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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 09 2011 05:39 GMT
#1382
Anyway discussion about this at this point adds nothing. We should all assume he's telling the truth and see how things go from there. If by some miracle GGQ and Eternal flip green then we can discuss about your wild theory.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 09 2011 15:16 GMT
#1407
Ok people, I've been think about all the possibilities and I'd like to sugest the following, in case there are any DTs left:
Vig hit on GGQ or Eternal. DT check on cthsazsa. You might ask me why waste a check on cthsazsa? The game is pretty much in the bag for town otherwise. The only chance we can still lose this is if somehow this was planed move from the scum team and I don't like to leave things to chance.
There is a very slight possibility that cthsazsa was scum all along and the scum team would lose a member either way, so they fake claimed DT to build incredible town cred. That's pretty much the only way this game is not lost for scum.
It's going to be pretty easy to pin all the scum team on behaviour otherwise, and although I believe the chances of this being the case are pretty small, we can afford to right now.
If cthsazsa comes back town then we know for sure we are on the right track.
How do you feel about this chaoser?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 09 2011 15:40 GMT
#1409
Yes, but if he comes back green it would straight out eliminate the possibility.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 09 2011 18:04 GMT
#1413
If another DT check's cthsazsa and get's town as result I'm 100% sure chaoser is DT. Otherwise there's a slight possibility there might be shenanigans going on.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 09 2011 19:25 GMT
#1416
Yes, chaoser is most likely DT and there's little chance that any other scenario is possible. I agree with kita that it's more likely we have only 2 dts, that's why asking for a check from another DT that's not chaoser does not hurt.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 09 2011 23:40 GMT
#1428
Eternal, what you did there only contributed to me thinking you are scum, because if you are town, wasting a vig hit on you is definitively anti-town. However if you are scum, asking for a vig hit and providing this kind of explanation may lead some to believe that you are trying to contribute and reconsider their thoughts. If you want to prove your worth to the town the best way to do it is to catch scum.
If I'm alive tomorrow I'll take a look at your posts and see if somehow I was wrong about you.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 10 2011 07:13 GMT
#1468
@DropBear What is up with this bullshit analysis? The first line you quoted elmizzt is CLEARLY NOT defending Irish. Saying that he seems like an experienced player in that situation is clearly making Irish seem MORE guilty.

I will ask you to respond this sincerely, because the only reason I assumed you are town is because of your "I pm'ed ver and blablabla" bulshit. This is quite a low blow if you are mafia DropBear.
Would you be capable of pulling this off if you were mafia?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 10 2011 08:20 GMT
#1479
Man I can't believe this. DropBear is mafia. He says elmizzt is suspicious for interacting with EM and then says EM is town. LOL way to go DropBear.
I'm saying this right now EM is mafia and so is DropBear.
I'm also willing to bet that EM is Mafia goon and asked for a vig shot so we would not kill GGQ, the mafia RoleBlocker.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 10 2011 08:28 GMT
#1485
If anyone is not convinced needs further analysis to vote for EM I will provide, but if you just look carefully at the analysis EM posted of me you can see how much bullshit it contains.

I.E. I said "Amber[Light] is overly defensive" and said "Amber[Light] does not really defend anyone" and he claims this is contradictory. How is this contradictory? In the context it was said you can clearly see I refering: In the first sentence Overly defensive = himself
In the second = others

That's only an example of a clearly misleading analysis, you can find many in it.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 10 2011 08:31 GMT
#1487
Orgolove, while I apreciate the effort and those calculation help us see somethings better, they are not our main tool for catching mafia. Mafia are those who are misleading the town on purpose.
Those are EM and DropBear.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 10 2011 08:36 GMT
#1490
On May 10 2011 17:30 DropBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 17:28 sandroba wrote:
If anyone is not convinced needs further analysis to vote for EM I will provide, but if you just look carefully at the analysis EM posted of me you can see how much bullshit it contains.

I.E. I said "Amber[Light] is overly defensive" and said "Amber[Light] does not really defend anyone" and he claims this is contradictory. How is this contradictory? In the context it was said you can clearly see I refering: In the first sentence Overly defensive = himself
In the second = others

That's only an example of a clearly misleading analysis, you can find many in it.

Can you link me to his analysis of you please?


No, you are mafia.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 10 2011 08:41 GMT
#1494
Can we please drop the numbers discussion and focus n behaviour?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 10 2011 08:43 GMT
#1496
I'm not sold on ilovejonn and AO atm.
We should focus on EM first.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 10 2011 08:46 GMT
#1498
The thing is I'm 99% sure on EM and only 90% sure on DropBear.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 10 2011 08:54 GMT
#1501
Let me point you to this post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=216644&currentpage=54#1061
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 10 2011 08:56 GMT
#1502
@Orgolove I'm not saying that. But if someone posts an intencionally faulty analysis they are mafia.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 10 2011 09:57 GMT
#1521
@Everyone Look at the facts. The discussion about the Vigilante shot was between EM and GGQ.
EM comes out and asks for the shot on him. GGQ flips Mafia role blocker.
Come on, think about it. If you are town and people are arguing between shooting you or someone else (who chaoser provided great analysis on) do you ask for a shot on yourself?!?!?
This only makes any resemblance of sense if EM is mafia.
I'm willing to bet he's Mafia goon.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 10 2011 09:58 GMT
#1522
On May 10 2011 18:40 Kenpachi wrote:
I believe i am the Vigilante?

No. You are Kenpachi.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 10 2011 10:15 GMT
#1523
I'll explain the events of last night so you can understand.
First question: Why would mafia double stack chaoser? Answer: They have only 1 roleblocker and he was in danger of being shot. Chaoser said Amber was Mafia goon, so they were pretty convinced Chaoser was DT. If they didn't double stack him chaose would be free to check everyone until finding all mafia. If they had multiple roleblockers they would not waste 2kp on him and only keep roleblocking him.

Second question: Why did EM ask for a vig shot? Because GGQ was mafia lone role blocker.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 10 2011 10:49 GMT
#1526
@Forumite So can we please slay EternalMisfit?
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