assuming that you wouldn't vote for yourself, and you're not voting for Lord Vatti, you have a 3/10 or 30% chance to kill mafia on day 1. 30% chance to... what exactly? we don't reduce their KP by killing them. if there even IS a roleblocker we've only a 33% chance (10% overall) to hit him. so 10% to give our hypothetical blues a free reign? now look at the MUCH higher probability of lynching a townie. 70 FUCKING PERCENT OF GIVING THE MAFIA A FREE KILL. do numbers even REGISTER in your head? are you willing to lynch on a 30% guess?? on day 1 with our votes spread out the mafia *will not bus*. they can dilute the votes enough to keep their scumbuddy from dying. we will not get that lucky on day 1 unless we have a really solid case, which we didn't. ON TOP OF THAT, WE ALSO HAVE A CHANCE OF RANDOM LYNCHING A BLUE. On June 19 2011 17:46 freeloader625 wrote: Yet you seems so fast to defend him. If he flips green we made the wrong choice but at least we have effectively increased our chance to lynch red by having a list of potential suspects based on voting patterns and bandwagon jumpers. WHY WOULD YOU NOT WANT THIS LIST? no, didn't defend him. claimed he was my FoS. i also said that as soon as Lord Vatti showed up and contributed, i would be happy to give my reasons to lynch Drazerk. if we're all present, and minimal suspicion is all we have to go on, i'm happy to go on that. but when we have a free mafia kill lined up, i'm not going to risk 70% chance of hitting a townie on a fucking HUNCH. i will make my case against Drazerk next if necessary but for now you WILL take your votes off me. scum is already bandwagoning onto me and losing me this early will be a dire mistake. in fact i will go so far as to say town will not win if i get lynched day 1. you are game-throwing if you vote for me. | ||
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while you morons pile your votes onto me, please at least take the time to read the rest of the thread. here's a great example of mafia jumping onto a bandwagon started by a moron. On June 20 2011 00:02 Xedat wrote: It doesn't look like Drazerk wants to martyr himself. I also think his defense is half decent. I actually would like to hear what gtrsrs has to say to the people voting for him. To me it looked like Pyo's first vote on Drazerk was to make the game a bit more livelier and I voted for Drazerk because he didn't respond for that. Right now I don't think that Drazerk is too scummy anymore. I will change my vote to gtrsrs, let's see who will defend him and what his defense is. ##unvote: Drazerk ##vote: gtrsrs i bolded, underlined, and italicized the part to note, to make it easy for the second-graders amongst. us. hey Xedat, what defense was it that Drazerk made, exactly? here's all his posts between your vote for Lord Vatti, and your changing vote to me. please clarify which part of these posts qualifies as a "defense" On June 19 2011 22:11 Drazerk wrote: Right I know pretty much nothing i say will save me at this point So im going to say this Don't trust Gtrsrs (yes i know your on my side kinda ) when i flip Green, Which I will he will claim he knew it and try to abuse that town cred for his own good later in the game He's no where near as ruthless as the last game he's Either a power role trying to stay back or Scum Also Alderan is still lurking so be careful On June 19 2011 22:35 Drazerk wrote: If for what ever reason you decide not to kill me and waste a townie ... ##Unvote: Lord Vatti ##Vote: gtrsrs On June 19 2011 23:25 Drazerk wrote: Show nested quote + On June 19 2011 23:18 Pyo wrote: On June 19 2011 17:46 freeloader625 wrote: Now lets assume we all vote to lynch Drazerk. At the very least he'll start posting frantically and we all gain something. This is what you wanted right? Yet you seems so fast to defend him. If he flips green we made the wrong choice but at least we have effectively increased our chance to lynch red by having a list of potential suspects based on voting patterns and bandwagon jumpers. WHY WOULD YOU NOT WANT THIS LIST? Why try so hard to prevent it before it even starts? That is of course unless you already know hes red and want to stop a red lynch before it goes further. You wanted people to talk early game for “information” by pressuring and now you try to shy town away from that very same tactic of pressure and play passive. I just don't get it. Only logic left is protecting buddy scum from getting any more pressure and before he scum slips. This is bad reasoning. Mafia have no reason to go along with a voting bandwagon on day 1 unless by random circumstance one of their own get targeted, in which case they might drive a bandwagon against someone else. Notice how not a single mafia voted for freeloader day 1 in the last game? If anything mafia will do their best to lay low day 1 voting for nobody in particular unless they can't undo a random bandwagon on one of their own. If that happens they'll probably end up bussing him. My point here is that regardless of who ends up getting lynched today, even if they flip green, those that voted for that person doesn't necessarily include mafia. Infact I see it as more the people that DON'T vote for me as more mafia as they know ill Flip green as so let town do their dirty work On June 19 2011 23:46 Drazerk wrote: People are going to lynch me for how much my posting habits change regardless I am now going to try and help you as much as possible as I know the situation you will be in after the lynch Also im a idiot I have established this throughout this game which part of that was his defense again? was it "I know pretty much nothing i say will save me at this point"? or was it "im a idiot"? maybe it was where he said "People are going to lynch me for how much my posting habits change regardless"? do these almost-english sentences register as a defense to anyone else? no. you are scum jumping on a bandwagon. On June 20 2011 00:02 Xedat wrote: It doesn't look like Drazerk wants to martyr himself. I also think his defense is half decent. I actually would like to hear what gtrsrs has to say to the people voting for him. To me it looked like Pyo's first vote on Drazerk was to make the game a bit more livelier and I voted for Drazerk because he didn't respond for that. Right now I don't think that Drazerk is too scummy anymore. I will change my vote to gtrsrs, let's see who will defend him and what his defense is. ##unvote: Drazerk ##vote: gtrsrs really? because he's acting much scummier than before. i think he's pretty much solidified himself as scum at this point. but of course, as his scumbuddy you wouldn't see it that way. you think he's in the clear now that the bandwagon is hopping onto me. huge mistake broski, you just revealed yourself as well. | ||
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On June 20 2011 02:52 aprudds wrote: Don't you dare criticize me for being wishy washy when you don't even have the balls to accuse anyone of anything. You suggest we sit here herping and derping wasting a lynch and waiting for modkills. i swear to god i got teleported back to the second grade why are you so stuck on this "wasting" a lynch thing i did the fucking math, please read my post at least it's like you people have already forgotten that we had FORTY (40, four times ten, the four holds the ten's place) players last game. we could afford random lynches and shitty bandwagons in the beginning. we have TWELVE people this game. a lynch is worth FOUR LYNCHES from last game. would you have randomly lynched four days in a row last game if four townies got modkilled on day 1? i sure as shit hope not. i'm not being more passive this game i'm being more conservative. there's a difference. we gain nothing by random lynching today. take your heads out of your asses and this fucking "wasted" lynch mindset. just use your imagination and pretend we had a huge case against Lord Vatti instead. pretend he's posted a lot and we're 100% convinced he's scum. now vote for him. now it's not a "wasted" lynch it's just a mislynch. is that better? jesus i swear to god i'm going to shoot my dick off if i have to explain the math one more time | ||
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also sorry if i'm sounding too insulting when i say "you're a fucking moron" i mean "you're a rocket scientist, a gentleman, and a scholar, but your logic is fucking moronic" it's just easier to type the first one | ||
