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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
February 11 2011 18:34 GMT
#29
I wasn't in Salem Mafia, but am a masochist so I'm signing up
/in
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
February 20 2011 09:19 GMT
#149
+1

unmoderated forum ftw~~
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seRapH
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United States9756 Posts
February 21 2011 20:47 GMT
#197
On February 17 2011 17:22 LunarDestiny wrote:
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On February 17 2011 17:05 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
actually fuck. this icon is ugly. I want to be something cooler.

Welcome abroad.

Advice: Spam more and we'll overcome this.

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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
February 21 2011 23:47 GMT
#214
On February 22 2011 08:39 LunarDestiny wrote:
I know some people's countries limit their monthly bandwidth to like 30 GBs/month...

annul's secret plan: waste their bandwidth early then get them lynched for suddenly being inactive.

LYNCH ANNUL
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
February 22 2011 15:15 GMT
#248
Yeah, RoL, you should be clearer

GAME STARTS FEB 22ND @10PM
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
February 23 2011 01:36 GMT
#273
On February 23 2011 09:53 GMarshal wrote:
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On February 23 2011 09:48 chaoser wrote:
On February 23 2011 09:22 LSB wrote:
Pre game yes, but its always good to lose that habit.

Plus not editing jacks up your post count! By the end of this game, you could be a zergling, or even a hydra!

Game starts 03:00 GMT (+00:00)


lol mafia forum is the reason i'm a goli


Heck, I had 90 some posts over about 9 month before I started playing mafia a little over a month ago, now I'm almost at 500, clearly mafia is the key to getting to defiler/bc/archon quickly

I have no idea how to get a defiler, but getting archon is easy

BC, on the other hand, >_>
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
February 23 2011 03:01 GMT
#276
I didn't get my PM yet but LET'S GET THIS SHOW ON THE ROAD.
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
February 23 2011 03:28 GMT
#281
On February 23 2011 12:27 Foolishness wrote:
You know a 30 sided die is mathematically impossible right?

It was rigged.
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
February 23 2011 03:37 GMT
#293
Flamewheel's XXXV actually had town-favored modkills

Regardless, inactivity is generally bad for town. How many of us are absolutely new? Because those are the people who I'm afraid will end up lurking the whole game.
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
February 23 2011 03:40 GMT
#296
When is XXX KST?
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seRapH
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United States9756 Posts
February 23 2011 03:41 GMT
#298
Damn your ninja edits...
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seRapH
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February 23 2011 03:53 GMT
#311
On February 23 2011 12:50 OriginalName wrote:
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On February 23 2011 12:47 annul wrote:
okay hi peeps

vote chaoser. that post reeks of redness.

p.s. still no role PM!


I think it's quite town but needs to have communication between cells also how exactly does it reek red?

Chaoser didn't say anything new. He's repeating what GMarshal said, a typical "contribute without actually contributing" scumtell. But this early in the game I'm willing to excuse it, since new players and bad players won't have much to talk about anyways.

At least Chaoser read BC's Town guide.
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
February 23 2011 04:00 GMT
#316
On February 23 2011 12:59 chaoser wrote:
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On February 23 2011 12:55 annul wrote:
it reeks of red because he is like "hey so theres weak powers in this game lol" which can only be known if he is a red, since if he was green he cant make that blanket claim and if he was a blue, he'd even be less inclined to make that claim

the only way he can do that is if he is red and he sees the red team has weak or no powers


the powers are listed out in the OP aren't they? I don't think framing is that powerful if they can pick like all GF or something (don't see limit on GF). That just means we can't trust our DTs this game =/

6 GFs would be completely imba (thought RoL did say behavioral analysis is key...)

How's this: Let's concentrate on analysis and let blues do their jobs.
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
February 23 2011 04:26 GMT
#334
On February 23 2011 13:00 seRapH wrote:
6 GFs would be completely imba (thought RoL did say behavioral analysis is key...)

On February 23 2011 13:00 seRapH wrote:
6 GFs would be completely imba

On February 23 2011 13:00 seRapH wrote:
would be completely imba

On February 23 2011 13:00 seRapH wrote:
would be


Well what number do you think I should say? I'd be lying if I said I thought the count was anything else.
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
February 23 2011 04:30 GMT
#337
On February 23 2011 13:24 GMarshal wrote:
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On February 23 2011 13:20 annul wrote:
On February 23 2011 13:19 GMarshal wrote:
for arguments sake going to create analysis cells, use them for informational analysis
(even assuming I were scum there is no way) I could ensure each has a mafia member in it as there isn't enough mafia to go around (I am trying to put at least 1 TL vet in each) as the game progresses and people die we can have new cells form. (also you are free to create your own parallel cells)

1. Coagulation, LSB, gryffindor
2 GMarshal, seRapH, OriginalName
3 Mr. Wiggles, ICanFlyLow, kevconsim
4 Barundar, LastArgument , why
5 darmousseh, Ser Aspi, Kenpachi
6 Gofarman, chaoser, ohN
7 astroorion, CubEdIn, Jackal58
8 Beneather, annul, Conversion
9 icemac, Foolishness, LunarDestiny
10 deconduo, kitaman27, JBright

This is just a suggestion, but I think it is a good one, discuss



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Hmmm, no red text this game.

