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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 07 2011 02:19 GMT
#24
/in
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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 11 2011 03:20 GMT
#52
Just graduated, said goodbye to all my friends, and got dumped by my girlfriend. I need mafia to take my mind off of all that shit.

Gogogo start! (but keep doing that MSL stuff because it's awesome).
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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 11 2011 19:10 GMT
#65
It's a good skill toi have, isn't it?

This mason thing is really interesting. I'm really curious as to how this game will play out.
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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 12 2011 02:38 GMT
#68
If we begin communications with a player, are we limited to conversing with PMs, or are other out-of-thread communications allowed?

I've got a friend who might be interested in joining, and he'd benefit from having somebody to guide him/converse with him. Trouble is, he doesn't use TL, so PMs wouldn't be a very effective form of communications.
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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 12 2011 15:30 GMT
#75
On June 12 2011 21:19 Mataza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 11:38 Varpulis wrote:
I've got a friend who might be interested in joining, and he'd benefit from having somebody to guide him/converse with him. Trouble is, he doesn't use TL, so PMs wouldn't be a very effective form of communications.

How do you suppose he will play in this game without visiting TL, when the game is on TL after all?

The friend in question is Lazorbear (that guy above with 1 post). I know him IRL, and chatting outside of TL would be much easier because we already talk practically every night.

ofc he'll visit TL for the game, but he's not a regular user, so I was inquiring about alternate forms of communication.
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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 13 2011 16:48 GMT
#99
On June 13 2011 18:16 hiro protagonist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 17:06 FudgeMunkey wrote:
Voting Rules

1. Voting will be done in a separate thread, to be made at the commencement of the game. That thread will only be used for voting. Please do not PM me your vote.
2. Vote using the following format: ##Vote JimboSilvers. Similarly, change votes by first unvoting: ##Unvote JimboSilvers. Votes not done in the correct fashion will not be counted. Either Incognito or myself will update the vote count periodically.
3. No conditional voting.
4. You may not vote for yourself or anybody that is dead, outside of the game, or imaginary.
5. In the event of a tie the person who attained the highest number of votes first loses.
6. Voting is mandatory. You may not abstain.



My first question is Can you get Mod killed if you don't vote?
My second question is "Vote using the following format: ##Vote JimboSilvers." If you don't vote using this format will it not count, therefore meaning you get Mod killed for not voting?


Yep, you will be Mod killed for not voting. No, you most likely wont be Mod killed for for voting the wrong way, as someone will most likely point out to you that you voted wrong. If you vote wrong it messes up the tally and we get situations like the missed vote in Mafia XL...

Yeah, that was actually my bad, not because of bad vote formatting. Format it correctly, though, because it's a lot easier to read through and tally up 5 instances of
##vote: Varpulis
than it is to read and tally
I would like to vote for Varpulis
Varpulis gets my vote
I want to lynch Varpulis
It'd be even worse if you were unvoting. at the same time.
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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 13 2011 17:55 GMT
#104
Got my role. Hopefully won't fuck up this game as much as last time.
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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 13 2011 18:03 GMT
#107
The game hasn't even started yet and I already know that you're scum. When does the voting thread get created?
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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 13 2011 18:10 GMT
#109
0.o how long 'till the night post then?
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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 14 2011 02:02 GMT
#133
Let's roll, bitches. RoL is scum. Nobody mason him.
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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 14 2011 03:01 GMT
#142
A couple of guidelines for blues/players in general:
  • Don't mason people at random right away and certainly do not mason people who ask you to unless you're damn sure that they're town.
  • In this setup, it might be worth detectives checking strong players night 0, so that you have a confirmed townie who knows what he's doing to mason should you need somebody to discuss things with later on.
  • Medics should pick their protects from a pool of players that you'd like on the town's side later on. Mafia is likely to try to eliminate strong players before they have a chance to scumhunt.
  • Vigis should absolutely not be shooting night 1. Your chances of hitting scum only get better if you be patient.
  • In PMs:
    -Do not roleclaim
    -Do not assume that the player that you're talking to is not mafia

That's all that I can think of atm. If you agree, disagree, or would like to add suggestions, do so. Let's get this discussion started.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 14 2011 04:55 GMT
#181
@sandroba: no. There are myriad ways that your plan could go straight to hell. Blues: do not claim to sandroba.

@zodiac lists: cool.
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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 14 2011 05:10 GMT
#191
On June 14 2011 13:58 Pondo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 13:50 Scamp wrote:
Oh hey I made it on a list.

Did sandroba say that it discourages mafia from killing people on the list? Because I'm pretty sure BC said for medics to protect people not on the list, thus the people who are on the list are wide open.