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i really hate to compromise my logic in order to save myself but it's imperative that i do so. Alderan, aprudds since i know you've both been active recently, please change your votes to Drazerk. i'm decently sure that Drazerk, Xedat, and CjrNinja are our mafia, jumping on freeloader's bandwagon to take the pressure off Drazerk. I will change my vote to Drazerk as well, which will put him in the lead. I'd much rather vote Lord Vatti but if it's me or Drazerk it's gotta be big D. ##vote: Drazerk | ||
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##unvote: Lord Vatti ##vote: Drazerk soz GM | ||
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On June 20 2011 03:24 gtrsrs wrote: okay it's getting to be crunch time i really hate to compromise my logic in order to save myself but it's imperative that i do so. Alderan, aprudds since i know you've both been active recently, please change your votes to Drazerk. i'm decently sure that Drazerk, Xedat, and CjrNinja are our mafia, jumping on freeloader's bandwagon to take the pressure off Drazerk. I will change my vote to Drazerk as well, which will put him in the lead. I'd much rather vote Lord Vatti but if it's me or Drazerk it's gotta be big D. ##vote: Drazerk | ||
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On June 20 2011 03:37 Drazerk wrote: Show nested quote + On June 20 2011 03:24 gtrsrs wrote: okay it's getting to be crunch time i really hate to compromise my logic in order to save myself but it's imperative that i do so. Alderan, aprudds since i know you've both been active recently, please change your votes to Drazerk. i'm decently sure that Drazerk, Xedat, and CjrNinja are our mafia, jumping on freeloader's bandwagon to take the pressure off Drazerk. I will change my vote to Drazerk as well, which will put him in the lead. I'd much rather vote Lord Vatti but if it's me or Drazerk it's gotta be big D. ##vote: Drazerk I said you was mafia for defending me so now you attack me as I guessed your game Plan? Jumping on the bandwagon yourself Oh well when i flip green everyone will focus you if you live through the day i will cry | ||
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On June 20 2011 03:39 aprudds wrote: Show nested quote + On June 20 2011 03:24 gtrsrs wrote: okay it's getting to be crunch time i really hate to compromise my logic in order to save myself but it's imperative that i do so. Alderan, aprudds since i know you've both been active recently, please change your votes to Drazerk. i'm decently sure that Drazerk, Xedat, and CjrNinja are our mafia, jumping on freeloader's bandwagon to take the pressure off Drazerk. I will change my vote to Drazerk as well, which will put him in the lead. I'd much rather vote Lord Vatti but if it's me or Drazerk it's gotta be big D. ##vote: Drazerk Apologizes but I don't share your confidence gtr. Your going to have to let me make my own judgment on this. good idea, if you keep your vote on alderan you don't have to vote against your scum buddy Drazerk and my blood won't be on your hands either. pretty solid distancing strategy. it's funny that someone who has been hounding others to make a case and make a vote that matters has a single vote on someone that is 100% not going to be lynched town, take note. | ||
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On June 20 2011 03:48 aprudds wrote: Show nested quote + On June 20 2011 03:47 gtrsrs wrote: just like iGrok last game, as soon as i tell you that you're doing something scummy, you change it so as to not look so scummy interesting Keep talking away, it will be funny when you burn scum you'll be able to fry an egg on your face from how embarrassed you'll be when i don't | ||
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i was going to wait til an hour before voting ended to do this but with lord vatti gone i will definitely lose this lynch if i don't act now i am the town's medic. hopefully this should give you insight as to why i wanted to no-lynch today. i was hoping we'd have some outstanding townies show up that would make easy marks for the mafia, and i'd be able to protect one of them. it's kind of pathetic that you guys are forcing me to claim on day 1, your witch hunts are illogical and your inability to listen to reason is sad. in fact, for the sake of my blood pressure i'm glad i'll be dying tonight. on the plus side, i think freeloader's bandwagon was enough to point out the likely mafia. between these 4, i'm 100% sure that three are mafia: Drazerk Xedat Cjrninja aprudds again i want to point out that i am claiming medic. i won't get a chance to use my powers since i will be dying tonight. but it is *imperative* that you lynch drazerk or xedat today instead of me. letting me die will put you at 9 townies tomorrow which is a HUGE set-back. | ||
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On June 20 2011 03:55 gtrsrs wrote: again i want to point out that i am claiming medic. i won't get a chance to use my powers since i will be dying tonight. but it is *imperative* that you lynch drazerk or xedat today instead of me. letting me die will put you at 9 townies tomorrow which is a HUGE set-back. sorry, 6* townies, 3 mafia. 9 villagers total. also since some of you will be skeptical of my claim: last game i was willing to die to get iGrok lynched. this game my play has changed (you have incorrectly labelled it as "passive" when really it's just more "conservative") but what's key to note is that i am NOT going to martyr myself to get Drazerk lynched. if you lynch me today you are gamethrowing, i'm NOT a vanilla townie whose life is expendable to get the GF lynched. you MUST lynch mafia today | ||
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On June 20 2011 04:03 gtrsrs wrote: if there are no counterclaims to medic and you vote me, you are gamethrowing or mafia, plain and simple. *good mafia will keep their vote on me now so they don't have to waste a night-kill. mafia voting for me are not gamethrowing. | ||
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3 mafia 3 townies the three townies need to switch votes to drazerk | ||
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On June 20 2011 04:13 Drazerk wrote: Show nested quote + On June 20 2011 04:10 supersoft wrote: there won't be any counterclaims... If you're mafia, why should the real medic/DT counterclaim and give away his role, only to reinforce your lynch... That would be stupid pretty stupid... And if you are the real Medic and there isn't another powerrole, no one will counterclaim either. What's the votecount so far? This is a very good point Only mafia know what the possible game type is Got a role blocker with your Scum Friends? Or are you the roleblocker just shut up, jesus | ||
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On June 20 2011 04:15 Drazerk wrote: Show nested quote + On June 20 2011 04:13 gtrsrs wrote: there's 6 on me 3 mafia 3 townies the three townies need to switch votes to drazerk You keep saying that yet the only thing you have against me is my own idioticy and me changing my vote to you when I decided to Martyr Im fine with me dying as i know you would die the day after where if you was medic you would not take that risk i'm starting to think that you're town, which scares me between someone claiming town and someone claiming medic i don't see why you'd lynch the medic if you don't lynch me today, mafia will obviously kill me tonight. i die either way. if for some reason, they choose to keep me alive because of how suspicious i look, then i have a chance to save someone tonight. it's lose-lose to lynch me and if this is not obvious, then i don't know what to say | ||
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"your" is indicative of possession "Case 1: Your Town" indicates that i own the town, which clearly isn't true please try re-writing that in english | ||