Let me spell this out, I suggest that people bounce analysis on the people in their group before posting. This also allows people to bounce ideas of each other and generate more discussion and ideas. This is to 1 generate new ideas, 2 point out faulty logic, 3 give us more to analyze. You have no obligation to do this, but I think its a good idea, the groups are essentially random with the exception of including a tl vet in each group.

I'm fine with the cell idea, but inactivity would still kill a pre-determined set of cells. In addition, what if you're mafia? Then you may have rigged these cells towards your favor. What if instead we made our own cells? Not everyone will get partnered with two mafia.
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
February 23 2011 04:36 GMT
#342
Are people notified if they get roleblocked?
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
February 23 2011 22:02 GMT
#498
Please do, the recent trend on TL has been for mafia to lurk and wait for town to self-destruct.

Which would be the point of the cells, so town won't self-destruct as easily. I mean we got PMs, let's use them.

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Bye bye post 6666
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
February 24 2011 08:07 GMT
#644
icemac that was possibly the easiest way to dodge taking sides. The dude's probably going to get replaced or modkilled anyways.

Seriously, take a stance on someone. Most of my game since my 6666th post has been going on through PMs, but I guess that was selfish of me >_>

##Vote Icemac

Things to take sides on:
GM vs Gryff- Cell System
Annul vs LSB- XXXV

Personally I doubt either of annul or LSB are scum, this is just a grudgematch. Coag and Kenpachi are playing more pro-town than usual (or maybe its just less spam?)

People I'm suspicious of:
Jackal- Playing a lot more passively than he did as town
Icemac- Stop dodging the issues at hand
Gofarman- Proponent of lynching inactives. Voting annul.
A few more I'm not too sure of, will follow up on their posts tomorrow when I'm awake. Maybe.
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
February 24 2011 09:43 GMT
#649
Oops, pretty sure I did, sorry. Will do that now.

GM's cell system are independent from each other during day-to-day activities. It also involves less risk because you're not roleclaiming. It's a bottom-up system.

Your cell system is really just one big cell, that doesn't really give each person much choice or flexibility in the matter. It has more risk because "confirmations" are never truly confirmations, just within certain likelihood. It's a top-down system.

In my eyes, GM's is the less-risk, less-return choice, and yours is the high-risk, high-return choice. Personally, I like GM's better, but would rather have a more community-chosen circles.

I propose that anyone who wants to do GM's plan sign up with a confirmation and then we make circles amongst them.
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
February 25 2011 06:16 GMT
#841
On February 25 2011 14:27 JBright wrote:
Yay town. Looks like I ended up wasting my vote on myself since I forgot to change my vote.

If annul did slip up and there are up to 5 members in a mafia family...does that mean we could potentially have 1/3 of the players as mafia with only 2 families? Since this is a punishment game in some sense, I think that there must be more difficulties than just the special scum powers. Having potentially 10 scum means that it'll be more dangerous to trust the people in PM circles than expected if we do get around to forming them. I guess we'll just have to wait and see how night 1 goes and play from there.

Do you seriously believe this? Do you really think annul would "accidentally" let slip how many mafia there are? I know its wifom but I'm more inclined to believe that there are more than 5 mafia.

Two families... I have no idea where you came up with that. 2 families of five pretty much DOOM the town of twenty completely.

Also no I don't actually believe icemac's mafia, but was happy to see the pressure rising on him. I was not, however, pleased with the lack of reaction he gave. Icemac, please prove me wrong this game and don't be useless.
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
February 25 2011 06:28 GMT
#842
Oh wait whaaaa
RoL, I voted for icemac, not ICanFlyLow
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
February 25 2011 06:49 GMT
#844
On February 25 2011 15:36 JBright wrote:
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On February 25 2011 15:16 seRapH wrote:
On February 25 2011 14:27 JBright wrote:
Yay town. Looks like I ended up wasting my vote on myself since I forgot to change my vote.

If annul did slip up and there are up to 5 members in a mafia family...does that mean we could potentially have 1/3 of the players as mafia with only 2 families? Since this is a punishment game in some sense, I think that there must be more difficulties than just the special scum powers. Having potentially 10 scum means that it'll be more dangerous to trust the people in PM circles than expected if we do get around to forming them. I guess we'll just have to wait and see how night 1 goes and play from there.