The way I understand it; Its suppose to protect the vet townies on the list because if the mafia lynch one then it draws more attention to the remaining people on the list (some of which may be mafia). I really don't think that its worth it though.

Wrong. It's meant to force veteran players to prove that they're pro-town by exposing them to extra scrutiny, and protect the vets because mafia on the list will be under even more scrutiny if one of them gets night killed. It's a great idea, just something to keep in the back of your mind while playing.
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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 14 2011 05:12 GMT
#192
On June 14 2011 14:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
I propose a representative newbie be placed on the list and nominate myself or Mataza or both.

why?
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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 14 2011 17:59 GMT
#227
@Mataza did you even read the analysis of the plan? Ver said that the town got extremely lucky, and that a skilled mafia team could have and would have sniped off all the blues involved.

In XXX, mafia did not play the way mafia needs to play in a PM game, and let the town collect into an unstoppable force of confirmed roles.

Sandroba's plan can go wrong if
  • Mafia decides to fake vet/vigi and pm's him, gaining access to the circle and the opportunity to fuck of the decision making
  • sandroba is mafia or GF
  • sandroba dies (night 0 dt checks wasted)
  • sandroba gets framed

There are probably more scenarios that fuck up the plan, can't think of them right now.

Same for RoL's mass mason request. I urge people to stop masoning him at least until the night is over. To those who already have: Don't take what he says as gospel.

Right now it's better to be patient. I agree with BC, small cells will work better than all encompassing circles, because they're less likely to collapse and just cause confusion and mistrust.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 15 2011 17:28 GMT
#295
Not sure what to make of ilovejonn right now. His posting is definitely overly conservative and safe, and i see parallels to his play in XXIX, but I haven't played a game with him where he was town, so I don't have an effective point of comparison. (reading the thread in hindsight is different, because you don't get a feel for the pace and the environment)

As for his defense, It's not compelling. I'm going to keep an eye out for his posting today, but I'm not convinced enough to put down a vote.

Moving on, FudgeMunkey needs to post better. He's got a relatively high post count, but hasn't said much of anything.

Most of his posts follow the following format:
ask a basic question or agree with somebody
state the obvious [elispes]
make a conclusion based off of obvious statement.[possibly more elipses]

Please try to add more content to your posts.

I'm liking the considerably less spammy environment.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 15 2011 17:33 GMT
#296
EBWOP: oh, and I agree with the FoS on aidnai for spamming and stating the obvious a lot. His post about bluesniping makes me unsure though. it could very well be just helpful advice with the intention of preserving our power roles for longer.

I'd pay close attention to him too.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 15 2011 20:00 GMT
#315
FoS sinani206.

After declining to post N0 (not inherently scummy, though i disagree with the reasoning) Sinani begins posting on the topic of ilovejonn, as brought up by Youngminii. he is referring to youngminii's analysis here
On June 15 2011 15:09 sinani206 wrote:
youngminii: Stop metagaming. Or at least if you have to, don't use it as your only argument. I can see why would be useful in some situations, but with a N0 start, playstyles will be drastically different. It's a good start for early pressure, but don't make it your only argument against anyone.

ilovejonn: youngminii is the only one accusing you... Why are you responding with such a long argument? You should ignore accusations like that and just look for more scum. The fact that you are even responding at all is kind of scummy. Just ignore pressure accusations like that and scumhunt. No need for this defense.

He criticizes the accusation and the defender, not really taking a stance. In the bolded sentences, he defends ilovejonn by stating that meta is not valid because of the night 0 start, but then calls ilovejonn scummy for defending himself.

On June 15 2011 15:27 sinani206 wrote:
Playstyles will be different. The fact that you have a chance of dying without knowing how much you have to defend yourself will change your playstyle, and affect it through the game.

I know that discussion is necessary, but I still feel that time and brainpower are better spent scumhunting than defending yourself. Look for people that were scummy during the night time and pressure them. The pressure on ilovejonn is based on metagame and that is pretty much worthless with the PMs and N0 start. This game is different and you have to be able to accept that. You can't use metagaming as an easy way out to actually analysing players.

Repeats what he said before, does the same thing, saying that the analysis is bad while saying that ilovejonn defending himself is not good play.

The bolded phrase especially bothers me. Why would you say that? This makes me suspicious that he's trying to reassure us that he's town and knows how to play.

Once youngminii calls him out for disregarding part of his analysis and telling people just to scumhunt instead of defend themselves, he gets defensive and apologetic.

