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On March 26 2011 15:53 Tackster wrote: Does the town's KP count as their lynch or should I assume my other natural assumption i don't want to mention It is not the lynch.
If two people try to steal an item from someone what happens The first person who sent in actions gets it
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I've seen tack play mafia and he lurks hardcore as scum. This is definitely his town play.
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Jackal has done one thing... 2 of darmousseh, jackal, coag, and lemon are scum. Annul and Tack are town.
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First of all - Insanious I totally agree.
Second - deconduo while I want to be confirmed I don't need to be told I lurk as maf. Insult or what?
Jackal keeps claiming he has a vig power and then later mentioned that possibly it is coags vig power. Im afraid that a player in the IG can shoot - doesn't bode well whether he's town or mafia given the disinformation going on.
Are we going to consider the mini-game steal/def/use strategy itself or is that useless?
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On March 26 2011 23:53 deconduo wrote:Also note this: Show nested quote +On March 26 2011 14:34 Tackster wrote: Lol my PM asked for people to actually converse with me. You're either seeing scum where you want to or trying to create problems for town. Thanks for outing that btw I think it shows how reasonable I am!
As a townie I am sitting tight till i get more information...
And you should too Tack got the townie PM, Jackal didn't.
Good enough for me. darmousseh and Jackal are scum. Jackal is probably red, Darm is black.
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Let's put this to a town vote then, I can keep track of the vote count:
To vote for someone please write Votes: Name (LEAVE OUT THE ##)
That way, we can see where the town falls on the issue
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Vote Jackal58
FOS darmousseh FOS BrownBear FOS Amber[light]
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vote: darmousseh
and while we're doing this, #elect: Annul, not because I think he'll be a particularly good player as mayor but purely as an article of protest against bum. If bum looks like hes about to lose at the 11th hour I'll switch my vote.
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Vote Tackst.... I mean
Vote Jackal58
FOS iGrok FOS Beneather
I'm currently stuck between Lemon, darmo and coag. Do we really have enough on darmo to think he's scum? Or is this a policy lynch in the IG?
People I think are FOT (Finger of townishness):
BumAtLarge CubEdIn tnkted Annul GMarshal deconduo insanious ilovejohn
That second list there are only people I think are pro-town - not in any way confirmed.
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Tack, lemon also picked up one of my breadcrumbs.
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@tnkted If you think Jackal and darmo are scum why are you voting darmo first?
Surely you think Jackal is more scum and also we don't want to split the vote so shouldn't you vote jackal?
Also you picked the mayor no one likes as mayor instead of the person we're calling clear...
tnkted what's going on?
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On March 26 2011 16:56 Eiii wrote:Mostly just checking in here, but I really don't like the tackster lynch for now. I had him as a pretty green read, and I CANNOT BELIEVE MORE PEOPLE DIDN'T CALL JACKAL OUT ON THIS Show nested quote +On March 26 2011 11:38 Jackal58 wrote:On March 26 2011 11:36 Lanaia wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 26 2011 11:23 Jackal58 wrote: Hola fellow townies. A fond fuck you to scum. I'm gonna do the same shit i did in XXXVII. I'm gonna start a shit storm of the absolute highest magnitude. I'm going to exceedingly piss off 3 IG players and I'm going to tell you guys to lay off three of them. But I'm not telling which 3 until tomorrow. And now I'm going to give town victory on day 1 #1 Bum lynch Tackster. Dunno if he's red or black but he is scum. #2 I want medic protection over night. #3 If Tackster flips black I will shoot the other scum. If I miss and hit green the remaining one will be tomorrows lynch. #4 Item game players can stop me from shooting them but they will be lynched. #5 Did I say I need medic protection for this to work? If we don't have a medic I'm hosed but town is still going to win. #6 I will not announce scum #2 until tomorrow. #7 Worse case scenario is we have 4 confirmed townies plus bums circle of 3 #8 Best case scenario is we have 5 confirmed townies plus bums circle #9 That's 8 vs the world #10 Bum's circle is cops. They should be able to add more townies faster than scum can kill us. #11 Scum of either black or red persuasion will immediately try to kill all of us in the IM game. If I do manage to survive night 1 town has a kp at their disposal on night 2 and I will shoot whoever you vote for. Caveat - There are a few who shall remain nameless at this point that I will not shoot. #12 I was going to wait until tomorrow to post this but I want bum and his team to have time to hash it all out. I am town. I can deliver at worst 2 out of 3 kills as scum or hopefully best case is 2 for 2. #13 Town wins. #14 Scum sucks. #15 Stuff it noobs. I know what I'm doing. #16. This is "Insane" Mafia remember!!!
