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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
May 29 2011 12:51 GMT
#82
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
May 30 2011 20:39 GMT
#266
are there any good reasons why roles should be claimed / say who we designed roles for / who designed for us which exist in this game which doesnt exist in other games? and why would your make yourself target if you are to say to someone you made their role :-p
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
May 30 2011 21:34 GMT
#380
How do we know its not a mean-ass killer-dog which goes crazy during nights and eats us all? ;-)
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
May 31 2011 10:59 GMT
#644
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I'm going to sleep soon, but before then, a handy list of players who aren't contributing, for later reference.
kurumi
kenpachi
Tackster
Sinani206
Torte De Lini
Barundar
stefftastiq


Well sir, I have been sleeping, EU timezones arent the same as US timezone - had to explain that in the noob mafiagame as well :-) - now im soon done with reading through the pages from 18 to 33 (which was written while i was a sleep) - and I will try to contribute with something :-)

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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
May 31 2011 11:20 GMT
#646
after reading through all yer posts i dont know I cant really see too many scummy reads based on whats beeing said or whos beeing targeted.

but

there are a few people who might be trying to "lead" people away from cooperating and gathering thoughts by doing disturbances.

reddff with his roleclaim - it was mentioned a few times, no claims during first day, and who created the role should not speak up either - he and others actually tried to get someone to say "hey this role is legit" - but noone did - the action however caused quite a few player to focus on this role, instead of hunting scum.

the dog - the dog is annoying they always are - but an excellent role to do what described above - he even made someone use his role on him (or did he?) which could a) be used for something else or it could b) be bullshit (as i see it).

palmar with his bro huntin - palmar is an excellent player, experienced that in the noob mafia game where he, i and a few inactive playeres were left at the end. whatever the role is designed to do, its something - but the function as for now he is making people fistpound and the fistpounders actually wonder what its going to do - if he is scum - this is obviously not the best way of finding out what it does :-p (unless the fistpounders also are scum).

as for the rest of the posts a lot of them seems to be focused around the actions of these three players, which is intresting in itself - they are either very successful in the plans of misleading town or it could ofcourse be just random

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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
May 31 2011 12:31 GMT
#665
I kind of got the same idea - Palmars approach to the game is very similar to how he played last game - which could of course be because Palmar is Palmar.

He could also have hatched another 'masterplan' early by trying to mislead us with fistpounds - and like last game targeting someone and being pretty unwilling to change (until the end of the game) ;-p

But I think this is way to thin to be really suspicious about someone - but I'm atleast even more suspicious to everyone than I used to be

I also see the importance to separate this game from earlier games - cause ofcourse the alignments wouldnt be the same etc - just funny that Mataza actually wrote something of the same I thought this game
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
May 31 2011 12:37 GMT
#667
I want to ask the town about voting early - its more than 24 hours until the voting ends - and a fair amount of people have already voted - since I've only got experience from one game earlier but there a lot of the players voted early - and then proceeded by changing their votes two or three times before the voting ends - I see the point of putting pressure on players to be active and / or make them cry for help.

But if the players voting early are all town - wouldnt the scum then see the voting patterns and could easely lynch the players they want AND even spread out their votes so they wont be too suspicious?

I see how this post might not have anything to do with whos scum and whos not - but I really want to hear a few opinions about pros/cons about voting early - because I can see how it really can call upon bandwagons and then the first players who "started the bandwagon" easly could change their votes to do someone else - ye, paranoiatalk
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
May 31 2011 22:10 GMT
#802
Here we go! - since theres been very little of it and Im quite a noob at it I found that I have to try to put a "read" on someone - after lurking up and down all the posts and crosschecking with the votings which have done I actually had very little feel about who seems like scum and whos not - Figuring out that I had to check out someone my target became tnkted (a little bit because someone wanted more info in the thread - and i felt it would be nice to "read" an experienced player) hoping someone will stop me and tell me all my flaus and wrongs after - and my next reading ofcourse will be perfect


I think this post contains almost all posts done by tnkted - Im also trying to emphasize what would be town-friendly behavior compared to scum - also I have taken note of what he says compared to what being done - its easy to shut down peoples analysis without really reasoning for it :-p

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I don't think amber can #fistpound, palmer... he can't write anything but dogtalk remember?

For now, lets all stop #fistpounding. We don't know what palmer's role is, and if it has something to do with the poundage he's been getting, lets keep it as low as we can get it.

