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So, Palmar lied about his role?
I am now much more concerned about him being scum, I didn't believe it because I didn't find his posts all that scummy, but that really sheds new light on the whole situation...
Rereading now, damnit. Next person to lie I induct into my PM circle and sacrifice to the gods of mafia, this isn't making my job any easier.
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Palmar why do you keep lying? 
Also nice Tnkted, you have shown that you haven´t exactly read the thread  Hope your replacement has more spare time than you, busy buddy.
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LYNCH THE MOTHA FUCKA! peez
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tnkted is telling the truth.
I'm lying again, cause I wanted to make sure if something drastic happened I'd still have my shot available, which I do now. This'll be interesting cause it requires people to take a bit of a leap of faith to keep me around at this point.
Bumatlarge is still confirmed anti-town.
I really wish someone can DT check and clear me tonight, because my role is just that strong. At current I believe I will shoot Torte De Lini tonight, or most of the town seems agreed on that.
Just do it, kill bumatlarge, watch me take a shot at torte de lini, and please, please, please rolecheck me in the process.
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Also yeah, tnkted is clearly wrong on the whole GMarshal thing. We have it confirmed that Torte de Lini roleblocked GMarshal.
If everything goes well, we'll be rid of bumatlarge, torte de lini and kurumi tomorrow.
It should be enough to push us ahead in the fight.
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On June 07 2011 17:41 Palmar wrote: Also yeah, tnkted is clearly wrong on the whole GMarshal thing. We have it confirmed that Torte de Lini roleblocked GMarshal.
If everything goes well, we'll be rid of bumatlarge, torte de lini and kurumi tomorrow.
It should be enough to push us ahead in the fight. You lied. Twice.
Why should we believe that you'll shoot torte? Maybe you'll shoot someone else and claim "oh my shot was bussed" or perhaps you'll do it for our own good, much like not disclosing that you needed fistbumps to get your shot.
You've lied. Twice. I'm half tempted to move from scumatlarge to lynch you, just on policy.
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Don't be retarded. No-one is getting lynched on policy here, and no-one is getting lynched when we have a confirmed scum to lynch. Palmar can very well be scum, and if Torte de Lini survives the night he's almost certainly next.
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On June 07 2011 17:43 GMarshal wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 17:41 Palmar wrote: Also yeah, tnkted is clearly wrong on the whole GMarshal thing. We have it confirmed that Torte de Lini roleblocked GMarshal.
If everything goes well, we'll be rid of bumatlarge, torte de lini and kurumi tomorrow.
It should be enough to push us ahead in the fight. You lied. Twice. Why should we believe that you'll shoot torte? Maybe you'll shoot someone else and claim "oh my shot was bussed" or perhaps you'll do it for our own good, much like not disclosing that you needed fistbumps to get your shot. You've lied. Twice. I'm half tempted to move from scumatlarge to lynch you, just on policy.
Lynching me on policy is stupid. This game isn't about teaching people how to play, but about killing mafia and winning.
Yes, I haven't played well this game, that doesn't make my claim any less valid. Any person voting for me will be saving a confirmed anti-town role, in my opinion most likely scum, in order to lynch a townie that played bad.
If there were no other obvious choices available, then I'd understand lynching me. But with confirmed anti-town available you would have to be crazy, almost anti-town crazy, to want to lynch me.
Let's play this out. at worst you can induct me in your circle and sacrifice me so you don't have to waste a lynch, or lynch me tomorrow.
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On June 07 2011 17:52 Rean wrote: Don't be retarded. No-one is getting lynched on policy here, and no-one is getting lynched when we have a confirmed scum to lynch. Palmar can very well be scum, and if Torte de Lini survives the night he's almost certainly next. He is lying. He lied to secure himself a KP, I can think of no good reason why he would lie to us to get his hands on a KP unless he was desperate to use it, the only reason he would be desperate to use it is if he were scum. I'm leaning more away from him being town the more I look at him.
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Also if we are going to kill both you and scumatlarge Palmar, does it really matter what order we do it in? I mean if we lynch you first at the very least theres no chance you'll turn that KP on the town.
For now I'm sticking with bum, but you are making me queasy Palmar.
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Of course it matters GMarshal. You'd let scum survive the night, and lynch a townie that failed and was thus very easy to bandwagon on.
Just take a look at the situation
Bumatlarge was _always_ going to be under pressure today, after his name got leaked in the daypost and he claimed SK he was going to be pressured today, no matter what.
Last night three people died. All the kills are accounted for, the mafia kill point is missing, so it must've been blocked in some fashion.
Now explain to me, in what universe would I, with very little suspicion on me up until this point, claim I shot an important role if I was the mafia? Even if I did I would just not admit to it and have people think the mafia killed him.
Voila, Bumatlarge is in trouble anyway, so there is no need for any other mafia person to stick their neck out like I did. The only confirmation you have that Chaos13 got killed by me is my word. This is of course true, but it's also very useful for town to know that the kill was a mis-shot. There is no situation where any sensible mafia would put one of their own into the situation I'm in now, with such an easy alternative available.
I am town.
Rolecheck me.
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Bum isn't blowing holes in Detectives. I have new concerns about redFF giving you your fist thing. You lied and immediately two people gave you a bullet. You're scum bro.
          
