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On May 10 2011 14:48 Qatol wrote: This totally made dreamflower's night. She says hi and that she loves your profile pic. Nice. It's cool to be remembered by some since I've been away for quite a while. Tell her I say hi back and thanks, but I suspect you won't have to since she'll probably just read this. I'm not sure if Ver misread my /in or if it wasn't explicitly clear enough. But if the game is full after Ace then I'll sign up as a replacement. | ||
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On May 11 2011 01:03 chaoser wrote: I remember you scamp! As soon as you signed up I was like "lul, scamp is playing" on IRC. Remember when you blew shit up in Plexa's summer mafia? I probably do, but I'd have to go back and check exactly which game that was. For being a mostly passive player I've had my share of interesting moments. Also it seems I've missed a lot of drama. Mafia has never been an easy game to play. | ||
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I think the problem with balance theory here is that this format is generally largely untested, and it's also quite difficult to apply the standard game to this one. In general, I'd say to err on the side of being advantageous to town. Therefore I'd say 1KP, which will give people with roles more time to use them and also may encourage people to try to get roles as well. | ||
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Unless you want to assign check-picks to numbers 15-20 or something like that. | ||
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Unless all roles, when used, also show who used them. Which I don't think they do. The only flaw otherwise is if the buddy gets killed. And the check-picks was a joke. But at least I know you got it. | ||
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Furthermore, it seems to me like it'd be even easier for the mafia to direct the town. If the position at #8 does get revealed, now everyone has to focus on that person unless you want to lynch the hero of the town. | ||
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Caller - I dunno how you can call my arguments bad if you think GMarshal's plan is weak. And while I certainly didn't understand some of the intricacies of his plan I certainly didn't flip-flop on anything. | ||
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Case in point: I picked 7-11 which I can see from my home. | ||
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Next, he replaces both godfather roles with the recruiting mason. Caller GF is in his top 6 so that makes sense but why remove the other godfather role from the no-pick list, and what's bad about taking recruiting mason? Finally, he removed 'traitors' from the list. Why would you do this? He replaced it with the PYP3 Veteran. Why add that and not, say, hero or rock star? Why does neither no-pick list have the framer? That seems pretty anti-town to me. | ||
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On May 16 2011 16:15 KillerSOS wrote: I also believe that clashes in numbers won't be that useful this early in the game. I'm sure that the mafia are smart enough to grab some top slots, while at the same time randomizing the other half of their members. Why are you so sure, hmmmm? Also are you suggesting we should be looking at at least one person who picked a low first number? | ||
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On May 16 2011 16:36 Node wrote: Basically, mafia could be anywhere on the list, and it would be foolish to assume that we can find mafia based on the numbers that are picked until we've actually deduced a pattern by killing mafia. The only thing that's even remotely safe to say is that mafia numbers probably wouldn't overlap, but even then that's pure WIFOM. Also, since Kurumi is the first person to get a vote, I'll say what I think of him. In TL Mafia XXXIX he got lynched day 1 because his posts were often confusing due to his lack of English skills and then even if you did figure out what he was trying to say it had little to no bearing on the game. That time, he was a townie. I do think after that experience he's smart enough to not do the same thing again, but just be aware that even though Kurumi can be confusing at times, it's not necessarily an indication that he's scum. Let's try to look for the intentions behind his posts instead. I would like to hear his thoughts now that roles have been handed out. Why did you answer a question that was asked of someone else? | ||
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On May 16 2011 17:12 Node wrote: This looked like a more general question. Yes, I realize there's a "you" there, but a) it's relevant to how we collectively proceed and b) I don't see what you have to gain by having a specific person answer it. I think it's fairly obvious that I have suspicions of KillerSOS so I wanted him to explain himself, is all. | ||
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On May 17 2011 08:48 Radfield wrote: Scamp? Are you there? Anything to add to the general discussion? I'd like you to know that i'm operating under the general impression that you drafted Inventor. Therefore, if something ambiguous or anti-town is invented tonight, I'll probably push for your lynch. However, if you didn't take Inventor, it's possible you may want to state that outright. Nothing much to add to the general discussion at this point. There's only two things I'm curious about right now. First is with all the talk about checking vote lists, did someone confirm a list check role? Second is if OriginalName is going to ever speak again. I'm not going to state at this point whether or not I took Inventor. Someone might steal my patents if I am. Still, if someone does invent something I doubt it'll be as obvious as a 'town-seeking missile' or whatnot. | ||
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While my posts haven't exactly been substantial I certainly wouldn't classify them as evasive. | ||
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On May 17 2011 16:21 Incognito wrote: I also believe that the thief is not an active role in this game. Due to the way the numbers turned out, it is likely that the mafia got enough top spots that they don’t need to steal roles. I don't agree with your logic here. If the mafia have a bunch of top spots then they know what wasn't picked early and can snag a powerful role late. In addition, they also know which top spots to target so the thief is exceptionally powerful, unless you believe the mafia have all the top 6 spots or something. | ||
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On May 17 2011 17:17 flamewheel wrote: Scamp, your posts also don't say much. I wouldn't say they're evasive, but they're one step up from being useless. You've contributed very little to the discussion so far and you haven't even really demonstrated why you have suspicions of KillerSOS. It's kind of hard to demonstrate, but if you need me to I can go back and quote all of them with my thoughts. Basically it's for the same reason people are suspecting me: General uselessness. But his posts carried a vibe that seemed to say he was posting just to post and not because he had nothing to say. | ||
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Also I don't understand how Caller, Flamewheel, and Foolishness have earned 'likely townie' status. What is that second list? And why is KavDragon on the 'likely townie' and 'suspicious people' list? | ||
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Why do you want GMarshal dead the most? | ||
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Kind of curious how I made the short list over Chaoser, though.. | ||
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On May 18 2011 09:42 Incognito wrote: If you survive the lynch, will you promise me to give me the vote list check kit if you are the inventor? I won't tell anyone that you are truly the inventor. Promise. If you want my cooperation in any way it's probably best if you A: don't target me as a lynch target and B: answer my questions (or statements that are question-like). Odd, though. I don't really feel like this threat of being lynched is serious. | ||
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I will be back before the deadline if a decision from me has to be made. | ||
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It should be noted that everyone voting for Barundar right now is suspicious in my eyes except for Radfield. | ||
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On May 19 2011 09:16 Mr. Wiggles wrote: For vote-checker, just name it mafia-vote checker, then it becomes unambiguous. Just "vote checker" only tells us that it checks votes, not what. No, that's not unambiguous. A mafia-vote checker could be a vote-rigging device that's used by the mafia. | ||
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Shortest game I've ever played. Good luck town. | ||
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I actually don't like having such a high pick. I felt I was forced into taking my role and then forced into using it a certain way. Still, that's partially my own fault. This was probably not the best game to make a return to, way too much going on. I wonder how balanced the game is? I feel that mafia lost not due to the town's amazing investigative powers but moreso the utter lack of non-risky violence. The NRA member relies on people coming to you, the capitalist only has one shot, akbar requires your own death, and the CPR doc was Chezinu. Perhaps it was too risky to try to get the really imba combos because of how low everyone in the mafia was picking. | ||
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I guess you at least show up as townie for role checks, but still... But yeah, Villlage Idiot is just dumb. At least make it interesting in some way such as you need to predict when you'll die or some kind of restrictions of playstyle or whatever. Maybe a mafia game where it turns out everyone on the mafia team is a mole. | ||
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