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On March 17 2011 01:25 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: AMBER! Where you been broski? New job brah no more working at home. My spoiled life has come to a sad end  | ||
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On March 25 2011 09:49 annul wrote: hahahahahahah ive only been arguing this entire time that bum is NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT confirmed. can he be blue? sure. is he CONFIRMED? of course not. We're not going to "confirm" a player in time to elect them for mayor. It's a necessary risk so I don't really understand why you're arguing the point. | ||
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On March 26 2011 05:34 GMarshal wrote: Amber[Light] wherefore art thou? you have one post on page 42 or so and that is it. I want to see you post more or I might have to become suspicious, and if I become too suspicious I have to ensure your death, which would sadden me greatly. Alas some sacrifices must me made for the greater good of the town. So post damnit, your only post is one of the agree with the bum vote posts, I want some opinions from you! Yah I know I haven't been active so far I was waiting for the Day post to come up before I began posting. I didn't really want to commit to a plan or begin constructing a plan until the game "officially" began. Besides that the annul spam-fest was becoming incredibly overwhelming so I just didn't even want to participate in that. I think Bum would be a good mayor. I also feel like the election is a little too one-sided and it's worrying me a bit. I won't be voting for someone for the time being. I just wanted to touch on one other post I spotted that is very important. On March 26 2011 05:55 darmousseh wrote: I'm not super active mostly because of work, but I will respond to pms from people in the item game. I'ts important we identify greens so we can work together. I'm trying to decide who to vote for, but it looks like it doesn't matter since bum is leading. We can't lynch today, no one has really done or said anything interesting. On day 0-1, theres always too much speculation going around. The whole annul thing is probably blown out of proportion and i'm also talking to people in the item game since it's important to make sure that the baddies don't get their hands on those items. The item game people 1. Coagulation - is not as crazy as normal. 2. darmousseh -thats me! 3. Jackal58 - not really anything interesting yet 4. annul - obviously of interest, but probably is town 5. Tackster - no idea 6. Lemonwalrus - nothing interesting Finding the two baddies is very very important and we will need to focus lynch targets probably on that group, but at the same time if the mafia is smart, they will leave people there alive until the last moment in order to drag out the amount of time spent on deciding who to lynch. The 6 of us are obviously high night kill targets too so identifying the baddies is the most important thing right now. My gut says coag is probably not town and that one of the newer players is also not town. I gotta agree with this completely. The best way for a townie victory on the item game is to begin whittling down this list. The items will become very important later on as well [I hope]. I think Annul and Coagulation are two persons of interest. Annul is probably green. There's no way I could believe that someone who's been productively spamming this thread is red. Coagulation is not playing crazy. He's being punctual with his posts and it's not like his play from previous games. Then again his play from previous games looks nothing like his play from games before those. I am convinced that Coagulation is pro town, regardless of how much bb code he places on my name in a list. | ||
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On March 26 2011 16:56 Eiii wrote: Mostly just checking in here, but I really don't like the tackster lynch for now. I had him as a pretty green read, and I CANNOT BELIEVE MORE PEOPLE DIDN'T CALL JACKAL OUT ON THIS I thought this was some kind of throwaway joke reply at first but the he started backing it up. Originally I was going to post another selection of quotes from him that I was gonna say made me question his previously-green status in my mind, but then I read over them and realized I was an idiot and missed the point of the posts entirely. I'm hovering around 80% sure jackal's town, but that doesn't mean we sheep after him all the time. If anyone in the item game should be lynched I think it should be darm, lemon and tack need more investigation. That's definitely not the case. As of right now he's given us good direction for the first day and it's not worth discounting him because of things like "I'm hovering around 80% sure jackal's town..." I'm still a little lost on the item game concept other than the items are going to be beneficial later. Focusing on the item game players would be good if we want to get the item game over with. This is a huge risk though because if we mess up the items could go to another party. I think it should be up to the item game players to battle it out amongst each other in the thread. It's harder for the other 20+ players to just jump in and start throwing punches. We should be focusing on other things like finding scummy players within the thread. I'm going to look into a couple of players outside of the item game who are playing differently. Don't count on this before the end of the day though, but I'll try to get it closer to ~8 PM tonight whenever I'm available again. For now I'm going to throw my mayor vote on bum just to avoid death. I still find it a bit unsettling that the election is almost entirely on bum. This isn't going to benefit us later for scum hunting. | ||
