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I'd be more than happy to vote for an experienced player, but I'm new so I don't know who's good and who's not. So, at the moment, my vote is with Zeks. | ||
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On December 11 2010 11:36 CubEdIn wrote: But yeah, that's a good question, how will the MoM decide who to kill first, whoever he is (will be). My sense is that, as this is the MoM's only official power, a significant part of each player's campaign will revolve around their answer to this question. | ||
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On December 11 2010 12:14 Mr.Zergling wrote: I think LSB is making himself suspicious by proposing a 1st kill voting style that can be easily manipulated I actually think this debacle has made LSB come out looking pretty town. there's no way he wouldn't have thought of these objections if he was mafia and he would have realized that no sane town would ever agree to them. If we really want to have a private vote and have an auditor, we should have 5 or 6 of them, chosen by RNG, to really ensure there is at least one town among them. Or is that too paranoid? | ||
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On December 11 2010 12:30 jcarlsoniv wrote: Pure WIFOM. Of course everything WIFOM is possible, but it's really difficult to read into someone's intentions. Good point. Sorry about that. I like reasoned vote a lot. Of all of them I think that would result in the most discussion and more discussion is always better. | ||
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Speaking of which, anybody got any good ideas of in flavor power roles for the death eaters? It would be nice to have some idea of what they could be capable of. | ||
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I'm going to use my vote as a pressure to an inactive. I'm going to randomly pick Chaoser, because he's posting a lot in pokemafia and isn't posting here. That's pretty weird. I won't be able to come back in time to change my vote, so if he comes and posts hopefully everyone else will just back off him and my vote won't matter. ##VOTE: Chaoser Here are some random other thoughts: Does anyone see a character that might be aligned with Death Eaters but checks as town? Because both RoL and LSB seem to be begging for DT checks. I know someone said imperious curse and that makes me suspicious of both. It's weird that airbag defended inactive players as not scummy. I thought the reasoning for pressuring inactive players was pretty obvious and well known. | ||
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2) My interpretation is that 3 death eater hits went out, 1 on Amber, 1 on RoL, and 1 on Beneather. RoL survived the hit, but got taken out by a 3rd-party (quite possibly town-aligned since he was garnering a lot of suspicion). I think RoL got hit by death eater because only 1 person has claimed to be hit and because RoL was playing more scummy than normal. A scum would interpret this as trying to make him a less attractive target (you don't NK scummy players) and NK'ed him anyway. This makes LSB more likely to be scum as RoL was quite vocal in his denunciation. 3) Kenpachi and LSB = mod-confirmed patil sisters? The only thing I can think of that makes his defense make sense (other than them both being scum, of course). In this case your play is REALLY STUPID Kenpachi. | ||
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On December 14 2010 10:24 kitaman27 wrote: So were the unlynchable and vet abilities considered to be the remaining two of the five abilities, which he needed to activate first? Probably the three different DT abilities make 5. | ||
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I don't have a particular reason other than that it seems overpowered to have two mason groups in play and no one else is chiming in with you which makes it likely its a two person group. What's the obvious two person group? Patil sisters. Regardless, I'm willing to hold off on LSB for now based on your word. | ||
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In conclusion, I'm not sure. | ||
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On December 14 2010 13:02 Mr.Zergling wrote: Well if we group claim, reds will be forced to counter claim, and if they fail, well to the gallows they go. However if we have successful counterclaims we might end up lynching town Not all town are in groups. Lockhart/RoL wasn't in a group. We don't know how many groups there are or how many town are in group. So reds don't have to counterclaim, they can just blend in with however many non-group-aligned townies there are, and maybe throw in a fake group or two. | ||
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Does that make sense? And of course LSB killing isn't necessary if someone can think of a reason not to. | ||
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Harry makes much more sense thematically, not that all the roles have been obviously thematic. Harry was attacked and killed by Voldermort once and survived. After that he was vulnerable. | ||
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On December 14 2010 14:56 LSB wrote: Meapak... please don't die if your harry... please... If LSB is Snape, it is quite possible he has an alternate victory with regards to keeping Harry alive... The main reason I see for killing orgolove first is that LSB (if town) if a valuable scum-hunter and orgolove has been doing nothing but FOS LSB who we are going to lynch at some point anyway. | ||
