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happy1
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Meapak_Ziphh
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![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/jG0Yo.jpg) RoL and Meapak were in their usual places waiting for the night to end. The screams that echoed through the chamber would have chilled the blood of any decent person but RoL and Meapak had only science in mind. When at last the lights came on Grumpy1 was discovered lying dead on the floor. “What a tragedy” RoL said laconically as Meapak hauled the body to a dumpster. | ||
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grumpy1
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RebirthOfLeGenD
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happy1
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happy1
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##Vote Caligula | ||
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caligula1
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Analysis on both of them coming up. | ||
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caligula1
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+ Show Spoiler + On April 17 2011 11:04 claudius1 wrote: Wow :/ really... every single mafia game we play in this forum, voting the inactives is frowned upon and looked like a scum move. This game, people are voting me because I haven't been here much today (sorry that I had to work today). With only hmmm.... 11 hours to go, I'm probably going to die since I have to go again in 1 hour. What did we have to talk about back then? Please tell me? That ON posted with his real account? Or what, that two players were having a pissing contest kind of like Annul vs LSB in Mafia XXXV, or like Jackal vs Tackster in Insane Mafia 2? One was mafia vs town, the other was town vs town... indistinguishable, just like this. Nothing to post about. Poor excuses for not posting and overly defensive On April 17 2011 11:24 claudius1 wrote: @first point, killing an inactives gives nothing to the town to analyse. That is why it is good to put pressure but not actually kill them, especially night 1. Since if for example I die, then there is no posts to look at from either me or people defending me in order to try and find scum from that. This is why lynching inactives is a poor choice early on, because town needs information and lynching an inactive gives none. Even without flips, we can still get relationships from the way people have posted concerning the lynch-ee. As of now, there would be no relationships towards an inactive, and as such little to no gain for the town at this moment. @ second point, what reasons should I give? I'm town... we're 6 pages into the thread. What kind of immense amount of value can I give my self this early in the game? This is a stupid request... all I can say is "I'm town" there has been nothing to look at and analyze, so there is little to nothing for me to add to this town at the moment. Hell, no one has value at the moment. Most people are just randomly spamming to look active, but very few people have actually posted anything of value. Simply attacking each other over nothing. @Role Claims, its stupid to do so unless your about to be lynched. A town will tell the truth, a mafia will lie. It helps when we use the reveal. A mass role claim does nothing but give mafia targets, terrible idea. @Tiberus1 putting himself up as a check target... then he is either GF or Town. But its not a huge tell, in Insane Mafia a few people asked to be DT checked and were town, so what... This game isn't moving so there is little that I can say, the only person I can analyze so far is you with 20 of the threads posts (a HUGE amount). Most of which being spam, or FoS of like 3 to 4 different people already... Its day 1, there is very little information we can get from players, especially with this activity level, and yes that is hypocritical, but really, I don't care. Voting for inactives does 2 things. It pressures them to post and it lynches those that don't post at all. You don't want to be in lylo with someone who has 3 posts all game, you have no information on them at all. This is much worse than getting minimal information from a day 1 inactive lynch. Also, if everyone had the attidute of 'why post if nothing is happening' then nothing would ever happen because NO ONE WOULD POST. He also downplays the fact that his GF partner has asked to be DT checked. On April 17 2011 11:26 claudius1 wrote: You do realize that the last 2.5 pages are nothing but one sentance posts right... so what am I supposed to be looking for? This? or this? or this? Seriously read the posts... no one is posting anything of use... its just a tonne of spam. Its really hard to