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On March 28 2011 21:52 deconduo wrote:One of the funnier things he's done this game is claim that my roomate, Tack, is Ver's smurf. Considering that this is his first game of forum mafia it was quite a compliment 
lol amazing for sure
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On March 28 2011 21:59 Rean wrote: I love the silence when I ask you to give reasons for your blind tunneling. You really are just randomly gambling and hoping you get lucky, aren't you? I promised 2 out of 3. 1 down 1 to go. Tack is scum. If I got there by hook or by crook or just dumb luck it doesn't really matter. What are your reasons for presenting a multitude of what if scenarios and pointless circular arguments? I have a destination. You have nothing.
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On March 28 2011 22:10 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2011 21:59 Rean wrote: I love the silence when I ask you to give reasons for your blind tunneling. You really are just randomly gambling and hoping you get lucky, aren't you? I promised 2 out of 3. 1 down 1 to go. Tack is scum. If I got there by hook or by crook or just dumb luck it doesn't really matter. What are your reasons for presenting a multitude of what if scenarios and pointless circular arguments? I have a destination. You have nothing.
Who do you think people are going to believe, the guy giving arguments, reasons and explanations as motivation to have Lemon lynched, or the guy blindly tunneling Tackster constantly saying "dw guys, he's defo scum, just trust me" not giving anyone any reason to trust him?
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On March 28 2011 22:20 Rean wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2011 22:10 Jackal58 wrote:On March 28 2011 21:59 Rean wrote: I love the silence when I ask you to give reasons for your blind tunneling. You really are just randomly gambling and hoping you get lucky, aren't you? I promised 2 out of 3. 1 down 1 to go. Tack is scum. If I got there by hook or by crook or just dumb luck it doesn't really matter. What are your reasons for presenting a multitude of what if scenarios and pointless circular arguments? I have a destination. You have nothing. Who do you think people are going to believe, the guy giving arguments, reasons and explanations as motivation to have Lemon lynched, or the guy blindly tunneling Tackster constantly saying "dw guys, he's defo scum, just trust me" not giving anyone any reason to trust him? Coag shot Tackster
Tackster stole my item because he thought it was a gun.
Tackster was protected by a bus driver.
Tackster admits to his theft.
If he were town why would he feel compelled to steal from me?
But this has all been put out there before. Over and over again. You are either terrified of being wrong or scum.
I'm leaning towards scum.
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On March 28 2011 22:25 Jackal58 wrote: Tackster stole my item because he thought it was a gun.
Tackster admits to his theft.
If he were town why would he feel compelled to steal from me?
LOLOL
You say you are going to shoot someone. They can stop it. You are surprised that they do? REALLY?
What did you expect him to do, sit there all happy while you kill him? How is it scummy to TRY TO NOT DIE!
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On March 28 2011 22:30 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2011 22:25 Jackal58 wrote: Tackster stole my item because he thought it was a gun.
Tackster admits to his theft.
If he were town why would he feel compelled to steal from me?
LOLOL You say you are going to shoot someone. They can stop it. You are surprised that they do? REALLY? What did you expect him to do, sit there all happy while you kill him? How is it scummy to TRY TO NOT DIE! It's the fact that he had assistance from a 3rd party to ensure his survival that nails him. I'm really enjoying all you guys outing yourselves.
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On March 28 2011 22:25 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2011 22:20 Rean wrote:On March 28 2011 22:10 Jackal58 wrote:On March 28 2011 21:59 Rean wrote: I love the silence when I ask you to give reasons for your blind tunneling. You really are just randomly gambling and hoping you get lucky, aren't you? I promised 2 out of 3. 1 down 1 to go. Tack is scum. If I got there by hook or by crook or just dumb luck it doesn't really matter. What are your reasons for presenting a multitude of what if scenarios and pointless circular arguments? I have a destination. You have nothing. Who do you think people are going to believe, the guy giving arguments, reasons and explanations as motivation to have Lemon lynched, or the guy blindly tunneling Tackster constantly saying "dw guys, he's defo scum, just trust me" not giving anyone any reason to trust him? Coag shot Tackster Tackster stole my item because he thought it was a gun. Tackster was protected by a bus driver. Tackster admits to his theft. If he were town why would he feel compelled to steal from me? But this has all been put out there before. Over and over again. You are either terrified of being wrong or scum. I'm leaning towards scum.
