Pick Your Power Mafia 3! - Page 77

On December 01 2010 14:53 aidnai wrote:
So, I see several things going on at once in the thread. There is the Coag/Fishball/Orgo thing going on, then there's the Ghrur/Deconduo thing, and of course who could forget the RoL/aidnai thing. (I still maintain that debating the role clues/hints is mostly a waste of time).

Here's the thing, mafia would love to just sit back and let town destroy itself. So it's a safe bet that some of these conflicts are townie vs. townie. But the fact that the debate is continually being shifted from one thing to the next says to me that mafia are active in the thread, trying to shift attention around. So probably there's at least one mafia vs. townie battle going on. Now my thoughts:

RoL vs. aidnai. RoL's case against me was pretty weak, ESPECIALLY compared to the way he was acting about it. I've thought about this for a while and come to the following conclusion: RoL is probably a vet type role, or perhaps a mad hatter. I believe his game plan was something like, pick the first scumtell you see, pressure the shit out of whoever it was that 'slipped'. Two options from here: 1) you found mafia -> congrats, you may get a lynch, you may force mafia to behave a certain way in the thread, etc. 2) you found town -> in this case the plan is to draw a mafia hit. Mafia would certainly be tempted to hit RoL to frame me and cause confusion in the town (while eliminating a strong player, perhaps the only one here with a game plan)...of course, RoL would either survive the hit (foiling the plan) or maybe blow up some mafia. I think he may have also chosen me to pick on because i'm new--the thinking being that if I was actually mafia, he'd be able to scare me into making a real slip-up. I think his brazen, fearless stlye of posting definitely points to a vet/bulletproof/hatter type role, where he would want to take a hit.

Verdict: townie vs. townie.

Ghrur vs. Deconduo. I have looked at the posting from both, and in my opinion we're looking at two townies again. Both deconduo and ghrur looked suspicious right off the bat, as each would be eager to point out. But, that is more than understandable, given the wacky game setup plus everyone is a blue so that right there is gonna make people act a little weird. What is more important, however, is that they both responded pretty well to pressure, gave good arguments, posted without guilt or fear etc. Imo you two should bury the hatchet.

Verdict: townie vs. townie.

That leaves coag/fishball/orgo. I feel like I'm missing half of what's going on with this one, but here's what I see. Coag votes fishball later explaining his reasoning as "I really feel that if doch would make anyone on the signup list mafia it would be 100% fishball". Fishball responds pretty oddly (voting himself, then unvoting and voting RoL), and orgolove jumps all over him. Now this was obviously a simple pressure vote, but look at the way fishball reacted:


Now, this seems scummy to me for several reasons. 1) overreaction much? 2) advises looking at inactives, votes for a strong mafia player/veteran (at that point inactive) and then never changes his vote despite RoL becoming active and being a likely blue. 3) shows no regard for town interests.
And in fact, fishball has done absolutely nothing for town, even though he's been active yesterday and today. Here's the rest of his posts to date:



Keep in mind these posts (from page 8) are boldly ignoring orgolove's accusations--a common mafia tactic (ignore it until it goes away). I know fishball is capable of doing more for town than this. Maybe he's acting extra strange because of his role, but I can't believe there's a town role that keeps you from contributing anything at all.

on that note:
##vote fishball

P.S. aeres, barundar, ~opz~, ghrur, jcarlsoniv, will you please remove your votes from me? only thing worse than getting killed night one for me would be getting lynched day one. -_-

On January 13 2011 17:06 JimboSilvers wrote:
Wow what the hell do you think you pansies are doing here. I leave, and everyone decides on the brilliant idea of lynching LayOffRage, who claimed vanilla who picked traitor. He claimed to have failed at picking traitor, which no scum in his right mind would do. His lynch was pretty much opposed by nobody, and nobody stepped up to defend him. So he's obviously not scum, and he claimed traitor is above him. Yet you guys decided to lynch him for no other reason than because you thought he was lying. Or you were afraid of lynching a witch. Brilliant.

Its 17 players left and 4 people died last night. If one hit was a JOAT hit, then its another 4 hits tonight + 1 lynch = 12 players left. There are 5 are mafia, 6 if mafia recruited the traitor, which would make it game. If it wasn't a JOAT and there's 2 SKs, then its 5 hits tonight which is even worse. So this is a potential lylo. Even if we correctly lynch today, its 4 mafia left and we have few leads. So priorities for right now are that we need to lynch red, and we need to get rid of questionable KP sources.

deconduo is supposedly the CPR doctor. But besides all the attention he gets from his role, he is nothing but a useless, space wasting, unreliable heap of uselessness.

In his first few posts, deconduo asks a few questions and puts out a couple one liners about LSB's plan. He doesn't offer anything conclusive and doesn't try to put forward any new ideas. A little later on, he quotes Fishball and says:

Doesn't offer any more opinions and doesn't follow up on this comment. He just comes in, pops in a negative statement, and disappears from the thread for an entire day. What is his point? He certainly isn't invested in his opinions.

The next day, he comes back, picks a "random" number, and gets first pick. Other than that, he contributes nothing. Has a panic "crisis" where he claims he didn't get the role he picked. All this time its just one liners. What is he trying to do? Make it look like he is active or something? His vote post is interesting. He lays out the three candidates, lists general reasons to vote for them, but is very wishy-washy and doesn't take a real stand, meandering his way around lynch. He just picks one but doesn't seem convinced about who he's voting for. Right after that, he asks "On a last note, do you guys want me to zap someone tonight, and who do you want me to zap? Don't forget mafia can manipulate the 'zap vote' just as easily as they can manipulate a lynch." That last sentence is just terrible. Why does he need to mention this statement? It seems like he is just giving himself an out when a townie dies.

Next, he pops out of nowhere to accuse Amber[LighT] of OMGUS voting for aidnai. Yet he doesn't like the way aidnai is playing either. So what is it? deconduo isn't putting any thoughts into his post. He's pointing fingers without pointing fingers.

In his next useless post, he says:

Which best suspects? Why didn't you mention these earlier? Why were you so wishy washy in your vote post yet suddenly say that the "best suspects" are at the top? And following this, his next post says he'll random who to hit between Kenpachi, Jackal58, and Fishball. This is suspicious. He doesn't want to be accountable for his choice. And perhaps he even wants to protect one of his mafia buddies by giving a list and picking one at "random".

deconduo's posts bring up more questions than answers. First he is clearly lurkiing the thread. He tries to spread doubt through the town, and uses questionable methods to determine who to zap. He doesn't take responsibility for his actions, and just seems to be flailing around looking for a consensus. A consensus that would allow him to blame his missteps on the town as a whole. As a bonus, deconduo has night KP. Getting rid of that will give us a bit more time and hopefully give us at least another day to find another red.

##Vote Deconduo