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On June 07 2011 19:06 Palmar wrote:I'm not. and yes, I'm going to keep defending myself until I actually get lynched. I may have failed my role catastrophically, but I will try to leave as much information behind as I can, and that information comes from discussion. I'm glad the people give the mafia no credit at all this game, but it might be dangerous in the long run for this town. Do you think Bumatlarge, or whatever veteran player is on the mafia team told me to shoot the mole to gain town credit, and then promptly lose it all by killing Chaos13 and CLAIMING it? The mafia would know that their kill didn't go through. They know they didn't hit meapak, and they know they didn't hit kitaman. So now the advice I get from my oh so clever mafia team is "right, we have one kill that hasn't been claimed, we wasted our mole buying town credit for Palmar, so Palmar, go forth and claim it so we can instantly lose whatever credit you have".
Trust me, if I was mafia my actions would be a lot more sensible than that.
Give me one effing reason to trust you. Yeah, lets blindly trust a lying scumbag on blind faith especially after his latest lie was a secure a KP. I am dead-on confident that you are lying again.
@rest of town
I am seeing Torte being scum popping up over and over again and I yet fail to see a solid case against him (apart from him RB'ing GM since he doesn't have control on his abilities). Please enlighten me and convince me that he is sure-shot scum which multiple people are saying here.
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On June 07 2011 20:13 Eternalmisfit wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 19:06 Palmar wrote:I'm not. and yes, I'm going to keep defending myself until I actually get lynched. I may have failed my role catastrophically, but I will try to leave as much information behind as I can, and that information comes from discussion. I'm glad the people give the mafia no credit at all this game, but it might be dangerous in the long run for this town. Do you think Bumatlarge, or whatever veteran player is on the mafia team told me to shoot the mole to gain town credit, and then promptly lose it all by killing Chaos13 and CLAIMING it? The mafia would know that their kill didn't go through. They know they didn't hit meapak, and they know they didn't hit kitaman. So now the advice I get from my oh so clever mafia team is "right, we have one kill that hasn't been claimed, we wasted our mole buying town credit for Palmar, so Palmar, go forth and claim it so we can instantly lose whatever credit you have".
Trust me, if I was mafia my actions would be a lot more sensible than that. Give me one effing reason to trust you. Yeah, lets blindly trust a lying scumbag on blind faith especially after his latest lie was a secure a KP. I am dead-on confident that you are lying again. @rest of townI am seeing Torte being scum popping up over and over again and I yet fail to see a solid case against him (apart from him RB'ing GM since he doesn't have control on his abilities). Please enlighten me and convince me that he is sure-shot scum which multiple people are saying here.
Well, That wasn't a lie, I'm not part of the mafia and the actions I took still don't make sense as mafia.
Now read it again after I claimed 
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On June 07 2011 20:14 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 20:13 Eternalmisfit wrote:On June 07 2011 19:06 Palmar wrote:I'm not. and yes, I'm going to keep defending myself until I actually get lynched. I may have failed my role catastrophically, but I will try to leave as much information behind as I can, and that information comes from discussion. I'm glad the people give the mafia no credit at all this game, but it might be dangerous in the long run for this town. Do you think Bumatlarge, or whatever veteran player is on the mafia team told me to shoot the mole to gain town credit, and then promptly lose it all by killing Chaos13 and CLAIMING it? The mafia would know that their kill didn't go through. They know they didn't hit meapak, and they know they didn't hit kitaman. So now the advice I get from my oh so clever mafia team is "right, we have one kill that hasn't been claimed, we wasted our mole buying town credit for Palmar, so Palmar, go forth and claim it so we can instantly lose whatever credit you have".
Trust me, if I was mafia my actions would be a lot more sensible than that. Give me one effing reason to trust you. Yeah, lets blindly trust a lying scumbag on blind faith especially after his latest lie was a secure a KP. I am dead-on confident that you are lying again. @rest of townI am seeing Torte being scum popping up over and over again and I yet fail to see a solid case against him (apart from him RB'ing GM since he doesn't have control on his abilities). Please enlighten me and convince me that he is sure-shot scum which multiple people are saying here. Well, That wasn't a lie, I'm not part of the mafia and the actions I took still don't make sense as mafia. Now read it again after I claimed
I will just say that I hope that the town is not dumb enough to believe your claim and let you live after you have lied once again.
Bum might be scum but in that case he doesn't have KP. In case he is SK, he is likely to have lost his powers since he hasn't killed anyone yet. I would rather kill a confirmed anti-town like you than let a loose cannon-ball like you alive. I hope that the rest of the town are capable enough to see this.
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looks like Eternalmisfit is mafia town 
He really wants to save a scumbag brother!
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Oh right, there are three assassins in the game.
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Also, just because Palmar claimed 3rd party doesn't make him one either. For all I know,he might still be scum. And one who is confirmed killing two townies and definitely has a KP tonight.