Now, since we have a bunch of noobies in the game, I'll say something I always say to noobies: Be suspicious of people that appeal to their reputation. By this I mean that if you got bumatlarge telling you to drop your line of inquiry because he's the fucking batman, you should be more suspicious, not less.

Not that I expect that to happen this game, but its always good to mention.


Well, this post is what made me think - he say noob, I jump etc.
It also seems that all the "vets" or skilled players or whatever seems to be giving more thoughts about older games and how other games played out - I saw the busdriver beeing mentioned etc - he does actually from a pretty narrow point of view do appeal to your reputation as a bus driver ( I know it was a joke, but since this is kind of my test read - it should be included (maybe others have thougt?)

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This varp wagon is a bad lynch. Look, he came up with a plan... it might be a stupid plan but thats seriously more effort than anyone else has put forward.


Fair enough - he gives varp the "clear" but based on what? that he came out with a bad plan?


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Lol, ok, fair enough.

I think we need to set up a system of balances in this game. The chances of the mafia being unlucky enough to have given each others roles is very slim. Therefore I propose this:

If somebody claims in the thread, whoever gave that role needs to look at the claim carefully. If it lies or is an entirely different role, announce you gave that person the role in the thread. This way we can catch fakeclaims.

However, this won't be very effective later in the game because the people who gave the roles will be dead, and the possibility of fakeclaiming will be much less likely.

For example, I'm much more inclined to trust redff1's roleclaim if nobody claims today... since everybody will read it and the real person who gave Red's role will undoubtedly counterclaim.

tldr; if your person claims a fake role in thread, say so. otherwise stfu and let them be.


Fair enough - really nothing to say about it,

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deskscaress, don't bother arguing with jackal, its pointless. hes gonna do what he wants regardless of what anyone else says.

And yes, this is extremely spammy for one of our games. generally we're a bit calmer.

also, LOL at people pointing fingers at me. This is going to be a very different game... my role gives me the opportunity to try a new style of play. woo!

#vote coagulation, in solidarity.



This is where the point from hes earlier post should be emphasized

"lol at people pointing fingers at me" - why shouldnt people point fingers? really? nothing is done to make someone less suspicious of tnkted - as far as i know?

He also claims to have a role which allows him to play a new style (misleading information ?)

the vote for coagulation also could be anything - as far as I see it its a lead for the ones who are biting the bait - and does it seem like town-friendly?

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Now, a post with actual content: I don't think any of the people voting for varp right now, (kita, bum, palmar) are scummy. I think this is pretty usual behavior for kita and bum, and palmar seems to have been caught up in the wagon.


So far, we have the following data:

1. Amber is some sort of dog with a tracker/watcher role. He should be protected/bussed out of harms way tonight.
2. redff1 has a mason role. Also worth protecting.
3. Palmar has some sort of bro role. I think I have an idea what thats about, but I'ma stay mum until we know more.
4. I have some reason for not being afraid of getting killed. Hmm.......

As far as that goes, I think our best bet for a lynch today is................



On May 31 2011 05:54 sandroba wrote:
Alright every one seems to dislike the first part of my plan, but no one has commented on policy so far. The first part which we claim what player got our role is just to make policy easier.

Either way I say we policy lynch ANYONE who lies about their role. Town has very little reason to lie about their role while mafia has a lot of reasons.
What are you guys' opinions about this?



This is precicely the same plan I posted. The following people acted in a scummy way in response to it:


On May 31 2011 09:37 hiro protagonist wrote:
anyone who is not asking Amber a detect question gets my vote immediately! any other talk is just filler and does not help, SO DON'T DO IT. We have two suspects in the form of Vamp and tnkted. talk about that!

@kitaman: why do you suspect Vamp?



On May 31 2011 10:47 Mig wrote:
I am gonna toss my vote onto tnkted for now. He has been floating through the thread without contributing much, which is true for a lot of people right now, but then as soon as he is criticized by bum he throws out a 5 paragraph plan which isn't even really a plan so much as it's just common sense. Maybe it is just unfortunate timing for him but it looks a lot like someone over compensating and attempting to appear town after being pressured.




more coming after the break, i have to go move furniture.


Nothing came after the break, the break never ended - why type it, if its not happening? Ofcourse if its work related I see how it can be explained - but noone else really caught up on it.

