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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
May 21 2011 01:53 GMT
#475
##Unvote

##Vote hiro protagonist



ok - rethought some things! gl
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
May 21 2011 02:01 GMT
#480
@prplhz

Yeah, i know - makes me looks like a undecisive schmuck or something - I just vote in that order I would like to see people lynched - who knows, others could have changed too :-p

If Mataza shows up to be Mafia it would just be "two more steps" down the road for my "hit list" for lynsjing - if he shows up to be townie tho Ill probably regret writing this post ;-p - But then a lot more people would be wrong too soo

this is exciting
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
May 21 2011 02:09 GMT
#488
yeah - well, that sux
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
May 22 2011 01:21 GMT
#506
and i voted for prplz first, but changed to hiro protagonist
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
May 22 2011 01:23 GMT
#507
Of the 6 people who voted for GiygaS on day1; Mataza and DeepBlu2 voted for prplhz on day2, Skrammen, VisceraEyes and prplhz voted for Mataza on day2, stefftastiq voted for Palmar on day2.




oh, that was just a correction for prplz post earlier, didnt realize there were more posts

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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
May 22 2011 10:16 GMT
#513
Fantastic. I'm pretty staunch on my vote today, so I will throw it out immediately.

##Vote: Palmar

From the evidence that VisEyes has presented, it is clear that Palmar is one of the 2 remaining scum and that he was simply waiting for instruction, but prplhz took action and got rid of GiygaS at the last minute. I'm not too sure who the other scum is, but the possibility of it being prplhz or VisEyes is quite high.


@Wunder

if VisEyesare the other mafia - why should you vote for Palmar, based on his theory?


These two sudden votes seems strange :[
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
May 23 2011 11:49 GMT
#530
Ok - I think we should take a look at the voting patterns again (at least I like to - they show more of what people are actually doing than what they might be saying.


Vote #1
+ Show Spoiler +

DeepBlu2 (1)
Palmar

stefftastiq (0)
VisceraEyes

GiygaS(6)
DeepBlu2
Mataza
Skrammen
VisceraEyes
stefftastiq
prplhz

Skrammen(5)
GiygaS (mafia)
prplhz
Karshe (dead townie)
hiro protagonist
Wunder
nard
prplhz(0)
VisceraEyes

GiygaS to be lynched, night post incoming


Vote #2
+ Show Spoiler +

Palmar(1)
VisceraEyes
Wunder

Hiro Protagonist(2)
Palmar
stefftastiq

prplhz(2)
Mataza
DeepBlu2
stefftastiq

Mataza(5)
nard
prplhz
hiro protagonist
Skrammen
VisceraEyes



Night 1: Karshe killed (town)

Night 2: Deepblu2 killed (town)

What I would love someone to do is to compare the voting patterns with the arguments / analysis done in this thread for the last day - I have to go to work myself so no time until the vote tonight.

I find it a bit strange of VisceraEyes early votes this day - and how i in both votes have changed votes several times - would especially like some thoughts around these quotes:


I live.

##Vote: Palmar

...I'm just getting started!

I agree with a vote for Palmar because DeepBlu2 was Palmar's target d1 and it's reasonable to assume that after the mafia missed their suspect for a PR n1 they went for the easiest candidate that suspected them n2.

And since DeepBlu2 was suspicious of prplhz, he seems like a safe candidate for lynch d3 if Palmar flips red, for obvious reasons (at least to me...)


Just getting started?

and then I ask why so early

@steff

My vote was so sudden because I'm so certain. I assume Wunder feels the same way. I do not encourage you to vote quickly if you're not sure...please take all the time you need to analyze before you vote. But if your decision is to vote someone other than Palmar, I ask that you give a strong argument so that those of us who've already voted have the opportunity to consider your case and change our vote if necessary. As I've stated several times now, I think that voting as a whole is going to be very important to Town winning this thing in the end.


and then...

##Unvote

Inactivity is now a plague on this town.

Who do we vote off first Mafia? I'll accept anyone who's inactive.


really? inactivity a plague? does it really seem so?

TBH im a bit suspicious about ViscEyes - mainly because of the voting patterns (the changes/following the 'other guys' im suspicious of - and you voted for me for a few seconds - and I know my own role - and who who would want to have me lynched (this is weak ofc)

ViscEyes are stil not my 'main' suspect tonight - the others are bolded out in the spoilers.

