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What if Palmar is lying?
I know, a daring assumption but let´s pretend it was a possibility.
If there are assassins in this game, they will kill him. They don´t need their kp for anything else.
If he for some reason survives, we lynch him.
There shouldn´t be much of a difference between lynching Bum and lynching Palmar. We cannot control either. And they have both KillPower.
The difference is, that Palmar is very likely to die at night, while Bum is not.
Bum is at least bulletproof and we have no killpower confirmed as town to stack up on him.
At this point, the "Palmar problem" will most likely solve itself., while the "Bum problem" won´t. Sorry Bum, but you are simply not town.
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Lol, thanks for stating the obvious Mataza :D
I hope the rest of you read it.
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Don´t laugh, you simply live 24 hours longer than me.  uh:
In hindsight I am grateful to live the whole day instead of the half.
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Thing is, if Palmar actually is an assassin, he will only have tonight to win the game, meaning he will shoot twice, both with his role and with his assassin ability. Thats twice as much as mafia will kill tonight if Kurumi is telling the truth about KP. And I don't believe for a second he will shoot where we ask him to...
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One last question Palmar:
Is there any way to know if Amber is using his superdog abilities for the good of town?
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On June 07 2011 21:40 Barundar wrote:
Thing is, if Palmar actually is an assassin, he will only have tonight to win the game, meaning he will shoot twice, both with his role and with his assassin ability. Thats twice as much as mafia will kill tonight if Kurumi is telling the truth about KP. And I don't believe for a second he will shoot where we ask him to...
I can't shoot both guns at once. Dec said it'd be overpowered.
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On June 07 2011 21:40 Mataza wrote:
One last question Palmar:
Is there any way to know if Amber is using his superdog abilities for the good of town?
No, I don't think so.
His role isn't super powerful, it's just useful.
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On June 07 2011 21:42 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 21:40 Barundar wrote:
Thing is, if Palmar actually is an assassin, he will only have tonight to win the game, meaning he will shoot twice, both with his role and with his assassin ability. Thats twice as much as mafia will kill tonight if Kurumi is telling the truth about KP. And I don't believe for a second he will shoot where we ask him to... I can't shoot both guns at once. Dec said it'd be overpowered.
Dec can you confirm this?
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Wait,so lynch wasn't like yesterday?
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On June 07 2011 21:45 Barundar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 21:42 Palmar wrote:On June 07 2011 21:40 Barundar wrote:
Thing is, if Palmar actually is an assassin, he will only have tonight to win the game, meaning he will shoot twice, both with his role and with his assassin ability. Thats twice as much as mafia will kill tonight if Kurumi is telling the truth about KP. And I don't believe for a second he will shoot where we ask him to... I can't shoot both guns at once. Dec said it'd be overpowered. Dec can you confirm this?
Obviously I can't confirm or deny this as it would reveal information about Palmar's role or alignment.
I can say that if there is any way for someone to have more than 1 KP in a night its a oneshot ability. This is irrelevent to the Palmar situation and I advise you to ignore it.
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Anybody else wanna claim 3rd party? At the rate we're going it'll be 3 weeks before you get lynched.
Kurumi - SK
Bum - SK? Or scum?
Palmar - Assasin? Or scum?
Wtf guys.
Palmar with a gun scares me. If he's scum and lives who knows who he'll shoot.
Kurumi is out of bullets.
Bum claims to have shot Kurumi.
We have to prioritize our lynch.
I would say Kurumi is our lowest priority atm. His role is actually helpful provided he doesn't lie.
Bum hasn't killed any townies yet. Yet. Doesn't mean he wont.
Palmar has shown a remarkable indifference to who he shoots. His claim that he didn't know Chaos was a dt type is bullshit. He's either scum or just shooting random townies hoping to hit another assassin. A role that may or may not be in the game.
All 3 claim to be non town. 1 is now harmless. 1 has claimed to have shot the other known non town at the time. 1 has lied repeatedly and has a gun and has demonstrated his willingness to shoot whoever he damn well pleases.
Please lynch Palmar.
Smileys suck. 
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Your logic is flawed.
Kurumi isn't harmless, he'll lie and deceive to try to be the last person standing, also he's bulletproof.