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i think town will not see the light if there is a detective i highly recommend checking on Cjrninja instead of Xedat, aprudds, or Drazerk. i think when i flip medic it will be obvious that 2 of those 3 are mafia, and then it's just a question if the third is mafia or if cjrninja is the scum. also, don't listen to the bullshit that Drazerk and aprudds and xedat will likely spew. it will sound like this "he was playing so badly we had no choice but to lynch him yada yada yada" no. that's not how this game works. you don't lynch contributing players. you lynch lurkers. aprudds and Drazerk have spammed up the thread to bury my defenses of myself. they are taking over the game and not letting town think for themselves. i feel sorry for you guys if there's no detective. good luck y'all. i would point out who i think would be the viable town leader to listen to but i know whoever i point out will get killed tonight and i can't even protect them sorry. i would say i made a mistake this game but i honestly think my death is on freeloader's hands. mafia of course is going to rally onto someone else to take votes off their mafia. of course they're going to jump like vultures onto an easy kill. like i said earlier (which has been conveniently covered up by aprudds and drazerk spam), the fact that i wanted to go for Lord Vatti should have been enough to convince you i am town. my claim should have been unnecessary you're all geniuses, true gentlemen, and undoubtedly stallions in bed. that being said, your logic is a bit, just a TINY bit lacking. good day | ||
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On June 20 2011 04:34 aprudds wrote: Show nested quote + no. that's not how this game works. you don't lynch contributing players. you lynch lurkers. aprudds and Drazerk have spammed up the thread to bury my defenses of myself. they are taking over the game and not letting town think for themselves. i feel sorry for you guys if there's no detective. Damn I guess iGrok was a lurker last game. i don't really get what you're trying to accomplish here if you ARE a townie, spamming 1 liners and accusing someone claiming medic is not going to help you win. in fact, as i've said before, if you're a townie and voting for me you are intentionally losing, you are gamethrowing. i know there is decent suspicion of me at this point, and you want to keep the pressure up, but the fact that you won't even look at this from the point of view that i COULD be medic just shows that you don't care about winning. if you are MAFIA, then your accusations are only drawing attention to yourself. when i flip medic you're going to look really stupid and you will be a prime lynch/DT candidate. you played much more conservatively last game, so either you're a bored townie trying to be the hero, or you rolled mafia twice and you figured you better change your playstyle to "look" differently. either way you're drawing so much attention onto yourself that i can't help but think either you're a much worse player than we thought you were from your stellar performance last game, or you're gamethrowing. that's literally all i can think of | ||
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On June 20 2011 04:46 Treadmill wrote: okay WTF I seriously have no idea what's going on. i'm the medic. i had to claim in a last-ditch effort to not get the town to lynch a townie today. i would have much preferred no lynch so we could cut our losses, but i think the mafia have revealed themselves and a vote on Drazerk, xedat, or aprudds would be a good choice. either way, it's urgent to get the votes off me so that if i do not get targeted tonight by the mafia for WIFOM purposes, i have a chance at a random save | ||
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On June 20 2011 04:49 aprudds wrote: Show nested quote + On June 20 2011 04:40 gtrsrs wrote: On June 20 2011 04:34 aprudds wrote: no. that's not how this game works. you don't lynch contributing players. you lynch lurkers. aprudds and Drazerk have spammed up the thread to bury my defenses of myself. they are taking over the game and not letting town think for themselves. i feel sorry for you guys if there's no detective. Damn I guess iGrok was a lurker last game. i don't really get what you're trying to accomplish here if you ARE a townie, spamming 1 liners and accusing someone claiming medic is not going to help you win. in fact, as i've said before, if you're a townie and voting for me you are intentionally losing, you are gamethrowing. i know there is decent suspicion of me at this point, and you want to keep the pressure up, but the fact that you won't even look at this from the point of view that i COULD be medic just shows that you don't care about winning. if you are MAFIA, then your accusations are only drawing attention to yourself. when i flip medic you're going to look really stupid and you will be a prime lynch/DT candidate. you played much more conservatively last game, so either you're a bored townie trying to be the hero, or you rolled mafia twice and you figured you better change your playstyle to "look" differently. either way you're drawing so much attention onto yourself that i can't help but think either you're a much worse player than we thought you were from your stellar performance last game, or you're gamethrowing. that's literally all i can think of I'm attempting your style of playing this round. How do you like tunneling? It's always good to try out different play styles to see which one matches especially since this is only my second forum mafia. I'm also poking holes in your logic. Claiming medic is NOT OPTIMAL if you were medic. Think of it as a compliment gtr, I trust you were smart enough to see that claiming medic would not be optimal if you were medic. yeah, i can see that, you wanna be guitarasaurus jr. look at the differences between me and iGrok though. he rage-quit when we singled him out. i'm claiming a role and trying to defend myself. i'm CLEARLY THE MEDIC. how is me claiming not optimal? somehow a lynchwagon got started on me overnight by freeloader and the mafia jumped on it. i tried my best to not claim. i posted a bunch of posts saying why voting for lord vatti would be a bad idea and you and drazerk covered them up in spam. i didn't claim until i had 6 votes. with Lord Vatti afk, 6 votes is the majority. i was FORCED to claim. it was obvious that no matter what i said, you'd bury it in one-liners and prevent people from reading my arguments | ||
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On June 20 2011 04:55 Treadmill wrote: ##Unvote: Drazerk ##Vote: gtrsrs Looking pretty damn scummy, bro. Don't worry, I don't hold the "you're alll idiots" against you, you're just saying that to make us doubt ourselves. surprise surprise, the king of misreads strikes out again | ||
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On June 20 2011 04:56 GMarshal wrote: Lord Vatti(1) Alderan gtrsrs(7) freeloader625 Drazerk Xedat CjrNinja aprudds Pyo Treadmill aprudds(3) omgCRAZY supersoft gtrsrs Xedat, Drazerk, and aprudds will not change their votes (the first two because they are definitely scum, and the third because he wants to be like daddy. freeloader might show up at the last second like he usually does, but my hopes aren't high. even if he does show up i doubt he'll see the error in his ways, or have time to muck through all the drazerk/aprudds spam to see the reason. so that's 4 votes on me for sure. Pyo, Treadmill, i think you're both reasonable. i want you to re-evaluate your votes. re-read my defenses and my attempts to lead us in the right direction SEVERAL times throughout the thread. decide if it's really worth it to lynch someone who's intelligent and analytical AND HAS CLAIMED MEDIC or if you'd rather keep Mr. I'm a self-proclaimed idiot drazerk and Mr. I have a hard time with simple grammatical rules aprudds. cjrninja changing his vote is contingent on if he's mafia or not. if he's mafia he's got no reason to change his vote. if he's town, he should at least consider it, and through his considerations he should see that i am the wrong vote. if he's mafia there's 5 votes on me for sure. alderan i have no fear will see the light and not vote against me. so, the game is on Pyo and Treadmill (and potentially cjrninja if he's town). are you guys gonna change your votes? looks like the new bandwagon is off Drazerk for some reason and onto aprudds, but i gotta do what i can to stay alive :s ##unvote: Drazerk ##vote: aprudds | ||
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On June 20 2011 05:00 Drazerk wrote: ##Unvote: gtrsrs ##Vote: aprudds Ill explain after the Idra - MC game but I urge everyone to follow suit okay wtf ugh ugh UGH | ||
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i can't tell who's being really good mafia and who's being really really shitty town either way, mafia has no reason to take their votes off of me. which means that drazerk might not be mafia. but he's also a very bad player. he might just be making a good play assuming that aprudds will keep his vote on me at this point. this might be a fake bus because he thinks i'll still die. this makes me think aprudds is not mafia however, and drazerk wants to confuse us all FUCK I REALLY WISH EVERYONE WOULD JUST VOTE LORD VATTI. THERE'S TOO MUCH OF A TIME CRUNCH AT THIS POINT. WE CAN'T RISK KILLING A TOWNIE TODAY ESPECIALLY SINCE I'VE CLAIMED. FUCK. TOWN IS SO FUCKING BAD. | ||