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On March 27 2011 02:35 Tackster wrote: Thinking about it now if scum have a DT item then it does them no good really as far as the item game goes. That leaves them with other powers (such as a killing shot) with which they would be stronger. I assume that scum weren't given non-scummy items but since this is insane mafia and it's a mini-game then it's possible. Anyway the point is if a town is lynched d1 and all the town use then even if none are killed at night scum could steal from 2 out of 3. That leaves us with little information to work with. If scum kill another town then that leaves us with almost no information... Darmo what do you think of all greens agreeing to steal instead? Wouldn't a DT item help scum identify black players? Or even blues? You shouldn't discount the strength of an ability because it seems protown. Would advise reading PYP mafia games if you don't agree... | ||
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On March 28 2011 13:00 Lanaia wrote: @Kavdragon Will you be sharing with us the reason you think you were hit or would you prefer not to? He doesn't think he was hit, he says he took a hit. On March 28 2011 12:31 Kavdragon wrote: Right, just got back online. I've not read up yet, but I took a hit last night. Gotta account for this as well. I really don't like this bandwagoning that's going on. Yah it's really suspicious that your hit got swapped but it just seems too convenient. We're allowing the trigger happy coag run the show. Are we going to see a townie fall today because of your short-sighted analysis? | ||
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On March 29 2011 10:58 GGQ wrote: The argument that Tackster can't be mafia because he didn't know coagulation had the gun is fundamentally flawed. There's one thing that everyone, including coagulation, seems to be forgetting. Coagulation claimed that he had a stun gun that would disable his target's power. That's why scum redirected Coagulation to annul; to disable annul's hot potato so that it wouldn't blow up and kill the other scum who was assigned to shoot annul. Meanwhile Tackster stole from jackal to prevent jackal from shooting him. That fact that Coagulation ended up shooting annul was completely accidental by the mafia. Thus the 4 kp are as follows: Red hit annul Red hit Kav or Gmarshal Black hit Kav or Gmarshal Coag hit Tackster, but was redirected by scum to hit annul because scum thought that his stun gun would stop annul's potato from killing the scum who killed annul. GG lynch Tackster So are we confirming Coagulation as well under this assumption? | ||
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On March 29 2011 22:29 deconduo wrote: Safest thing to do. No reason for a townie to stay quiet if he was hit. If it was a mafia hit, mafia would know he's black. If it was a vig hit, vig would know he's red/black. This is pretty spot on. It'd standard to claim you were hit immediately after it happens. Hiding out and waiting for someone else to claim usually hurts more than helps. | ||
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Sry posting from a cell phone -_- | ||
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On March 30 2011 05:43 tnkted wrote: Sorry for spamming, I'm done now. Lets look at the evidence against Tackster for a minute. What exactly is it? He was accused by Coag and Jackal of being mafia before night 1 even happened because...? anyone remember why? Then on day 2, after GM etc died a plausible explanation for why Tackster was mafia suddenly emerged. Ironically, it came from, again, Coag and Jackal. Lemon meanwhile contentedly watched the proceedings from the sidelines. Why didn't he defend Tackster? I mean, somebody just tallied up the votes, and absolutely none of them was any objective analysis of Tackster's play. Hypothesis: A new player will often tend to be more paranoid than an older player because the new player doesn't know what sort of behaviors are commonly trustable and which aren't. This is why you see me pointing FOS's at everybody who blinks twice; I don't know who is playing me for a fool. Lemon didn't do that at all. He happily accepted Jackal and Coag's plan. I am also considering switching my vote, although now IDK whether its between Jackal or Lemon. FOS Jackal or Coag and see what players become the most paranoid. Honestly Deconduo can you really blame me for the hardcore lurking? Excessive posts are extremely excessive. There's clearly a bunch of nooby mafia players in this game but the spam fest continues and continues. This is overwhelming. Remember guys less is more and this isn't a quantity battle. The game is not to see who screams the loudest. I think the item game has really added a mind-fuck mechanic to this game that has got people going bonkers looking for one mafia member. I'm actually hoping that by tomorrow the item game is pretty much a thing of the past. I also realize that the only way to have a townie win is to get rid of the mafioso in the group. Tack seems to be the best target, but don't forget.....When this item game is over, the mafia player in that game knows he is probably outted and more or less dead anyway. Would he even bother to put up a fight? Does an item game victory guarantee the mafia enough to salvage 1 life? Is tack just allowing himself to sink? I mean yah he's trying to keep himself alive but no one is really going towards his aid anyway. If the town consensus is to go ahead and lynch Tack then I'll vote that way. He's either been abandoned by his own team or he's alone already and no one wants to really stick out their neck for him. | ||