Regarding the stealing: as both red and green he would have a reason to stay alive. As red because obviously he would want to win his team the item-game. As green because him dying would bring it to a 4 player scenario, where one day lynch and a double night-hit could decide the item game. As town he couldn't have known he was gonna get bussed so he would've assumed that there would still be 5 players.
Conclusion: regardless of Tackster's alignment, he would've stolen your item. Your argument is worthless.
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[haunting voice from beyond the grave] this is almost as much fun as being alive [/haunting voice from beyond the grave]
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On March 28 2011 22:38 Rean wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2011 22:25 Jackal58 wrote:On March 28 2011 22:20 Rean wrote:On March 28 2011 22:10 Jackal58 wrote:On March 28 2011 21:59 Rean wrote: I love the silence when I ask you to give reasons for your blind tunneling. You really are just randomly gambling and hoping you get lucky, aren't you? I promised 2 out of 3. 1 down 1 to go. Tack is scum. If I got there by hook or by crook or just dumb luck it doesn't really matter. What are your reasons for presenting a multitude of what if scenarios and pointless circular arguments? I have a destination. You have nothing. Who do you think people are going to believe, the guy giving arguments, reasons and explanations as motivation to have Lemon lynched, or the guy blindly tunneling Tackster constantly saying "dw guys, he's defo scum, just trust me" not giving anyone any reason to trust him? Coag shot Tackster Tackster stole my item because he thought it was a gun. Tackster was protected by a bus driver. Tackster admits to his theft. If he were town why would he feel compelled to steal from me? But this has all been put out there before. Over and over again. You are either terrified of being wrong or scum. I'm leaning towards scum. Regarding the stealing: as both red and green he would have a reason to stay alive. As red because obviously he would want to win his team the item-game. As green because him dying would bring it to a 4 player scenario, where one day lynch and a double night-hit could decide the item game. As town he couldn't have known he was gonna get bussed so he would've assumed that there would still be 5 players. Conclusion: regardless of Tackster's alignment, he would've stolen your item. Your argument is worthless. If he were town he wouldn't have been bussed. He would have stolen my band aid and coag would have shot him and this whole damn thing would have been over with. But it's actually a good thing to watch and see who continues to defend him.
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On March 28 2011 22:42 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2011 22:38 Rean wrote:On March 28 2011 22:25 Jackal58 wrote:On March 28 2011 22:20 Rean wrote:On March 28 2011 22:10 Jackal58 wrote:On March 28 2011 21:59 Rean wrote: I love the silence when I ask you to give reasons for your blind tunneling. You really are just randomly gambling and hoping you get lucky, aren't you? I promised 2 out of 3. 1 down 1 to go. Tack is scum. If I got there by hook or by crook or just dumb luck it doesn't really matter. What are your reasons for presenting a multitude of what if scenarios and pointless circular arguments? I have a destination. You have nothing. Who do you think people are going to believe, the guy giving arguments, reasons and explanations as motivation to have Lemon lynched, or the guy blindly tunneling Tackster constantly saying "dw guys, he's defo scum, just trust me" not giving anyone any reason to trust him? Coag shot Tackster Tackster stole my item because he thought it was a gun. Tackster was protected by a bus driver. Tackster admits to his theft. If he were town why would he feel compelled to steal from me? But this has all been put out there before. Over and over again. You are either terrified of being wrong or scum. I'm leaning towards scum. Regarding the stealing: as both red and green he would have a reason to stay alive. As red because obviously he would want to win his team the item-game. As green because him dying would bring it to a 4 player scenario, where one day lynch and a double night-hit could decide the item game. As town he couldn't have known he was gonna get bussed so he would've assumed that there would still be 5 players. Conclusion: regardless of Tackster's alignment, he would've stolen your item. Your argument is worthless. If he were town he wouldn't have been bussed. He would have stolen my band aid and coag would have shot him and this whole damn thing would have been over with. But it's actually a good thing to watch and see who continues to defend him.
