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He's new. At that point in the game, nobody had enough information to post long, structured analyses. His list was well organized, if misguided.
As it stands, his analysis and contribution is better than ilovejonn's. Sinani hasn't posted "i'm town just lynch me," and sinani doesn't have strong connections to anybody in the game because he's been so quiet. Jonn has, and he has potential connections with ABO and jaminz, iirc.
You wrote the wall on ilovejonn. Do you think that you were right?
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On May 14 2011 15:02 DropBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2011 06:57 Varpulis wrote: You don't think that the EM wagon counts as a "counter bandwagon?" Scum could hop on that wagon without raising undue suspicion.
there are what, 29 hours left in the day? ilovejonn has hardly "slipped through the cracks."
If you want him lynched so bad, why don't you try to convince us? If you're not going to try, I'm not going to listen to you. The only argument that you've given is that he's been talked about a lot. I'm ignoring your data, because it's not reliable. If you can give me a solid argument, I'll bite.
DropBear almost has me convinced already. Varpuli, I've saying almost exactly the same thing as orgolove. Ilovejonn and AirbladeOrange are on his top 4 list. I've been saying ilovejonn and AirbladeOrange. He's wrong, but I'm right? That's a blatant contradiction. I'm asking him to elaborate on his belief that ilovejonn is scum. You have, he hasn't. Your posts make a lot of sense regarding ilovejonn. I'm asking him to put in some effort if he wants to get jonn lynched. H'e not wrong, he's just not trying to show us why he's right, so i'm asking him to.
I see no contradiction.
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I'm flip-flopping now, but I just noticed something. Soon before he died, sandroba made the following posts: On May 13 2011 08:13 sandroba wrote: LOL if sinani is mafia imprevious is pretty much mafia aswell =). We keep arguing about sinani and imprevious keep diverting attention to the night 1 kills. I was suspicious of Rising_Phoenix day1 and imprevious posts with questions leading to suspicion towards other people are very scummy indeed.
On May 13 2011 08:13 sandroba wrote: Imprevious if sinani flips mafia you are next on my list =)
On May 13 2011 08:26 sandroba wrote: Ok, but it my other points stand. Our best bet is to lynch sinani tomorrow. If he flips mafia we proceed to lynch imp>jonn.
On May 13 2011 08:45 sandroba wrote: Let's not discuss this further. kev asked for a replacement and he got it. Either way if sinani is scum imprevious is scum 100%. You can be sure of it. In these posts he is basically saying two things: I'm going to vote for Sinani tomorrow, so i'm trying to figure out what we'd do next, and that imp is scum if sinani is.
If Sinani was town, wouldn't scum want to keep the townies voting for him around for a little longer? Also, it's possible that his conjecture is correct, and mafia hit him to keep him from pursuing imprevious after sinani flips.
I'm going to switch back to sinani for now.
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@Sinani I've had a real reason to vote for you for a long time now. That last post of mine was just the latest piece of evidence I found. Reason 1 Reason 2
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hey redtooth, you just voted. Planning on posting in the thread?
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GMarshal has been trolling us all game, have you not noticed?
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May I now state that town is not utterly awful? This time it was a lynch that was unaffected by roleclaims.
With sinani flipping scum, I'm pretty confident that ilovejonn isn't. I'm also quite suspicious that orgolove is. He could very well be the godfather. I think it's time to look at the experienced players who haven't been active and town friendly lately.
That list includes, but is not limited to: redtooth orgolove jaminz
thoughts? Any more names you think should go on that list?
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On May 15 2011 12:37 orgolove wrote:Btw varpulis, if I really was red, then I would've known that sinai was a red. Given that, would I really have posted the following, right after the first fake day post? I'd be proven immediately wrong, in fact, within 5 minutes. Would I really have purposefully put in that position? Show nested quote +On May 15 2011 12:01 orgolove wrote: Fun. As I said. You will all eat your words when the game is over. Sigh. So pathetic. Show nested quote +On May 15 2011 12:03 orgolove wrote: Anyway. The post won't change anything. You just lynched a green. And the reds know it, and are probably laughing their asses off right now in their IRC or quicktopic. WifoM.
As for your other point, I'll concede you that you didn't have access to sufficient data, so I'll drop the data shtick for now.
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Alright, I'm off to sleep. Busy day tomorrow, going to post a list-o'-doom right before the day post, like yesterday.
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@Xedat
Welcome to the game. If you'd like a quick summary:
The game began with a bandwagon lynch on Kurumi, a townie with erratic and confusing posting. Nobody had any real idea who the mafia were, but Irish_Punk13 was FoS'd by redtooth.
Night one we lost A detective, a night vigi, and a townie to night kills.
