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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 07 2011 02:19 GMT
#24
/in
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 11 2011 03:20 GMT
#52
Just graduated, said goodbye to all my friends, and got dumped by my girlfriend. I need mafia to take my mind off of all that shit.

Gogogo start! (but keep doing that MSL stuff because it's awesome).
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 11 2011 19:10 GMT
#65
It's a good skill toi have, isn't it?

This mason thing is really interesting. I'm really curious as to how this game will play out.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 12 2011 02:38 GMT
#68
If we begin communications with a player, are we limited to conversing with PMs, or are other out-of-thread communications allowed?

I've got a friend who might be interested in joining, and he'd benefit from having somebody to guide him/converse with him. Trouble is, he doesn't use TL, so PMs wouldn't be a very effective form of communications.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 12 2011 15:30 GMT
#75
On June 12 2011 21:19 Mataza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 11:38 Varpulis wrote:
I've got a friend who might be interested in joining, and he'd benefit from having somebody to guide him/converse with him. Trouble is, he doesn't use TL, so PMs wouldn't be a very effective form of communications.

How do you suppose he will play in this game without visiting TL, when the game is on TL after all?

The friend in question is Lazorbear (that guy above with 1 post). I know him IRL, and chatting outside of TL would be much easier because we already talk practically every night.

ofc he'll visit TL for the game, but he's not a regular user, so I was inquiring about alternate forms of communication.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 13 2011 16:48 GMT
#99
On June 13 2011 18:16 hiro protagonist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 17:06 FudgeMunkey wrote:
Voting Rules

1. Voting will be done in a separate thread, to be made at the commencement of the game. That thread will only be used for voting. Please do not PM me your vote.
2. Vote using the following format: ##Vote JimboSilvers. Similarly, change votes by first unvoting: ##Unvote JimboSilvers. Votes not done in the correct fashion will not be counted. Either Incognito or myself will update the vote count periodically.
3. No conditional voting.
4. You may not vote for yourself or anybody that is dead, outside of the game, or imaginary.
5. In the event of a tie the person who attained the highest number of votes first loses.
6. Voting is mandatory. You may not abstain.



My first question is Can you get Mod killed if you don't vote?
My second question is "Vote using the following format: ##Vote JimboSilvers." If you don't vote using this format will it not count, therefore meaning you get Mod killed for not voting?


Yep, you will be Mod killed for not voting. No, you most likely wont be Mod killed for for voting the wrong way, as someone will most likely point out to you that you voted wrong. If you vote wrong it messes up the tally and we get situations like the missed vote in Mafia XL...

Yeah, that was actually my bad, not because of bad vote formatting. Format it correctly, though, because it's a lot easier to read through and tally up 5 instances of
##vote: Varpulis
than it is to read and tally
I would like to vote for Varpulis
Varpulis gets my vote
I want to lynch Varpulis
It'd be even worse if you were unvoting. at the same time.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 13 2011 17:55 GMT
#104
Got my role. Hopefully won't fuck up this game as much as last time.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 13 2011 18:03 GMT
#107
The game hasn't even started yet and I already know that you're scum. When does the voting thread get created?
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 13 2011 18:10 GMT
#109
0.o how long 'till the night post then?
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 14 2011 02:02 GMT
#133
Let's roll, bitches. RoL is scum. Nobody mason him.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 14 2011 03:01 GMT
#142
A couple of guidelines for blues/players in general:
  • Don't mason people at random right away and certainly do not mason people who ask you to unless you're damn sure that they're town.
  • In this setup, it might be worth detectives checking strong players night 0, so that you have a confirmed townie who knows what he's doing to mason should you need somebody to discuss things with later on.
  • Medics should pick their protects from a pool of players that you'd like on the town's side later on. Mafia is likely to try to eliminate strong players before they have a chance to scumhunt.
  • Vigis should absolutely not be shooting night 1. Your chances of hitting scum only get better if you be patient.
  • In PMs:
    -Do not roleclaim
    -Do not assume that the player that you're talking to is not mafia

That's all that I can think of atm. If you agree, disagree, or would like to add suggestions, do so. Let's get this discussion started.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 14 2011 04:55 GMT
#181
@sandroba: no. There are myriad ways that your plan could go straight to hell. Blues: do not claim to sandroba.

@zodiac lists: cool.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 14 2011 05:10 GMT
#191
On June 14 2011 13:58 Pondo wrote:
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On June 14 2011 13:50 Scamp wrote:
Oh hey I made it on a list.

Did sandroba say that it discourages mafia from killing people on the list? Because I'm pretty sure BC said for medics to protect people not on the list, thus the people who are on the list are wide open.


The way I understand it; Its suppose to protect the vet townies on the list because if the mafia lynch one then it draws more attention to the remaining people on the list (some of which may be mafia). I really don't think that its worth it though.

Wrong. It's meant to force veteran players to prove that they're pro-town by exposing them to extra scrutiny, and protect the vets because mafia on the list will be under even more scrutiny if one of them gets night killed. It's a great idea, just something to keep in the back of your mind while playing.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 14 2011 05:12 GMT
#192
On June 14 2011 14:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
I propose a representative newbie be placed on the list and nominate myself or Mataza or both.

why?
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 14 2011 17:59 GMT
#227
@Mataza did you even read the analysis of the plan? Ver said that the town got extremely lucky, and that a skilled mafia team could have and would have sniped off all the blues involved.

In XXX, mafia did not play the way mafia needs to play in a PM game, and let the town collect into an unstoppable force of confirmed roles.