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On March 30 2011 06:21 GGQ wrote: That's really different from regular bulletproof tbh... probably should have been stated in the OP. I've been operating on the assumption that they are just 'bullet' proof. Most TL Mafia games [IIRC] state that 3rd party players with bulletproof are actually night kill proof [they only die to lynches], and I'm assuming most of the players in this game were playing this game with that same description in mind. | ||
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On March 30 2011 07:05 LSB wrote: Uhh. There no difference between the bulletproof of Insane and other games. I know. I'm agreeing with you. | ||
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On March 31 2011 07:18 tnkted wrote: I understand what you are saying, but you should know: if you're going with this plan tonight, I will die. 100% certainty on that. I'm willing to do it, but you should be aware. Oh, and my plan will void roleblocks too so don't bother wasting any on me. This is assuming that this other person doesn't get back to me. Sometimes we get roles that require us to sacrifice ourselves for the good of the game. In the original insane mafia I was a zombie so the only way my KP would be useful was for me to die, so I tried as hard as possible to get the mafia to hate me enough to off me. You may not make it to the end but you're going to really help get the town get some good items for the future. I think we should start looking at some of the people who fucked up last night and switched back and forth. We should also look at some of the people who didn't hop the bandwagon, including myself. It's not as though I would have switched my vote. Coag you should know this more than anyone else in this game that the last time a last minute vote train was created it caused the mafia to be safe. I was on the other side of the glass in that scenario and even if I was able to switch my vote, I wouldn't have. There's no way I could sit there and believe that a last minute vote train wasn't somehow encouraged by mafia activity. My gut was wrong though and it sucks to have to bite that loss, but can you really blame the players who voted for tack and stuck with him after almost a unanimous vote? It seemed almost too certain. | ||
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I've been suspicious of kav since night 2. Didn't he say he "took a hit" one night? No one even came forward to say he was protected? If I missed that post I apologized, but I recall him claiming that he took a hit night 1. | ||
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On April 04 2011 01:16 CubEdIn wrote: don't think it's insaneous. but i'll look through it tomorrow. however, who did Kenpachi have his bombs on? Those would be confirmed blacks since none of them died. On April 04 2011 01:20 tnkted wrote: He only had one bomb. The other one was on GGQ and was lost when he died. I see now I thought you were implying it was on GGQ and iGrok not Kav and iGrok. I'm catching up Saturday nights are never very good -_- | ||
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On April 04 2011 03:27 Coagulation wrote: well theres always the possibilty ILJ bombs two town today. Or if they're black we have screwed ourselves with lynching a townie and getting no result other than a wasted lynch. | ||
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On April 04 2011 03:32 Jackal58 wrote: We get the names of two blacks. Nervous? Do the math and see why thats a terrible idea... | ||
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On April 04 2011 03:33 tnkted wrote: wrong! we'd have confirmed two blacks, which is good as well. And I think you're scum. Care to defend yourself? I've been on scum lists since Day 1. Why start defending myself now? It's pretty obvious that I'm a late-game scapegoat. Blacks and mafia wanted to just keep me around thinking I was going to be useless to the town. | ||
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On April 04 2011 04:19 tnkted wrote: Do we have a way to avoid you getting roleblocked? I can bus you i suppose, but that would open me up to roleblocks. Bussing takes place before kill, so they would have to roleblock me. However, that would mean that you would NOT be roleblocked, which is what we want. In addition, it makes more sense for red to roleblock one of the black players and kill him. Does roleblocking a black character remove his (or her) bulletproofness? Yes. | ||