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On June 20 2011 05:00 Drazerk wrote: ##Unvote: gtrsrs ##Vote: aprudds Ill explain after the Idra - MC game but I urge everyone to follow suit THERE'S NO TIME, EXPLAIN NOW | ||
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On June 20 2011 05:17 gtrsrs wrote: Show nested quote + On June 20 2011 05:00 Drazerk wrote: ##Unvote: gtrsrs ##Vote: aprudds Ill explain after the Idra - MC game but I urge everyone to follow suit THERE'S NO TIME, EXPLAIN NOW we need votes off of me and we need input NOW now is NOT the time to afk. we need some discussion. is drazerk the mafia bussing, or did he have a revelation that he thinks aprudds is mafia. at least one of them is mafia likely both but at least one. we need to make the right call NOW get your votes off me and let's get some discussion PLEASE | ||
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On June 20 2011 05:24 aprudds wrote: Show nested quote + On June 20 2011 05:16 gtrsrs wrote: aprudds i URGE you to change your vote off me. if i'm the medic the mafia will kill me tonight anyways. if they don't, i have a chance to save someone. i'm quite convinced you're town now based on drazerk's voteswing and i think you can redeem yourself, please take your votes off me. I think your scum man. Like you said, you're a smart analytical guy, and if that's true there was no point for you to claim. If I think someone is competent I have to look at them like a unforgiving machine and that unforgiving machine part of me is telling me that claiming day 1 like that will only benefit scum. YOU FUCKING SCHOLAR, YOU FUCKING GENTLEMAN, I HAVE EXPLAINED MULTIPLE TIMES THAT I CLAIMED BECAUSE THERE WERE 6 OUT OF 11 VOTES ON ME; EVEN AFTER I TRIED TO PULL VOTES OFF MYSELF WITHOUT CLAIMING, I ONLY NETTED 2 MORE VOTES ON MYSELF. STOP SPAMMING AND TAKE YOUR VOTE OFF ME | ||
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On June 20 2011 05:33 aprudds wrote: Show nested quote + On June 20 2011 05:31 gtrsrs wrote: we should put our votes onto drazerk. an unexplained voteswitch with the tag "i'll explain <after the lynch has occured> is unacceptable" especially from someone who has been fingered as likely mafia. we should all switch our votes to him. unfortunately, people are voting for YOU aprudds, which i think is wrong. i don't think you're mafia, i just think you're the worst town player i've ever seen. i am CLEARLY town. take your vote off me, put it anywhere else, not on yourself Sorry mate, you know just as well as me that you're just trying to get me killed. P.S. The fact that you haven't vote switched tells me alot about your motives. i can't be the first to switch obviously you could very well be mafia. i can't take my vote off you. but if you are town, you will take your vote off me. that's all there is to it | ||
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On June 20 2011 05:39 Drazerk wrote: ok im back Right i was thinking in a day 2 mind set and then i started to wonder what if Regardless of everything he's claimed he was the medic so if he does not die at night - He is scum regardless We may as well have the POSSIBILITY of a save In no way am i saying he is not scum im just saying we will 100% know by day 2 okay that's enough for me scum plan is to leave me alive so i get lynched tomorrow this is great news. we can vote for drazerk (clearly scum), and i can get a save tonight. if i get a save both me and my saved will be informed and we'll be in a great spot. take your votes of aprudds. he could be mafia but i'm less sure of that as i am of drazerk. ##unvote: aprudds ##vote: drazerk PLEASE CHANGE VOTES NOW THERE IS LITERALLY NO TIME | ||
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Coaching are chaos13, sinani206 and Varpulis PM them any questions you may have. i'm sure these guys have been reading the thread. if that's what it takes you to see the light, PM one of them to get confirmation that THEY would take their votes off me now. | ||
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freeloader625 CjrNinja aprudds Pyo Treadmill aprudds(6) omgCRAZY supersoft gtrsrs Drazerk alderan xedat drazerk (1) gtrsrs is this correct now? | ||
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On June 20 2011 05:49 Pyo wrote: Show nested quote + On June 20 2011 05:08 gtrsrs wrote: so, the game is on Pyo and Treadmill (and potentially cjrninja if he's town). are you guys gonna change your votes? No dice. Why? Because of shit like this. Show nested quote + On June 20 2011 05:26 gtrsrs wrote: YOU FUCKING SCHOLAR, YOU FUCKING GENTLEMAN, I HAVE EXPLAINED MULTIPLE TIMES THAT I CLAIMED BECAUSE THERE WERE 6 OUT OF 11 VOTES ON ME; EVEN AFTER I TRIED TO PULL VOTES OFF MYSELF WITHOUT CLAIMING, I ONLY NETTED 2 MORE VOTES ON MYSELF. STOP SPAMMING AND TAKE YOUR VOTE OFF ME If you're town: Look kurumi, you might actually be the medic, but honestly it doesn't even matter anymore. If there are roleblockers, then you're just as useless as any townie. If there aren't roleblockers, you're dead anyway. If you're mafia: Look iGrok, no need to get all butt-hurt by people voting for you. You've been a huge jackass in both this game and the last so it shouldn't be any surprise no one is going to go out on a limb and cut you any slack. However, the way you've been playing this game is exactly like iGrok did in the last game. High-sounding bleah where you sort of try to establish town cred/leadership, but don't really do or say anything meaningful. Then in response to pressure you go all ape-shit à la Mel Gibson in Braveheart (or The Patriot). so my only response is ¯\(°_o)/¯ lmao stfu i started this game playing extremely conservatively in fact that's what got me votes in the first place "why isn't gtrsrs being so cutthroat, why isn't he tunneling anyone?" i knew it would bite me in the ass so now i switch to what you want me to be and you chastise me for that too? fuck off i think aprudds is the wrong vote. i think this is mafia's plan: >gtrsrs bandwagon >gtrsrs has a legit defense, people start bandwagoning on the spammer aprudds >drazerk and xedat, my two biggest mafia targets, vote aprudds >now they take down a townie, leave gtrsrs alive with a huge target on his back, pray he doesn't make a save, and lynch him tomorrow. combined with the modkill they're off to a huge 5-man lead. | ||
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game is on me. i have to make a save tonight. we need LOTS of posts over the next 24 hours. we need townies to step up and tons of wifom so i can make the right save choice. i'm starting to think there is no detective but if there is, we'll discuss what you need to do tonight as well. fuck this game just got INTENSE. | ||
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On June 20 2011 05:59 Treadmill wrote: gtrsrs is bandwagoning aprudds to save his own life. Town would never do that. i voted drazerk you are an upstanding gentleman in your community and i salute your good looks and full head of hair | ||
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i tried so hard to save you bro | ||
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your tunneling of the un-cc'd medic and constant 1-liner spam and refusal to listen to the facts got you lynched. we really should have lynched xedat or drazerk instead though | ||
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On June 20 2011 06:14 Drazerk wrote: Right that is my own stupidity of having a lost moment change of mind and then encouraging others to do the same gtrsrs mark my words you have to make a save tonight i obviously won't here's why the mafia bandwagoned off of me: they have a roleblocker who they will apply to me. if they didn't have the roleblocker they would have kept their votes on me. but just like i pointed out earlier, a claimed blue is a worthless blue. luckily, that means that we have this set-up: 1 Mafia Role Blocker, 2 Mafia Goons, 7 Town, 1 Medic, 1 Detective so the detective will be free to get accurate reports as long as i'm locked up by the hooker. not that we should need them though. we have 2 mafia in the bag, we only need to find the third. | ||