Sandroba's plan can go wrong if
  • Mafia decides to fake vet/vigi and pm's him, gaining access to the circle and the opportunity to fuck of the decision making
  • sandroba is mafia or GF
  • sandroba dies (night 0 dt checks wasted)
  • sandroba gets framed

There are probably more scenarios that fuck up the plan, can't think of them right now.

Same for RoL's mass mason request. I urge people to stop masoning him at least until the night is over. To those who already have: Don't take what he says as gospel.

Right now it's better to be patient. I agree with BC, small cells will work better than all encompassing circles, because they're less likely to collapse and just cause confusion and mistrust.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 15 2011 17:28 GMT
#295
Not sure what to make of ilovejonn right now. His posting is definitely overly conservative and safe, and i see parallels to his play in XXIX, but I haven't played a game with him where he was town, so I don't have an effective point of comparison. (reading the thread in hindsight is different, because you don't get a feel for the pace and the environment)

As for his defense, It's not compelling. I'm going to keep an eye out for his posting today, but I'm not convinced enough to put down a vote.

Moving on, FudgeMunkey needs to post better. He's got a relatively high post count, but hasn't said much of anything.

Most of his posts follow the following format:
ask a basic question or agree with somebody
state the obvious [elispes]
make a conclusion based off of obvious statement.[possibly more elipses]

Please try to add more content to your posts.

I'm liking the considerably less spammy environment.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 15 2011 17:33 GMT
#296
EBWOP: oh, and I agree with the FoS on aidnai for spamming and stating the obvious a lot. His post about bluesniping makes me unsure though. it could very well be just helpful advice with the intention of preserving our power roles for longer.

I'd pay close attention to him too.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 15 2011 20:00 GMT
#315
FoS sinani206.

After declining to post N0 (not inherently scummy, though i disagree with the reasoning) Sinani begins posting on the topic of ilovejonn, as brought up by Youngminii. he is referring to youngminii's analysis here
On June 15 2011 15:09 sinani206 wrote:
youngminii: Stop metagaming. Or at least if you have to, don't use it as your only argument. I can see why would be useful in some situations, but with a N0 start, playstyles will be drastically different. It's a good start for early pressure, but don't make it your only argument against anyone.

ilovejonn: youngminii is the only one accusing you... Why are you responding with such a long argument? You should ignore accusations like that and just look for more scum. The fact that you are even responding at all is kind of scummy. Just ignore pressure accusations like that and scumhunt. No need for this defense.

He criticizes the accusation and the defender, not really taking a stance. In the bolded sentences, he defends ilovejonn by stating that meta is not valid because of the night 0 start, but then calls ilovejonn scummy for defending himself.

On June 15 2011 15:27 sinani206 wrote:
Playstyles will be different. The fact that you have a chance of dying without knowing how much you have to defend yourself will change your playstyle, and affect it through the game.

I know that discussion is necessary, but I still feel that time and brainpower are better spent scumhunting than defending yourself. Look for people that were scummy during the night time and pressure them. The pressure on ilovejonn is based on metagame and that is pretty much worthless with the PMs and N0 start. This game is different and you have to be able to accept that. You can't use metagaming as an easy way out to actually analysing players.

Repeats what he said before, does the same thing, saying that the analysis is bad while saying that ilovejonn defending himself is not good play.

The bolded phrase especially bothers me. Why would you say that? This makes me suspicious that he's trying to reassure us that he's town and knows how to play.

Once youngminii calls him out for disregarding part of his analysis and telling people just to scumhunt instead of defend themselves, he gets defensive and apologetic.

On June 15 2011 16:13 sinani206 wrote:
youngminii, I acknowledged that you were scumhunting and that ilovejonn wasn't. Those were the two bases for my previous posts. I was simply urging you to go beyond metagaming, which you have done, and for ilovejonn to start actually scumhunting, since he seems to have enough time to defend himself. You have done what I urged you to do and that is good. ilovejonn, however, has not. He is, even after my posts, defending himself more and more and this is scummy behavior. I apologize, youngminii, for not explaining myself clearly. You are doing fine. It is ilovejonn who needs to up his game.

This post is basically just sucking up to Youngminii. By agreeing with a vocal pro town player, he's attempting to make himself seem more pro town himself. Also, he's defending his actions when nobody is accusing him.

Sinani is falsely contributing, attempting to blend in, and playing too safe.


On June 15 2011 16:13 sinani206 wrote:
It is ilovejonn who needs to up his game.

On June 16 2011 03:41 sinani206 wrote:
Step up your game.

no u
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 16 2011 02:07 GMT
#325
Activity level is disappointing, to say the least. Sinani, you posted a joke after all the analysis on you was posted. You've obviously been reading the thread, would you care to contribute?

To the lurkers:
Please post. Who do you think is scum? What do you think is a good course of action for the day? Give me a reason not to lynch you. The more townies lurk, the easier it is for lurking scum to hide. You're doing us a disservice by not posting.

@Mataza wtf is Hypocop?
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 16 2011 03:27 GMT
#327
...except that it won't, actually, because everybody with a brain will say "bad plan, no." The responses will all be the same, so it won't be a discussion as much as an excuse for lurking scum to look like their contributing.

God, is that a terrible strategy though. Playing into the scumteam's hands much?

RoL, you promised activity and contributions in 9 hours:
On June 15 2011 22:44 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I will be a sober, conscious, contributing member of XLII society in roughly 9 hours.

...13 hours ago. Explain.
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