Why not? Pretend Tack is town and Lemon is the mafia. WHAT WOULD MAFIA DO?
Don't avoid this question in any way. Just give me your honest opinion on what mafia would do.
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On March 28 2011 22:38 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2011 22:30 deconduo wrote:On March 28 2011 22:25 Jackal58 wrote: Tackster stole my item because he thought it was a gun.
Tackster admits to his theft.
If he were town why would he feel compelled to steal from me?
LOLOL You say you are going to shoot someone. They can stop it. You are surprised that they do? REALLY? What did you expect him to do, sit there all happy while you kill him? How is it scummy to TRY TO NOT DIE! It's the fact that he had assistance from a 3rd party to ensure his survival that nails him. I'm really enjoying all you guys outing yourselves.
Ok. Let's, for a second, imagine you're Lemonwalrus.
You're mafia. You know this. Your only purpose in this game is to win your team the item-game, so obviously that's what you do.
You know Jackal and Coagulation trust each other to be town. You've tricked both of them into thinking you're town (lord knows how), they're gonna shoot Tackster. They told Tackster that Jackal has a gun and he's gonna shoot Tackster with it, while Coagulation actually has the gun. You know this, because again, you have their trust. Annul got tricked by RoL into revealing he's town. So once Tackster dies and flips green, you know you're fucked.
So you consult your mafia buddy's and make a plan. You bus Annul and Tackster, killing off Annul, keeping Tackster alive. Jackal and Coagulation will obviously blame Tackster, saying he had his buddies bus him away. If they get him lynched, it's down to a 3 man scenario at night, and since the only medic item is in the hands of Tackster, you can just kill both Jackal and Coagulation and it's game over, mafia wins the item game.
The only problem left is DT checks. Since you obviously didn't elect your Godfather into the item-game (since he's guaranteed to die, and you need the Godfather to be able to win after the item-game), you decide to use the role-reversal of your teammate on yourself. Boom, DT will just check himself, and that problem is solved.
The only mistake Lemon made was claiming that his item worked without being used, which does NOT fit in with every other item in this game, and is obviously a bullshit claim.
You're walking blindly into his trap, Jackal.
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On March 28 2011 22:44 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2011 22:42 Jackal58 wrote:On March 28 2011 22:38 Rean wrote:On March 28 2011 22:25 Jackal58 wrote:On March 28 2011 22:20 Rean wrote:On March 28 2011 22:10 Jackal58 wrote:On March 28 2011 21:59 Rean wrote: I love the silence when I ask you to give reasons for your blind tunneling. You really are just randomly gambling and hoping you get lucky, aren't you? I promised 2 out of 3. 1 down 1 to go. Tack is scum. If I got there by hook or by crook or just dumb luck it doesn't really matter. What are your reasons for presenting a multitude of what if scenarios and pointless circular arguments? I have a destination. You have nothing. Who do you think people are going to believe, the guy giving arguments, reasons and explanations as motivation to have Lemon lynched, or the guy blindly tunneling Tackster constantly saying "dw guys, he's defo scum, just trust me" not giving anyone any reason to trust him? Coag shot Tackster Tackster stole my item because he thought it was a gun. Tackster was protected by a bus driver. Tackster admits to his theft. If he were town why would he feel compelled to steal from me? But this has all been put out there before. Over and over again. You are either terrified of being wrong or scum. I'm leaning towards scum. Regarding the stealing: as both red and green he would have a reason to stay alive. As red because obviously he would want to win his team the item-game. As green because him dying would bring it to a 4 player scenario, where one day lynch and a double night-hit could decide the item game. As town he couldn't have known he was gonna get bussed so he would've assumed that there would still be 5 players. Conclusion: regardless of Tackster's alignment, he would've stolen your item. Your argument is worthless. If he were town he wouldn't have been bussed. He would have stolen my band aid and coag would have shot him and this whole damn thing would have been over with. But it's actually a good thing to watch and see who continues to defend him. Why not? Pretend Tack is town and Lemon is the mafia. WHAT WOULD MAFIA DO? Don't avoid this question in any way. Just give me your honest opinion on what mafia would do. Let me shoot tack. Then I get lynched.