On June 15 2011 16:13 sinani206 wrote:
youngminii, I acknowledged that you were scumhunting and that ilovejonn wasn't. Those were the two bases for my previous posts. I was simply urging you to go beyond metagaming, which you have done, and for ilovejonn to start actually scumhunting, since he seems to have enough time to defend himself. You have done what I urged you to do and that is good. ilovejonn, however, has not. He is, even after my posts, defending himself more and more and this is scummy behavior. I apologize, youngminii, for not explaining myself clearly. You are doing fine. It is ilovejonn who needs to up his game.

This post is basically just sucking up to Youngminii. By agreeing with a vocal pro town player, he's attempting to make himself seem more pro town himself. Also, he's defending his actions when nobody is accusing him.

Sinani is falsely contributing, attempting to blend in, and playing too safe.


On June 15 2011 16:13 sinani206 wrote:
It is ilovejonn who needs to up his game.

On June 16 2011 03:41 sinani206 wrote:
Step up your game.

no u
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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 16 2011 02:07 GMT
#325
Activity level is disappointing, to say the least. Sinani, you posted a joke after all the analysis on you was posted. You've obviously been reading the thread, would you care to contribute?

To the lurkers:
Please post. Who do you think is scum? What do you think is a good course of action for the day? Give me a reason not to lynch you. The more townies lurk, the easier it is for lurking scum to hide. You're doing us a disservice by not posting.

@Mataza wtf is Hypocop?
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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 16 2011 03:27 GMT
#327
...except that it won't, actually, because everybody with a brain will say "bad plan, no." The responses will all be the same, so it won't be a discussion as much as an excuse for lurking scum to look like their contributing.

God, is that a terrible strategy though. Playing into the scumteam's hands much?

RoL, you promised activity and contributions in 9 hours:
On June 15 2011 22:44 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I will be a sober, conscious, contributing member of XLII society in roughly 9 hours.

...13 hours ago. Explain.
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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 16 2011 03:56 GMT
#331
If we can't get a good discussion going, I agree completely that we should lynch a lurker. Would non contributory Zodiac list members be candidates for such a lynch?

On the subject of the current suspects: I think that ilovejonn is town, not sure about aidnai, and sinani is either scum or just playing very poorly, waiting to see his defense/actual contributions. I'm not confident at all that any of them is scum. If I had to pick one to lynch, it'd definitely be sinani.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 16 2011 15:38 GMT
#364
So, sinani isn't back, eh? ##Vote Sinani206 Reasons
He hasn't defended himself or started scumhunting, despite posting in the thread, even when prodded. It's time to turn up the heat. I personally think that ilovejonn is town, and aidnai is in the clear in my book too, for now.

That leaves sinani.

Oh, and to the dudes voting without posting: Major FoS. Seriously, why? Don't just vote to avoid the modkill, play the game, for christ's sake. grassgiraffe, could you tell us what you think of the game so far? Your only post has been the worst bandwagon I've ever seen.

Node is still unaccounted for, right?
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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 16 2011 19:49 GMT
#388
Vote's coming off sinani. He's here, defense is sufficient for now. Stop bandwagoning him, please.

The pressure was good, but this bandwagon is bad. Kenpachi, why is BC the godfather?
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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 17 2011 00:35 GMT
#483
On June 17 2011 05:47 syllogism wrote:
Lazorbear hasn't voted and made his only post on n0, so unless a miracle occurs he is getting mod killed anyway. He is a friend of varpulis and it sounded like he was going to mason him. Any insights you would like to share about him Varpulis?

He's a bored townie, from what he's been saying to me. He's not spending any time on the thread, i'm not sure he's even caught up. Count him useless, waste of a lynch though, if he even remembers to vote. Not sure why he joined the game, tbh.

Reading through hiro protagonist's posts now, verdict in a sec.
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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 17 2011 00:55 GMT
#487
hiro is scum. Some gems of his scum posting are:
On June 14 2011 13:10 hiro protagonist wrote:
EBWOP: I know its night time, and thats when we talk about blue roles, but lets not focus all of our energy into "what should blues do, and mansion me plz!!!" come day, lets focus on getting to know one another.

"No discussion guys, because discussion is bad." Pursuing scum objective by quelling discussion.
On June 16 2011 14:11 hiro protagonist wrote:
@OpZ: I agree that some of those players look scummy. I am curtain that Mafia has all ready posted in fact. but after going though the thread, I dont see that many scum tells. There is just not enough for me to go on right now. Lets keep up the pressure on those three.

FoS on Sandroba:
Maybe I am reading this wrong, but Sandroba is know for Sticking his neck out with plans like the one he said. He is also really good at wiggling out of suspicion. It would make sense for scum to bate out talk on night one that would give them info on players, so they can better aim there hits. His plan did just that. So Sandroba, may I ask why you would say this on night zero? Would it not be better to wait till day 1 to bring this up? are you still interested in applying you plan?

depending on his answers, I might vote for Sandroba. Otherwise, I think lynching one of the lurkers might be a good idea.