analyze spam. More shit excuses about why he isn't posting, and no actual posting. Mafia feel naturally guilty and so will give excuses a lot more than any town would. On April 17 2011 11:28 claudius1 wrote: EBWOP: Oh ya, sorry I could also look at the day1 "analysis" people have done so far, that consists of quoting every single post a player has made to the moment, calling it spam, then FoS'ing them... so useful. Looks exactly like the Pokemafia analysis that let the mafia hide behind the fact that no one reads that kind of analysis, and then totally destroyed the town. So far, the game is just like every other day1, people trying to look busy so they don't die, whooopeeee And yet STILL nothing useful, you are complaining about spam while doing the exact same thing. On April 17 2011 11:30 claudius1 wrote: Anyway, I have to go pick up my GF from her work, then I have to sleep beacuse I have to be up in 8 hours so that I can go to work again. I'll be back twice more before the lynch, right when I get home, and when i get up. I will respond to posts when I get home, and will role reveal when I wake up if I'm going to be lynched, but I most likely will not be able to contribute any more for day1 than that. Sidenote, I hate flood control especially when I cannot edit my posts... More excuses, more pointless posts On April 19 2011 10:31 claudius1 wrote: Aye I think that there isn't a lot being posted, not that I'm helping. But even now, look at the vote counts and its pitiful. I was hoping to see what others had pulled out of the thread before I voted. But it seems like there is nothing to look at, or very little. I think the mafia thought that Bashful was an experienced player, and killed him off for it. They can still meta game even if they aren't supposed to... I thought he was scum when I read through day 1 quickly. But I'm not 100% sure, was a gut read. Reading through his posts he does try (or seems to try) to contribute. As well, the Bashful killing does pressure Tiberius. Although it could be a mafia ploy to get pressure off Tiberius for a long time. Kill bashful, have us look at Tiberius. Move off of Tiberius, and make him look more town. Grasping at straws, but its all we have up till now. Magic and Rainbows. After killing off the experienced player that had fingered tiberius, he uses WIFOM to subtly divert suspicion from his partner. Also more excuses, seeing quite a pattern here. On April 20 2011 00:01 claudius1 wrote: haha, we lose this game if we haven't lynched a mafia already, or don't get one tomorrow. Current players = 7 (5 town, 2 mafia)(or 6 town, 1 mafia) Night = 6 (4 town, 2 mafia)( or 5 town, 1 mafia) lynch = 5(3 town, 2 mafia) (or 4 town, 1 mafia) night = 4( 2 town, 2 mafia) or (3 town, 1 mafia) We need to use ability tonight to know if we are lylo for next lynch... because if both mafia are alive for tomorrows lynch, and me miss lynch, we die, unless we can protect / get a lucky hit on a vet. So: activate the town's ability On April 20 2011 00:05 claudius1 wrote: Wait I'm retarded... Current players = 8 night = 7 lynch = 6 night = 5 lynch = 4 its lylo next lynch, disregard what I said above... Unvote for ability Pretends to vote for the ability and then changes his mind straight away with some bullshit excuse. Notice that the only two people that voted no on using the ability that night are the scum. On April 21 2011 06:50 claudius1 wrote: FoS sleepy1 sleepy, I'm not liking your posting... You started the game posting, terribly with stuff like: and Then (can look at his other posts around that time... all similar looking) you came out with this gem: You FoS someone for posting like you... this is you trying to look like you contribute more to the thread, but simply are being hypocritical. + Show Spoiler + On April 17 2011 10:39 sleepy1 wrote: -_- ##vote augustus1/b] I doubt mafia are going to be inactive/post only once in a game of 11 people. Mafia would want to blend in and try to look like they're contributing but not really, not stay quiet and not do anything. augustus1 has been saying either things that are common sense or questions: On April 16 2011 21:46 augustus1 wrote: So are you advocating a mass claiming? On April 16 2011 22:59 augustus1 wrote: How does a medic "happen"? If you read the OP you will see that the medic is not informed if they do a successful protect. Nor is the person they protected. Actually I'm thinking right now the scum team just outed itself. Happy and Caligula. On April 16 2011 23:02 augustus1 wrote: Claiming at lynch is fine and all but it doesn't really mean anything. Claiming before that is suicide. On April 17 2011 00:28 augustus1 wrote: I understand how the roles work I understand how KP works. I also understand how scum like to create pointless arguments on day 1 to fill a game full