Bumatlarge is scum, we know he's bulletproof, so that he can't be shot at night. He should hang today if this town wants to stand a chance.
I've lied, but only to further my own goals.
There are very high chances of me dying tonight, there are very low chances of Bumatlarge dying tonight. You're trying to waste a lynch on someone that'll die anyway.
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oh, and you don't know if Kurumi is out of bullets by the way.
The mafia kill from last night is still unaccounted for, Kurumi could claim that all he wants and... well do you think the mafia would come out and tell you that?
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On June 07 2011 21:27 Mataza wrote:
What if Palmar is lying?
I know, a daring assumption but let´s pretend it was a possibility.
If there are assassins in this game, they will kill him. They don´t need their kp for anything else.
If he for some reason survives, we lynch him.
There shouldn´t be much of a difference between lynching Bum and lynching Palmar. We cannot control either. And they have both KillPower.
The difference is, that Palmar is very likely to die at night, while Bum is not.
Bum is at least bulletproof and we have no killpower confirmed as town to stack up on him.
At this point, the "Palmar problem" will most likely solve itself., while the "Bum problem" won´t. Sorry Bum, but you are simply not town.
Just quoting this cause Mataza is right.
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hahhahahaha at Mataza thinking i'm scum please give me some evidence apart from "tunneling on you for 2 days". I believe I am playing exactly to my town meta but w/e.
Bum is the correct lynch, TDL has to die tonight, karshe bomb him, palmar shoot him. If TDL isn't dead in the morning Palmar is lynched. Eternal Misfit is scum also and I would recommend a shot on him tonight, NOT BY YOU PALMAR. Medics on Karshe IMO. Gm sacrifice Kurumi again. Everybody just ignore anything Palmar says.
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Bum or Palmar is a question of a good liar vs. a bad liar. Bum was the first confirmed anti town in the entire game. Both will go down soon™.
Who goes down first is up to preference and maybe the fact you want to use a lynch on someone who has a 90% chance to die to Assassins tonight.
Wasting a lynch is quite anti town, since it delays the lynch of real scum.
While we´re at it, did Kurumi claim which role he made?
I have made a little flow chart with 2 longer chains of roleclaiming already.
Stefftastiq(Medium) -> Mataza(Stalker) -> Meapak_Ziphh(Notary) -> Torte de lini(Roleblockstuff)
Jackal(Smilie Mason) -> Tnkted(Unlynchable) -> Palmar(Brofistdeathray Dispenser) -> Amber(Dog)
Hiro(????) -> Wiggles(Black Motherfucker)
Node(Indie rockstar) -> ???(Kp role, more than 1 kill)
BC(Batman) <-> Bum(Joker)
If I forgot something, feel free to correct this. Node maybe created for Karshe, but we can´t be sure about that.
After this game is over I would love to see a bit disclosure on the creation chain from decon.
However, everyone who didn´t say who he made a role for must either be sure that his role is very pro town or is part of the scum team waiting to mess with us in some way.
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On June 07 2011 22:44 Mataza wrote:
Bum or Palmar is a question of a good liar vs. a bad liar. Bum was the first confirmed anti town in the entire game. Both will go down soon™.
Who goes down first is up to preference and maybe the fact you want to use a lynch on someone who has a 90% chance to die to Assassins tonight.
Wasting a lynch is quite anti town, since it delays the lynch of real scum.
While we´re at it, did Kurumi claim which role he made?
I have made a little flow chart with 2 longer chains of roleclaiming already.
Stefftastiq(Medium) -> Mataza(Stalker) -> Meapak_Ziphh(Notary) -> Torte de lini(Roleblockstuff)
Jackal(Smilie Mason) -> Tnkted(Unlynchable) -> Palmar(Brofistdeathray Dispenser) -> Amber(Dog)
Hiro(????) -> Wiggles(Black Motherfucker)
Node(Indie rockstar) -> ???(Kp role, more than 1 kill)
BC(Batman) <-> Bum(Joker)
If I forgot something, feel free to correct this. Node maybe created for Karshe, but we can´t be sure about that.
After this game is over I would love to see a bit disclosure on the creation chain from decon.
However, everyone who didn´t say who he made a role for must either be sure that his role is very pro town or is part of the scum team waiting to mess with us in some way.
*growls*
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