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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 16 2011 03:56 GMT
#331
If we can't get a good discussion going, I agree completely that we should lynch a lurker. Would non contributory Zodiac list members be candidates for such a lynch?

On the subject of the current suspects: I think that ilovejonn is town, not sure about aidnai, and sinani is either scum or just playing very poorly, waiting to see his defense/actual contributions. I'm not confident at all that any of them is scum. If I had to pick one to lynch, it'd definitely be sinani.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 16 2011 15:38 GMT
#364
So, sinani isn't back, eh? ##Vote Sinani206 Reasons
He hasn't defended himself or started scumhunting, despite posting in the thread, even when prodded. It's time to turn up the heat. I personally think that ilovejonn is town, and aidnai is in the clear in my book too, for now.

That leaves sinani.

Oh, and to the dudes voting without posting: Major FoS. Seriously, why? Don't just vote to avoid the modkill, play the game, for christ's sake. grassgiraffe, could you tell us what you think of the game so far? Your only post has been the worst bandwagon I've ever seen.

Node is still unaccounted for, right?
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 16 2011 19:49 GMT
#388
Vote's coming off sinani. He's here, defense is sufficient for now. Stop bandwagoning him, please.

The pressure was good, but this bandwagon is bad. Kenpachi, why is BC the godfather?
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 17 2011 00:35 GMT
#483
On June 17 2011 05:47 syllogism wrote:
Lazorbear hasn't voted and made his only post on n0, so unless a miracle occurs he is getting mod killed anyway. He is a friend of varpulis and it sounded like he was going to mason him. Any insights you would like to share about him Varpulis?

He's a bored townie, from what he's been saying to me. He's not spending any time on the thread, i'm not sure he's even caught up. Count him useless, waste of a lynch though, if he even remembers to vote. Not sure why he joined the game, tbh.

Reading through hiro protagonist's posts now, verdict in a sec.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 17 2011 00:55 GMT
#487
hiro is scum. Some gems of his scum posting are:
On June 14 2011 13:10 hiro protagonist wrote:
EBWOP: I know its night time, and thats when we talk about blue roles, but lets not focus all of our energy into "what should blues do, and mansion me plz!!!" come day, lets focus on getting to know one another.

"No discussion guys, because discussion is bad." Pursuing scum objective by quelling discussion.
On June 16 2011 14:11 hiro protagonist wrote:
@OpZ: I agree that some of those players look scummy. I am curtain that Mafia has all ready posted in fact. but after going though the thread, I dont see that many scum tells. There is just not enough for me to go on right now. Lets keep up the pressure on those three.

FoS on Sandroba:
Maybe I am reading this wrong, but Sandroba is know for Sticking his neck out with plans like the one he said. He is also really good at wiggling out of suspicion. It would make sense for scum to bate out talk on night one that would give them info on players, so they can better aim there hits. His plan did just that. So Sandroba, may I ask why you would say this on night zero? Would it not be better to wait till day 1 to bring this up? are you still interested in applying you plan?

depending on his answers, I might vote for Sandroba. Otherwise, I think lynching one of the lurkers might be a good idea.

@Paragraph 1: "There are scum, but I don't know who they are." Blanket statement, filler.

@Paragraph 2: "Sandroba got people talking, so he's scummy. Also, i'll bring up that bad plan again for good measure." Derailment, poor FoS on an easy target. Also, he declines to actually take a stance on the current suspects.

On June 17 2011 06:28 hiro protagonist wrote:
As for the lynch targets, sinani, and ILJ still look suspicious to me. ILJ more so, because his slip into lurker mode. I want to see him scum hunt, cus right now the only contribution I see from him is defending himself. However, I wont vote for him because he is under the gun, We have ample opportunity to see if he slips up, or scum tells.

One person that is really flying under the radar is Impervious. So far all his post have had little substance, and smell sightly of scum.

