Experimental Mini Mafia - Page 8

On December 07 2010 12:38 LSB wrote:

All right, next game I'm going to start by claiming vet or bulletproof. That'll do the trick!

On December 02 2010 06:51 kingjames01 wrote:


I can't figure out if you're intentionally misleading us...

When RoL was replaced by ~OpZ~, DrH said this:



When Pandain was replaced by you, DrH said this:




These both refer to a house. It's interesting but definitely not a coincidence. Then you come along and pretend that the last clue is actually 4 people and you don't know anything about it.

Did you really not receive your role PM yet? Or are you pretending?

On December 02 2010 06:54 LSB wrote:

I can defiantly say that Pandain does not have a home. He left me all alone on the streets.

On December 02 2010 06:54 kingjames01 wrote:


So are you the hobo?

On December 07 2010 15:18 Fishball wrote:
Oh, so it's finally over.
I thought it was so overkill with Mafia deceiving the Town even further by lynching one of their own.

Anyways, like I said from the start, this game was an experiment for me as well. Since this game was not meant to be serious, after I received my in-game role PM, seeing that I've never exactly played the "pest" role before, I decided to take this opportunity and give it a run to see how effective my play can be. As most of you saw, it was pretty damn effective. I got a lot of attention, for good and bad, and caused confusion when I started to come up front with information. Ah yes, confusion...

There are quite a bit of players here that I haven't exactly played with before, my second goal is basically player profiling (I generally don't read games I don't play so I won't know). When I started to bring up information (sincere info mind you, ahem), a lot of players shared their own views and opinions; It's totally normal for a player to be confused at that point, but the reactions I received varied a lot. Some took this as a sure-scum-tell, but some slowed down and started think. I'm not going to go too deep into detail here, as like mentioned, this is for myself, but you guys get the point.

Now back to the overall game itself. Due to my role, I expected to be lynched from the very beginning. I don't necessarily have to be lynched, but totally expected to due to the play style I choose. Right before the last vote, I announced my lynch doesn't guarantee it will benefit town. The reason behind that, is to tip the chance of a Mafia hammer as much as possible, even by a little bit. If you guys back track the votes, it was very close to getting aidnai killed. Only if Aeres didn't make that little play of "losing his own vote", and Barundar didn't unvote... I've hinted quite a few times in the thread not to unvote me if you've already voted, but no one seem to caught on. Aeres using his vote canceling ability twice in a row on players who voted for me also baffles me, adding fuel to the fire for no apparent reason.

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Midway through, after I announced the fact that I got a whisper regarding Coagulation's "check", he immediately asked me in the thread openly if the target he checked was a Medic or not. That immediately raised an alarm for me... You just don't ask that.

1. If you read it from a pro-town perspective, any other pro-town player will never announce that to the public.
2. The fact that he asked if the player has a specific role, and have claimed beforehand that he does not get any information from the checks, would raise a huge eyebrow to any semi-decent player due to contradicting information; His credibility just got shot to hell. There were times in the game that I thought he was pro-town, but the puzzle never really did add up based on reasons above. I was never really able to give him my vote of confidence. KJ also voiced a few times for the information, but I was too focused on dealing with the bombardment from everyone else, I totally let him slip by until later, just before I was about to get lynched.



In Insane Mafia, KJ has been so pro-town, he stood out as the only player I thought "has to be green". Even the Mafia killed him on Day 1. I've also heard praises for him in other games, yet he pulls a move like this? Still, it was my own mistake for not realizing it right away, being blinded by everything else.

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As for Annul, his early arguments and points struck out to me as scummy, hence why I had the lone vote on him on Day 1. Reason, pretty much like KJ...



After that, he stayed low profile and with me dealing with everything else, I lost my sights on him

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Oroglove, all I have to say to you is, nothing is ever black and white in a game of Mafia. I really did not want to waste my time explain nor argue with you in the thread.

I did had a good chuckle when I saw this:


Then immediately after:

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As for jcarlsoniv, I'm guilty for missing his ability explanation, as well as a bunch of other stuff. Actually I had to ask KJ to quote a bunch of other posts for me as well . Still, my point still stands. You should never say "I will lynch you since you are not helping Town", it has been explained so many times why this is bad coming from a town perspective. You're basically just painting yourself red. You being reluctant to get yourself lynched and be a confirmed Townie, while "still being able to play", in addition to the quote above led me to believe you were red. It wasn't without reason.

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I've mentioned once in the thread, I didn't have time to look at the inactives at all, so I never had anything on aidnai.

Last but not least, the clues. I would say these two threw us off pretty bad, especially the latter.
- Two men with a third eye, one tells the truth and the other lies
- A teacher and a preacher, a mouse and a house all fear or love the hammer
I've already talked to DH about this, and I understand this is an experimental game, so there is not much to add here.

Well, this pretty much wraps up my thoughts regarding this game. I learned something new, and found something new.

In 3 years, about 20'ish of Mafia games played on TL, this was my first time being lynched. Judging by the results, I think I'm set for the VI role now.

On December 07 2010 16:41 Fishball wrote:


Well, I do noticed you like to use "=)" a lot.
Just look at the PM chain you had with me, or even at the two posts you just posted. You're like one of those people that uses "XD" in every sentence. OMG! If annoying me is one of your main goal, you're definitely succeeding...

To be honest, all I have on you was already mentioned in my big post up top. I know you're smart, and was extremely pro-town in one game. Then in another game your "alignment" is the other way around. I can understand being "less" pro-town in order to avoid being targeted early in the game, but pushing for "forbidden" information on the other hand, I mean what the hell? You know better than that (Fine example of "Style is changeable, certain things are not", *cough*).

Basically, the difference is a little bit too extreme don't you think?

On November 30 2010 05:32 kingjames01 wrote:
I plan to use this Experimental game to try out some new things. We'll see how it goes. =)

On December 07 2010 18:35 annul wrote:


you know, you used this precise line with me, just replace "smiley faces" with something else

why do you want to unnerve as many people as possible? what can that possibly gain you?

On December 07 2010 17:48 kingjames01 wrote:
Annoying your opponents is one of the most important tools in Mafia. I think that when utilized correctly, you stand to gain a lot of information about the other player. It's just like in Poker. Any professional can tell you that how a person handles minor conflict says a lot about them when they are really challenged. If the inclusion of smiley faces unnerves you then I've accomplished my goal. =) Also, from the PM chain, I've deduced that you didn't understand the point of my responses. Using those PM's I've learned more about you outside of a Mafia setting and that information is priceless.

On November 22 2010 13:30 annul wrote:
it is also illogical to imply that in order for a player to argue to stop a bad lynch, they MUST have an alternative in front of them. it is like if someone is like "hey what are we gonna do friday night? i know... RAPE PRESCHOOLERS!" and i tell them that is a horrible idea, and they say "DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER IDEA?"

if i have no other idea on what to do friday night, that does not mean raping preschoolers is a valid plan.