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On December 14 2010 14:59 orgolove wrote: Why are you not realizing the fact that He. Is. LYING. There was just ONE scream. There was just ONE roleblock. And yet here we have TWO people claiming that their role was blocked. OBVIOUSLY ONE IS LYING. Who's more likely to be the liar? Obviously the fool who was playing scummy from the very beginning. Meapak was actually chosen as a mayor by all you guys - compared to LSB who wanted a friggin SECRET VOTE. Listen. LSB is a very experienced player. I wouldn't put it past him to fabricate a story to bring me down, as someone who obviously had been attacking him from the start. This is sickening. LSB has already damned himself to a lynching by admitting to contributing to KP. | ||
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On December 14 2010 15:05 Airbag wrote: And if he was scum he would have known ahead of time that you were going to be roleblocked. That doesn't clear him at all. I say we lynch LSB and if he flips green we lynch you. If he flips green how would we not be lynching orgolove? | ||
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On December 14 2010 15:09 LSB wrote: Okay, that makes things a lot easier. 1) I contribute to the death eater count. So basically I hold half a KP (like all other death eaters). So yes, I understand, lynching me reduces the same amount of KP as lynching orgolove. 2) Since Meapak is not harry, he must be lying about being blocked. There you go. Two mafia. This explains why RoL was hit 3) As long as I am alive, Harry is unkillable. Thats why you guys should try to keep me alive as long as possible. 1) How does this work, there are 8 death eaters + you. 1 voldermort, so 8 non voldermort 1/2 KP's = 4 KP independent of voldermort. And yet there are only 3 KP total? 2) What I don't follow your logic. How does Meapak not being harry mean he is lying? Again, even if none of this is true, the best course of action is lynching orgolove, correct? | ||
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On December 14 2010 15:20 jcarlsoniv wrote: That didn't answer my question... I've never played DT, so idk how it works. When does the DT get his check results back? :3 This is what annul said on page 25. 1. Substitution roles. 2. Protection roles 3. Investigation roles. 4. Non-standard kill roles. 5. Non-Voldemort standard mafia kills. 6. Voldemort's personal kill. | ||
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On December 14 2010 15:23 why wrote: This is what annul said on page 25. 1. Substitution roles. 2. Protection roles 3. Investigation roles. 4. Non-standard kill roles. 5. Non-Voldemort standard mafia kills. 6. Voldemort's personal kill. Nevermind misread question. Sorry. | ||
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On December 14 2010 10:10 Amber[LighT] wrote: i took a hit last night. (1 of 2 lives) If a medic protected someone else it would be a very good idea for them to contact that person to start a mini-circle. This was a lie, correct? I wonder why he did it... and, assuming that kenpachi is correct, kenpachi will be now be a night target, as will Lunar (and that probably tells us Mr. Zergling's name as well...) | ||
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On December 16 2010 13:18 kitaman27 wrote: Well how do you interpret it? What other way does it make sense unless one of you two are scum? There are alternate win conditions. We know that when Beneather died, the alternate win count went down by 3. This suggested (to me) that there was a Ravenclaw shared victory (Mr. Zergling, as the 3rd member, is Roger Davies or Cho Chang). There could be a similar Gryffindor House alternate win condition that Lunar can share in (if the Gryffindor house has 3 members, this neatly makes 4 total alternate win conditions left), or Pavarti could have yet another alternate win. | ||
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On December 16 2010 14:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I'm talking about the other house members, did their PMs specify that the whole group is town. I'd like a member to come forward and confirm this because if this was true than it would be really easy just to have all the houses claim and lynch anyone who wasn't confirmed and didn't appear in a house. There are only two houses in the game, Ravenclaw and Gryffindor. There aren't enough Hufflepuff and Slytherin members to make up a full 3-member house. Additionally, there are members of each house in the HP universe that are not in the mod-confirmed house group (see one of Roger Davies and Cho Chang not being the Ravenclaw House, as well as there being far more than 3 Gryffindor in the player list). Only 6 players can be confirmed, so the Gryffindor group isn't necessarily suspect. | ||
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Cho Chang or Roger Davies (the one not in the Ravenclaw House) can confirm by saying they are in the Ravenclaw and having no one dispute them (there are 4 total Ravenclaws on the list, 3 are in the House). There are 5 Gryffindor members on the player list (Harry Potter, Hermione, Colin Creevey, Angelina Johnson, and Pavarti Patil). 3 are in the house. The remaining 2 can claim to be part of the House and, if no one disputes, are confirmed. Coincidentally, I am in Gryffindor. | ||
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On December 17 2010 09:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Why are we voting Kenpachi? I put a vote on him to see if he would talk but I think at this point it's obvious he is just bad. Don't lynch Kenpachi. Why: Extremely inactive Claims Gryffindor despite Jcarls having a confirmed Gryffindor circle that he ISN'T part of There isn't a strong lynch right now. I think the Death Eaters have been mostly silent. With the small amount of discussion that's happened in this thread I'm not surprised we have almost no lynch target. To be clear, I am not claiming to be one of Jcarl's group. I am claiming to have a character that is Gryffindor that is NOT in Jcarl's group (there are 5 total Gryffindor members, 3 in Jcarl's group). | ||