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this. except the fact that I voted coagulation has nothing to do with it. The fact that I voted for someone who wasn't playing on the other hand....

You can replace 'coagulation' with Bill Murray if you want, it doesn't make a difference to my role.

No more clues!


ok - he voted for someone who wasnt playing - it might be a hint for others of a certain playstyle? maybe coagulation had a role in a game which he want people to remember - yet again i can only see this as misinformation, which in no sense is town friendly.


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On June 01 2011 01:11 Karshe wrote:
I would like to hear more from Deskscaress, having read through his posts this morning.

No clue what this means...

Show nested quote +


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Endorsing lying doesn't really sit well with me this early on.

Show nested quote +


Great! I look forward to your in-depth analysis!

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Great! I look forward to your long and information-packed analysis!

Here's your next post coming up:

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Wow, this is a fantastic contribution to our game. I'm sure glad you're so committed to in-depth and well thought out posts. Also, I find it amusing that later in the thread you berate me for mentioning the fast moving thread when you yourself have already complained about it.

The second half of the above post involved dissecting RedFF's blunder which had already been a major talking point of the town. But, wait... you just said you're so anti-parroting.

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Really? This is one of your famous non-spammy, quality posts?

And here is the gem that really caught my eye and encouraged me to go take a look through your posts.

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Totally disagree with this. You don't know if it's an investigative role, unless Palmar told you in mafia PMs. For all we know Palmar could have a bro-fist deathray and it powers up after having 5 fistbumps. In which case, mafia would be more than obliged to fistbump him. I don't feel like we'll ever be able to clear anyone that has fistbumped Palmar even after learning his alignment, and I feel like this is mafia trying to give themselves an easy defense later. "But but... Palmar fistbumped me and he was mafia."


This is a crazy weak analysis. You just went through and picked the posts of his that seemed most scummy.

However, this part I do agree with:

Totally disagree with this. You don't know if it's an investigative role, unless Palmar told you in mafia PMs. For all we know Palmar could have a bro-fist deathray and it powers up after having 5 fistbumps. In which case, mafia would be more than obliged to fistbump him. I don't feel like we'll ever be able to clear anyone that has fistbumped Palmar even after learning his alignment, and I feel like this is mafia trying to give themselves an easy defense later. "But but... Palmar fistbumped me and he was mafia."


We don't know what the fistpounds do. I think four is enough for palmar for now. Nobody else needs to fistpound. Palmar, stop asking for them.


This post is where he step down on someone elses analysis and calls it crazy weak, without even doing a single analysis of himself? afaik (in this game of course) maybe i triggered on him just calling it crazy weak without really saying what could be done better - ofcourse he just went through all the posts and picked out the scummy ones - because that in fact is what everyone else seems to be doing. The point being - desk were doing an analysis - he might have "hit the scums" - tnkted easly "disarms" this with calling it crazy weak - what up?

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Nah, hes just saying that he thinks I know something extra about the bro and that I must be the bus driver because im always the bus driver. He's just being funny.


caught in a joke - I have nothing to add :-p


ok - so this is my current read of tnkted - i have to admit I have very little causes of calling him scum or town - the contributions which is made is most adds/comments on what other people already has written, no real substance of his own - the information he has passed out is not leading in a town-favor, but I wont really say its scummy either.

Dont know if a post like this makes me more confused or what - Im absolutely not saying tnkted is scum - but im claming my uncertainty and hoping that others will contribute as well

@tnkted
hope you dont go mad on this :-p I need the practice
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
May 31 2011 23:28 GMT
#833
wow - I write the longest post I've ever written and I make it about tnkted and even ask for others opinion and noone even makes a small comment about it xD thats pretty useless by me!

well then - good night! going to sleep - hoping the subject are something else than zodiac lists and roleclaims when I wake up :-D

GN
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 01 2011 09:25 GMT
#974
OK tnkted - I might be overeager, I might be noob but I can clearly see the contradictions in your posts (yeah, I am reading them) - If you read my post you would also see that I actually asked about feedback from the older, pro players which it seems can do anything they want - you shut my post down with calling it overeager and bad analysis - may I ask, why was it bad?

Im including a few more quotes - it might clear up something to someone?


This is your last claim - you have super role - guaranteed place in the lategame! ok!