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i voted drazerk. i tried to get people to vote drazerk. re-read my posts. once drazerk switched off me i instantly realized mafia's plan. it's so obvious. i am the medic and drazerk and xedat are our scum. please stop listening to your own instincts because you are ALWAYS WRONG. we're not going to focus on me there is a detective in this game and they know that i'm confirmed. me being alive is keeping the roleblocker off them. we will lynch drazerk and xedat and then find the third mafia. if either drazerk or xedat is the roleblocker then town can't lose. | ||
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so that means that we need to get as much analysis out of freeloader as we can. we need to hear your thoughts on everything since this will be the last chance you get to speak them | ||
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On June 20 2011 06:31 Drazerk wrote: Show nested quote + On June 20 2011 06:28 gtrsrs wrote: treadmill just stop i voted drazerk. i tried to get people to vote drazerk. re-read my posts. once drazerk switched off me i instantly realized mafia's plan. it's so obvious. i am the medic and drazerk and xedat are our scum. please stop listening to your own instincts because you are ALWAYS WRONG. we're not going to focus on me there is a detective in this game and they know that i'm confirmed. me being alive is keeping the roleblocker off them. we will lynch drazerk and xedat and then find the third mafia. if either drazerk or xedat is the roleblocker then town can't lose. hang on we're ?? we're not going to focus on me? Oh for love of god yes, "we," the town, are going to focus on scum now we are not going to be derailed by accusations on me what do you think i meant | ||
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1 Mafia Role Blocker, 2 Mafia Goons, tonight the mafia kill a townie. it will not be me for stated reasons. i will be blocked instead. so there's a 1/6 chance to hit detective. let's assume they do not hit detective tomorrow we'll have 1 Mafia Role Blocker, 2 Mafia Goons, 4 Town, 1 Medic, 1 Detective we lynch Xedat, as although Drazerk is definitely scum, i don't think the roleblocker would put himself in such light. if xedat is the roleblocker we're in good shape. we'll start night 2 with the following: 2 Mafia Goons, 4 Town, 1 Medic, 1 Detective with the hooker dead, the mafia *might* kill me. it depends on how tomorrow goes. if you guys put FoS's on me and whatnot, they'll keep me alive. if we just trust me that i'm the medic, i'll die. i'm hoping for the second. why do i hope to die? because if i die that means the detective will not. day 3 we'll have 2 Mafia Goons, 4 Town, 1 Detective whereupon we'll lynch drazerk. by now the detective will have 2 reports. his reports will not be on me, drazerk, or xedat, so he'll have a 2/5 chance of hitting a mafia. if he's got a guilty he outs it and we win. if not we scumhunt and win on day 4. i like the look of this | ||
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On June 20 2011 06:52 Treadmill wrote: lol you guys are so obvious treadmill he's trying to buddy buddy me to tie us together. i'm convinced that he's mafia but i am confirmed medic don't waste your time trying to get me lynched. i've already defended myself, and you're always wrong anyways, no matter how many paragraphs you write. if you're going to target someone, please take a look at drazerk, or do a more thorough analysis of Xedat based on mine from earlier in the thread. | ||
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please stop confirming my plans you are the most blatantly obvious scum to ever have existed and every time you buddy me it kills my credibility for the love of god | ||
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On June 20 2011 13:31 Varpulis wrote: Could you please keep it civil? There's no need for that. didn't you vouch for him as an IRL friend? why did he afkquit? | ||
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i need to hear your reactions to the day's events. i need to see who thinks what so i can know who to save. i can only assume that the mafia has a roleblocker which is why they kept me alive. if i die, they definitely do not have a roleblocker. unfortunately that means we also don't have a DT. who do you guys think would make a good DT check? who should i attempt to save? who is the mafia going to target tonight? we need some conversation, gogo | ||
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On June 20 2011 15:58 Pyo wrote: You're random blabbing doesn't accomplish anything. trying to be ironic or do YOUR feet just taste that good? DT i think that Pyo might be worth a check. last game i felt like he was a strong player who saw the evidence, analyzed it correctly, voiced his opinion clearly, and made good decisions. this game he's been sniping, shutting down conversation, making poor decisions publicly, and overall just being a scumbucket. it's entirely possible that he's the third mafia, which would make sense, as he would definitely be the ring-leader type prompting Drazerk to up his posting, agree with me, etc. he could have also told xedat and drazerk to ship aprudds and take him down once i claimed. it seems like something he would be capable of thinking of. | ||
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i've said several times i'm not sure on the third i told the town to take their votes off of aprudds, drazerk confirmed him as town third mafia is either cjrninja or pyo right now but i could be way off with that. | ||
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On June 21 2011 04:43 Pyo wrote: Show nested quote + On June 21 2011 02:53 Xedat wrote: So who is mafia in your book gtrsrs? Accusing everyone? You said that between Xedat, Drazerk, CjrNinja and appruds there are 100% percent 3 mafioso. And now suddenly Pyo is mafia too? Why don't you say anything about appruds? Lets face it people, gtrsrs is very scummy, take everything he says with a grain of salt and don't just believe him. Yeah, he's scum. Why the f**k did you change your vote... he changed his vote because i claimed medic, so they know they can keep me locked down with roleblocker and target another townie. as soon as drazerk jumped votes we should have lynched drazerk. i don't know how no one else is seeing this | ||
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Roleblocker You are a mafia member who has the ability to prevent a player from performing a night action. Once per night, you may roleblock a player, and your target will be unable to perform night actions for that night. Your target will be informed that they have been roleblocked (even if they didn't have a night action). You do not have to use your action every night. i was not informed of any roleblock. so i will take it that i was not roleblocked. i'm pretty pissed though. i was *this* close to saving omgCRAZY. i will not reveal who i attempted to save instead if you were roleblocked you need to let us know now. also take your votes off me. you have no case against me. we're voting for Drazerk or Xedat today. i'm leaning towards Xedat because although Drazerk is definitely scum, at least he's posting a lot. he might lead us to his other buddy or provide some helpful analysis | ||
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Xedat is wishy washy on the rare occasions he does post Drazerk posts frequently and seems to be trying to appear pro-town we get to lynch 1 today why not get rid of the quiet one? | ||
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On June 21 2011 08:20 Drazerk wrote: Show nested quote + On June 21 2011 07:49 supersoft wrote: On June 21 2011 07:42 Alderan wrote: Umm what??? I got RB'd......?? So this will almost assuredly get me lynched, but the town needs to know the set up, so I had to claim. What just happened? oh wait... I didn't see this... This changes everything... got to think about that He's lying - He's scum as ive told you ages ago What did we have 2 pages discussing? How to confirm if there is a role blocker or not We agreed if someone said it they was scum no, this isn't true i asked the town to confirm if they were roleblocked. i'm somewhat surprised that i didn't get roleblocked. mafia is relying on me missing my saves (which i did last night) and using their roleblock and kill to try to hit the detective with either | ||
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On June 21 2011 09:27 Treadmill wrote: Nonsense. You two have been very loudly disagreeing but your actions have been hand in hand. This is exactly what you're trying to get us to believe, so that when one of you flips mafia we won't possibly go after the other. stop being naive drazerk has been buddying me all game since i claimed so that you would think these exact thoughts drazerk is 100% mafia, i am the medic stop trying to tie us together, it's what he wants | ||
