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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 28 2011 13:02 GMT
#2381
On March 28 2011 21:52 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 21:46 Ace wrote:
Jackal you should tunnel deconduo next


One of the funnier things he's done this game is claim that my roomate, Tack, is Ver's smurf. Considering that this is his first game of forum mafia it was quite a compliment


lol amazing for sure
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 28 2011 13:10 GMT
#2382
On March 28 2011 21:59 Rean wrote:
I love the silence when I ask you to give reasons for your blind tunneling. You really are just randomly gambling and hoping you get lucky, aren't you?

I promised 2 out of 3. 1 down 1 to go. Tack is scum. If I got there by hook or by crook or just dumb luck it doesn't really matter. What are your reasons for presenting a multitude of what if scenarios and pointless circular arguments? I have a destination. You have nothing.
Life can only kill you once.
Rean
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands808 Posts
March 28 2011 13:20 GMT
#2383
On March 28 2011 22:10 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 21:59 Rean wrote:
I love the silence when I ask you to give reasons for your blind tunneling. You really are just randomly gambling and hoping you get lucky, aren't you?

I promised 2 out of 3. 1 down 1 to go. Tack is scum. If I got there by hook or by crook or just dumb luck it doesn't really matter. What are your reasons for presenting a multitude of what if scenarios and pointless circular arguments? I have a destination. You have nothing.


Who do you think people are going to believe, the guy giving arguments, reasons and explanations as motivation to have Lemon lynched, or the guy blindly tunneling Tackster constantly saying "dw guys, he's defo scum, just trust me" not giving anyone any reason to trust him?
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 28 2011 13:25 GMT
#2384
On March 28 2011 22:20 Rean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 22:10 Jackal58 wrote:
On March 28 2011 21:59 Rean wrote:
I love the silence when I ask you to give reasons for your blind tunneling. You really are just randomly gambling and hoping you get lucky, aren't you?

I promised 2 out of 3. 1 down 1 to go. Tack is scum. If I got there by hook or by crook or just dumb luck it doesn't really matter. What are your reasons for presenting a multitude of what if scenarios and pointless circular arguments? I have a destination. You have nothing.


Who do you think people are going to believe, the guy giving arguments, reasons and explanations as motivation to have Lemon lynched, or the guy blindly tunneling Tackster constantly saying "dw guys, he's defo scum, just trust me" not giving anyone any reason to trust him?

Coag shot Tackster

Tackster stole my item because he thought it was a gun.

Tackster was protected by a bus driver.

Tackster admits to his theft.

If he were town why would he feel compelled to steal from me?

But this has all been put out there before. Over and over again.
You are either terrified of being wrong or scum.

I'm leaning towards scum.
Life can only kill you once.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 28 2011 13:30 GMT
#2385
On March 28 2011 22:25 Jackal58 wrote:
Tackster stole my item because he thought it was a gun.

Tackster admits to his theft.

If he were town why would he feel compelled to steal from me?


LOLOL

You say you are going to shoot someone. They can stop it. You are surprised that they do? REALLY?

What did you expect him to do, sit there all happy while you kill him? How is it scummy to TRY TO NOT DIE!
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 28 2011 13:38 GMT
#2386
On March 28 2011 22:30 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 22:25 Jackal58 wrote:
Tackster stole my item because he thought it was a gun.

Tackster admits to his theft.

If he were town why would he feel compelled to steal from me?


LOLOL

You say you are going to shoot someone. They can stop it. You are surprised that they do? REALLY?

What did you expect him to do, sit there all happy while you kill him? How is it scummy to TRY TO NOT DIE!

It's the fact that he had assistance from a 3rd party to ensure his survival that nails him.
I'm really enjoying all you guys outing yourselves.
Life can only kill you once.
Rean
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands808 Posts
March 28 2011 13:38 GMT
#2387
On March 28 2011 22:25 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 22:20 Rean wrote:
On March 28 2011 22:10 Jackal58 wrote:
On March 28 2011 21:59 Rean wrote:
I love the silence when I ask you to give reasons for your blind tunneling. You really are just randomly gambling and hoping you get lucky, aren't you?

I promised 2 out of 3. 1 down 1 to go. Tack is scum. If I got there by hook or by crook or just dumb luck it doesn't really matter. What are your reasons for presenting a multitude of what if scenarios and pointless circular arguments? I have a destination. You have nothing.