And everyone, take your votes off me, they're wasted. I'm guarrenteed (via role) to be in the lategame, so forgive me if I don't waste my time on bad analysis by overeager players on day 1. Votes are better spent somewhere else, and bullets are better spent on other players.


And here you do it again
As for the tunnelling thing: You clearly didn't read my post very closely. I am immune to pressure in this game. I don't give a flying fuck if you vote for me, its going to do nothing but waste your vote. I won't say anything else about my role, but I'm sure somebody will be able to figure it out.


But this sir, was your shoutout to the noobies -

Now, since we have a bunch of noobies in the game, I'll say something I always say to noobies: Be suspicious of people that appeal to their reputation. By this I mean that if you got bumatlarge telling you to drop your line of inquiry because he's the fucking batman, you should be more suspicious, not less.



Following your orders sir.

You might be scum, you might be town, you might be batman for all I know - but you made absolutely no effort to either say what I could have been doing better in my overagerposting - nor did you say what I did wrong - it was a plain and simple "shut down" of the post - which you have done several times with other posts as well - thats not town friendly at all.
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 01 2011 12:47 GMT
#995
my vote goes for tnkted as for the moment - might be changed later if he stands up and answers to the posts ive made - even tho i might be overeager and noob - still dont like the attitude in his posts - doesnt really seem town friendly

I also wonder about his powa to be guaranteed in the late game :-)

going to work, back in 6 hours to check how things are going

#Vote tnkted
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 01 2011 12:51 GMT
#997
Ive written two posts earlier on - I find him more scummy than quite a few others - he also chose to respond to my posts with just bad attitude and no constructive criticism or even try to 'clear' what i found scummy- doesnt seem like town, It might be his style of play, but as for now, thats my choice, yea..
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 01 2011 12:53 GMT
#999
i would also add that he is supposed to be one of the more experienced players (afaik) - which would say he is a strong player either scum of town - and hes certainly not using his experience in benefit for the town - he might change while im on work tho
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 01 2011 13:22 GMT
#1002
@Kurumi
I actually clear out why i picked him in the first post, I did it mainly because he was a vet - and he pointed out that others did bad analysis - and he hadnt done any of his own at that point.

There was also someone in another post who requested more 'read' on tnkted - and I was really hoping for him to point out what really was wrong with the analysis instead of just shutting it down, which he did!

I also wrote it at a point where quite a few people were discussing zodiac lists and roleclaiming - I wanted to bring new content to the thread hoping it would encourage others to do the same.

My original eye on him werent scummy at all - it did tho get scummy when he replied (which i included in the second post about him) - and yeah, I wanted discussion around the analysis - saying analysis is bad without reasoning doesnt help - another bad analysis will just show up - and yet again get shut down.

The lack of any kind of constructive criticism and / or defence others than "ive got great role who will ensure im in the end game" doesnt really make him less scummy as far as I see.

I picked him kind of random hoping for something good - didnt even think it would show up as scummy as it would - and hes attitude / replies sure as hell didnt make it more green in my eyes.

I might be new - but in this game I for now dont trust anyone :-p - What i would know if in what cases would it benefit him/town to actually behave that way ? If you want the town to do good analysis of people - dont just shut down people trying, say whats wrong and they might improve.

Scum would shut people down, Town would probably help.... Thats the way I see it.
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 01 2011 13:27 GMT
#1005
and my focus on vet/noob is clearly affected by all the posts of the zodiac lists etc - I just wanted to emphasize discussion - not just recycling of what everybody else is doing
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 01 2011 13:38 GMT
#1006
@Kurumi
I didnt want to derail the thread, I wanted to get more discussion around the players instead of lists/roleclaims - sorry about that!

I have no problems admitting that my analysis might be bad - Ive obviously have some lack of skills since at least some of it makes quite sense to me.

Yes - I have understood theres no coaching of any kind here - but doesnt it really benefit the town as a whole if someone points out WHY its a bad analysis instead of just "its shit" - which it of course could be.

about the scummiest person - were at day1 - the scummiest person could be anyone - there are 33 players from different countries - both languageskills and timezones are something which contributes to how players express themselves - my chosing of tnkted was done why i stated in the first post - he shut down another analysis - i thought i might do one of him - but it was obviously shit as well - i can live with that - the outfall of it all still looks scummy to me.