In the light of new events, I highly recommend that we lynch Palmar. GM can induce bum in his circle and sacrifice him tonight. Kurumi is harmless for now since he has used up his bullets and might die from the redirected KP as well.
It is more urgent to kill Palmar in the day since he has a confirmed KP and is now confirmed anti-town.
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On June 07 2011 20:25 Eternalmisfit wrote:
Also, just because Palmar claimed 3rd party doesn't make him one either. For all I know,he might still be scum. And one who is confirmed killing two townies and definitely has a KP tonight.
In the light of new events, I highly recommend that we lynch Palmar. GM can induce bum in his circle and sacrifice him tonight. Kurumi is harmless for now since he has used up his bullets and might die from the redirected KP as well.
It is more urgent to kill Palmar in the day since he has a confirmed KP and is now confirmed anti-town.
As I understand it GM can either introduce someone new to the circle, or sacrifice someone, not both.
As the trap mage thing should automatically go for Kurumi tonight, wouldn't that mean he can't kill Bum?
Stop trying to save your buddy bro
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also, I very much doubt there being 5 third party roles.
I can confirm there being 3 assassins, and both Kurumi and Bum claimed SK. I have a feeling this looks like one of them is lying.
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We just don´t give him fistpounds or protection. The assassins will kill him. At least they should.
Do you swear Ambers role cannot be used for evil? For all you know, Amber could be an Assassin too
Also I´m jealous you live 24 hours longer than me.
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Also Eternalmisfit, wtf 
Palmar made a claim that guarantees him to die tonight. Only the mafia would save him now, so he wastes a lynch for town. Come one, think.
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On June 07 2011 20:35 Mataza wrote:Also Eternalmisfit, wtf Palmar made a claim that guarantees him to die tonight. Only the mafia would save him now, so he wastes a lynch for town. Come one, think.
He made a claim which can be fake and lets him live another night while he still has a KP at hand. If you want to see what someone with a confirmed KP and being 3rd-party can do, just look back at Kurumi's last night's action. Why do you believe he will the use the KP for the good of the town when he has been lying all through the game?
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Mataza, it can be used for evil. But it's more powerful for the town. I think it's best if it's kept secret. If you want to be outed and confirmed Amber, just wiggle your tail at my post.
Also, you should probably give me 4 fistpounds at least, that way both the assassins have to stack on me to get me killed. Feel free to troll them and give me more, basically leaving them neutered and their numbers still count amongst town.
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On June 07 2011 20:37 Eternalmisfit wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 20:35 Mataza wrote:Also Eternalmisfit, wtf Palmar made a claim that guarantees him to die tonight. Only the mafia would save him now, so he wastes a lynch for town. Come one, think. He made a claim which can be fake and lets him live another night while he still has a KP at hand. If you want to see what someone with a confirmed KP and being 3rd-party can do, just look back at Kurumi's last night's action. Why do you believe he will the use the KP for the good of the town when he has been lying all through the game?
Want me to shoot this guy instead town?
Or should I stick with my list:
Torte De Lini
Kurumi
Bumatlarge
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oh sweet, hadn't thought of this if we have another watcher type role.
you can play "spot the assassin" by checking who visits me tonight.
make sure I get 4 fistpounds, I think I have 3 at the moment. We want _both_ assassin hits to go to me.
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lol this is why LAL is a proven policy. We have no way of knowing if there is assassins in the game or if he is pulling numbers out his ass. Now we are banking on a faction we don't know exist to kill him. What are we going to do when he survives the night and hand us another lie?
Stop the BS.
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On June 07 2011 20:57 Barundar wrote:
lol this is why LAL is a proven policy. We have no way of knowing if there is assassins in the game or if he is pulling numbers out his ass. Now we are banking on a faction we don't know exist to kill him. What are we going to do when he survives the night and hand us another lie?
Stop the BS.
If I survive, I will offer you a random head from my list, another lie, and perchance some beer, but you'd have to come out to Iceland.
Let's just see what Bum flips shall we, then you can decide my allegiances!
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Oh and by the way town.
When I die, you should really take a look at the people who are voting for me, it's almost guaranteed there are some, if not many, mafia players in there.
No one with a sane mind pushes a claimed assassin that has actions completely inconsistent with mafia goals.
The people pushing my lynch are people wanting to save Bumatlarge
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On June 07 2011 20:37 Palmar wrote:
Mataza, it can be used for evil. But it's more powerful for the town. I think it's best if it's kept secret. If you want to be outed and confirmed Amber, just wiggle your tail at my post.
Also, you should probably give me 4 fistpounds at least, that way both the assassins have to stack on me to get me killed. Feel free to troll them and give me more, basically leaving them neutered and their numbers still count amongst town.
NO
:plzdie
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All I can hear is "please don't kill my scumbro".
huurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Don't fistpound me, I have no extra lives and will be killed tonight.
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