Who do you think people are going to believe, the guy giving arguments, reasons and explanations as motivation to have Lemon lynched, or the guy blindly tunneling Tackster constantly saying "dw guys, he's defo scum, just trust me" not giving anyone any reason to trust him?

Coag shot Tackster

Tackster stole my item because he thought it was a gun.

Tackster was protected by a bus driver.

Tackster admits to his theft.

If he were town why would he feel compelled to steal from me?

But this has all been put out there before. Over and over again.
You are either terrified of being wrong or scum.

I'm leaning towards scum.


Regarding the stealing: as both red and green he would have a reason to stay alive. As red because obviously he would want to win his team the item-game. As green because him dying would bring it to a 4 player scenario, where one day lynch and a double night-hit could decide the item game. As town he couldn't have known he was gonna get bussed so he would've assumed that there would still be 5 players.

Conclusion: regardless of Tackster's alignment, he would've stolen your item. Your argument is worthless.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 28 2011 13:39 GMT
#2388
[haunting voice from beyond the grave] this is almost as much fun as being alive [/haunting voice from beyond the grave]
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 28 2011 13:42 GMT
#2389
On March 28 2011 22:38 Rean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 22:25 Jackal58 wrote:
On March 28 2011 22:20 Rean wrote:
On March 28 2011 22:10 Jackal58 wrote:
On March 28 2011 21:59 Rean wrote:
I love the silence when I ask you to give reasons for your blind tunneling. You really are just randomly gambling and hoping you get lucky, aren't you?

I promised 2 out of 3. 1 down 1 to go. Tack is scum. If I got there by hook or by crook or just dumb luck it doesn't really matter. What are your reasons for presenting a multitude of what if scenarios and pointless circular arguments? I have a destination. You have nothing.


Who do you think people are going to believe, the guy giving arguments, reasons and explanations as motivation to have Lemon lynched, or the guy blindly tunneling Tackster constantly saying "dw guys, he's defo scum, just trust me" not giving anyone any reason to trust him?

Coag shot Tackster

Tackster stole my item because he thought it was a gun.

Tackster was protected by a bus driver.

Tackster admits to his theft.

If he were town why would he feel compelled to steal from me?

But this has all been put out there before. Over and over again.
You are either terrified of being wrong or scum.

I'm leaning towards scum.


Regarding the stealing: as both red and green he would have a reason to stay alive. As red because obviously he would want to win his team the item-game. As green because him dying would bring it to a 4 player scenario, where one day lynch and a double night-hit could decide the item game. As town he couldn't have known he was gonna get bussed so he would've assumed that there would still be 5 players.

Conclusion: regardless of Tackster's alignment, he would've stolen your item. Your argument is worthless.

If he were town he wouldn't have been bussed.
He would have stolen my band aid and coag would have shot him and this whole damn thing would have been over with.
But it's actually a good thing to watch and see who continues to defend him.
Life can only kill you once.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 28 2011 13:44 GMT
#2390
On March 28 2011 22:42 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 22:38 Rean wrote:
On March 28 2011 22:25 Jackal58 wrote:
On March 28 2011 22:20 Rean wrote:
On March 28 2011 22:10 Jackal58 wrote:
On March 28 2011 21:59 Rean wrote:
I love the silence when I ask you to give reasons for your blind tunneling. You really are just randomly gambling and hoping you get lucky, aren't you?

I promised 2 out of 3. 1 down 1 to go. Tack is scum. If I got there by hook or by crook or just dumb luck it doesn't really matter. What are your reasons for presenting a multitude of what if scenarios and pointless circular arguments? I have a destination. You have nothing.


Who do you think people are going to believe, the guy giving arguments, reasons and explanations as motivation to have Lemon lynched, or the guy blindly tunneling Tackster constantly saying "dw guys, he's defo scum, just trust me" not giving anyone any reason to trust him?

Coag shot Tackster

Tackster stole my item because he thought it was a gun.

Tackster was protected by a bus driver.

Tackster admits to his theft.

If he were town why would he feel compelled to steal from me?

But this has all been put out there before. Over and over again.
You are either terrified of being wrong or scum.

I'm leaning towards scum.


Regarding the stealing: as both red and green he would have a reason to stay alive. As red because obviously he would want to win his team the item-game. As green because him dying would bring it to a 4 player scenario, where one day lynch and a double night-hit could decide the item game. As town he couldn't have known he was gonna get bussed so he would've assumed that there would still be 5 players.

Conclusion: regardless of Tackster's alignment, he would've stolen your item. Your argument is worthless.