Im not afraid to change vote - even tho it might be scummy - I have no problem saying I might be wrong - im done at work an hour before the voting ends, so cya then

Hope this clearifies most of my points and yours of course.
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 01 2011 13:59 GMT
#1009
@Mataza
It wasnt me who said it was weak

Well - I could call my vote a pressure vote?

Im off.
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 01 2011 20:51 GMT
#1142
All button is gone!

@tnkted
thanks for replying - wish you replied like that at once tho - ive understood that its a bit diffrent in this game from what the SNMM2 game was both in posting norms and how we act.

Im still not sure about alignment tho :p

@Palmar
you have no other reasons for chaos being scum than your feeling?
What about ViscEyes - hes playing pretty similar to the noobgame - acting all crazy and shit - what do you think?
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 01 2011 21:06 GMT
#1183
At least we got to know who the joker is
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 02 2011 10:16 GMT
#1341
@Mataza @Palmar

lol, even I got that joke :-D
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 02 2011 22:00 GMT
#1479
On June 03 2011 06:54 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
You are Jules Winnfield. That's right, the worlds most Bad Ass Mother Fucker. You carry a gun that has 2 bullets, which you can use once a night to "lay your vengeance upon thee" (kill someone). You are also so intimidating that you can roleblock someone at night. You may only do 1 of the 2. Should someone bust out of the bathroom and start firing shot after shot at you, they will all miss (know matter how many people are trying to kill you), which you see as a "miracle"(unless you are under doc protection, then its not a miracle). Should a "miracle" happen, you decide to give up your life of murder and intimidation and become a vanilla guy with no special ability.

He can confirm



I can confirm that Wiggles killed desk

Im some sort of medium thing - getting PM'd a random action done during night...

I got this message:

Jules Winnfield shot deskscaress last night.

Someone could probably verify my role.
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 02 2011 22:00 GMT
#1481
and I forgot

##Fistpound Palmar

keep on pimpin bro
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 03 2011 08:39 GMT
#1597
Shouldnt it be safe to assume that the ones trying to lead attention away from Mr Wiggles are mafia? He showed up scum based on how someone made desks role - and I also got that medium message posted earlier - no town would "protect him" ?

right now it seems like both hiro and mataza both are trying to help wiggles live - probably because he got mafia kp?

@tnkted
may I ask what you vote for coagulation was for? :-D
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 03 2011 08:40 GMT
#1598
oh sorry - mataza wasnt supposed to be mentioned in that post !
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 04 2011 13:04 GMT
#1707
@Cthsazsa

the lack of town discussion is probably related to that Wiggles kinda "came out" scum - thats atleast what I feel at the moment

+ looking forward to the rest of the bigass posts
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 05 2011 20:12 GMT
#1920
@barundar

Yeah, sorry, been weekending, my role is passive so its not much I can do at night else than trying to keep up with all the fuzz going on
,
@Cthsazsa

I did claim - and nobody actually confirmed it, which makes me think that the one who created my role probably is scum - since i guess a townie would do that to either falsify or confirm my role. A scum on the other hand could make me look bad by leaving my role to be uncertain about.

my role is passive tho - i cant target anyone, nor actually do anything... I would also really like to know what the rolecreater wanted out of this role - especially since i cant even target anyone!

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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 05 2011 21:56 GMT
#1966
someone clearly has bad aim!
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 06 2011 11:00 GMT
#2107
@Cthsazsa
the problem is that bum is 100% certain, Palmar is not - but if Palmar is scum then he might be linked to tnkted - which confirmed his lie when he first claimed his role.

The question is how could tnkted be sure that Palmar was town - if they both were, when he first confirmed his lie about how the role was with the fistpounds and everything. - If Palmar lied and were scum wouldn tnkted call this lie? I dont really see a point of confirming Palmars lie about the role without knowing for certain that they were playing on the same team?