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On June 22 2011 02:41 Pyo wrote: Show nested quote + On June 22 2011 00:44 Xedat wrote: no posts since nearly 9 hours? Say something town, silence will only help scum. go f*ck yourself gtrsrs. Way to suck the life out of the game with your bs. If you're town, you're a terrible town who has done nothing but kill the conversation and destroy the fun of the game with the way you play the game. If you're mafia, as I suspect, congratulations. I have the feeling that this game is basically dead. I mean when the host has to make a post like this, you know something's wrong. To be honest, this game isn't even any fun anymore, so I'm just going to lay out my future votes and only post once per day until I'm dead: 1. gtrsrs (for reasons that I've already laid out) 2. supersoft (mostly for this post) 3. alderan (for pretty much saying nothing) 4. freeloader (his posts have a general scummy feel of saying stuff without saying stuff. he is first to accuse gtrsrs, but it backfires. Changes his vote after the "medic claim". Then is the one to bring forward this idea that mafia let gtrsrs live so that we'd lynch him. 5. drazerk, treadmill, xedat in alphabetical order (if we haven't won by now, we'd have lost) >feigning disinterest, check >saying you won't help the town any more, check >laying out your voting pattern before any evidence is presented, check >voting for the 4 most pro-town players first, check >leaving the 2 confirmed mafia for 5th and 7th votes, respectively, check duly noted scum | ||
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On June 21 2011 16:45 Xedat wrote: I still think gtrsrs is scum. And me attacking you is not being wishy washy gtrsrs. ##vote: gtrsrs really now, do you? it's funny that you say "still" because as far as i can tell you've never actually thought i was scum let's take a stroll through your posts shall we On June 17 2011 07:32 Xedat wrote: Another question: Are dead mafia players allowed to give advice/talk in the mafia Quicktopic? didn't notice this til now. why would a town ever need to know this? not enough to be suspicious of someone but it sure does lend credibility to my case. On June 18 2011 19:10 Xedat wrote: Generic post not to be modkilled..... To say one last word to the setup discussion, I think blues should only claim when they are being lynched or if they think outing themselves will help town. Now, as we need to pressure someone, Drazerk, why do you bring the focus away from freeloader immediately and try to incriminate 3 people who haven't posted hours after the game started. Trying to protect your scumbuddy? bolded blue noted for later On June 18 2011 19:36 Xedat wrote: Aha, why so defensive. Scared to be lynched? Maybe they didn't lurk but simply did not read the thread until now. On June 18 2011 23:00 Xedat wrote: Yeah, I am not actually suspecting you, just tried to get someone talking. We will see if someone slips something stupid, otherwise it will be a random lynch tomorrow I think. these two posts reek of scummy wishy-washiness. he fake accuses Drazerk and then before anyone can take it seriously, he backs off it. "oh no no i wasn't actually accusing him lol LET'S WAIT FOR SCUM TO SLIP" On June 19 2011 17:31 Xedat wrote: I agree that we should not waste our lynch on an inactive player. I find it quite strange that Drazerk does not really defend himself after it looks like he is to be lynched. There has been a lot of discussion about him and I think lynching the most talked about player actually has some merit, as it will help us scumhunting. As others have said, just waiting until someone slips is not a winning strategy. If you are under fire, please defend yourself properly. I know that it is pretty difficult on day one, but saying nothing is the worst you can do. ##vote: Drazerk "wait for scum to slip? that's the dumbest thing anyone's ever said lol!! oh, it was exactly what i said in my last post? PANIC VOTE" On June 20 2011 00:02 Xedat wrote: It doesn't look like Drazerk wants to martyr himself. I also think his defense is half decent. I actually would like to hear what gtrsrs has to say to the people voting for him. To me it looked like Pyo's first vote on Drazerk was to make the game a bit more livelier and I voted for Drazerk because he didn't respond for that. Right now I don't think that Drazerk is too scummy anymore. I will change my vote to gtrsrs, let's see who will defend him and what his defense is. ##unvote: Drazerk ##vote: gtrsrs see my post earlier (here) for why this solidified Xedat as scum in my eyes. Drazerk offered NO defense whatsoever, nothing even resembling a defense, but Xedat was all too happy to pull his vote off his scumbuddy now that the pressure was on me instead. with only a handful of posts, none of which have ANY substance, Xedat "doesn't think that Drazerk is too scummy anymore". el oh el. On June 20 2011 05:46 Xedat wrote: ##unvote gtrsrs ##vote: appruds I think he has defended himself enough and the tunneling by Drazerk and appruds is a bit too crazy. wishy washy much? as soon as i claim medic, which you'll remember he asked blues to do ealier in the thread he pulls his vote off me and puts it on aprudds, who is just an over-eager townie. now remember, mafia knows who is town. as long as *someone* was getting lynched, mafia doesn't care. that's why Xedat has been so adamant about lynching someone today instead of doing the smart thing and voting for Lord Vatti. On June 20 2011 05:48 Xedat wrote: EBWODP: If appruds is not scum gtrsrs probably is scum and not medic. Lets see what the night brings. an interesting change in position seeing as you told blues to claim if they were being lynched. On June 20 2011 05:51 Xedat wrote: I don't know what to do anymore. I don't think gtrsrs is mafia by now, why do oyu think Drazerk is more scummy than appruds gtrsrs? really? last post you said i was scum if aprudds flipped green. THIS IS THE DEFINITION OF WISHY-WASHY SCUM, TRYING TO SPREAD CONFUSION On June 20 2011 05:55 Xedat wrote: Yes everyone seems to be active right now. My vote stays on appruds, I am going to bed. This is why you don't lynch inactive people day one gtrsrs, at least we have a lot of stuff to work with tommorow. If we had lynched Lord Vatti we would have started with 2 townies down as no one would have said anything worthwhile. See you guys tomorrow. no, xedat, this is why you lynch the guy who's already going to die. instead of starting with 2 dead townies, we start with 3 and lose a mis-lynch. but of course mafia sees this as a good thing. On June 20 2011 21:22 Xedat wrote: looks like gtrsrs is scum, and only because you claimed medic does not mean you are a confirmed medic. On Drazerk analyzing me, the first few posts we did was simply to start a discussion, how that is incriminating is beyond me. Second of all, being one if the first persons to vote for someon is not "jumping on a bandwagon." Third of all, if you are town how is changing my vote áway from you scummy in any way? Also, if you think gtrsrs is town why is it scummy to change my vote from him. If he is the medic I would be stupid to vote for him. The other 2 options were you and appruds. In my eyes you were clear, so I had the choice between a claimed medic someone I thought was town and a more scummy player. Of course I vote for the person that is most scummiest to protect our medic. Voting for someone totally different to get the focus away from me would be the scummy way to play. Please town, think for yourself and don't let yourself be led by mafia to an early grave. It is entierly possible that Drazerk and gtrsrs are mafia and do this all to get town cred, but I think it is more probable that only gtrsrs or none of them is mafia. a nice juicy contradiction-filled post. let's break it down a. 5 posts ago i was town. 3 posts ago i was scum. 2 posts ago i was not scum. now i'm scum again. b. no, being one of the first people to vote for someone after the initial vote is the DEFINITION of "jumping on a bandwagon," sorry. c. now i'm town again, as long as it clears Xedat? d. "If he is the medic I would be stupid to vote for him. " but you don't think i'm the medic. you think i'm scum. but not enough to actually vote for me? is anyone else reading this? On June 21 2011 02:53 Xedat wrote: So who is mafia in your book gtrsrs? Accusing everyone? You said that between Xedat, Drazerk, CjrNinja and appruds there are 100% percent 