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On April 04 2011 04:25 Lanaia wrote: Was that a confession of being black? How could you possibly know that otherwise? It's been like that every other time there's a black party and a role blocker. | ||
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On April 04 2011 04:58 tnkted wrote: We can't know what we can do until day flips. Then we can begin to talk about what we're doing tonight. Lol and I'm considered scum? We have two options here. Lynch John and take out 2 other players or lynch Kav to reduce the number of black players remaining. Even if you're sure you will hit 2 red, you're removing 3 votes for tomorrows lynch. We will not be able to take out 2 blacks in 1 day, so we need to utilize the lynches to take out black players. Kav is a guaranteed shot at doing this. Don't forget the red players are probably running scared at this point since they know they're doomed. Their godfather was eliminated and it seems that the black team has a list of other red players. They want the town to lynch red (or lynch john to explode on red) because then the town won't be able to outvote them. They won the black market. So they have access to items in the black market from what I read, and we don't know exactly what that means. The safest bet is to avoid doing their dirty work for them and get rid of them. They are the biggest threat right now to the town. | ||
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On April 04 2011 08:07 deconduo wrote: deconduo Jackal58 Coagulation CubEdIn ilovejonn Eiii Lanaia tnkted Beneather (Bot) Pandain Mr. Wiggles OriginalName orgolove kevconsim Amber[LighT] Insanious Kavdragon This is pretty much what we have right now? Any disagreement? Yah this isn't even close to right. | ||
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On April 04 2011 23:13 CubEdIn wrote: Yeah ok dec, we can deal with you later. But yeah, we shouldn't leave the freaking arena kill a townie again because of a sc match. Just kill Pandain. -_- Not that I don't want to see pandain squirm or anything, but we should really begin to think about how lsb banking is going to work. Do we need to kill him? And what about the other bot player ? Did we forget about him? | ||
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On April 05 2011 11:57 CubEdIn wrote: orgolove and amber, going by what blacks said. and there's bombs on both. Killing us is going to fuck the town | ||
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On April 05 2011 23:56 CubEdIn wrote: Well you know, that's why you should RB him. Don't you think I would have done that instead of posting here? I'm implying something else with this post about the role blocker | ||
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Well Idk him | ||
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On April 06 2011 04:40 Lanaia wrote: Check kav/wiggles/kevconsim/amber if we need to/if we can. I don't think it's the best idea to shoot me tbh, but whatever floats your boat. For the love of god if this town wants to win don't check me. | ||
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On April 06 2011 07:41 Lanaia wrote: ... What on earth is that supposed to mean? You haven't contributed much. You haven't ddone much of anything. Why should we assume you're town then? I hope you're not the DT. | ||
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On April 06 2011 08:02 Lanaia wrote: HAVE YOU FUCKING READ? HAVE YOU READ WHAT THE HELL MY ROLE IS? Really. Really? You think I'M POSSIBLY A DT? I was nicely insulting you. | ||
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On April 06 2011 08:17 Lanaia wrote: How was that an insult? I don't even understand. If you were in fact the DT then it would be obvious [after you said to check me of all people] as to how this towns stellar scum hunting abilities were confirmed throughout the game. I'm so excited for the post game... I just can't wait. | ||
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On April 07 2011 05:53 deconduo wrote: @Mafia Who did you roleblock, they are confirmed black. Role blocker isn't red. | ||
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On April 07 2011 07:16 CubEdIn wrote: /facepalm /retard Sorry, I keep mixing them up. Reds had the puppeteer. Yes, it makes sense. Blacks RBed a red. They probably know something we don't, since they got their roles. So blacks killed tnked with their regular kp, and mafia didn't get to shoot, because the one player with a gun was RBed. Which means that kevin was RBed? That would make the most sense based upon the kills from last night. | ||
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On April 07 2011 07:23 CubEdIn wrote: wtf no, the underboss had the role-block. ON was the puppeteer. wtf is going on here y mess with my head amber! damn you read the day post srsly congrats dude you did well aside from the black market slip up. | ||
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On April 07 2011 09:53 CubEdIn wrote: I was RBed night 3. That's why I didn't DT then. -.- Wasn't sure if the discussed target was actually that target for that night. Last night should be accurate. | ||
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On April 08 2011 03:49 deconduo wrote: Considering that amber didn't lie about RBing kav I have some hope  This game should be over in a day | ||