@Mataza
I can confirm your role :-p sorry for the lack of imagination when making it - i honesly had no idea of what level the roles were made in this game, atleast now when i see what kind of roles somebody got, saw you whined abit about it earlier, but its seems you have found a way to use it! wisely
gl with the bomb :o

Would also be nice to get a list of who are still in the game, after tnkted voted for coagulation - i even think i saw one post from him in this thread - is that right? :p i dont think noone ever cleared about tnkteds vote on someone not in the game - is that just ok? :p

@Rean
You menation a scummy circle - whos in it, why is it scummy? help town!
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 06 2011 11:45 GMT
#2110
@Palmar
but isnt that in a point of view that you are town - if you put the same thoughts and say you are scum, tnkteds actions makes a lot of sense, doesnt it? except from maybe confirming the real role - but at that point you already were "town" so you guys are "cleared"

I know how you and hiro played me (and the inactives) in snmm2 - its starting to look like the same play! - and thats kind of creepy

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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 06 2011 11:48 GMT
#2111
@Mataza
Who is the amnesiac leader? and who are the remaining members - doesnt compute with the smileys?
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 06 2011 12:04 GMT
#2115
@MiG
Sorry, didnt see your question earlier !

This night i got a message that a post restriction imposting amnesiac recruited mataza, rean, bum and kitaman to a mason circle for 72 hours - which includes heavy use of smileys

Rean claimed that this circle was "scummy" thats why I asked mataza earlier - he then did not mention kitaman and who the leader is afaik - but i now see that kitaman ofcourse is dead

he did for some reason include chaos which was not in the ring (maybe he was earlier) - as he wasnt the "restriction imposting amnesiac" - it might be the dog?


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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 06 2011 12:05 GMT
#2116
@Mataza
im a medium - i know random shit :p
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 06 2011 12:25 GMT
#2118
@Mataza
oh shiet! - mixed up jackal and chaos - my bad! - you included jackal tho ;-p
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 06 2011 12:58 GMT
#2121
@GMarshal
Bums role did accidently get spoiled when batman got killed - the post daypost said so :< but hes name got removed afterwards...
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 06 2011 20:54 GMT
#2244
@GMarshal
Im voting for bum because i saw his his role(joker) WITH NAME (bumatlarge) get spoiled, before it got removed, when he killed sinani? that night - joker etc - thats my main reason - if there are very good reasons that someone else SURELY is scum - i have no problems switching tho, but bum is scum fo sho.
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 06 2011 21:10 GMT
#2247
Are there any updated list of which players are in this game ?
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 06 2011 22:35 GMT
#2272
Im trying to do what i can - i cant target anyone with my role - and ive shared all the info ive gotten of my role.

ive voted for the one person im 100% sure of being scum - which is bum.

cant say thats scummy bro'

To me it seems like a lot of the "real decisions" are made somewhere else than in this thread - since most of the discussion here seems to be back and forth about who killed who - done is done, isnt it?

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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 06 2011 22:45 GMT
#2274
@Pandain
ok - you enter the game, post some pictures about killing stuff.

and then you say the dog is bad - and tell him/her to kill me - wtf man!

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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 06 2011 22:49 GMT
#2278
Yeah, thats was my bad - was when viscera bombed batman - and jokers role was in batmans description (including name) thats why i had the questionmark!
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 06 2011 22:55 GMT
#2280
@Karshe
yeah, thats what i meant to type - that post was typed in a hurry while i was reading through the thread, just to remember GMarshals question for me.

the point is that the post told us that bum was the joker. the sinani thing was my bad memory + a bit lazyness to not go all the way back to the nightpost at that time...

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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 06 2011 23:57 GMT
#2285
yeah, torte, tnkted or Pandain - hes just posting pictures anyways and wants to kill me xD - but doesnt really have a reason for it else than him posting country restriced shitty kid-metal youtube videos in the voting thread :-)
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 07 2011 21:15 GMT
#2639
great job guys! like wtf - you have one 100% certain scum - and people vote for someone as uncertain as palmar - and he shows up as town - yeah, act surpriced - all the voters should really say something smart right now

people shouting at people calling their thoughts bad - and most people just bandwagon anyways :[

is it any town left now?
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 08 2011 20:31 GMT
#2696
rest of town is probably dead by night end?
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 08 2011 21:55 GMT
#2774
I KNOW

The joker planted a gas cannister ong MIG with 1 day timer

The joker attemted to kill Rean

BUM IS SCUM 4 SHO


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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 08 2011 22:03 GMT
#2778
yeah, wb palmar!