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I've basically tried to be neutral and observant since I don't know what the hell I am doing and didn't want to get lynched. I've also tried to be as helpful as possible in the ways that I feel I can be. But whatever, if lack of other candidates is the problem, here are other options of people you could lynch instead of me! Here's one: Kitaman27. Let's do it day by day. D1: On December 11 2010 12:48 kitaman27 wrote: While a private vote is nice in theory, if the mafia wants to hide their vote, they're going to be able to do so. It will probably be pretty easy to tell who the popular bandwagons are going to be based on the thread activity so the private vote won't accomplish much. Now if only I remembered who any of these characters were >.< By the way, any particular reason for no death post?  Here Kitaman repeats things about LSB's campaign that other people have already said. Accomplishes nothing. On December 11 2010 12:53 kitaman27 wrote: Also this bit of information seems pretty significant. Almost 1/3 of the players have alternate motives that we have to be suspicious of. We have to be aware that a player may act pro-town for much of the game and suddenly betray us to meet their own goals. Says something everyone already knows. On December 13 2010 03:08 kitaman27 wrote: Just to confirm, was this your campaign promise Meapak? I was under the impression that you wanted to target a mayor candidate. Mind clearing that up? Asks Meapak a clarifying question. These are all his posts D1. He doesn't make one useful contribution and generally stays under the radar, while having just enough of a post count to make sure he isn't targeted as an inactive. N1: I don't think I need to individually analyze these. There is not one opinion offered here. All he does is ask question after question about non-offensive topics. He doesn't even attempt to offer any insight. I've listed them below for convenience. On December 14 2010 09:44 kitaman27 wrote: Will those who are hit even be informed that they were hit? On December 14 2010 09:59 kitaman27 wrote: Well someone confirming they were hit doesn't reveal why they weren't hit. Plus, it gives a confirmed townie to rally around. On December 14 2010 10:05 kitaman27 wrote: Can you also confirm that you group has an alternate win condition? On December 14 2010 10:24 kitaman27 wrote: So were the unlynchable and vet abilities considered to be the remaining two of the five abilities, which he needed to activate first? D2: On December 15 2010 00:28 kitaman27 wrote: To prevent later speculation, you accompanied orgolove last night, right? So RoL did not dt check him like you suggested earlier? LSB is clearly going to be lynched by now. There's no disincentive for mafia to attack him. Of course, this isn't really an attack so much as a question of clarification. He seems to point out things LSB needs to take care of to make his story plausible. On December 15 2010 01:57 kitaman27 wrote: there is still the possibility that he was trying to push orgolove without role claiming. If that was the case though, I would assume LSB would say so, rather than allow him to get caught up in a lie. Meapak, did you inform LSB that the "scream" referred to a roleblocking ability against you or was LSB the first one to bring it up. If LSB was the first to mention it, I'm not sure how so many people can be accusing him of making it up, unless LSB was part of the team that caused the scream. Here, again, he seems to be trying to appear to be attacking LSB while his wording instills doubt in his guilt. He also doesn't say anything new or insightful. The last line doesn't even really make sense, since that is one of the central tenets of LSB being mafia, and yet he uses the phrase "I'm not sure how people can be accusing him of making it up". N2: Doesn't post. D3: Has an argument about whether Lunar's alternate win condition has to be scum aligned, which is useless and probably incorrect. Then, he halfheartedly and jokingly calls out some inactives, with no follow-up. He also intersperses that with some more clarifying questions. On December 17 2010 05:25 kitaman27 wrote: Only post in the thread. Not exactly jumping into it, now are we? Mind analyzing the person of your choice so we can at least have something out of you? On December 17 2010 09:21 kitaman27 wrote: Happy Birthday! So how come you haven't posted the previous 3 days? Its real tough to pick out the scum, when we have 1-2 posts to go by  Then, he votes for Pandain after posting the below: On December 17 2010 11:02 kitaman27 wrote: Well I would hope so, he is dead. Even before he died, he was a replacement for only like half a day, so that would probably explain why he didn't post much there. It is really weird that Kitaman votes for Pandain after he defends him here. Notice that a bandwagon has already formed. Looking back on Kitman's posts, there is very little substance to any of them. He has never staked out a claim or had a viewpoint on anything, while still posting just enough to keep him off people's radar. Even when he has stated an opinion, there was always already a significant bandwagon for that opinion. At least I've tried to be helpful. | ||
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Also, if the DT if mod-confirmed, the evidence against Dr. H is damning. Voting Dr. H. | ||
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Btw, I'm pretty sure whether we can win or not (without kill avoidance) depends on how KP is reduced. Is there some standard for that (other than obviously Voldermort being 1 KP himself)? | ||
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Good job guys! | ||
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