of bs. Role claiming in this setup at this time makes no sense. Role claiming before being lynched is fine. But it is basically useless information. Medic gets lynched. Medic claims before nightpost. Scum hit vet. Does that verify the medics claim??? Apply that to vig, medic, vet. Any number of scenarios can arise in night actions to make it appear they were telling the truth. It's all WIFOM. If you are a vig and claim your shot before the day post you would be confirmed if there are 2 kills and 1 was your claimed target. If you are cop and post your targeted person before the day post and the day post shows that player you are confirmed. You are also likely dead. For all we know if we had a medic they died 2 days ago. Now throw in a role blocker. Night actions and results can in no way shape or form be used to determine if somebody has truthfully made a role claim. You're scum. ##Vote: Caligula1 On April 17 2011 00:45 augustus1 wrote: OMGUS. Nice one too. I'm aggressive? Before I was dense. Or a troll. I'm not spamming anything. I'm stating my opinion on role claiming. You are the one pushing an argument. Quickly defensive and really just all around being aggressive without a real reason (not like it's focused aggression to draw a response in my opinion) Then you come out and FoS augustus1. You don't follow through with the doc1 pressure, you just switch right to augustus1. Then he FoS's happy1 and Tiberius, although this time he keeps the Augustus FoS... somewhat. ^^^ btw, 4 of his posts are this exact thing, except worded differently such as: and Then we come to his final gem of a post + Show Spoiler + [B]On April 21 2011 00:53 grumpy1 wrote: It was the very beginning of the game. I'm not sure what else you could have wanted from me then. I'm not allowed to change my mind? After a post tiberius made, I saw what seemed liked scummy play. Tiberius clarified his intentions and started contributing more. I decided there were better lynches to be made, namely sneezy. I honestly have no idea what's going on in this quote. I tried to lynch an inactive, since there aren't modkills for inactivity? Scum! I thought augustus wasn't the best lynch, so I voted for somebody else? That's so scummy! -_- You're blowing it out of proportion. I've pressured tiberius, voted sneezy for inactivity and dopey for the reasons tiberius gave. How were they weak or scummy? Quote me, and tell everyone, otherwise this doesn't mean anything. Nope. Another FoS, he drops the ones on Tiberius and on happy1 for this. sleepy1 is just FoS'ing every single player, without actually following through with a single thing. He is trying to act like he is contributing, but he FoS's a player, then never posts about them again. He is making it seem like he is helping the town, while still staying at arms length. Even if you look, most of his FoS's have been soft FoS's like "I don't like the way you post" instead of calling them scum. Only now, when its pretty much lylo does sleepy1 actually post that someone is scum, I'm betting that grumpy is town and sleepy1 is trying to get us to lynch him to help his team win. To me this is a slip, but others might not see it this way... - - - - - Btw, the other mafia player is either Tiberius1 or happy1 simply because no self respecting mafia team would let the most active posters (Tiberius1 and happy1) survive until the end game without being part of the most active players, while trying to get the town to lynch the other active players. This is just my opinion, but if you look at who the mafia has killed, they have both been less than active players, which is surprising for a mafia game. Would be surprised if one of them wasn't mafia... Nice analysis on our confirmed townie | ||
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caligula1
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happy1
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caligula1
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On April 23 2011 00:08 happy1 wrote: I'm actually waiting on sleepy to check in and say some stuff before I continue I would like to know your reasoning for voting me so I can try and defend myself. | ||
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happy1
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On April 23 2011 00:11 caligula1 wrote: I would like to know your reasoning for voting me so I can try and defend myself. No. I'm being obtuse. But actually, thinking on it, I'm not going to vote you atm purely because your'e actually bloody playing at the moment. ##Unvote | ||
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caligula1