As for the lurkers, One stands out and thats grassgiraffe. The others have yet to post much but grass last post SCREAMS out "I made my vote, and I'm out". I know, because that sounds exactly like some of the lurkers in SNMMII. They would simply come in once or twice during the day and say,"yep, I agree with so and so, vote: name here". I am 90% sure he is town, and 100% sure we dont need him. come prove me wrong grass.

##Vote: grassgiraffe

"ilovejonn and sinani are suspicious. So is Impervious. I'm voting grassgiraffe, who I'm 90% sure is town." Contradictory statement, big scumslip.

I'm currently of the opinion that both grassgiraffe and ilovejonn are town, and that lynching them would be a mistake.

##vote hiro protagonist
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 17 2011 02:01 GMT
#526
On June 17 2011 09:42 flamewheel wrote:
The lynch result may be slightly delayed... I have to attend to something.

...
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 17 2011 02:44 GMT
#553
Probably not, it's worth trying though. It's nice that the ultra inactives got modkilled so we don't have to deal with them.

I feel for ya, ilj.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 17 2011 15:40 GMT
#582
FudgeMunkey, why did you feel it was necessary to explain the mechanics of KP when nobody asked about them?

Why did you vote for sinani without posting in the thread?

Why was your only comment about the lynch targets just agreeing with Youngminii about ilovejonn being scummy?

I'd like an explanation, because right now scum bells are ringing in my head.


ROL, what the hell are you doing? Holding the town hostage by promising to post more if somebody vigi's Kenpachi?
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 18 2011 02:10 GMT
#652
goddammit. 2 blues, just our luck. Why shoot impervious though? He was 100% useless yesterday.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 18 2011 02:19 GMT
#654
Alright then. I think that it would be in the town's favor to consolidate our votes on 3 or so candidates, to force people to take a stance. Exactly who those targets should be I'm not sure yet, but hiro protagonist should definitely be among them.

I'm looking through Mig's posts now.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 18 2011 02:24 GMT
#656
Well, that was fast. Mig didn't post too much. He voted and pushed for sinani206, so if he was crumbing a check that returned red, it was about sinani.

Most likely he got a green result from a check on a townie though.

Anybody like to claim shooting impervious? By extension, if you got hit, claim it.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 18 2011 02:26 GMT
#657
And now, to voting. ##vote Fudgemunkey

Explain yourself.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 18 2011 15:03 GMT
#682
##unvote FudgeMunkey

Yay for pressure working. I expect the same level of effort and explanation of your actions for the rest of the game, or we'll have a problem again.

It worries me greatly that ROL is silent in PMs. Practically the only thing going for him in my book was the possibility that he was full of activity in PM land. ROL, step it up, big time.

##vote RebirthOfLeGenD
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 19 2011 01:12 GMT
#707
Vote stays on ROL until I see this in depth analysis that he's promised. Not sure that I like how quiet this bandwagon is. There's no opposition, no long arguments against, everybody seems content with bandwagoning and moving on.

ROL, I'd like to see the reasons for that town read on Hiro, because my vote would go to him if it wasn't on you.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 19 2011 07:49 GMT
#719
Dammit, I need sleep. ##unvote RebirthOfLeGenD

I've got a bit of a null read on syllogism at the moment, will take a closer look at his posting tomorrow, because I'm not quite thinking straight at the moment.

Town needs to be more active. Hopefully the thread will pick up when somebody other than RebirthOfLeGenD is leading the lynch.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 19 2011 07:51 GMT
#720
I've got a bit of a null read on syllogism at the moment, will take a closer look at his posting tomorrow, because I'm not quite thinking straight at the moment.

Oh god, I really do need sleep. Repeating the same phrase twice in the same sentence...
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 19 2011 16:42 GMT
#734
##vote Hiro Protagonist

define lurking in a quiet thread. It's not like killing the people with the least posts is going to get everybody posting like crazy. We make far better use of our time and lynch if we lynch to kill scum, not eliminate lurkers.

I don't buy the "he's town because his defense seems so genuine" argument. Words are words, anybody can say them. If mafia wants to look sincere, it's not that hard.

