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On March 29 2011 10:52 tnkted wrote: THEY GOT THE GUN. THEY USED YOU AS THE GUN. YOU ARE THE METAPHORICAL GUN, IN THIS SENARIO
HOW DID THEY KNOW WHO HAD THE GUN COAG? Explain me that. HOW DID THEY KNOW?
NO THEY DONT GOT THE GUN I HAVE THE GUN.
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Coag, are you saying that they used their mind control ability on you JUST IN CASE you and jackal had built up a hugely elaborate plan spanning 80+ pages, then shot annul with their own KP, JUST IN CASE you were running a sting operation?
That is hugely unlikely that they would spend so much of their force on a hunch like that.
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They dont have the gun tonight They dont have the KP they dont get to aim the KP at whoever they want tonight
THEY dont have the gun.
Why the fuck would they choose letting me keep the gun and maybe getting a shot off where they want over you know... ACTUALLY TAKING THE GUN AND HAVING CONTROL OF IT.
THEY WOULDNT.
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The argument that Tackster can't be mafia because he didn't know coagulation had the gun is fundamentally flawed. There's one thing that everyone, including coagulation, seems to be forgetting.
Coagulation claimed that he had a stun gun that would disable his target's power. That's why scum redirected Coagulation to annul; to disable annul's hot potato so that it wouldn't blow up and kill the other scum who was assigned to shoot annul. Meanwhile Tackster stole from jackal to prevent jackal from shooting him. That fact that Coagulation ended up shooting annul was completely accidental by the mafia.
Thus the 4 kp are as follows:
Red hit annul Red hit Kav or Gmarshal Black hit Kav or Gmarshal Coag hit Tackster, but was redirected by scum to hit annul because scum thought that his stun gun would stop annul's potato from killing the scum who killed annul.
GG lynch Tackster
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On March 29 2011 10:56 tnkted wrote: Coag, are you saying that they used their mind control ability on you JUST IN CASE you and jackal had built up a hugely elaborate plan spanning 80+ pages, then shot annul with their own KP, JUST IN CASE you were running a sting operation?
That is hugely unlikely that they would spend so much of their force on a hunch like that.
not only is it highly likely that they would spend so much of there focus on that its FUCKING STUPID if they didnt. The item game is the complete focus of this entire game. OF COURSE THEY ARE GONNA SPEND ALL ABILITYS WHERE ALL THE BLUES ARE GONNA BE LOOKING. Who the fuck ELSE would they mindcontrol?? WHO?? WHY?? No one.
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On March 29 2011 10:57 Coagulation wrote: They dont have the gun tonight They dont have the KP they dont get to aim the KP at whoever they want tonight
THEY dont have the gun.
Why the fuck would they choose letting me keep the gun and maybe getting a shot off where they want over you know... ACTUALLY TAKING THE GUN AND HAVING CONTROL OF IT.
THEY WOULDNT.
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I just wrote up a huge long post saying precicely what I've said 6 fucking times and then deleted it because the way I am trying to explain this is clearly not working.
Lets try it a new way:
1. Coag, why do you think you were mind controlled last night? 2. How did they know to mind control you? 3. Why didn't mafia just steal the gun from you?
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tnkted and Coagulation, please stop and read my post before continuing
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Just did GGQ.
I think you're right. I think thats exactly what happened.
You gain +2, which brings you to a grand total of -1 in my book.
Meanwhile, Tack goes from 1 to -15 .
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On March 29 2011 10:56 tnkted wrote: Coag, are you saying that they used their mind control ability on you JUST IN CASE you and jackal had built up a hugely elaborate plan spanning 80+ pages, then shot annul with their own KP, JUST IN CASE you were running a sting operation?
That is hugely unlikely that they would spend so much of their force on a hunch like that.
On March 29 2011 11:01 tnkted wrote: I just wrote up a huge long post saying precicely what I've said 6 fucking times and then deleted it because the way I am trying to explain this is clearly not working.
Lets try it a new way:
1. Coag, why do you think you were mind controlled last night? 2. How did they know to mind control you? 3. Why didn't mafia just steal the gun from you?
They didn't need to know who had the gun. Their plan was simple.
1) Make sure Tack wasn't killed 2) Make sure annul was dead
So they did this
1) Steal from Jackal 2) Mind control Coag 3) Shoot annul
This covers their entire plan. They kill the "confirmed green" of annul. They stop Tack from being killed. If Jackal had the gun, they just stole it. If Coag had the gun, they just shot annul. Just to cover all their bases they shot annul.
See? Simple. Do I get batman lovin' yet???
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1. Because they couldnt be 100% sure jackal was the one with the gun. 2. THEY DIDNT "KNOW" to mind control me They covered all bases In the event that Jackal didnt have the gun and it didnt get stolen by tack they wanted to make sure he didnt get fucking shot. 3. Cause they had been busy trying to steal it from jackal.
