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LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 16 2011 19:52 GMT
#13
/in

also:

Can blue role or mafia suicide bomb?

LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 16 2011 21:54 GMT
#26
STARTTTTTT
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 22:29:48
February 16 2011 22:29 GMT
#28
Stupid me...
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 16 2011 22:32 GMT
#31
Time to draw first blood.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 16 2011 22:35 GMT
#32
On February 17 2011 07:31 Incognito wrote:
I predict:

Day 1 Fanatic suicides another fanatic. Night 1 mafia shoots fanatic. LYLO.

So isn't 3 mafia in 11 player game imba?
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 16 2011 22:44 GMT
#36
I played a game with similar setup. Bang Bang Mafia. Also happened to be the only game where I am mafia (DLYM is reverse so it doesn't count).

20 players, 4 mafia, 1 SK.
Major difference is vanilla townie and godfather got guns. Only one person can shoot per day, no consective shot from same person, and they don't die after shooting.

Basically town just destroyed itself by bad shooting.

I just feel mafia got the advantage.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 16 2011 22:46 GMT
#38
On February 17 2011 07:41 Ace wrote:
nice setup! Good luck lynching any fanatics though!

oops did I reveal a strategy there!

Town: AUTO LYNCH COAG!!!.
Coag: BUT I AM FANATIC!!!
Town: BLOW SOMEONE UP!!!

BOOOOOOM.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 16 2011 22:47 GMT
#40
On February 17 2011 07:46 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 07:42 Amber[LighT] wrote:
On February 17 2011 07:41 Ace wrote:
nice setup! Good luck lynching any fanatics though!

oops did I reveal a strategy there!


After the first suspect blows himself up suspect no. 2 (who will also be a fanatic) will have to be lynched


If the first suspect is a fanatic why wouldn't he just blow up suspect #2

Or why not everyone roleclaim on Day 1 :D

DAY 1 ROLE CLAIM:
I am fanatic x 11
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 17 2011 01:14 GMT
#52
Poll: What will be the outcome?

Town kills itself (6)
 
50%

Mod screwup deciding the game (3)
 
25%

Brilliant victory by mafia (2)
 
17%

Brilliant victory by town (1)
 
8%

12 total votes

Your vote: What will be the outcome?

(Vote): Brilliant victory by town
(Vote): Brilliant victory by mafia
(Vote): Town kills itself
(Vote): Mod screwup deciding the game

LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 17 2011 01:41 GMT
#59
On February 17 2011 10:40 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 10:23 LSB wrote:
Remember guys, it's a suicide bomb!

Its two kp for the price of one! what a great deal!

Or what I call "Triple Lynch"
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 17 2011 02:31 GMT
#81
In the last two games that Coag played: Orgah Mafia and XXXVI, he really shaped up his game (he actually tried analyzing. Now he revert to his old self. I thought he decided to played serious from then on.

Huge suspicion on him.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 17 2011 03:14 GMT
#87
Coag, I am waiting for your response.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 17 2011 21:12 GMT
#134
Looking back what happened after my suspicion post on Coag.

Coag:
Didn't reply immediately. In other games, he will reply very fast (even if the reply is simple and meaningless). I am worried about that he was away so he didn't see my post. Again, I wanted to point out that Coag improved his game and actually tried to do analysis. I will be expecting in the future those if Coag is town.

GMarshal:
He is the first one to defend Coag and his defense came only 7 minutes after. He then asked and tried to generate discussions. Looking back at his last 2 games (orpah and XXXVI), he plays similar style. Although we don't know his alignment in orpah, he post a lot in both games. This explain why he reponse to my post immediately.

chaoser:

He questioned that I broke the ice but I don't get how that can be used against me.

And the later part of this quote doesn't make sense at all. If we don't lynch, mafia will just use nightkill and take out one of us.
lol...we always choose him...What do you guys think about if someone is bombed before lynch then we don't lynch that day? Think that makes sense right?
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 17 2011 23:16 GMT
#143
On February 18 2011 07:48 Coagulation wrote:
GO AHEAD. SAY DAY 1 POLICY LYNCH COAG I DARE YA. MAKE MY DAY.

I was waiting for Coag to post this. When he is town and gets lynch early, he goes berserk and say something like coag auto lynch.

@Barundar

Bolding names is just making it easier for the eye.

It's a weak FoS, and what does it have to do with what happened since your last post? You end up sounding like you aren't really suspecious of him anyways?

It is to see Coag's reaction. Coag did changed his playstyle when he was town. I want to see if Coag would lurk and ignore my post, OMGUS post right at me, or explain why am I wrong.

No mafia is so obvious as to defend their team mate straight off. Why is it relevant to explain why he responds to you immediately?