3 mafioso. And now suddenly Pyo is mafia too? Why don't you say anything about appruds? Lets face it people, gtrsrs is very scummy, take everything he says with a grain of salt and don't just believe him. who is mafia in my books? Xedat, Drazerk and then someone else. i can't tell if Pyo is being a bad sport or a clever mafia. thinking back, it's unlikely for all three mafia to jump on the bandwagon immediately, that would be too obvious. so i'm feeling CjrNinja less and less. it's still a possibility however. as for saying things about aprudds, don't gloss over my posts. IMMEDIATELY after Drazerk jumped ship off me and onto aprudds, i asked people to take their votes of aprudds. it was an extremely blatant scumtell and the town didn't pick up on it. i feel bad for aprudds. he was trying to play like me in a situation where it was unneeded, and it made HIM look really scummy. you and Drazerk orchestrated a voteswing at the last minute before people could pull their votes off of aprudds. town, to me it is very obvious that Xedat is scum. i think Drazerk is as well, but i feel like Xedat is the better vote here. i know this now looks like 2 days in a row that i've soft-defended Drazerk, but that's not the case i swear. hopefully this is enough for you guys to put your vote on the obvious mafia ##vote: Xedat | ||
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On June 22 2011 02:58 Xedat wrote: I would also like to chime in and say that gtrsrs' bad mannered style makes me not want to play the game. But he also did it when he was town so that does not mean he is scum. Just check if he signs up to the same game you do, I will. play to win, don't play to make friends | ||
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On June 22 2011 03:07 gtrsrs wrote: Show nested quote + On June 20 2011 00:02 Xedat wrote: It doesn't look like Drazerk wants to martyr himself. I also think his defense is half decent. I actually would like to hear what gtrsrs has to say to the people voting for him. To me it looked like Pyo's first vote on Drazerk was to make the game a bit more livelier and I voted for Drazerk because he didn't respond for that. Right now I don't think that Drazerk is too scummy anymore. I will change my vote to gtrsrs, let's see who will defend him and what his defense is. ##unvote: Drazerk ##vote: gtrsrs see my post earlier (here) for why this solidified Xedat as scum in my eyes. Drazerk offered NO defense whatsoever, nothing even resembling a defense, but Xedat was all too happy to pull his vote off his scumbuddy now that the pressure was on me instead. with only a handful of posts, none of which have ANY substance, Xedat "doesn't think that Drazerk is too scummy anymore". el oh el. also, whoops, forgot to hyperlink. that should read: see my post earlier (here) for why this solidified Xedat as scum in my eyes | ||
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On June 22 2011 02:45 gtrsrs wrote: >feigning disinterest, check >saying you won't help the town any more, check >laying out your voting pattern before any evidence is presented, check >voting for the 4 most pro-town players first, check >leaving the 2 confirmed mafia for 5th and 7th votes, respectively, check On June 22 2011 03:36 Pyo wrote: There's a huge difference between playing to win/not playing to make friends and being huge jackass. >ignoring my analysis of your scumbuddy, check >derailing the thread with petty 1-liner insults, check On June 22 2011 02:45 gtrsrs wrote: duly noted scum | ||
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On June 22 2011 04:05 Pyo wrote: - 2 confirmed mafia for 5th and 7th? what? As far as I can tell the only confirmed mafia is you. the whole town knows that drazerk is mafia, and i just made a waterproof case against xedat. i'm the medic as has been established repeatedly. if you think i'm mafia make a case, I WILL GLADLY REFUTE IT. stop trying to muck up the thread and lead town away from lynching reds. if you're so disinterested in the game, get a sub. you're not helping town with your current posts, and voting for the confirmed medic. if you won't get a sub, you're feigning disinterest because you're mafia. | ||
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On June 22 2011 04:14 Pyo wrote: Show nested quote + On June 22 2011 03:43 gtrsrs wrote: >ignoring my analysis of your scumbuddy, check >derailing the thread with petty 1-liner insults, check what analysis? you mean your incoherent spam? right. You began by sort of laying low until you were called out on it. Then you went into hyper ass hole mode. And when people actually believed that you're the medic, you proceeded to try and tell everyone what to do. You aren't doing analysis, you're just trying to dictate what the town does. If you really were the medic, then you have no more information about who is what than anyone else, and less information than the DT (assuming both you and alderan are telling the truth). Everything about what you're doing screams scum, yet it's almost incomprehensible that a mafia would so brazen about it. My only conclusion is that you're a terrible asshole of a townie or an ego-tripping mafia for having convinced people to change their minds after claiming medic. Either way, trying to analyze your incoherent posting is just pissing me off in a "fuck this game I can't stand this jack-ass" sort of way. incoherent spam? lol? please scroll up to this post, it's nice and easy, it's on this very page, and read my irrefutable case against your scum buddy. i don't have any *more* information about xedat than anyone else. luckily, he's laid out his guilty plainly in the thread so we *all* can see it. i laid low because i was blue. i tried to get the town to lynch Lord Vatti because i did the math and we had only a 30% chance of hitting a mafia on day 1. WHY WOULDN'T WE TAKE A FREE DAY? trying to spin that as pro-mafia is so bass-ackwards i don't know what to say. cut the petty insults and step your game up, or get a sub. when you leave we can chalk my number up to 2 mafia i've made rage-quit with my unrelenting correctness | ||
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@mods: sorry again in advance for any insults. i've really tried to reign them in since day 1 and i will continue to think twice before hitting the "post" button. @town: sorry to all for being so overly rude this game. as i've stated multiple times, i was trying to play conservatively this game since i rolled blue. since most of you have relatively little experience, i can see why my change in posting style might have raised some alarms. @freeloader especially, sorry i unloaded on you. i was just so frustrated because obviously to myself, my actions make perfect sense. that being said, i will NOT apologize for playing aggressively now. my whole life i've only derived pleasure from winning, be it in high school sports, league of legends, or even forum mafia. if i'm losing i'm not having fun, so if you make a bad argument or contradict yourself, i will badger you into submission; i will just make sure to not attack you as a person as a way to get my point across. okay, mushy stuff is over, 1, 2, 3, BREAK! LET'S GET 'EM TEAM CjrNinja, that's excellent analysis, i'm glad we're on the same page. like i said earlier, upon re-thinking, i thought it would be *too* convenient for all three mafia to jump on my bandwagon with little-to-no-impetus. 2 i can buy, drazerk and xedat have made their alignment pretty clear, but it would be a bit too convenient for all 3 to expose themselves so easily. i'm happy to take you off my FoS list for now :D | ||
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On June 22 2011 15:07 Treadmill wrote: I'm starting to have some doubts about gtrsrs being mafia but his posting in general has been so anti-town that I'm having trouble seeing him as innocent. can i ask, with respect, what part of my posting has been "so anti-town"? that's the part i'm struggling to get. i can explain anything i've posted, and i'm happy to defend anything you're suspicious of. | ||