If he were town he wouldn't have been bussed.
He would have stolen my band aid and coag would have shot him and this whole damn thing would have been over with.
But it's actually a good thing to watch and see who continues to defend him.


Why not? Pretend Tack is town and Lemon is the mafia. WHAT WOULD MAFIA DO?

Don't avoid this question in any way. Just give me your honest opinion on what mafia would do.
Rean
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands808 Posts
March 28 2011 13:50 GMT
#2391
On March 28 2011 22:38 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 22:30 deconduo wrote:
On March 28 2011 22:25 Jackal58 wrote:
Tackster stole my item because he thought it was a gun.

Tackster admits to his theft.

If he were town why would he feel compelled to steal from me?


LOLOL

You say you are going to shoot someone. They can stop it. You are surprised that they do? REALLY?

What did you expect him to do, sit there all happy while you kill him? How is it scummy to TRY TO NOT DIE!

It's the fact that he had assistance from a 3rd party to ensure his survival that nails him.
I'm really enjoying all you guys outing yourselves.


Ok. Let's, for a second, imagine you're Lemonwalrus.

You're mafia. You know this. Your only purpose in this game is to win your team the item-game, so obviously that's what you do.

You know Jackal and Coagulation trust each other to be town. You've tricked both of them into thinking you're town (lord knows how), they're gonna shoot Tackster. They told Tackster that Jackal has a gun and he's gonna shoot Tackster with it, while Coagulation actually has the gun. You know this, because again, you have their trust. Annul got tricked by RoL into revealing he's town. So once Tackster dies and flips green, you know you're fucked.

So you consult your mafia buddy's and make a plan. You bus Annul and Tackster, killing off Annul, keeping Tackster alive. Jackal and Coagulation will obviously blame Tackster, saying he had his buddies bus him away. If they get him lynched, it's down to a 3 man scenario at night, and since the only medic item is in the hands of Tackster, you can just kill both Jackal and Coagulation and it's game over, mafia wins the item game.

The only problem left is DT checks. Since you obviously didn't elect your Godfather into the item-game (since he's guaranteed to die, and you need the Godfather to be able to win after the item-game), you decide to use the role-reversal of your teammate on yourself. Boom, DT will just check himself, and that problem is solved.

The only mistake Lemon made was claiming that his item worked without being used, which does NOT fit in with every other item in this game, and is obviously a bullshit claim.

You're walking blindly into his trap, Jackal.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 28 2011 13:50 GMT
#2392
On March 28 2011 22:44 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 22:42 Jackal58 wrote:
On March 28 2011 22:38 Rean wrote:
On March 28 2011 22:25 Jackal58 wrote:
On March 28 2011 22:20 Rean wrote:
On March 28 2011 22:10 Jackal58 wrote:
On March 28 2011 21:59 Rean wrote:
I love the silence when I ask you to give reasons for your blind tunneling. You really are just randomly gambling and hoping you get lucky, aren't you?

I promised 2 out of 3. 1 down 1 to go. Tack is scum. If I got there by hook or by crook or just dumb luck it doesn't really matter. What are your reasons for presenting a multitude of what if scenarios and pointless circular arguments? I have a destination. You have nothing.


Who do you think people are going to believe, the guy giving arguments, reasons and explanations as motivation to have Lemon lynched, or the guy blindly tunneling Tackster constantly saying "dw guys, he's defo scum, just trust me" not giving anyone any reason to trust him?

Coag shot Tackster

Tackster stole my item because he thought it was a gun.

Tackster was protected by a bus driver.

Tackster admits to his theft.

If he were town why would he feel compelled to steal from me?

But this has all been put out there before. Over and over again.
You are either terrified of being wrong or scum.

I'm leaning towards scum.


Regarding the stealing: as both red and green he would have a reason to stay alive. As red because obviously he would want to win his team the item-game. As green because him dying would bring it to a 4 player scenario, where one day lynch and a double night-hit could decide the item game. As town he couldn't have known he was gonna get bussed so he would've assumed that there would still be 5 players.

Conclusion: regardless of Tackster's alignment, he would've stolen your item. Your argument is worthless.

If he were town he wouldn't have been bussed.
He would have stolen my band aid and coag would have shot him and this whole damn thing would have been over with.
But it's actually a good thing to watch and see who continues to defend him.


Why not? Pretend Tack is town and Lemon is the mafia. WHAT WOULD MAFIA DO?

Don't avoid this question in any way. Just give me your honest opinion on what mafia would do.