This is to say even if Coag is mafia, Gmarshall can not be concluded as mafia because he defended Coag since it is his style to be active in games.

I won't comment on Chaoser's part because he hasn't respond to me what he mean by we should lynch after bombing. And I don't want people answering the question from him. I want to know the original thought in his post.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 18 2011 20:27 GMT
#170
Chaoser is deep shit now. Three people voted for him (two people mistyped).

Well, here is my challenge to you, Chaoser. Suicide (if you can) to the person you think is scum If you can't I am going to blow you. Either way, town will get information on the lynch with additional 24 hours.

I will blow you after 7:00 KST (1.5 hour from now).
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 18 2011 21:47 GMT
#186
I am back and expecting Chaoser to blow someone or I will blow him.

Will answer some questions.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 18 2011 21:48 GMT
#189
Are you going to blow someone. If not, I can blow early.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 18 2011 21:49 GMT
#191
##Kill: chaoser
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 18 2011 21:52 GMT
#193
Why I use this method:

I don't like the notion that town dismissed getting the lynch person to not blow someone and just take the lynch. This game has 11 players and 3 mafia.What mafia fear the most, being forced to suicide someone and they will try convincing town to not suicide because it will soon be MisLynch and lose.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 18 2011 21:55 GMT
#196
I also played a game similar to this and that was the only time that I am truly mafia (DLYM is reversed).

There, what we feared most is being forced to shoot as 3 of the 4 of us can't shoot. On day3, someone actually called me out. Lucky I was godfather there and can shoot. But if I was not the godfather there, there goes a mafia.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 18 2011 22:07 GMT
#201
On February 19 2011 06:57 chaoser wrote:
Either way we both dead so I guess that's two green down if that's what you actually think and the actual reason you forced me to blow up -_-

So you think a mafia to go this far to get someone killed? I could have just bangwagon you on instead.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 18 2011 22:10 GMT
#204
On February 19 2011 07:09 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2011 07:07 LunarDestiny wrote:
On February 19 2011 06:57 chaoser wrote:
Either way we both dead so I guess that's two green down if that's what you actually think and the actual reason you forced me to blow up -_-

So you think a mafia to go this far to get someone killed? I could have just bangwagon you on instead.


Either way it was a bad blowup...If you had said that before hand I would have blown someone else up, I didn't even want to target you, could have just left you up to lynches.

On February 19 2011 05:27 LunarDestiny wrote:
Chaoser is deep shit now. Three people voted for him (two people mistyped).

Well, here is my challenge to you, Chaoser. Suicide (if you can) to the person you think is scum If you can't I am going to blow you. Either way, town will get information on the lynch with additional 24 hours.

I will blow you after 7:00 KST (1.5 hour from now).

LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 18 2011 22:14 GMT
#207
Again, I don't want you to be lynched without suiciding if you are town. Also, if you are mafia, you won't be able to suicide and that will confirm you as mafia.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 18 2011 22:19 GMT
#210
On February 19 2011 07:17 GMarshal wrote:
##vote no lynch
so after we said time and time again that you should not detonate unless you are 100% sure people go and blow themselves up... I thought we agreed that that was really bad for the town? At least it looks like neither of you are medics

Mafia don't want to force called out and force to suicide.

Prefering Lynch over Suicide is what mafia wants.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 18 2011 22:24 GMT
#212
Not dead until LSB post the result. I will miss my bus and wait another extra hour...
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 18 2011 22:33 GMT
#215
On February 19 2011 07:28 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2011 07:19 LunarDestiny wrote:
On February 19 2011 07:17 GMarshal wrote:
##vote no lynch
so after we said time and time again that you should not detonate unless you are 100% sure people go and blow themselves up... I thought we agreed that that was really bad for the town? At least it looks like neither of you are medics

Mafia don't want to force called out and force to suicide.

Prefering Lynch over Suicide is what mafia wants.


I dislike your approach to this, the way I see it we should be playing this just like a regular mafia game with the caveat that if we know for sure someone is scum we can off them immediately, as in regular mafia games our goal is to stay alive as long as possible to gather information and hunt scum, blowing each other up goes against this goal. So congratulations, this gave us very little information and cost us two nights of active scum hunting as well as two kp which we could of saved for people we were more certain were scum.

Mafia isn't scared of being "forced" to suicide, because we have no way of forcing anyone to do anything, a good townie would have let himself die while trying to point out who scum is, once he died an was verified we would have a vote list to look at, now mafia has the upper hand, we need to be very active with our scum hunting, as we cannot afford any more stupid mistakes

Look, I just force a player to suicide. If chaoser was mafia, he can't do it (DON'T SAY: Well, chaoser is town so your point is invalid).

