EPTYou guys don't get it, but it would be in town's BEST interest for something like this to happen. 4 non-town down so fast, leaves 6 baddies out of 10. Epic start to the game imo.
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CubEdIn
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You guys don't get it, but it would be in town's BEST interest for something like this to happen. 4 non-town down so fast, leaves 6 baddies out of 10. Epic start to the game imo. | ||
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CubEdIn
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Let's come to a conclusion here. It is good to pick a blue mayor. It is BETTER to pick a green mayor from item game. It is most horrible to pick a red mayor from item game. It is "just bad" to pick a black mayor from item game. So, you know, we have "better" against "horrible". Unless someone counter-claims, we have the blue. I don't want another game that ends in mass murder. So I'd rather NOT take the chance of picking that red, even if the odds are slim. | ||
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On March 25 2011 09:56 darmousseh wrote: OMG, so much posting going on I can't keep up. Can someone summarize a little. yes: 1. annul is insisting that there are blues who refuse to counter-claim, and will probably keep refusing to counter-claim even after roles are handed out. 2. he is suggesting we pick someone from the item game as mayor, even though if we fuck up and choose a red, it might lead to town losing the game. | ||
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CubEdIn
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I'll go sleep soon. I don't have the nerves to post the same thing over and over and over again. It's pretty clear that most of town does not agree with annul, so we'll just see who wins the election. | ||
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CubEdIn
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By arguing constantly you're only encouraging spam. Be the better man and let it go, at least till tomorrow. | ||
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So, if you had the lynch right now annul who would die? Probably bum, cuz then he'd be 100% confirmed. AMIRITE? | ||
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CubEdIn
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if you make me write down the reasons again i swear i'll murder someone. | ||
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I mean, yes, annul seemed very anti-town so far, and I would also get rid of such players, but he was trying to make his case and at least we have a lot of pages of posts to analyse, if need be. The quiet ones are always the ones that are hiding something. | ||
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CubEdIn
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And just so you don't think I'm spamming, I'm all for lynching the lurkers. It seems that everyone in the item game is chatty, part from lemon, which makes me think he's a bored townie. So I'm gonna push him and darmousseh to talk more, or I'll cast my "vote" on one of them (based on "duck duck duck goose" principle, if lack of other evidence). Carry on chaps! | ||
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On March 26 2011 05:05 annul wrote: see and the funny thing is bum is the only one who is saying i am not the lynch target today Actually, I said that as well. But not because I don't think you're scummy (or let's say... anti-town-ish), but because we should have everyone who signed up play this game, not surf around the lurker wave. | ||
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CubEdIn
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1. Insanious: you'll need to give us more reasons. Mostly because of what happened in Death Factory. You were sure about kenpachi but he wasn't mafia, so you know, you may be wrong now as well. And even if you're not, you can't just say that, you need to convince town. If you ARE wrong they you might get yourself killed as well and lose two townies (assuming no red would stick their neck out to kill a random townie). 2. People asking for DTs: don't. You're giving mafia/blacks reasons to frame you (if they can), or take you out (if you get confirmed in the item game or something). It's stupid. Trust in DTs to find their own targets and bring them out in the manner they see fit. 3. I agree that unless something extraordinary happens, we should take out someone in the item game. Even with a 1:3 shot to hit a scum, it will only get better fast (assuming some of them die during the night as well). If they kill one, we will get a 1:2 shot during day 2. Of course, it's not set in stone, stuff may be revealed, but as a guide line it's a good place to start. | ||
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CubEdIn
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In this case, it's not really sound reasoning, he MAY be posting differently due to various factors. One should not take the place of an item game kill unless he screws up drastically. He can be one of the later kills, or a vigi kill, or a DT target, plenty of choices. | ||
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CubEdIn
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I may be going out on a limb here, but if there are "real" blues out there, they had plenty of time to check their roles and decide to CC. If they haven't so far then they're either keeping it quiet or they simply are on bum's team. Just my 2cents. If someone decides to counter-claim they should do it fast, so that town has enough time to reason their decision and votes. | ||
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CubEdIn
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I agree that lurkers should be outed, and I agree that he should speak. I don't agree that he should be day 1 lynch though. I once almost got mod-killed for not posting during the entire of day 1, and I was town, so I know it can happen.  | ||
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Sorry, nothing to add, but I'm trying to follow-up and this game seems to be going fast so I'm trying to follow-up. Going to bed now. | ||
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I noticed people were saying that maybe we shouldn't go for anyone in the IG. I still we should, and here is why: 1. The 1:3 shot of hitting a red is not that bad. If we combine it with some behavioral analysis, it should even increase slightly (for example, I would be excluding annul and jackal right now, not because I think they're town, but because annul will probably not be killed even if the scum thinks he's "other-team-scum" because they'll be hoping for a town lynch, so we should have at least 2 players left, and jackal will be targeted during the night if he is indeed town and managed to step on some toes - of course, this reasoning fails if annul's team manages to obliterate the entire IG in one shot). 2. So our odds are pretty good, and you are missing the fact that the black in the mafia game can only be killed by our lynch (to the best of our knowledge). Which means that eventually, we'll have to try and lynch someone there anyway, unless we're giving away the items, or some weird sh*t happens. I doubt we'll have a higher chance of hitting the red/black so later if we do not act upon this on the first night. 3. We don't know what's gonna happen during the night. It's insane mafia, and there are two parties who have interest in winning the item game. That means that, with the help of some random events, the whole Item Game could be over in one night. I know it seems unlikely, but it IS a possibility, if you combine mafia KP with Black KP with some vigilante who happens to be in the IG (*cough* Coag's weapon *cough*) or something. We've seen stranger things happen in Insane. So yeah, I know this post is kinda confusing but I need to go so I wrote it kinda fast. Bottom line is, don't underestimate night KPs, at least until we get to see one night. If we go for the assumption that there will be like 3-4 people left in the IG after tonight, and our shot will be 50-50, I think we're blindfolding ourselves. | ||
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