Let me shoot tack. Then I get lynched.
Life can only kill you once.
Rean
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands808 Posts
March 28 2011 13:50 GMT
#2393
I shall now proceed to go to the store, looking forward to reading more of your crap, Jackal.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 28 2011 13:52 GMT
#2394
On March 28 2011 22:50 Rean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 22:38 Jackal58 wrote:
On March 28 2011 22:30 deconduo wrote:
On March 28 2011 22:25 Jackal58 wrote:
Tackster stole my item because he thought it was a gun.

Tackster admits to his theft.

If he were town why would he feel compelled to steal from me?


LOLOL

You say you are going to shoot someone. They can stop it. You are surprised that they do? REALLY?

What did you expect him to do, sit there all happy while you kill him? How is it scummy to TRY TO NOT DIE!

It's the fact that he had assistance from a 3rd party to ensure his survival that nails him.
I'm really enjoying all you guys outing yourselves.


Ok. Let's, for a second, imagine you're Lemonwalrus.

You're mafia. You know this. Your only purpose in this game is to win your team the item-game, so obviously that's what you do.

You know Jackal and Coagulation trust each other to be town. You've tricked both of them into thinking you're town (lord knows how), they're gonna shoot Tackster. They told Tackster that Jackal has a gun and he's gonna shoot Tackster with it, while Coagulation actually has the gun. You know this, because again, you have their trust. Annul got tricked by RoL into revealing he's town. So once Tackster dies and flips green, you know you're fucked.

So you consult your mafia buddy's and make a plan. You bus Annul and Tackster, killing off Annul, keeping Tackster alive. Jackal and Coagulation will obviously blame Tackster, saying he had his buddies bus him away. If they get him lynched, it's down to a 3 man scenario at night, and since the only medic item is in the hands of Tackster, you can just kill both Jackal and Coagulation and it's game over, mafia wins the item game.

The only problem left is DT checks. Since you obviously didn't elect your Godfather into the item-game (since he's guaranteed to die, and you need the Godfather to be able to win after the item-game), you decide to use the role-reversal of your teammate on yourself. Boom, DT will just check himself, and that problem is solved.

The only mistake Lemon made was claiming that his item worked without being used, which does NOT fit in with every other item in this game, and is obviously a bullshit claim.

You're walking blindly into his trap, Jackal.


Show me where he made that claim. Seriously. I want to see it.
Life can only kill you once.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
March 28 2011 13:56 GMT
#2395
Whoops, Day post has been updated. Annul also held onto the mood ring
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 28 2011 14:12 GMT
#2396
What mood ring?
Life can only kill you once.
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
March 28 2011 14:13 GMT
#2397
On March 28 2011 17:05 Coagulation wrote:
Also my gun is the town KP
I was referred to the town KP in the OP by LSB himself in PM when asking him questions about my abilities after i got my role.

I wasn't trying to discredit you, but in insane mafia one of the most important things is actually understanding what happened and understanding our limits. The reason I said you weren't guaranteed a KP was your gun can be stolen. I still don't think it makes sense that anything within the IG would count definitely toward town in the OP though, especially since he RNG'd it, which means if your gun gets stolen should it add to mafia/black KP hypothetically? If LSB wasn't truly RNGing it then we can infer that whatever someones power in might infer their alignment.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 28 2011 14:14 GMT
#2398
You just add that to fuck with us?
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 28 2011 14:15 GMT
#2399
On March 28 2011 23:14 Jackal58 wrote:
You just add that to fuck with us?

EBWOP
That was to LSB.
Life can only kill you once.
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
March 28 2011 14:19 GMT
#2400
On March 28 2011 17:30 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 17:30 Coagulation wrote:
bum did you even stop to consider that he could be targeted for a role reversal?


I don't think role reversal works that way...

I have seen this mentioned in the past two games, I just want to point out that I completely made up that mechanic for my game to try to deter blind claims. The odds of it actually being used by another host are really low. This make might be the exception to that, but you also have to understand that since the mechanic isn't readily defined it's hard to know what LSB would man by it. To expand on that, when I was creating the role in XXXVII it was hard to come up with balanced ways people could be "reversed" so to speak, and that was with standard roles. I can't imagine how LSB could implement a role reverser even close to similar to what mine was. Just think, how the hell would that reverse a Hot Potato? LSB would literally have to think of every possible instance of it's use to ensure the role isn't retarded or pointless and I can't see that being feasible.
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