Look at Ace's advice:
On February 17 2011 07:49 Ace wrote:
medic should role claim. Everyone else claims fanatic. Start the game.

As lynch deadline approaches the person with the most votes prove their town by killing the second suspect. If both flip town you were on the wrong track anyway. Otherwise you go into Day 2 with better odds.

So Ace's advice is bad because he thinks Fanatic if being on verge of lynched should use his suicide ability?
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 18 2011 22:36 GMT
#218
People, after I died. Look at Gmarshall's last post.

He basically say:
-Play this like regular mafia game and don't suicide unless you are pretty damn sure.
-Mafia isn't scared about being forced to suicide.
-Town can't afford any more mistake.
-Hinting not to use suicide ever again if not very certain.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 18 2011 22:40 GMT
#221
We can not play this like a regular mafia game and only use suicide if we are almost certain.

11player, 1 medic, 3 mafia. This setup is imbalance and mafia will win most of the time.

Giving vanilla townie the ability to bomb is the balancer to the game. If town hesitate to do anything, mafia holds the advantage.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 18 2011 22:49 GMT
#225
Lurkers: This setup makes lurkers want to lurk more. They ARE afraid of being called out and ARE very afraid to be forced to shoot.

Those who promote Lynch over Suicide scummy.

Also, suicide is not like vig shot. Every vanilla townie can suicide, mafia can not. Use this point to hunt mafia and those who say suicide is bad are scummy.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 18 2011 22:56 GMT
#230
On February 19 2011 07:52 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2011 07:49 LunarDestiny wrote:
Lurkers: This setup makes lurkers want to lurk more. They ARE afraid of being called out and ARE very afraid to be forced to shoot.

Those who promote Lynch over Suicide scummy.

Also, suicide is not like vig shot. Every vanilla townie can suicide, mafia can not. Use this point to hunt mafia and those who say suicide is bad are scummy.


Or everyone contributes but mafia just would contribute in an unhelpful way. And by that logic shouldn't you have blown up a lurker and not me? Coag hasn't posted a single useful thing but can get by with a "that's just the way he is" while me playing my normal game makes it mean "he's mafia"? Retarded...

I was forcing you to blow up someone who you think is mafia. Not me. You blew me.

If I am mafia, why did I expose myself. I could have easily post something not in favor of you and vote you. There's 4 votes right there.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 18 2011 23:03 GMT
#234
Reference game right here: Link

As Mafia:
-NightKill is King. Use it every night to take town out.
-Never volunteered to shoot.
-Mafia without gun lurked like HELL.
-Survival is key.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 20 2011 05:11 GMT
#370
NO LYNCH IS LAME. DROP DA BOMB!
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 21 2011 02:38 GMT
#391
LOL. Mafia just told Jackal to shut up.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 21 2011 02:55 GMT
#407
And I thought I was reckless for calling chaoser out. Coag topped me by ambush bombing.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 21 2011 02:57 GMT
#412
On February 17 2011 10:14 LunarDestiny wrote:
Poll: What will be the outcome?

Town kills itself (6)
 
50%

Mod screwup deciding the game (3)
 
25%

Brilliant victory by mafia (2)
 
17%

Brilliant victory by town (1)
 
8%

12 total votes

Your vote: What will be the outcome?

(Vote): Brilliant victory by town
(Vote): Brilliant victory by mafia
(Vote): Town kills itself
(Vote): Mod screwup deciding the game


LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 21 2011 03:06 GMT
#429
On February 21 2011 12:04 Coagulation wrote:
Welcome to failville
population: Coagulation

Explain why you bombed GGQ?
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 21 2011 03:11 GMT
#433
On February 21 2011 12:09 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2011 12:00 GMarshal wrote:
well fastest game of mafia I've ever played, you should have gone for Amber...

wp mafia team!

Had! This is the 2nd fastest game I hosted!
Merc Micro Mafia took 72:00 hrs
This took 72:44 hrs

Ironically, I was also the first person to died that game because I took the fail vest. That game went downhill then on.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 21 2011 03:22 GMT
#449
On February 21 2011 12:19 kitaman27 wrote:
What? Its possible for Amber to be mafia? My strategy of assuming he is town every game is ruined

I also thought about this logic:

In XXXVI, LSB advised town to vote Amber for mayor as he is never mafia.

I thought LSB won't ruin Amber's never mafia streak for a mini game.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 21 2011 23:41 GMT
#468
On February 22 2011 07:46 darmousseh wrote:
Add a no explosion before first lynch rule and it's good

Scum tell here. Only mafia will want to limit town's choices of exploding or not exploding.
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