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lol i thought about doing that. | ||
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There were too many mechanics. Black market was broken for third party. Blues cheated and got slapped on the wrist twice. Coagulation is the worst mafia player ever. Of all the people that should pat themselves on the back for a job well done he should be the last. The game was fucked from nearly Day 3. Nothing you did benefited the town. You caused the town demise. GL to everyone in BB's game And just wanted to add something else. WTF was the deal with the arena? First you put Pandain in. Then replace him with RoL so a mafia is in it. You endangered a key mafia role by just throwing him in there, and then just gave up. If Pandain wasn't going to be active just give me or orgo the ability to use. | ||
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I was really surprised the other two factions let Black get buy out the names so easily. For a mechanic so game changing, I would have thought more attention would have be paid to how much money they had to prevent it from ever happening. There was no way to monitor how much money was being spent. I was the treasurer and never knew who was spending what. If the 3 members [arms dealer, treasurer and the other one] were told what was being spent by LSB banking then it would have been somewhat helpful. The black market was another game I had to keep track of, hence why I never really had a chance to post in the thread. That was more daunting than anything. I didn't sign up for the item game because I knew I wouldn't have time to participate in both. Along the same lines, why would the police force ever want to make scum bulletproof. Each faction was given an item to sell that would hurt their chances of victory. The point is that no one would ever buy a bulletproof vest if they were black, so both blues and reds were at a disadvantage. When I thought about it after maybe there should have only been one type of ability per team that could be sold: Red can sell a medic item Blues can sell a detective item Blacks can sell a bulletproof or KP item Something that would actually encourage activity in the black market. You wonder why I never sold one pill or even posted in the black market? | ||
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On April 08 2011 12:46 Coagulation wrote: Jesus you guys. it was "INSANE MAFIA" Shit might get fucked up no big deal.. LETS ALL TALK ABOUT HOW STUPID COAG IS LOL TUNNEL MORE NEWBIE NICE RAKE LOLZ WALRUS CONFIRMED GREEN EZ It wasn't insane as much as it was retarded. | ||
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On April 08 2011 12:45 kitaman27 wrote: Tnkted was told that if he bussed himself then he could avoid MC. His night action was based upon this information. It was a mistake that we didn't realize the role interaction conflict ahead of time. Obviously, we couldn't please both parties so we did what we thought was most fair by having the two roles cancel each other out. I'm sorry that it upset so many of you. The fair thing to do would have been to let us know you misled us so we could create another plan. You guys saw the QT and just let us go ahead with it. | ||
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On April 08 2011 12:50 GMarshal wrote: IN his defense he *did* snipe two mafia with his KP. Although frankly his day 2 play left something to be desired Our entire team gave up after like...night 2. | ||
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On April 08 2011 12:55 Coagulation wrote: bullshit. that has nothing to do with me still killing them its not like they said "LOL WE GIVE UP WE ARE RED" Meapak was going to throw the game and Kev never even posted other than to vote really. Our play went to shit after the night because our morale dropped: our night actions didn't work like we were told they should have, and then the black market was won by the blacks within the same couple of hours [wtf?]. It was purely coincidence that your hits were so lucky. I doubt you even did any actual analysis. Most of the other players threw us on scum lists which you probably just took and used anyway. I'll praise cubed for doing a great job but I'd never say you were of much help to the town. | ||
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On April 09 2011 06:28 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: To further prove that he just decided things on a whim, look at the pandain situation. He entered pandain into the arena when he wasn't playing, fine whatever. Weird as fuck mechanic, what's new with that? But then he subs pandain out with a mafia member. How can that strike you as logical at all. If it somehow was balanced, or not retarded to introduce pandain into the game with the arena, how is it balanced to all of a sudden give him a mafia role and sub him out. That shrieks of poor decision making. The thing that drives me crazy about this though is he defends it saying we were retarded for how we acted and not questioning shit enough, and won't just admit he fucked up. This. This. This. This. This. This. | ||
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On April 18 2011 03:22 Mr. Wiggles wrote: ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/2PhRr.png) lol this is epic | ||
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