Day two was exciting. We were set on lynching Cthsazsa all day, until chaoser claimed dt with a red check on Amber[LighT]. chaoser was actually a veteran. 4 pllayers were modkilled. Beneather and Lyter, both day vigilantes, Irish_Punk13, a mafia goon, and Takuna.
Night two the scumteam stacked on chaoser, we learned that we have no medics, and Kenpachi, a night vigilante, hit GGQ, a mafia roleblocker.
Day three was a close lynch between EternalMisfit and sinani206. ilovejonn was brought up as a suspect. We ended up lynching EternalMisfit.
Night three we lost sandroba, a very pro-town player, and Cthsazsa. Before he died, sandroba brought up a possible connection between sinani206 and Impervious.
Day 4 we were torn between lynching ilovejonn and sinani206. We ended up lynching sinani206.
And that brings us to today. a number of vets have been quiet and anti-town lately, and ilovejonn's scumminess is still up for debate.
There are 2 mafia and 13 townies remaining.
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@chaos13 I think that the lynch should be between Jaminz and redtooth. Both have been less pro-town than orgolove.
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Lol, sorry, I was running from memory. It was chaoser FoSing Irish_Punk13, not redtooth, wasn't it?
It is interesting, though, how redtooth was defending irish and pushing chaoser. He chainsaw defends Irish by calling chaoser scum for FoSing him. I'm starting to become very suspicious that redtooth is gf.
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Kenpachi is vigi because of Occam's razor. Nobody counter claimed, so unless the actual vigi is an idiot who decided not to claim for some random reason, Kenpachi must be the vigi.
If we do have medics, then they decided not to save chaoser or sandroba, a claimed dt (it was a bluff, but nobody knew that) and a guaranteed townie. There are two explanations: - We don't have any medics
- Our medics have no clue who to protect
I'm leaning towards explanation one. What is your reasoning, Kenpachi?
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redtooth
I have recently come to the conclusion that redtooth is scum.
Reason 1: Irish_Punk13 puts some random pressure on Irish_punk13, supposedly to get him talking. As soon as people start to take him seriously, he begins hardcore defending Irish.
+ Show Spoiler [original pressure question] +On May 04 2011 11:39 redtooth wrote:^ Then please keep your comments out of thread to reduce clutter. Anyways, let us proceed with the game. Hey Irish_Punk13, I have a question for you: How good does it feel to be scum?Want me to explain how I figured it out so fast? Show nested quote +On May 04 2011 11:33 Irish_Punk13 wrote:On May 04 2011 11:28 ilovejonn wrote: chaoser and chaos13 posting within 3 minutes of each other, SUSPICIOUS! lol Glad to see you Chaos13. I'm sure I'll feel more at home in this game since I know 3-4 of the people playing. I think Jackal and Coag are in this too, so this should be a lot of fun.  Obvscumtell. Please be more discrete next time. I'll put my vote on as soon as the thread gets made. 1 scum down, 5 to go. + Show Spoiler [repeated defenses] +There's an obscenely long post calling chaoser scum because he's pressuring Irish_Punk. It's a chainsaw defense, and it starts with the following:[ On May 05 2011 14:48 redtooth wrote:
FoS: Chaoser Reason 1: The Irish Lynch PushHonestly, let’s be serious: the Irish argument is a joke. There really isn’t enough of a basis to keep pushing it and it has only wasted massive amounts of time that could have been spent doing other stuff. Obviously not many people have been convinced, even though the reasoning behind this is pretty depressing in and of itself On May 05 2011 21:42 redtooth wrote:@Chaoser - I don't see how the argument is weak or convoluted. It essentially boils down to two things: - You are pushing a lynch on Irish, an obvtown
- You are FoSing all the easy targets, many of whom are obvtown
note that chaoser has correctly pegged what, four scum now? On May 06 2011 05:41 redtooth wrote: Irish I still think is town. Kurumi, I'll have to check again. Still leaning towards town though. Actually, where the hell did you even get that line of thought from my previous post?
I'm running out of time to make this post, so I'll summarize the rest of my thoughts: He states how terrible the town is after 1 mislynch and then imposes ridiculous rules in an attempt to clean up town's posting. This seems like an attempt to seem pro-town. When people show resistance, he gives up.
He's been on the wrong side of a couple of arguments, including irish_Punk and Amber (up until the roleclaim). he voted for himself day 3 and has been very quiet lately. Let's see if I live today, if so i'll elaborate.
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Yay I live! 1000th post by the way. Sorry if that post was really rushed, but I didn't leave myself enough time. I'm pressed for time in general atm, so I think I'm going to hold off and post a more well structured argument tomorrow.
@whoever was wondering if Kenpachi was actually vigi: I told you so.
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