@Paragraph 1: "There are scum, but I don't know who they are." Blanket statement, filler.

@Paragraph 2: "Sandroba got people talking, so he's scummy. Also, i'll bring up that bad plan again for good measure." Derailment, poor FoS on an easy target. Also, he declines to actually take a stance on the current suspects.

On June 17 2011 06:28 hiro protagonist wrote:
As for the lynch targets, sinani, and ILJ still look suspicious to me. ILJ more so, because his slip into lurker mode. I want to see him scum hunt, cus right now the only contribution I see from him is defending himself. However, I wont vote for him because he is under the gun, We have ample opportunity to see if he slips up, or scum tells.

One person that is really flying under the radar is Impervious. So far all his post have had little substance, and smell sightly of scum.

As for the lurkers, One stands out and thats grassgiraffe. The others have yet to post much but grass last post SCREAMS out "I made my vote, and I'm out". I know, because that sounds exactly like some of the lurkers in SNMMII. They would simply come in once or twice during the day and say,"yep, I agree with so and so, vote: name here". I am 90% sure he is town, and 100% sure we dont need him. come prove me wrong grass.

##Vote: grassgiraffe

"ilovejonn and sinani are suspicious. So is Impervious. I'm voting grassgiraffe, who I'm 90% sure is town." Contradictory statement, big scumslip.

I'm currently of the opinion that both grassgiraffe and ilovejonn are town, and that lynching them would be a mistake.

##vote hiro protagonist
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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 17 2011 02:01 GMT
#526
On June 17 2011 09:42 flamewheel wrote:
The lynch result may be slightly delayed... I have to attend to something.

...
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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 17 2011 02:44 GMT
#553
Probably not, it's worth trying though. It's nice that the ultra inactives got modkilled so we don't have to deal with them.

I feel for ya, ilj.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 17 2011 15:40 GMT
#582
FudgeMunkey, why did you feel it was necessary to explain the mechanics of KP when nobody asked about them?

Why did you vote for sinani without posting in the thread?

Why was your only comment about the lynch targets just agreeing with Youngminii about ilovejonn being scummy?

I'd like an explanation, because right now scum bells are ringing in my head.


ROL, what the hell are you doing? Holding the town hostage by promising to post more if somebody vigi's Kenpachi?
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 18 2011 02:10 GMT
#652
goddammit. 2 blues, just our luck. Why shoot impervious though? He was 100% useless yesterday.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 18 2011 02:19 GMT
#654
Alright then. I think that it would be in the town's favor to consolidate our votes on 3 or so candidates, to force people to take a stance. Exactly who those targets should be I'm not sure yet, but hiro protagonist should definitely be among them.

I'm looking through Mig's posts now.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 18 2011 02:24 GMT
#656
Well, that was fast. Mig didn't post too much. He voted and pushed for sinani206, so if he was crumbing a check that returned red, it was about sinani.

Most likely he got a green result from a check on a townie though.

Anybody like to claim shooting impervious? By extension, if you got hit, claim it.
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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 18 2011 02:26 GMT
#657
And now, to voting. ##vote Fudgemunkey

Explain yourself.
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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 18 2011 15:03 GMT
#682
##unvote FudgeMunkey

Yay for pressure working. I expect the same level of effort and explanation of your actions for the rest of the game, or we'll have a problem again.

It worries me greatly that ROL is silent in PMs. Practically the only thing going for him in my book was the possibility that he was full of activity in PM land. ROL, step it up, big time.

##vote RebirthOfLeGenD
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 19 2011 01:12 GMT
#707
Vote stays on ROL until I see this in depth analysis that he's promised. Not sure that I like how quiet this bandwagon is. There's no opposition, no long arguments against, everybody seems content with bandwagoning and moving on.

ROL, I'd like to see the reasons for that town read on Hiro, because my vote would go to him if it wasn't on you.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 19 2011 07:49 GMT
#719
Dammit, I need sleep. ##unvote RebirthOfLeGenD

I've got a bit of a null read on syllogism at the moment, will take a closer look at his posting tomorrow, because I'm not quite thinking straight at the moment.

Town needs to be more active. Hopefully the thread will pick up when somebody other than RebirthOfLeGenD is leading the lynch.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 19 2011 07:51 GMT
#720
I've got a bit of a null read on syllogism at the moment, will take a closer look at his posting tomorrow, because I'm not quite thinking straight at the moment.