It would be nine confirmed townies if you include bum himself, isn't it? Also, Jackal, why is Tackster scum? Consensus. I thought this was some kind of throwaway joke reply at first but the he started backing it up. Originally I was going to post another selection of quotes from him that I was gonna say made me question his previously-green status in my mind, but then I read over them and realized I was an idiot and missed the point of the posts entirely. I'm hovering around 80% sure jackal's town, but that doesn't mean we sheep after him all the time. If anyone in the item game should be lynched I think it should be darm, lemon and tack need more investigation.
That's definitely not the case. As of right now he's given us good direction for the first day and it's not worth discounting him because of things like "I'm hovering around 80% sure jackal's town..."
I'm still a little lost on the item game concept other than the items are going to be beneficial later. Focusing on the item game players would be good if we want to get the item game over with. This is a huge risk though because if we mess up the items could go to another party. I think it should be up to the item game players to battle it out amongst each other in the thread. It's harder for the other 20+ players to just jump in and start throwing punches.
We should be focusing on other things like finding scummy players within the thread. I'm going to look into a couple of players outside of the item game who are playing differently. Don't count on this before the end of the day though, but I'll try to get it closer to ~8 PM tonight whenever I'm available again. For now I'm going to throw my mayor vote on bum just to avoid death. I still find it a bit unsettling that the election is almost entirely on bum. This isn't going to benefit us later for scum hunting.
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On March 27 2011 00:39 Tackster wrote: @tnkted If you think Jackal and darmo are scum why are you voting darmo first?
Surely you think Jackal is more scum and also we don't want to split the vote so shouldn't you vote jackal?
Also you picked the mayor no one likes as mayor instead of the person we're calling clear...
tnkted what's going on?
*sigh*
go read my posts dude. I explain pretty clearly why I'm doing what I'm doing. Bum didn't want to use my plan on moral grounds, so I called him out as a bad choice for mayor (we should use every advantage we have imo, this is insane mafia). I'm voting darm because I think jackal is mafia, and I'd rather kill the bulletproof guy and hope that some vig in the crowd takes a potshot at jackal.
People have said it a million times, its better to lynch blacks than reds, because blacks can't get picked off by reds. Let the blacks kill the reds at night, while we kill the blacks in the day.
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On March 26 2011 23:46 Insanious wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2011 11:38 Jackal58 wrote:On March 26 2011 11:36 Lanaia wrote: Also, Jackal, why is Tackster scum? Consensus. That is the worst reason I have heard in a mafia game pretty much ever... In a game of mafia, people don't trust the town as a whole because it can be manipulated by mafia. The same can be said about a 6 person mafia game (aka. The Item Game). Mafia ARE manipulating the town in that game... the scum WILL follow any lynch that a green puts forward as long as it is not against them self... A show of hands means absolutely nothing, when the scum are whispering lies into people's ears. Only proof means anything, and without PMs or posts, this means nothing. - - - - Now, lets look to where Jackal SLIPPED UP: Alright, so he is saying: - Darmousseh, Lemmon, Jackal, and Coag say Tack is scum - Annul and Tack say that Tack is town but wait... Show nested quote +On March 26 2011 14:07 annul wrote: i never told jackal that i thought tackster was a green
i never told jackal i thought tackster was a red or black either. So now he is making up what Annul said... He told me Lemonwalrus was scum. I said that alreadyNot to mention darmousseh, who doesn't post, is telling Jackal that he thinks Tack is scum. darm told me one of the two noobs was scum. I said that.So Jackal lied about what he knew of other players, in order to get Tack killed... very town like right? Another lie, that we know... Tackster said he hasn't been sent, or has sent out PMs... meaning Jackal once again LIED about Tackster to get him killed. Tackster had received PMs at that point. He lied. Show nested quote +On March 26 2011 12:41 Jackal58 wrote:On March 26 2011 12:28 GMarshal wrote: Jackal I want the concrete, physical evidence why you think Tackster is scum and which player in the IG you think are town and why you think they are. I want *concrete* evidence, posts or PMs that can be quoted and analyzed. Not this nebulous we agree on it. Give me something to work with jackal, please. I am not going to do that. My original post said I am not going to do that. I will not and can not put townies on the line before night one action. You know what I have said. Everything I have posted can be confirmed during night one actions. I will not post PMs for the same reason. My post was more for Bum and his team to go over. But I want to be as transparent as I can be. But I will not kill my fellow townies to satisfy your desire to defend scum. Sorry man. I gave you what I can. It's Bum's lynch. Not yours. He can feel free to lynch me if he chooses. But I just put my dick entirely on the line for town and I feel no special compulsion to further satisfy your curiosity. This doesn't make sense either... He has already said "Tackster is scum" "Me, Coag are Town" "Annul is probably town" So who are you putting at risk? darmousseh or lemon? And i forget, didn't you say lemon was town as well later... So basically you are not putting out PMs because why? Because everyone knows you think