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I shall now proceed to go to the store, looking forward to reading more of your crap, Jackal.
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On March 28 2011 22:50 Rean wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2011 22:38 Jackal58 wrote:On March 28 2011 22:30 deconduo wrote:On March 28 2011 22:25 Jackal58 wrote: Tackster stole my item because he thought it was a gun.
Tackster admits to his theft.
If he were town why would he feel compelled to steal from me?
LOLOL You say you are going to shoot someone. They can stop it. You are surprised that they do? REALLY? What did you expect him to do, sit there all happy while you kill him? How is it scummy to TRY TO NOT DIE! It's the fact that he had assistance from a 3rd party to ensure his survival that nails him. I'm really enjoying all you guys outing yourselves. Ok. Let's, for a second, imagine you're Lemonwalrus. You're mafia. You know this. Your only purpose in this game is to win your team the item-game, so obviously that's what you do. You know Jackal and Coagulation trust each other to be town. You've tricked both of them into thinking you're town (lord knows how), they're gonna shoot Tackster. They told Tackster that Jackal has a gun and he's gonna shoot Tackster with it, while Coagulation actually has the gun. You know this, because again, you have their trust. Annul got tricked by RoL into revealing he's town. So once Tackster dies and flips green, you know you're fucked. So you consult your mafia buddy's and make a plan. You bus Annul and Tackster, killing off Annul, keeping Tackster alive. Jackal and Coagulation will obviously blame Tackster, saying he had his buddies bus him away. If they get him lynched, it's down to a 3 man scenario at night, and since the only medic item is in the hands of Tackster, you can just kill both Jackal and Coagulation and it's game over, mafia wins the item game. The only problem left is DT checks. Since you obviously didn't elect your Godfather into the item-game (since he's guaranteed to die, and you need the Godfather to be able to win after the item-game), you decide to use the role-reversal of your teammate on yourself. Boom, DT will just check himself, and that problem is solved. The only mistake Lemon made was claiming that his item worked without being used, which does NOT fit in with every other item in this game, and is obviously a bullshit claim.You're walking blindly into his trap, Jackal.
Show me where he made that claim. Seriously. I want to see it.
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Whoops, Day post has been updated. Annul also held onto the mood ring
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On March 28 2011 17:05 Coagulation wrote: Also my gun is the town KP I was referred to the town KP in the OP by LSB himself in PM when asking him questions about my abilities after i got my role. I wasn't trying to discredit you, but in insane mafia one of the most important things is actually understanding what happened and understanding our limits. The reason I said you weren't guaranteed a KP was your gun can be stolen. I still don't think it makes sense that anything within the IG would count definitely toward town in the OP though, especially since he RNG'd it, which means if your gun gets stolen should it add to mafia/black KP hypothetically? If LSB wasn't truly RNGing it then we can infer that whatever someones power in might infer their alignment.
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You just add that to fuck with us?
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On March 28 2011 23:14 Jackal58 wrote: You just add that to fuck with us? EBWOP That was to LSB.
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On March 28 2011 17:30 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2011 17:30 Coagulation wrote: bum did you even stop to consider that he could be targeted for a role reversal? I don't think role reversal works that way... I have seen this mentioned in the past two games, I just want to point out that I completely made up that mechanic for my game to try to deter blind claims. The odds of it actually being used by another host are really low. This make might be the exception to that, but you also have to understand that since the mechanic isn't readily defined it's hard to know what LSB would man by it. To expand on that, when I was creating the role in XXXVII it was hard to come up with balanced ways people could be "reversed" so to speak, and that was with standard roles. I can't imagine how LSB could implement a role reverser even close to similar to what mine was. Just think, how the hell would that reverse a Hot Potato? LSB would literally have to think of every possible instance of it's use to ensure the role isn't retarded or pointless and I can't see that being feasible.
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