Hiro, I suggest that you bring another lynch target to the table, instead of wasting your time defending yourself.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 19 2011 19:28 GMT
#744
I'm still really unsure about syllogism. I've read through his posts 3 times, and I can't confidently say mafia or town. I'm leaving my vote on Hiro, at least for the time being.

I suggest that we consolidate our votes to three possible lynches, to avoid letting scum hide behind outlier votes.
  • syllogism
  • Hiro Protagonist
  • RebirthOfLeGenD

Is that list OK with people?

Everybody should pick one, and vote for them, providing reasons as to why they are picking that person over the other two. Protest voting a lurker or somebody in no danger of being lynched is not going to accomplish anything.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 19 2011 19:52 GMT
#753
On June 20 2011 04:38 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 04:28 Varpulis wrote:
I'm still really unsure about syllogism. I've read through his posts 3 times, and I can't confidently say mafia or town. I'm leaving my vote on Hiro, at least for the time being.

I suggest that we consolidate our votes to three possible lynches, to avoid letting scum hide behind outlier votes.
  • syllogism
  • Hiro Protagonist
  • RebirthOfLeGenD

Is that list OK with people?

Everybody should pick one, and vote for them, providing reasons as to why they are picking that person over the other two. Protest voting a lurker or somebody in no danger of being lynched is not going to accomplish anything.

There's no need to explicitly state "these 3 people", it'll become a battle between them anyway. I know I posted a bunch of stuff on RoL but I never actually voted for him because it was just pressure, which seems to have made its point ^^

I'm voting for Hiro because, what can I say, he just seems really scummy to me. He's been accused by two people with separate analyses (which have made perfect sense by the way, I don't know why I didn't pay more attention to them earlier) and lol at his responses He just keeps going around being scum.

I COULD give examples, but aidnai and sinani already have. My mind is undecided about Syllogism by the way.

The list is mostly a response to day 1's lynch. Let's take a look at the final tally, shall we?
On June 17 2011 12:16 flamewheel wrote:
Day 1 Vote Tally

Votes for ilovejonn (7): Mataza, syllogism, Shraft, DeMorcerf, aidnai, youngminii, hiro protagonist,

Votes for sinani206 (3): Mig, FudgeMunkey, grassgiraffe

Votes for Kenpachi (2): RebirthOfLeGenD, sinani206

Votes for Impervious (1): GGQ

Votes for grassgiraffe (5): BloodyC0bbler, LandenC, Jacinto, Node, Mr. Wiggles

Votes for hiro protagonist (6): sandroba, Varpulis, VisceraEyes, Kenpachi, ilovejonn, ~OpZ~,

Votes for syllogism (1): Scamp

Votes for Mr. Wiggles (1): Impervious

ilovejonn is to be lynched. Lazorbear is to be modkilled.

8 votes that not only do nothing, but also allow scum to hide. I'd rather everybody voted for one of the leading lynches, so that we know where everybody stands.

I'd even consider removing ROL from that list. He was only there because he has a bunch of votes, but the general consensus is that he's town.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 19 2011 20:04 GMT
#756
On June 20 2011 04:55 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 04:28 Varpulis wrote:
I'm still really unsure about syllogism. I've read through his posts 3 times, and I can't confidently say mafia or town. I'm leaving my vote on Hiro, at least for the time being.

I suggest that we consolidate our votes to three possible lynches, to avoid letting scum hide behind outlier votes.
  • syllogism
  • Hiro Protagonist
  • RebirthOfLeGenD

Is that list OK with people?

Everybody should pick one, and vote for them, providing reasons as to why they are picking that person over the other two. Protest voting a lurker or somebody in no danger of being lynched is not going to accomplish anything.

Seriously, why am I even on this list?

On June 20 2011 04:52 Varpulis wrote:
I'd even consider removing ROL from that list. He was only there because he has a bunch of votes, but the general consensus is that he's town.


For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
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