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On June 22 2011 16:24 Treadmill wrote: @gtrsrs: you've been basically trying to get in charge of the town and have been flaming everyone who disagrees with you. and you've been trying to lead the town nowhere (Lord Vatti lynch) and into accomplishing nothing. At this point even if Xedat flips town I'm gonna still suspect that you're just bussing him to gain townie cred. tell me EXACTLY how random-lynching aprudds helped us more than lynching Lord Vatti would have? it gave us 1 fewer mislynch, and 1 fewer day before mafia can potentially win. i don't see how this is so hard for you to understand, honestly. you're a smart guy. but once more for clarity i will lay it out for you >we had an obvious AFKer >we had NO solid leads on mafia >we had 70% chance to lynch a townie, 10-20% chance to lynch a blue (which you almost did) >i push for us to NOT take the extremely high chance to lynch a townie, and everyone labels that as scummy 12-man game with 1 mafia KP per night, 1 lynch per day. assuming a mislynch every day, we only have 3 days before mafia wins. and everyone wants to RUSH THAT by another day by killing 2 townies in 1 day? my desire to give us an extra day (and in turn, an extra night ding ding i'm the medic hellooo) wasn't so we could "wait around for mafia to kill us." it was the opposite. instead of rushing really poor (statistic-wise) lynches, i wanted to buy extra nights for me to make saves. imagine you had lynched me day 1 and i hadn't claimed. you know what you would be saying right now? "wow we're really fucked, we should have listened to gtrsrs." don't say you wouldn't. hindsight is 20/20. the fact that the mafia left me alive (their goal - leave an easy lynch for town) is going to bite them in the ass because lo and behold i have another night to make a save. as for leading the town nowhere, that's just a load of malarky. i have given plenty of watertight evidence to lynch Xedat. when the time comes, i'll lay out an irrefutable case against drazerk too. i don't think it will be necessary since he's transparent and the town is ready to lynch him today anyways, but i'll do it. i was forced to claim, but my claim will end up helping the town. hopefully if the DT has any sense, he didn't waste a check on me, drazerk, or xedat. i'm assuming he checked you, pyo, supersoft, or one of the other townies that hasn't been accused of anything yet, and got a green. one of you has to be mafia, so when he knows, he'll let us know. what i'm getting at here is, you need to take your focus off of me and find the other scum. let go of the day 1 bullshit, i got pushed into that and did what i had to do to stay alive. xedat and drazerk are both 100% scum and i'm willing to take full responsibility for the town loss if they aren't. once we get 2 scum down, we'll have much much better numbers and you can systematically lynch me if you still feel that i bussed both of my teammates. how does that sound? | ||
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with how it is: gtrsrs (3) Pyo Treadmill Xedat Xedat (4) supersoft Drazerk gtrsrs CjrNinja Drazerk (2) freeloader625 Alderan drazerk can just swing his vote off of xedat at the end of the day onto me, to put me in the lead 4-3. freeloader or alderan you need to vote for xedat | ||
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Pyo Xedat Xedat (4) supersoft Drazerk gtrsrs CjrNinja Drazerk (3) freeloader625 Alderan Drazerk interesting. i think the case against xedat is stronger. i'd prefer to lynch him today. i wonder what happens when drazerk pulls his vote off of xedat now. it's a 3way tie then. i think technically i hit 3 votes first, but does that "first" get reset now that i'm at 2? would xedat now be the new "first" to hit 3? or does something else happen in a 3-way tie? | ||
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On June 23 2011 05:37 Treadmill wrote: your vote counts are wrong there gtrsrs. i think my counts were right, i just had Drazerk voting for himself, when that should have been you under his name it's nearly the end of day 2, correct? as in, we have 20 minutes til the votes are final, not 24 hours and 20 minutes? i can't remember :x | ||
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well i'm obviously terrible at this i was 100% convinced that xedat was scum how could he not be? anyways gg mafia i'm sorry town i don't see how we can win at this point i quit gg | ||
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i led you astray my entire perception of this game was based on xedat and drazerk being obvious scum. with xedat flipping green i don't even know if drazerk is scum any more. masterfully played by mafia. i am really questioning my ability to even play mafia i literally cannot believe that xedat was green. like my mind is failing to comprehend it anyways quitting now would be the wrong thing to do. treadmill is right, however. every lynch is lylo. please just kill me tonight mafia. if i don't die tonight, GMarshal can you just make tomorrow like 12 hours if the town votes for me so we can just put this game behind us? | ||
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i made a huge error and i lost the town the game and i'm sorry | ||
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i'm thinking about it more i think we do not have a DT, and alderan lied about being roleblocked that means mafia will HAVE to kill me tonight (oh please god kill me) or risk me making a save tonight. if i make a save the town can win, but if mafia kills me they lose their scapegoat i don't believe in my ability to make decisions any more so i won't lead any more lynches, i'll just sheep along with whatever you guys want. if you have a save suggestion i'll gladly follow it too | ||
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i tried to protect supersoft on night 1 he defended me pretty solidly and i assumed that by throwing the town's attention onto freeloader, mafia would try to WIFOM and protect the next most adamant supporter of me, so i would be the easy lynch today | ||
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before we compile data we need to give a chance for someone else to claim. if you're the real detective then you need to step forward and claim now. give us your n1 report and we can decide who is telling the truth, you or Pyo. if no one steps forward, we have to take Pyo at his word. not sure why he claimed during the night phase tbh. now mafia can kill one of us and roleblock the other. either way we have 0 chance at a save and 0 new info tomorrow. really should have waited til the day. | ||
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the mafia had no reason NOT to roleblock me on n1. it's quite conceivable that Pyo is mafia faking a cop claim, and alderan is mafia faking a roleblocked claim. there's no roleblocker or cop, the mafia left me alive as a scapegoat and chanced that i wouldn't get a save. there's still no roleblocker, i will not be blocked tonight, and i will either die or have another shot at a save. | ||
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i have no strong town reads on anyone because my scum detector is broken so it's just as likely that i tried to save scum, which would only be more embarassing i hope i just die tonight instead | ||
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his claim timing makes 0 sense. this means that alderan is lying too. i swear on my mother's eternal soul that i am the medic though. that puts drazerk as our third mafia. did pyo just pull and Idra and give away a won game for mafia? | ||
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On June 24 2011 06:06 Pyo wrote: First of all, yes I was lying. Second, gtrsrs, I really wish you weren't so goddamned cocky and arrogant. I gifted you a chance to save yourself and you just pissed it away by being so over-eager to call out my lie. Note that you alone were the only one who could have confirmed it to be the case. If you had just "admitted" to having blue claimed to save your skin, you'd be alive. Third, is there an actual DT out there? Was anyone roleblocked tonight? Now's the time to claim. on the contrary, i fucked this game hard i'm glad to be dead and cleared sorry for all my mis-plays town, i really ate shit this game good luck also, hilarious night post, GM, top notch | ||
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retrospectively i hope you all see why lynching anyone but lord vatti on day 1 was a huge mistake, which snowballed into a town loss IMO oh well i'm glad it's over gg mafia, vwp | ||
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your claim was not fooling the mafia at all, it's silly to think that. they knew there was no detective. me claiming to have lied wouldn't have done anything. i was *hoping* that you WERE the detective, and by me loudly claiming you had to be lying, it would wifom you into getting a read or something. i dunno. either way it was pointless imo | ||
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