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Vote for Palmar. I don't know what Bum is. I know he's not town but Palmar is a lot more deadly.
     
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Plus if we lynch you we know if Tnkted is lying as well.
     
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I'm not.
and yes, I'm going to keep defending myself until I actually get lynched. I may have failed my role catastrophically, but I will try to leave as much information behind as I can, and that information comes from discussion.
I'm glad the people give the mafia no credit at all this game, but it might be dangerous in the long run for this town.
Do you think Bumatlarge, or whatever veteran player is on the mafia team told me to shoot the mole to gain town credit, and then promptly lose it all by killing Chaos13 and CLAIMING it?
The mafia would know that their kill didn't go through. They know they didn't hit meapak, and they know they didn't hit kitaman. So now the advice I get from my oh so clever mafia team is "right, we have one kill that hasn't been claimed, we wasted our mole buying town credit for Palmar, so Palmar, go forth and claim it so we can instantly lose whatever credit you have".
Trust me, if I was mafia my actions would be a lot more sensible than that.
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tnkted is telling the truth about my role.
which will be revealed on my flip.
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I now we are just fine talking about Palmar, Bum and Torte, but before I die I´d like to bring some others up, too.
Amber Widely regarded as town, but I don´t see why. He tried hard to convey meaning day1, but it doesn´t make him town. What would you do when you are a scumdog? Right, you would try hard to appear cute&protown and bark at people that have been acting scummy. I didn´t notice much effort from night 1 onward.
redff I have just checked another game of him, to look if he is always like this. Surprisingly he is always on edge in this game, he practically exploded after receiving my vote day1 and it took him 2 days to come up with one accusation post towards me that didn´t consist of "You´re scum. Look here he tells us he won´t vote so easily. You´re scum. He voted me for reasons that weren´t really viable. You´re scum" (I checked Mafia XXXVIII, in which he was much more calm and collected.) I believe I let him off the hook too easily.
Hiro Protagonist He went missing for the weekend and announced to participate again. That has yet to happen.
DropBear Gave huge townie vibes after posting 3 or 4 analysises day1. His other analysises weren´t as good, telling us Bum is lying to us, Kurumi is lying to us and that chaos13 is town(another big post Palmar seems to not have noticed) Has dropped off in activity since. Also kills visitors at night, kinda surprising he was never targeted by mafia till now.
Replaced or soon to be replaced: Weren´t as active and become very hard to read because of replacing.
Tnkted Doesn´t even read the thread.... His role makes him immune to lynches, but no one was going to lynch him anyway.
Kenpachidain Minimal participation. I just checked, Kurumi just assumed he strapped a bomb to me, without any reason.
Killpower club: These guys have the killpower. We must keep tabs on what they´re doing or they might waste it on gut feeling...
Palmar Yeah. He lied, then he lied and now he lies again. He lied in a pro town way first and then in an anti town way. If you don´t keep tabs on him, he will go out there and shoot someone.
Karshe Claims being the bomb strapper. Claims to have tried to kill Varpulis night 1(we have no way of knowing) and now kills me. Unless I suddenly flip mole, this guy needs guidance to use his kp, too.
GMarshal Can kill members of his circle. He has been quite dodgy as a player. Right now, his killpower is bound on killing Kurumi again and again until Kurumi stops or is forced to stop. If he is ever free to decide again, everyone in his PM circle should claim for their own safety, as he can only kill those. Right now he has Jackal, Bum and Kurumi as of my knowledge in his circle.
Kurumi This guy has to die soon. He actively derails the thread since day1. Also selfconfirmed SK, doesn´t get much worse.
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Whatever.
I'm an assassin. This is my role as described by tnkted.
He is the Bro of Destiny. He has no posting restriction (lol, the brostyle was all his idea). He needs to get people to #fistpound him in thread. If he gets 2, he gets a kill. If he gets 4, he gets an extra life at night. 6 and he needs to be triplestacked, etc.
I'm allying my gun with town. I still have two shots from my assassin gun (that's why I claimed I could always shoot, I could prove that), and as long as I get supplied through fistpounds I don't have to use that.
If you want to keep me alive, fistpound me. If you want me dead, don't do it and the other assassins will be all over me. It's pretty easy, the town can completely control when I live and when I die.
I gain nothing from killing townspeople, I gain from killing people that are confirmed not to be on town's side. I want Bumatlarge, Kurumi and Torte De Lini dead as soon as possible. I will shoot at this list tonight.
As I've said a million times, my actions don't add up if I'm mafia. I hope everything makes sense now... with such an overpowered role I really should have been able to win the assassin game, but alas, I was an idiot.
Keep the other assassins a non-threat by fistpounding me for extra lives, that way they'll have to stack to kill me, perchance saving an innocent townie in the process. The reason I'm so hungry for the fistpounds is because well... they'd basically auto-win me the assassin game.
By the way, I gave amber his role. I'm not revealing what it is because it's pro-town to keep it secret. If I ever become suspicious of him I will reveal it.
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