Coag, you, annul, and lemmon are town. That darmousseh and Tackster are scum... dude wtf. Show nested quote +On March 26 2011 13:42 Jackal58 wrote:On March 26 2011 13:37 tnkted wrote:On March 26 2011 13:14 Jackal58 wrote:On March 26 2011 12:40 tnkted wrote:Lol... On March 26 2011 12:29 tnkted wrote: coag, dont post anything until jackal responds to it. i want to see what he finds first. That applied to you too annul. FACEPALM Oh well. Jackal, there are a few more. see if you can find one. On March 25 2011 23:32 tnkted wrote:IRC IRC IRC. No discussion on bum, no discussion on kav. He has no thoughts other than IRC (which a noobie mafia would obviously not want) and a rehashing of a rehashing of bums position. And this is his last significant post in this topic! his final post says something like, "I decided not to post until roles were given out. The last ten pages in this topic could have been replaced with a kitten playing with yarn." I wasn't convinced he was mafia before I started this post but I am now. BURN THE WALRUS Can you highlight where in the post I use the word/phrase/breadcrumb? and the sit tight comment was from several hours ago before you came out with your plan, which triggered mine. I told you I don't really give a shit. I'm not jumping through any more of your hoops to appease your curiosity. Bum holds the only hoops I'm interested in. We have the game in hand. We is town. Go bait some robins. ... and then he cannot find the proof of town in tnkted's posts. So basically Jackal doesn't have the town alignment PM. I'm not interested in playing tinkle toes breadcrumb game. He already sent me off looking for shit from the wrong PM. Pretty scummy on his part. Jackal is Scum. He is manipulating the IG to win it for his scum team. I believe he thinks that Tackster is the other scum team player... Jackal needs to die. I have not lied. You can spin it any scummy way you want. Go ahead and lynch me. You'll still be absolutely clueless on who is scum. We'll lose 2 other townies in the game tonight and you sheep will most likely lynch the last one tomorrow.
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So... Jackal you do realize YOU and darmousseh are the ONLY players in the item game that have NOT shown that they know what the town alignment PM is...
So basically YOU and darmousseh DID NOT GET ONE.
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tnkted United States. March 27 2011 00:47. Posts 297 I'm voting darm because I think jackal is mafia, and I'd rather kill the bulletproof guy and hope that some vig in the crowd takes a potshot at jackal.
People have said it a million times, its better to lynch blacks than reds, because blacks can't get picked off by reds. Let the blacks kill the reds at night, while we kill the blacks in the day.
What makes you think jackal is black and darmo is red? I don't see the reasoning...
Just saw Lemon's breadcrumb. Also rereading that entire bit I can see why people arent 100% clear from it but its a start. I hope you're keeping a list of people that let crumbs out cos there's plenty more. And LSB's posts do lead me to believe that he sent similar if not the same alignment messages to everyone.
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On March 27 2011 00:55 Tackster wrote:Show nested quote +tnkted United States. March 27 2011 00:47. Posts 297 I'm voting darm because I think jackal is mafia, and I'd rather kill the bulletproof guy and hope that some vig in the crowd takes a potshot at jackal.
People have said it a million times, its better to lynch blacks than reds, because blacks can't get picked off by reds. Let the blacks kill the reds at night, while we kill the blacks in the day. What makes you think jackal is black and darmo is red? I don't see the reasoning... Just saw Lemon's breadcrumb. Also rereading that entire bit I can see why people arent 100% clear from it but its a start. I hope you're keeping a list of people that let crumbs out cos there's plenty more. And LSB's posts do lead me to believe that he sent similar if not the same alignment messages to everyone. He thinks jackal is red because the mafia needs to get the black player lynched. Jackal is trying to get people in the item game lynched.
The black player wants people to ignore the item game, as the longer the item game goes, the more likely the black player wins, since he cannot die to night hits.
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On March 27 2011 00:51 Insanious wrote: So... Jackal you do realize YOU and darmousseh are the ONLY players in the item game that have NOT shown that they know what the town alignment PM is...
So basically YOU and darmousseh DID NOT GET ONE. You are a normal townie, sit tight, you'll get your role in 24 hours Townie is in green. Twinkle toes told me to look in role PMs Then said Oh sorry I meant alignment PMs. that's when I quit playing his game. It's bs any ways.
Not copied - typed out. Sit tight while I nail your scummy ass to the wall.
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Are black players bulletproof forever, or are they like vets with two lives?
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On March 27 2011 01:01 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2011 00:51 Insanious wrote: So... Jackal you do realize YOU and darmousseh are the ONLY players in the item game that have NOT shown that they know what the town alignment PM is...
So basically YOU and darmousseh DID NOT GET ONE. You are a normal townie, sit tight, you'll get your role in 24 hours Townie is in green. Twinkle toes told me to look in role PMs Then said Oh sorry I meant alignment PMs. that's when I quit playing his game. It's bs any ways. Not copied - typed out. Sit tight while I nail your scummy ass to the wall.
Seems the only thing you know is sit tight. And only sit tight. Do you know any of the other bread crumbs?
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