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On April 23 2011 00:35 happy1 wrote: No. I'm being obtuse. But actually, thinking on it, I'm not going to vote you atm purely because your'e actually bloody playing at the moment. ##Unvote Well 2/3 of me/claudius/tiberius are mafia, you just need to decide which one of us is innocent. If you look back, claudius has been defending tiberius' ass the whole way through. | ||
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sleepy1
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On April 23 2011 00:08 happy1 wrote: I'm actually waiting on sleepy to check in and say some stuff before I continue yo, what up. still think tiberius is mafia even though grumpy was medic... | ||
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sleepy1
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tiberius1
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Caligula has been perfectly happy this entire game to lynch whoever the town suggest. He's bandwagoned several times. Look at some of his posts that simply accept what the town is doing: On April 17 2011 21:52 caligula1 wrote: Seeing as dopey is getting modkilled Unvote Vote augustus1 On April 19 2011 21:51 caligula1 wrote: Good case tiberius. ##Vote Dopey These are the only two votes that he's posted in thread. Neither of them are good votes with any sort of reasons attached. He's been way too happy this game to simply let people kill who they want. On April 21 2011 22:13 caligula1 wrote: If neither grumpy nor sleepy die tonight, they are the mafia. If one of them does is tiberius + claudius. Medic on happy. Announcing who he wants the medic on is the scummiest fucking thing ever. Mafia (ie, him) is simply going to hit whoever the medic isn't protecting, which is exactly what happened this game. Furthermore, he's got that great "if one of these two die tonight then the mafia is this," which is also great info for mafia since mafia, if they hit the opposite of what they are, can confirm themselves as town. There are so many easy loopholes for mafia to squirm through here its rediculous. Only scum would post such a thing, because only scum needs this badly to get 'in' with town. Then he does the same exact thing again! On April 22 2011 02:25 caligula1 wrote: Unless you are claiming vet medic should 100% be on you if he exists. You are our only clear. If you die that confirms grumpy as scum. and again, On April 22 2011 22:24 caligula1 wrote: Ok, grumpy dying has confirmed sleepy and happy. As such the 2 mafia are tiberius and claudius. Analysis on both of them coming up. Caligula and Claudius are scum. If I haven't cleared myself by being one of the only active players posting analysis in a game where mafia could have been lurking all the way to victory, then you're an idiot. Now, the real question is, why would caligula bus claudius? Since its lylo right now, wouldn't killing me or one of sleepy/happy be the better plan? No. Caligula is bussing Claudius because he is afraid of the odds here (two thirds chance that he or claudius get killed) and he figures that if he were to push to kill me first town would be suspicious and would kill him instead, leaving claudius in a 1v2 senario tommorrow. His thought process is working like this: Why would I try to lynch tiberius now, which is risky as hell since happy has a fos on me, when I can bus my teammate, who will certainly go down because hes actually scum and only we have noticed the scumtells? when the game doesn't end I can point out that I am, in fact, town, and then will have the cred to kill sleepy. Fiendish plan, but it isn't going to work on me. #vote caligula | ||
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caligula1
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claudius1
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On April 23 2011 00:49 caligula1 wrote: Well 2/3 of me/claudius/tiberius are mafia, you just need to decide which one of us is innocent. If you look back, claudius has been defending tiberius' ass the whole way through. um I haven't been defending tiverius at all. I didn't defend him once this game :/. I actually called him scum in 2 of my posts... Tiberuius1 and sleepy1 were the only two people that I have called mafia all game. So where did this defense come from? Stop making stuff up. | ||
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caligula1
39 Posts
On April 23 2011 02:50 claudius1 wrote: um I haven't been defending tiverius at all. I didn't defend him once this game :/. I actually called him scum in 2 of my posts... Tiberuius1 and sleepy1 were the only two people that I have called mafia all game. So where did this defense come from? Stop making stuff up. Read analysis | ||
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happy1
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So; what makes Sleepy a confirmed townie? Because I believe I missed that memo. | ||
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