Oh god, I really do need sleep. Repeating the same phrase twice in the same sentence...
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 19 2011 16:42 GMT
#734
##vote Hiro Protagonist

define lurking in a quiet thread. It's not like killing the people with the least posts is going to get everybody posting like crazy. We make far better use of our time and lynch if we lynch to kill scum, not eliminate lurkers.

I don't buy the "he's town because his defense seems so genuine" argument. Words are words, anybody can say them. If mafia wants to look sincere, it's not that hard.

Hiro, I suggest that you bring another lynch target to the table, instead of wasting your time defending yourself.
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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 19 2011 19:28 GMT
#744
I'm still really unsure about syllogism. I've read through his posts 3 times, and I can't confidently say mafia or town. I'm leaving my vote on Hiro, at least for the time being.

I suggest that we consolidate our votes to three possible lynches, to avoid letting scum hide behind outlier votes.
  • syllogism
  • Hiro Protagonist
  • RebirthOfLeGenD

Is that list OK with people?

Everybody should pick one, and vote for them, providing reasons as to why they are picking that person over the other two. Protest voting a lurker or somebody in no danger of being lynched is not going to accomplish anything.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 19 2011 19:52 GMT
#753
On June 20 2011 04:38 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 04:28 Varpulis wrote:
I'm still really unsure about syllogism. I've read through his posts 3 times, and I can't confidently say mafia or town. I'm leaving my vote on Hiro, at least for the time being.

I suggest that we consolidate our votes to three possible lynches, to avoid letting scum hide behind outlier votes.
  • syllogism
  • Hiro Protagonist
  • RebirthOfLeGenD

Is that list OK with people?

Everybody should pick one, and vote for them, providing reasons as to why they are picking that person over the other two. Protest voting a lurker or somebody in no danger of being lynched is not going to accomplish anything.

There's no need to explicitly state "these 3 people", it'll become a battle between them anyway. I know I posted a bunch of stuff on RoL but I never actually voted for him because it was just pressure, which seems to have made its point ^^

I'm voting for Hiro because, what can I say, he just seems really scummy to me. He's been accused by two people with separate analyses (which have made perfect sense by the way, I don't know why I didn't pay more attention to them earlier) and lol at his responses He just keeps going around being scum.

I COULD give examples, but aidnai and sinani already have. My mind is undecided about Syllogism by the way.

The list is mostly a response to day 1's lynch. Let's take a look at the final tally, shall we?
On June 17 2011 12:16 flamewheel wrote:
Day 1 Vote Tally

Votes for ilovejonn (7): Mataza, syllogism, Shraft, DeMorcerf, aidnai, youngminii, hiro protagonist,

Votes for sinani206 (3): Mig, FudgeMunkey, grassgiraffe

Votes for Kenpachi (2): RebirthOfLeGenD, sinani206

Votes for Impervious (1): GGQ

Votes for grassgiraffe (5): BloodyC0bbler, LandenC, Jacinto, Node, Mr. Wiggles

Votes for hiro protagonist (6): sandroba, Varpulis, VisceraEyes, Kenpachi, ilovejonn, ~OpZ~,

Votes for syllogism (1): Scamp

Votes for Mr. Wiggles (1): Impervious

ilovejonn is to be lynched. Lazorbear is to be modkilled.

8 votes that not only do nothing, but also allow scum to hide. I'd rather everybody voted for one of the leading lynches, so that we know where everybody stands.

I'd even consider removing ROL from that list. He was only there because he has a bunch of votes, but the general consensus is that he's town.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 19 2011 20:04 GMT
#756
On June 20 2011 04:55 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 04:28 Varpulis wrote:
I'm still really unsure about syllogism. I've read through his posts 3 times, and I can't confidently say mafia or town. I'm leaving my vote on Hiro, at least for the time being.

I suggest that we consolidate our votes to three possible lynches, to avoid letting scum hide behind outlier votes.
  • syllogism
  • Hiro Protagonist
  • RebirthOfLeGenD

Is that list OK with people?

Everybody should pick one, and vote for them, providing reasons as to why they are picking that person over the other two. Protest voting a lurker or somebody in no danger of being lynched is not going to accomplish anything.

Seriously, why am I even on this list?

On June 20 2011 04:52 Varpulis wrote:
I'd even consider removing ROL from that list. He was only there because he has a bunch of votes, but the general consensus is that he's town.