#Fistpound Palmar
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 08 2011 22:13 GMT
#2783
@Mig

Yeah - you got gas man
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 08 2011 22:15 GMT
#2786
Mig:
I got that message one hour ago, you got probably got 23 hours left until something happends with the gas... thats my guess
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 08 2011 22:16 GMT
#2787
@Karshe
Wait 23 hours - say that again.
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 08 2011 22:21 GMT
#2794
@Rean

First off all - I am the medium :-D

second - that was all the info I got - Joker tried to kill Rean, Joker put gas canister on Mig

nobody has yet claimed my role as medium, so im pretty sure one of the scum has made it, i would guess to lower my credibility? or maybe the one who made the role just left.

anyways - my last two infos were correct, you shouldnt have no reason to doubt on this.

and we know from before that joker is bum.
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 10 2011 11:39 GMT
#2919
nice, joker and scum dead <3
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 11 2011 09:27 GMT
#2987
Yeah, I got some information - the crazy cat lady has chosen GMarshal


this might be interesting? :-p
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 11 2011 16:59 GMT
#3010
##Fistpound: Palmar

Got tons of reading to do :p a few pages behind... sorry
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 11 2011 17:41 GMT
#3015
Jackal
Im sorry, but nr 8 is wrong :-p
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 13 2011 23:20 GMT
#3228
##Fistpound Palmar

ait, got some supadupa news as well - sorry im kinda doing nothing, busy reallife going on :-)

my info this day is that The Psychic has votechecked, and returned 2 mafia :-p useful role indeed
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 14 2011 12:23 GMT
#3261
Why would you kill townies just to check? Im green - and also been a bit lazy, im IN Gm's cicrle - when i flip green he would just kill another townie, wont he?
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 14 2011 12:30 GMT
#3263
On June 14 2011 06:18 Rean wrote:
GMarshal
Palmar
Rean
DropBear
stefftastiq
Amber[LighT]

This is the last list of people that voted for the Jackal lynch. It has 2 mafia on it. For me, it's between DropBear/stefftastiq/Amber[LighT]. And with Amber also being on the previous list....he seems like a much better option to me.


Palmar is confirmed green, Rean is probably too - since it seems to by your posting, Im green -
I can guarantee you the reds are some combination of Amber, dropbear and GMarshal.

I got a readingthingy which i posted earlier that "The Crazy Cat Lady had chosen GMarshal" did anyone ever consider that Amber was a catlady? and chose GMarshal for some reason? (I havent read like the 5 last pages of posting - maybe someone already noticed this)

I guess killing me would ease me of my reading - but it wont win the game for town.
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 14 2011 20:59 GMT
#3329
Steff how much have you and GM been pming each other since he added you to his pm circle? Have you guys had a lot of pro-town discussion? Has he given a reason for inducting you? Look at the timestamp for this post and tell me how much you guys have been making use of your pm circle
.

We havent made any use of the circle - I just said it probably wouldnt be to nice to put me in the circle to kill a townie. Basicly because I logged on, saw I had a new Pm about been put in a circle, and the latest post in the gamethread was for him to sacrifice me!



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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 15 2011 07:21 GMT
#3344
Dropbear: desperate? :-)

If you see my actions tho - they are all town.

I'm in the middle of doing shit tons of stuff IRL - so I've been busy - I've stated that a few times.
Just the fact that you suddenly are targeting me (the only things I've done is contributing with a few posts and confirming other players actions through my medium reads) seems like you just try to get the attention of yourself.

My vote for you is mainly based on Palmars vote (I know for sure he is town) - and the last ten or so pages of posting.

I'm also in GM's circle - if he truly believes im scum he can just kill me.
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 15 2011 07:23 GMT
#3345
@ Cthsazsa
I asked GM about the same thing - even he didnt know it! And I was just curious.
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 15 2011 08:03 GMT
#3348
First of all - people are voting for Dropbear - but not everyone has voted yet (its not like EVERYBODY is on you yet drop - altho you seem to claim so...)

I voted for bum because that was the only one I knew for sure was scum.

But yes, I'll agree that I've been slacking.

Your post is almost right - except for the last line, its missing an W and a H

Stefftastiq WISH he was mafia - because then the god damn role would be useful. Now I'm just used to confirm what someone else claims - altho I have yet to falsify a lie. As a scum I could at least try to manipulate shit.
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 15 2011 08:05 GMT
#3349
falsify a lie? lol - reveal a lie or something
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 15 2011 08:07 GMT
#3350
In addition you put "words in my mouth" - you say I vote because Palmar says so - I voted because Palmar is the only one I for sure know is town, then its at least two town votes.

