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@Amber unless you have something meaninful to bark at keep your quoting spam to a minimum pls. | ||
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Second thing I want to talk about is that doubting any role claims at this point is not only useless, it's also dumb. When day 2 comes along anyone who has lied about their roles will be in a lot of trouble, so no one would be idiot enough to lie about their roles. That says nothing about aligment, but it's useless to discuss roles at this point, specially since those roles have provided us 0 info so far. Now for what's important, I'll be casting my vote today on redFF. On May 31 2011 06:04 redFF wrote: I don't actually see a point in the game where my role can be useful... Ok so the guy gets a mason role and can't think of how that can be useful. Strange that I can think of many ways that role is immensely useful, but then again that's because I'm town. Even if it was useless, as town you wouldn't say that, you would try to lure a shot to yourself to protect more usefull roles. From a mafia perspective this post makes a lot of sense, as it explains how you did not get shot in the following nights. On May 31 2011 08:13 redFF wrote: I'm happy people started to call out Varpulis, especially experienced players, as his posting doesn't sit too well with me. He made a valid point and you told him to come at you? I don't see why a town player would do this. No he doesn't want you to stop posting. He wants you to stop posting bad, pointless stuff. This is weird, I'm not so sure we can be sure mafia has plenty of kp. Also saying you wouldn't be surprised if you saw some 3rd party roles when the OP says they are a distinct possibility is kind of weird and unnecessary. I know this was said jokingly but i think GM might have a point. I don't think I would make a joke like that as town. Could be nothing i guess. This is a terrible fluff post. He's glad people are calling out varpulis (??), he parrots some weak points people made and his conclusion is it could be nothing. Great. On May 31 2011 08:40 redFF wrote: Ok, I'm gonna claim. I'm an interrogator. What is that? I can vote somebody to be lynched, and I will be allowed to exchange pm's with the person I voted for the rest of the day. I'm going to vote Amber so I can talk to him and get to the bottom of this whole situation. I don't see anybody else who i feel like pm'ing today to be perfectly honest. My role is not that powerful, I am not a powerful player. Me claiming can only be good for town. Scum won't hit me(I think) because my role is far less powerful than some of the other roles currently in play. They also have far better/more experienced people to hit than me. If anyone has a problem with my claim please say so, but i feel like this is the correct decision to make at this stage. Now this claim is the most telling post for me. Miraculosly he finds a use for his useless role! But he feels the need to claim it in thread because casting a random vote on Amber would be "too suspicious". He also explains how he won't be getting shot by the mafia in the future. That makes absolutely no sense as town because he just gimped the potencial for his role to be helpful by revealing it. Also town has no need to fear being suspicious and the only thing his claim does is dodging suspicion from voting Amber. He claimed before he had any useful info for crist's sake, he did not even use his power before he claimed. From a mafia perspective this makes a lot of sense for the same reasons it doesn't make any sense as town. He's trying to avoid suspicion and feels inherently guilty, so he feels the need to explain his actions before he's even a small dot on anyone's radar. ##Vote: redFF | ||
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On June 01 2011 06:12 deskscaress wrote: dude i was this close to PMing him asking him to stop typing it that way XD Whoa, what? How can you PM kurumi deskscaress? | ||
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Can you please provide me with an example? | ||
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My plan does not help Mafia. But lets assume it did. Do you see ANYONE suporting or pushing my plan? So my game plan as mafia was to push a plan that suposedly helped mafia and have none of my team suport it? That would be pretty idiotic wouldn't it? | ||
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On June 01 2011 07:00 deskscaress wrote: or how about this Townie A made a really shitty role for Mafia X Townie B made a really good role for Mafia Y everyone claims. Mafia Y uses his role to get Mafia X lynched. no one lied so no one looks suspicious, we clear Mafia Y and we lose. claiming anything is just so dumb in wide open situations like this knowledge is power and we should work on a need-to-know basis, especially without PMs So the mafia would bus his teammate to buy town cred. Good deal to me. Town cred is overrated and he will have to continue playing pro town for the rest of the game to avoid suspicion. He will also have to explain not being killed at night. Plenty of opportunities to catch this mafia down the line and you got one free scum lynch in the deal. | ||