For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 19 2011 20:48 GMT
#763
On June 20 2011 05:35 LandenC wrote:
##Vote syllogism

stealth vote. Care to explain?
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 19 2011 20:57 GMT
#766
FoS LandenC for actively lurking.
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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 19 2011 23:08 GMT
#778
On June 20 2011 08:03 ~OpZ~ wrote:
##unvote
##Vote syllogism



Yo ~OpZ~, what up with the stealth vote?
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 20 2011 02:16 GMT
#801
sooo, which nice vigi would like to paint a target on hiro tonight? That's the second lynch he's dodged now.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 20 2011 04:28 GMT
#812
On June 20 2011 13:01 sandroba wrote:
RoL, why are you asking for DT checks on people on hiro's lynch while asking for a vig shot on hiro? That's like you are already assuming he will flip green. What the hell is your logic here?

...when did he ask for that? What am I missing in PM land?
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 20 2011 17:58 GMT
#834
On June 20 2011 18:59 Mataza wrote:
By extension, @Varpulis, why did you find FudgeMonkey worth your vote but did not push for him at all?
Looking through his posts, it´s evident he is a worthy candidate for lynch for active lurking and only contributing when he´s personally asked to, yet you didn´t follow through?
This really worries me.

Pressure, d00d. He came through with a response, so I moved on to more pressure on RoL to actually start playing, then voted for who i had the strongest read on, Hiro. It's no use trying to lynch every person that you find scummy on the spot. I left him for another day. Is there a problem?
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 21 2011 03:39 GMT
#883
##vote FudgeMunkey

FudgeMunkey has been actively lurking all game. He posts nothing of content, but instantly responded to the light pressure that I applied day 2, before going back to lurking.

He voted sinani day 1 and ROL day 2. He has yet to weigh in on any of the major lynches, or provide much of an opinion on anything.

I'll have a more detailed analysis when I'm less tired, too lazy to go through his posts now.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 21 2011 17:17 GMT
#902
FudgeMunkey


Since the beginning of day 2, I've had my eye on FudgeMunkey. He's been providing the bare minimum of content, avoiding doing anything he could be held accountable for, and lurking actively.

1. Content In the early game (N0) he was relatively active. Unfortunately, he was doing nothing but stating the obvious a lot. Some examples of his fluff posting are:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 14 2011 16:00 FudgeMunkey wrote:
Why are people masoning so quickly?
I thought your supposed to make sure that the person you mason is actually trustworthy rather than just mason who ever has the most posts or the biggest...
I mean who knows?
You may be masoning Mafia straight away which is kinda a waste because they may not talk back to you...
-_-


On June 14 2011 17:06 FudgeMunkey wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
because I can analyze and rape everyone in this game via PM. Now do it or you are all mafia.


In conclusion RoL hopes he can 'rape' everyone via Pms...

+ Show Spoiler +
Wow, this started quicker than I expected. That's fine with me though

Just to catch up with everything, Sandroba's plan has already been sufficiently debunked. If RoL is actually masoning with tons of people... good for him I guess? but as was pointed out with sandroba's plan, if RoL dies, all those people lose their mason connection, so... yeah, regardless, I'm not masoning with anyone AT LEAST until day, and even then, I'll probably save one of them for a few days when I have better reads on everyone.

I'm really relieved to have a PM game again, haven't been too many recently.


and yes if RoL dies you will lose your mason connection if you have chosen him so I advise that you wait at least another day or two before you mason anyone else...

Stating obvious facts, and giving basic advice to appear helpful.

Moving on to day 1, his activity goes away. He has a grand total of 1 post in day 1:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 15 2011 15:59 FudgeMunkey wrote:
Yes, I agree with 'youngminii'...
It seems as if the 'scum' never seem to support a strategy and instead find ways to make it look like its incorrect/false or just plain stupid...
They hope to make it look like the person there arguing with is obviously Scum rather than townie or Blue.

fluff.

Day 2, he posts some content (once) that is very safe and noncommittal, while night 2 he goes right back to fluff:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 20 2011 16:47 FudgeMunkey wrote:
WOW!
Three Townie dead...
These two really shouldn't of been mod killed... Aidnai and Grassgiraffe although Grassgiraffe did a whole lot of nothing...

So... guys what now?

Even after being warned to step up his posting (my clause for removing my vote day 2) He's done absolutely nothing to improve. This leads me to believe that there's a deliberate reason for his lurking, and that reason paints him scum

Oh, and did I mention that he has yet to post an opinion on anybody who has been or could have been lynched? Because he hasn't.

2. Not doing anything that he could be held accountable for FudgeMunkey has been playing it very safe this game. Every time he agrees with somebody it's a popular opinion, and his votes never end up on anybody who ends up being a lynch target, freeing him from responsibility or suspicion for bandwagoning a townie.

agreeing with popular opinions
+ Show Spoiler +

Day 1
On June 15 2011 15:59 FudgeMunkey wrote:
Yes, I agree with 'youngminii'...
It seems as if the 'scum' never seem to support a strategy and instead find ways to make it look like its incorrect/false or just plain stupid...
They hope to make it look like the person there arguing with is obviously Scum rather than townie or Blue.