Thoughts which should be considered:

Mafia might have tried to lead town in the wrong direction by changing votes / offvoting - and focusing on killing the "right persons" at night, as long as not one of their own is targeted.

The players might just have followed the ones they thought were right (both times) - but made wrong choices? - these reasons should really be discussed before tonights votes.

I honestly had more thoughts around this, but after writing this post my mind still is confused - but maybe my post will trigger someone elses thoughs around the same questions (hope so).

Ill be back after work - hoping for some good reading.
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
May 23 2011 11:50 GMT
#531
and after reading through my post after teh post i see that ViscEyes also were voting both Skrammen first then Mataza second (even tho he changed a few times)

It seem to start to fit a picture
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
May 23 2011 12:19 GMT
#532
also there might be the posibility that mafia "spread their votes" to spread the town votes - for so changing to the same person this night - to get the most votes (as far as i know theres more townies left that mafia? or? )
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
May 23 2011 12:58 GMT
#534
tonights vote is going to be exciting
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
May 23 2011 20:59 GMT
#539
I actually have the same view on most of the players, except for myself of course - but I wont blame you for being suspicious tho.

Im still a bit suspicious abot ViscEyes and how he votes for prplz - I am not that sure about this (it was kind of the same way with mataza - wrong reasons i think...

so im going with the same vote as last time - and hoping its red and going through this time

##Vote hiro protagonist

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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
May 23 2011 21:00 GMT
#540
I have to correct myself - maybe not wrong reasons - but wrong order or something
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
May 23 2011 22:28 GMT
#545
@Palmar

I do not think your wrong on prplhz - just not sure, cant even say im 100% sure on hiro, but it made sense last lynch - and nothing about it has changed really, while other players have been active.

the most scary parts are the votes which might be cast just before voting ends which can swap everything if all mafias are none of the oens who have voted - as far as if hiro or pprplz are the one with the most votes hopefully both of them are red :-p
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
May 24 2011 10:23 GMT
#580
@sinani
Hi! are you experienced player or a noob like some of us? :D

@VisceraEyes
U lead a 'crusade' against two townies two days in a row - how does it really feel? "Just getting started?" (from your post, you probably remember")

@prplz
you really think I'm scummy? I was a bit suspicious of you, but not enough to throw my vote with the 'bandwagon' and vote for you, just for the reason that I was not certain enough of whos NOT scum.
Its just sad that other players are prioritizing wrong

Scum are everywhere - I just hope I live through the night
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
May 24 2011 13:45 GMT
#582
Vote #3
Palmar (1)
Wunder
VisceraEyes

prplhz (3)
Palmar
VisceraEyes
Skrammen

hiro protagonist (1)
stefftastiq


out of these people who have voted right now im only 100% certain about one green, and thats myself

@Palmar, VisceraEyes, Skrammen
_WHY_ were you so certain about prplz - or did you just follow the bandwagon - out of my thoungs _at least_ one of you are scum - if not - where are all the scum? :-p

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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
May 24 2011 20:00 GMT
#590
@VisceraEyes

i would really like to know why you think im scum - cause it make me more suspicious of you when you actually accuse me, since i know my role - and i certainly do not know yours!

but I really hope someone looks at my posts, it might give me help to how i can clear the suspicious others might have.

I would rather question how "sure" some of the players have been earlier, both with mataza and prplz - and those players should really rethink how they analyze the players - cause seriously - something is done wrong when both players which was analyzed to be scum show up to be townies


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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
May 24 2011 22:56 GMT
#593
@Palmar

yeah - the first days i was a bit overwhelmed by en the enthusiasm by the other players and had to figure out and read a little more about the game before i felt i could contribute - in addition it was the norwegian national day and we celebrate it like crazy here :-p

I hope we talk again tomorrow, good night
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
May 24 2011 22:56 GMT
#594
@Palmar

Very good post on hiro!
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
May 25 2011 10:15 GMT
#603
@Sinai
Nice analysis - Wunder has been suspicious through the game - in addition to beeing fairly inactive

@Palmar
Yeah - its going to be interesting to see if the town are who we think they are when we vote as a whole too :-p

Seeing other people voting early this day I would really like to see a response from hiro / wunder as well

##Vote: Hiro Protagonist
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stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
May 25 2011 18:08 GMT
#606
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