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I already posted my analysis on redFF and I also think trackster is scum aswell. | ||
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On June 01 2011 06:40 redFF wrote: Sandroba i wasn't sure how useful my role was because i would have to vote the person I wanted to talk to. I figured the most use I could be day 1 was talking to our canine companion, and I didn't want the thread filling up with pages discussing if my vote was scummy and then filling up later on with people asking me to change my vote. My role is one that needs me to do things publicly and the less pointless talk on a townie with a "suspicious" voting pattern the better. I tried to use my role to allow Amber to talk to the thread and voice his opinions. I don't see that as being a scummy motive...I also stand by the fact that mafia will be trying to kill better players and better roles than me tonight. Sure but why did you feel the need to claim in thread before even using your power? Couldn't you have just said "I think this discussing is leading us nowhere and I sugest we start RVS ##vote Amber". Done. | ||
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On June 01 2011 07:18 Mataza wrote: Well I can certainly understand Sandroba´s way of thinking, trading townies 1:1 for mafs is indeed a good deal. And here is the BUT: Giving info about who you picked for is painting targets on people and no one knows on whom the targets are. They can easily interrupt confirmation chains by killing every second person along a string. They kill x people and discredit x people while they do it. Additionally they know their own roles as the ones they´ve picked for others they gain a HUGE knowledge advantage. What we should instead do is make known the number of killing and misinformation capable roles. That´s the bad stuff. Especially the Killing Power. Either the scum team is stacked with those or there are mechanics we don´t know anything about yet. I talked about that before. Because without killing power, misinformation, or alternate kill mechanics, this game is practically impossible for mafia to win. The thing is claim whatever role doesn't confirm shit about aligment. If the guys claim comes with info that lead us to mafia I'm happy with giving him townie points without anyone to confirm his role. That's all there is to it. Any random claims confirmed or not doesn't mean shit to me. | ||
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On June 01 2011 07:35 Mataza wrote: tl;du: Your plan prevents something from happening that won´t happen unless your plan was done already. You say w/out your plan mafia can claim any role they want. But they can´t unless they somehow find out who created their roles. And right now your plan reveals exactly that. I didn't say that. If you can't read what I post I see no point continuing arguing with you. My plan is to prevent idiot claims from everyone as that only helps mafia. That's all there is to it. | ||
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On June 01 2011 07:38 redFF wrote: Oh and Amber's Zodiac list Wiggles GM Sandroba kita bum visceraeyes BC Meapak Dropbear Jackal Cesar Milan at your service :D hmmm, if Amber confirms this list I'm willing to switch my vote to trackster. Trackster last post was incredibly terrible, long, and with 0 content and I think you have the chance to prove your usefulness down the line. | ||
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On June 01 2011 07:38 GMarshal wrote: We are done discussing a plan that will not be put into place. Both sides have been pretty clearly laid out. Instead answer these questions. 1.) If you were a vigilante who would you shoot tonight 2.) if you were a kingmaker who would you make king tomorrow 3.) what is your favorite colour 4.) Of all the players with more than ten posts in the game at the moment, which seem the scummiest? I'll bite. 1) hmm if I HAD to shoot tonight it would be tortedelini because he's either useless or mafia. I wouldn't want to be stuck in a mafia xxxix sinani situation in the late game. 2) dropbear, despite not agreeing with some of his analysis I have a strong town read on him 3) don't have one 4) I'm torn between trackster and redFF. I'm trying to see redFF's posts from a town perspective, but I'm finding it hard to do. His last post with Amber's list has me second guessing myself, because he could have kept quiet about it if he chose to. @redFF how does that exchange between you and Amber happened exactly? He can say players names on PM? You assumed that list was his zodiac list or did he specifically tell you? | ||
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