Though it's tough to determine exactly what he's commenting on because his statement is so vague, I'm guessing that he's agreeing that sinani is suspicious for criticizing youngminii's analysis.

Day 2
On June 18 2011 16:38 FudgeMunkey wrote:
To DeMorcef

Show nested quote +
What bothers me the most about FudgeM is "To be completely honest I voted for Sinani because I hadn't had time to read all the posts, so yes i was 'stealth voting'". Why would a town cast a vote for (at the time) a major lynch candidate without fully reading up first; that's horrible! Should we read this as, a scum who knows sinani is town (not that I'm sure sinani is town or not), or was told by his accomplices to cast this vote, even though he hasn't had time to actually read the thread?


I understand your anger with me for not reading through the whole thread before posting, I have been busy with School work and so forth and I didn't want to get mod killed. I have read through the pages I have missed out on and I am pritty sure I'm up to date with the rest of you.



On another note,
I agree with Youngminii and VisceraEyes, RoL hasn't been putting the most useful information into this thread and the posts he ends up posting end up with him taunting the town as Youngminii stated.

+ Show Spoiler +
I had a much busier day then I thought, and I ended up going to a party 2.5 hours away last night on an hours notice. But tomorrow I will try to be much more active until I head back into new jersey for a couple of days.


Just some FYI, every day when I wake up and F5 this thread I am given a choice. I can A. Do some analysis and make sure you guys don't fuck up too bad, or B. Watch a marathon of 24. So far 24 has won the last 2 days. Maybe, just maybe if a vigi shoots Kenpachi tonight, 24 will lose the mental coin toss tomorrow.

Just some advice.


Obviously he'd rather do something else than be in this game and he is a Waste of Space...
He is obviously taunting the town to see how long he will last and so far it seems to be working, NO ONE IS VOTING FOR HIM.
Before I cast my vote into his/her basket I shall read more of the thread to make my decision final (just to make sure DeMorcef will be happy!)

Very cautiously agrees with the suspicion against ROL


Votes
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 16 2011 18:43 FudgeMunkey wrote:
##Vote sinani206

this was a stealth vote later on in the day, too.
On June 19 2011 09:30 FudgeMunkey wrote:
##vote RebirthOfLeGenD

bandwagoning

Neither of those people have been actual possible lynches at the end of the day


3. Active lurking Despite not posting often or at all for long stretches, FudgeMunkey responds quickly to criticisms and accusations.
On June 18 2011 13:03 FudgeMunkey wrote:
To Varpulis

Show nested quote +
FudgeMunkey, why did you feel it was necessary to explain the mechanics of KP when nobody asked about them?

Why did you vote for sinani without posting in the thread?

Why was your only comment about the lynch targets just agreeing with Youngminii about ilovejonn being scummy?

I'd like an explanation, because right now scum bells are ringing in my head.


Well I shall answer your questions.
1. I felt it was necessary to explain the mechanics of KP, because Kenpachi asked wether KP mean't KenPachi or KillPower.
Yes you are right now one asked anyone to explain the mechanics of KP, but i thought it would be nice to get it out of the way for anyone who didn't quite know what it meant.

2/3. To be completely honest I voted for Sinani because I hadn't had time to read all the posts, so yes i was 'stealth voting'. I was however going to change my vote to Grassgiraffe because he has not contributed to the town at all.
I agreed with Youngminii about voting for Sinani becuase he proved a point, Also i never actually voted for Ilovejohn...

I took my vote off with the clause that he should put as much effOrt into explaining his thoughts and actions in the future.

Also, "I was going to change to grassgiraffe" is weak. It's playing extra-safe by saying that he would have wanted to lynch the guy that almost got lynched, but didn't.
On June 21 2011 14:51 FudgeMunkey wrote:
To Varpulis

I may be have been lurking for most of the game, but at least I'm reading through most the posts and at least half contributing! Unlike other lurkers who just watch, post something so they don't get mod killed and then go back into lurking mode...

and this defense is even weaker. "sure, I've been lurking, but he's been lurking too, so it's ok."

His quick defenses and returns to lurker mode make me conclude that FudgeMunkey is scum.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 21 2011 17:20 GMT
#903
ROL would be a nice lynch too though, considering that he's nearly confirmed scum.

mafia has been bluesniping really well this game, and taking care of blues as soon as they found them (example: chaos13) I find it hard to believe that both a blue and his mason were hit last night.

Theory: ROL heard about Mataza being blue from sandroba, and decided to off both of them so that there'd be nobody to connect him to the hits. It would have worked if Mataza wasn't vet.