He didnt say so, I did.
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 15 2011 20:08 GMT
#3375
@redFF
How? You have to provide reasoning. Read through my damn posts from day 1 and tell me I'm scum ffs, I'm one of the most obvious townies in this game. GM is either Mafia or an idiot, but he has to die because he is on the list, and is scummier than Steff and Amber. Do you have reason to believe there is a miller? Please give me reasoning for killing me apart from GM busing Dropbear.


Im not going to try to defend anyone or something like that - but isnt the argument a bit weak, I mean shoot someone because they are on the list - there are obviously a pretty even amount of townies and scum now, isnt it kinda risky just shooting random? (even tho 2 out of 5 or 6 on "the list" are scum)

Also saw the suggestion with GM killing me and GM beeing shot - if we both were to show up town, thats kinda critical to townplay... ? isnt it?
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 15 2011 21:41 GMT
#3380
The votes are counted, just no post :<
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 15 2011 22:51 GMT
#3416
On June 16 2011 07:35 Palmar wrote:
Also, Cthazha has two pretty town looking actions on his record.

a) he claimed creating wiggles's role. if this is true he's almost definitely not mafia.

b) he planted a bomb on hiro, information that then got leaked through stefftastiq. Remember, this is when everyone agreed that hiro was likely scum.


no, I've said nothing about bombs! afaik - atleast I have no PM's about it

The Joker has planted a gas cannister on Mig with a 1 day timer. The Joker has attempted to kill Rean. (no bomb)

and then I got

The Crazy Cat Lady has chosen GMarshal.




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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 17 2011 01:26 GMT
#3523
Nice guys, put your finger on me, thats cool. (its thursday and 'im drunk)

I've been busy, I'm currently moving, + trying to finish up my masters thesis + got shit to do, and I honestly regret signing up to this game, cause it basicly ruined my minimafia in addition to take up far to much of my spare time (dont really know if this is a good response tho)

My message for town: dont waste a lynch on me, make either Palmar kill me or GM (if he has more knives).

I'm really just sorry for being in this game, I tried to contribute, but i honesly didnt have time.

My role is shitty which didnt really give me much more joy to play this game - and the sight of other peoples roles didnt really make it better, super roles vs basicly doing nothing.

a) TOWN: dont get fucked

b) The faithfull dog protected Rean

c) I pointed the fingers at you because I was suspicious. Yes I'm lurking - and I dont' have time to write up any big posts.





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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 17 2011 01:29 GMT
#3524
and

#Fistpound Palmar

go bro, only town i trust.
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 17 2011 02:01 GMT
#3525
On June 17 2011 09:10 Cthsazsa wrote:
Woops! EBWOP: I forgot to add this little girly in my main post.


Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 21:30 stefftastiq wrote:
On June 14 2011 06:18 Rean wrote:
GMarshal
Palmar
Rean
DropBear
stefftastiq
Amber[LighT]

This is the last list of people that voted for the Jackal lynch. It has 2 mafia on it. For me, it's between DropBear/stefftastiq/Amber[LighT]. And with Amber also being on the previous list....he seems like a much better option to me.


Palmar is confirmed green, Rean is probably too - since it seems to by your posting, Im green -
I can guarantee you the reds are some combination of Amber, dropbear and GMarshal.

I got a readingthingy which i posted earlier that "The Crazy Cat Lady had chosen GMarshal" did anyone ever consider that Amber was a catlady? and chose GMarshal for some reason? (I havent read like the 5 last pages of posting - maybe someone already noticed this)

I guess killing me would ease me of my reading - but it wont win the game for town.



He gives us three FoS. At most the recommended number of people you should FoS is 2.
It's weird, how steff goes to call out these 3 people as scum, but he doesn't do jack shit about it. He doesn't suggest we lynch one of them. He doesn't even suggest we shoot one of them.
It's fucking amazing how easily his posts slip right by us and we dont even notice!



This was based entirely on the lists previously posted.
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 18 2011 01:04 GMT
#3566
me too
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 18 2011 01:10 GMT
#3567
Cant believe you waste your lynch on me tho, wont give you any information except show I'm town

Good night!
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 18 2011 20:37 GMT
#3588
##Fistpound Palmar

I agree, there were some bm kinda ruins the fun!

I warn you town: you are beeing fooled to lynch me

GG anyways!
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 18 2011 21:05 GMT
#3591
GG
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