THEY TOOK A GAMBLE. STEAL THE GUN FROM JACKAL THEY FELT SURE HE HAD IT MIND CONTROL COAG JUST IN CASE WE ARE WRONG.
ITS SO SIMPLE.
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We were both wrong Coag. GGQ's explaination makes WAY more sense than both of ours. And, happily for you, it manages to confirm Tack as scum.
Everybody wins! When does day 2 end?
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On March 29 2011 10:58 GGQ wrote: The argument that Tackster can't be mafia because he didn't know coagulation had the gun is fundamentally flawed. There's one thing that everyone, including coagulation, seems to be forgetting.
Coagulation claimed that he had a stun gun that would disable his target's power. That's why scum redirected Coagulation to annul; to disable annul's hot potato so that it wouldn't blow up and kill the other scum who was assigned to shoot annul. Meanwhile Tackster stole from jackal to prevent jackal from shooting him. That fact that Coagulation ended up shooting annul was completely accidental by the mafia.
Thus the 4 kp are as follows:
Red hit annul Red hit Kav or Gmarshal Black hit Kav or Gmarshal Coag hit Tackster, but was redirected by scum to hit annul because scum thought that his stun gun would stop annul's potato from killing the scum who killed annul.
GG lynch Tackster
So are we confirming Coagulation as well under this assumption?
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On March 29 2011 11:09 Amber[LighT] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 10:58 GGQ wrote: The argument that Tackster can't be mafia because he didn't know coagulation had the gun is fundamentally flawed. There's one thing that everyone, including coagulation, seems to be forgetting.
Coagulation claimed that he had a stun gun that would disable his target's power. That's why scum redirected Coagulation to annul; to disable annul's hot potato so that it wouldn't blow up and kill the other scum who was assigned to shoot annul. Meanwhile Tackster stole from jackal to prevent jackal from shooting him. That fact that Coagulation ended up shooting annul was completely accidental by the mafia.
Thus the 4 kp are as follows:
Red hit annul Red hit Kav or Gmarshal Black hit Kav or Gmarshal Coag hit Tackster, but was redirected by scum to hit annul because scum thought that his stun gun would stop annul's potato from killing the scum who killed annul.
GG lynch Tackster So are we confirming Coagulation as well under this assumption?
This assumes that Tackster is red, which would mean Coagulation is confirmed because all of the remaining IG players are town.
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On March 29 2011 10:58 GGQ wrote: The argument that Tackster can't be mafia because he didn't know coagulation had the gun is fundamentally flawed. There's one thing that everyone, including coagulation, seems to be forgetting.
Coagulation claimed that he had a stun gun that would disable his target's power. That's why scum redirected Coagulation to annul; to disable annul's hot potato so that it wouldn't blow up and kill the other scum who was assigned to shoot annul. Meanwhile Tackster stole from jackal to prevent jackal from shooting him. That fact that Coagulation ended up shooting annul was completely accidental by the mafia.
Thus the 4 kp are as follows:
Red hit annul Red hit Kav or Gmarshal Black hit Kav or Gmarshal Coag hit Tackster, but was redirected by scum to hit annul because scum thought that his stun gun would stop annul's potato from killing the scum who killed annul.
GG lynch Tackster
I never thought of the stun gun. >.<
This makes sense with Tack as scum.
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Coag was confirmed loong ago.
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On March 29 2011 11:09 Amber[LighT] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 10:58 GGQ wrote: The argument that Tackster can't be mafia because he didn't know coagulation had the gun is fundamentally flawed. There's one thing that everyone, including coagulation, seems to be forgetting.
Coagulation claimed that he had a stun gun that would disable his target's power. That's why scum redirected Coagulation to annul; to disable annul's hot potato so that it wouldn't blow up and kill the other scum who was assigned to shoot annul. Meanwhile Tackster stole from jackal to prevent jackal from shooting him. That fact that Coagulation ended up shooting annul was completely accidental by the mafia.
Thus the 4 kp are as follows:
Red hit annul Red hit Kav or Gmarshal Black hit Kav or Gmarshal Coag hit Tackster, but was redirected by scum to hit annul because scum thought that his stun gun would stop annul's potato from killing the scum who killed annul.
GG lynch Tackster So are we confirming Coagulation as well under this assumption?
..amber post more buddy. I know the threads a peice of shit but town can really use all the help it can get sorting it out
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Oh right...I totally forgot they told people it was a stun gun instead of a well...real gun. Thanks GGQ for keeping cool and informing us. Will put my vote on Tackster for now since it's been half a day.
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when does the day end? should I be voting soon?
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