Do you seriously believe this? Do you really think annul would "accidentally" let slip how many mafia there are? I know its wifom but I'm more inclined to believe that there are more than 5 mafia.

Two families... I have no idea where you came up with that. 2 families of five pretty much DOOM the town of twenty completely.

Also no I don't actually believe icemac's mafia, but was happy to see the pressure rising on him. I was not, however, pleased with the lack of reaction he gave. Icemac, please prove me wrong this game and don't be useless.


This is my second game and I really have no idea what to expect... I've read somewhere that there could be games with competing mafia families, but I guess that not a common occurrence here.

As far as the "slip" goes, I guess it really is going to be wifom. If that gave away too much information (as to spoil the game), one of the mods could have potentially edited it out. But now that so many people have seen it, any modifications would be extremely suspicious. As a general rule, it is probably true that scum lie a lot. But even 5 mafia members seem like a good approximation (if 10 is too much), although it is definitely safer to assume that 5 is the lower limit of the number of scum.

I think the most recent two-family mafia game we've had is haunted mafia. Go take a look at that. 60-man game, with two families of 11. Standard mafia count is 1/5 of total players.
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
February 26 2011 09:16 GMT
#896
Ouch, two bluesnipes. Also it's State Patty's day weekend here in PSU so idk when I'll be on.

Hopefully I'll be sober enough to drop in and read stuff.
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
February 28 2011 01:34 GMT
#1093
Hi just got back home, let me read up on the thread and catch up
+ Show Spoiler +
I swear I'm sober now
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
February 28 2011 01:37 GMT
#1094
##Vote: icemac
In case it takes a while to read, was kinda gone the whole weekend kinda
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
February 28 2011 02:39 GMT
#1114
Ok, all caught up.

LSB vs Barundar- LSB is the one who really pushed the annul lynch. That alone makes me doubt that he's mafia, regardless of how scummy the rest of his play so far might seem. Barundar, on the other hand, doesn't have the cleanest record right now. I'd be ok with lynching Barundar, since LSB has already caught one.

icemac- Getting scummier, really starting to suspect him now. It doesn't help that his lynch is meeting with a lot of resistance. Especially this late in the day. Feels like someone's deliberately diverting the lynch off of him, doesn't it? Personally, I say we go for it. When there's post that triggers a swing in votes this late in the game it feels super suspicious.


Also, it's the end of the day. The entire day cycle was spent with great bickering and squabbles between two parties. Everything was dandy, with two camps clearly lined up. No matter who we lynched, we'd have much more information to look at. But now people are jumping off and actively diverting the lynch. At the end of the day. For no reason other than because foolishness said so.

I hate that. I respect foolishness and all as a player, but that does not mean that we should just blindly do what he tells us. This isn't a battle between a few "priority 1" players, this is isn't even a battle between "priority 1+2" players, this is a game where YOU decide who YOU think is mafia. Is anyone actually voting for people they think are really mafia? Because at this rate, we're going to lose all the progress we made today. And that's bullshit.
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
March 02 2011 02:40 GMT
#1313
Sorry guys I have like three midterms hacking away at my ass right now. Catching up~~ I can read in 20 mins no prob >_>
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
March 02 2011 02:43 GMT
#1314
Oh wait day ends tommorow doesn't it? Awesome, I need the time
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
March 02 2011 04:00 GMT
#1321
Few things:

I never voted for ICanFlyLow. Ever. Check the voting thread, read through my votes. RoL you're cheating >=(

@Axis of Evil post- Actually, the entire post that I made boils down to "IF YOU ALL FOLLOW ONE PERSON WITHOUT ANALYSIS OF YOUR OWN WE GET NO INFORMATION THROUGHOUT THE GAME". But of course Ser Aspi you wouldn't really agree with that because you're just sheeping along with foolishness anyways. As for LD and JBright, my supposed "scumbuddies", I'm not going to waste my time defending them.

@KP Issue- I think it's likely that there's 2 godfathers and 3 goons left. That's 3.5KP, which should be enough to do everything. Or our vigi is someone who's under heavy pressure and doesn't think anyone will believe their claim, or a noob who was convinced by mafia not to claim (but he should still claim anyways hinthint). I suppose its also possible that LSB/jackal is lying, but until someone comes up with a plausible explanation why they would do that, I won't believe it.

As for lynch targets for today, I'd really like seeing a lynch on any of us axis of evil guys or gryffindor. Would really give us a good idea of where everyone stands, especially if they flip scum. I can assure you lynching me would only serve to get us a bit closer to LYLO, and also maybe let me make some memorable last words that you might actually listen to, so how about the other 3 guys?

@Jackal- You can't actually expect us to go along without telling us why you want kevconism lynched. Convince me. I don't think you'd lie about the RB, so I'm going to take any analysis you give me as town advice.
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