In my mind, the theory fits. No shit ROL is going to say it's stupid though.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 21 2011 19:49 GMT
#910
RoL, if you flip town, Mataza gets vigi'd and mafia have traded one for one with a townie. Your alternative circumstance is pretty lame, sorry. The "plan" that you claim that the mafia could be doing is pretty retarded, nice try though.

I'm switching my vote. Voting for anybody but RoL would be a mistake right now, but we still need to discuss other possible scum and future lynches. What does everybody think of FudgeMunkey, ~OpZ~, and LadenC? I feel confident that at least one of them is mafia.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 22 2011 15:41 GMT
#1015
I'm not sure if I'm overly trusting or just being stupid, but RoL is making a lot of sense to me. His points, coupled with BC's criticism and Mataza's lack of evidence leads me to believe that it's either a ploy by scum or a really unlucky circumstance. Also, I've been very suspicious of FudgeMunkey for a long time. If RoL vigi's him tonight, I'm content with letting him live.

FudgeMunkey half responded to my analysis, ignored RoL's, and continues to lurk and sheep.

##unvote
##vote Youngminii If he flips green I want to see RoL dead by the morning, k?
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 22 2011 16:13 GMT
#1018
On June 23 2011 00:57 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 00:41 Varpulis wrote:
I'm not sure if I'm overly trusting or just being stupid, but RoL is making a lot of sense to me. His points, coupled with BC's criticism and Mataza's lack of evidence leads me to believe that it's either a ploy by scum or a really unlucky circumstance. Also, I've been very suspicious of FudgeMunkey for a long time. If RoL vigi's him tonight, I'm content with letting him live.

FudgeMunkey half responded to my analysis, ignored RoL's, and continues to lurk and sheep.

##unvote
##vote Youngminii If he flips green I want to see RoL dead by the morning, k?

you know why scum claim vig don't you

because scum can hit people
herp derp

If scum want to kill themselves, i'm cool with that. If FudgeMunkey isn't scum i'll be quite surprised.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 22 2011 16:27 GMT
#1020
Why is FudgeMunkey bored town when LandenC is scum? Do you not see the active lurking and the complete lack of response to requests to contribute? I've attempted to pressure him into activity twice. Both times he made 1 post in his defense then went back to lurking. He's scum, not bored.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 22 2011 16:30 GMT
#1021
On June 23 2011 01:20 youngminii wrote:
you have to learn to differentiate townies that just get bored of the game and scum who are barely hanging on by a thread

Oh, and don't you dare try to discredit my argument because I'm less experienced than you.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 23 2011 02:05 GMT
#1121
kill captain RoL.

He bussed FudgeMunkey, kill him too.

BC might be a nice person to kill as well.

Sorry Youngminii.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 23 2011 05:12 GMT
#1151
So we've potentially got two dt immune scum, and that's why we haven't seen any roleblocks yet? I officially declare any dt check that returns anything but scum worthless, especially if you decided to check BC or RoL.

this is disturbing, to say the least.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 24 2011 05:04 GMT
#1247
I'm dead. So sad, isn't it?
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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 24 2011 16:25 GMT
#1257

This will be interesting to watch.
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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 25 2011 00:16 GMT
#1284
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 26 2011 03:49 GMT
#1359
On June 26 2011 12:09 FudgeMunkey wrote:
HA HA HA!!!

Varpulis and all you cows!!!

Im not mafia!
I told u!!!



Oh and yeah... GG mafia!

Well, if you had actually done anything other than defend yourself whenever I called you out I might have stopped calling you mafia.

When you're being called scum for not contributing, the right response is to contribute, not say "look, those other guys are even less active.

GG mafia, I played terribly, but inactives really killed us.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 27 2011 02:40 GMT
#1380
I've resolved to make a list of lurkers, every game, and if they're still inactive by day three, pushing for their lynches in alphabetical order until they're all dead.

I'm just waiting for the sweet day when I get vigilante. Hell, I'd murder the lurkers as the serial killer, just for the satisfaction. I could claim vig when I eventually hit mafia and get instant mega town cred...

Seriously though, lurkers have lost almost half the games I've played in for town, either directly or indirectly. They do us a disservice if they're town. If you're going to post once per day and make a vote, you're not actually playing, and you'd get the same experience from letting somebody else play in your spot and just watching.

If you find that you can't manage to be active and contribute, get yourself replaced so that when lylo comes it won't be one active player getting run around in circles by the entire scumteam.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
July 07 2011 20:44 GMT
#1411
On July 08 2011 05:27 Bill Murray wrote:
lawn gnomes

lolwut?
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