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why
Profile Joined May 2009
United States215 Posts
December 08 2010 22:56 GMT
#74
/in

intimidating, but should be fun
why
Profile Joined May 2009
United States215 Posts
December 11 2010 01:59 GMT
#126
There seem to be two major choices to me. Either we elect an experienced mafia player who is well known for his red-hunting prowess, or we elect someone who will just take a vote and kill the person with the most votes. The advantage with the election system is that we can use all the traditional tools, like voting to pressure inactives or whatever.

I'd be more than happy to vote for an experienced player, but I'm new so I don't know who's good and who's not. So, at the moment, my vote is with Zeks.
why
Profile Joined May 2009
United States215 Posts
December 11 2010 02:33 GMT
#141
LSB, as MoM, how would you determine who to kill first?
why
Profile Joined May 2009
United States215 Posts
December 11 2010 02:41 GMT
#146
On December 11 2010 11:36 CubEdIn wrote:
But yeah, that's a good question, how will the MoM decide who to kill first, whoever he is (will be).


My sense is that, as this is the MoM's only official power, a significant part of each player's campaign will revolve around their answer to this question.
why
Profile Joined May 2009
United States215 Posts
December 11 2010 03:20 GMT
#163
On December 11 2010 12:14 Mr.Zergling wrote:
I think LSB is making himself suspicious by proposing a 1st kill voting style that can be easily manipulated


I actually think this debacle has made LSB come out looking pretty town. there's no way he wouldn't have thought of these objections if he was mafia and he would have realized that no sane town would ever agree to them.

If we really want to have a private vote and have an auditor, we should have 5 or 6 of them, chosen by RNG, to really ensure there is at least one town among them. Or is that too paranoid?
why
Profile Joined May 2009
United States215 Posts
December 11 2010 03:57 GMT
#171
On December 11 2010 12:30 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2010 12:20 why wrote:
On December 11 2010 12:14 Mr.Zergling wrote:
I think LSB is making himself suspicious by proposing a 1st kill voting style that can be easily manipulated


I actually think this debacle has made LSB come out looking pretty town. there's no way he wouldn't have thought of these objections if he was mafia and he would have realized that no sane town would ever agree to them.

If we really want to have a private vote and have an auditor, we should have 5 or 6 of them, chosen by RNG, to really ensure there is at least one town among them. Or is that too paranoid?


Pure WIFOM. Of course everything WIFOM is possible, but it's really difficult to read into someone's intentions.


Good point. Sorry about that.

I like reasoned vote a lot. Of all of them I think that would result in the most discussion and more discussion is always better.
why
Profile Joined May 2009
United States215 Posts
December 11 2010 07:06 GMT
#204
All my Harry Potter knowledge has gotten me is that whoever is Colin Creevey probably has the sample "Camera Fanatic" power.

Speaking of which, anybody got any good ideas of in flavor power roles for the death eaters? It would be nice to have some idea of what they could be capable of.
why
Profile Joined May 2009
United States215 Posts
December 11 2010 19:39 GMT
#262
Hey LSB, why did your initial mayoral candidacy not include the method by which you would kill the first person? For everyone else that was the first thing they included, but you made a whole separate post about it about 10 minutes later, and only after you had been told that you had left it out.
why
Profile Joined May 2009
United States215 Posts
December 12 2010 21:32 GMT
#398
i got to go until after votes are due and I can't make heads or tails of this election stuff so I'm just going to vote for zeks. He seems totally uninterested in having the MoM position and is willing to just turf the lynching responsibility back to town. At least the mafia won't be able to use the MoM position for evil and we'll be able to trace D1 voting patterns which are super important for later mafia detection.

I'm going to use my vote as a pressure to an inactive. I'm going to randomly pick Chaoser, because he's posting a lot in pokemafia and isn't posting here. That's pretty weird. I won't be able to come back in time to change my vote, so if he comes and posts hopefully everyone else will just back off him and my vote won't matter.

##VOTE: Chaoser

Here are some random other thoughts:

Does anyone see a character that might be aligned with Death Eaters but checks as town? Because both RoL and LSB seem to be begging for DT checks. I know someone said imperious curse and that makes me suspicious of both.

It's weird that airbag defended inactive players as not scummy. I thought the reasoning for pressuring inactive players was pretty obvious and well known.
why
Profile Joined May 2009
United States215 Posts
December 12 2010 21:39 GMT
#400
If I recall correctly, Snape looked evil but was actually good. I could see him as a miller, but if he was he probably would have claimed already.
why
Profile Joined May 2009
United States215 Posts
December 12 2010 21:52 GMT
#404
^ this makes imperious curse unlikely since there are 8 confirmed death eaters. I guess one of the death eaters could have polyjuice potion or something. But I don't think any of the death eater characters are specifically associated with polyjuice potion like barty crouch jr would have been.
why
Profile Joined May 2009
United States215 Posts
December 14 2010 01:24 GMT
#598
1) Can Mr. Zergling and Lunar Destiny prove that they are mod-confirmed? Like by breadcrumb? Sorry if this has already been addressed.

2) My interpretation is that 3 death eater hits went out, 1 on Amber, 1 on RoL, and 1 on Beneather. RoL survived the hit, but got taken out by a 3rd-party (quite possibly town-aligned since he was garnering a lot of suspicion). I think RoL got hit by death eater because only 1 person has claimed to be hit and because RoL was playing more scummy than normal. A scum would interpret this as trying to make him a less attractive target (you don't NK scummy players) and NK'ed him anyway.

This makes LSB more likely to be scum as RoL was quite vocal in his denunciation.

3) Kenpachi and LSB = mod-confirmed patil sisters? The only thing I can think of that makes his defense make sense (other than them both being scum, of course). In this case your play is REALLY STUPID Kenpachi.
why
Profile Joined May 2009
United States215 Posts
December 14 2010 01:25 GMT
#600
On December 14 2010 10:24 kitaman27 wrote:
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On December 14 2010 10:09 annul wrote:
you can confirm or deny anything you want relating to your own abilities

i would advise the town to read my mod note for gilderoy's flip before placing 100% stock in what people tell you, as even they may be unaware of aspects of their role in the future



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mod note: was going to be told upon first use of any of the five abilities (or end of night 2) that he only actually has the first ability used, whatever it happens to be. i actually told him earlier than this because i realized the role wouldn't work otherwise.


So were the unlynchable and vet abilities considered to be the remaining two of the five abilities, which he needed to activate first?


Probably the three different DT abilities make 5.
why
Profile Joined May 2009
United States215 Posts
December 14 2010 01:42 GMT
#606
Can Mr. Zergling and LunarDestiny just both say that a mod confirmed to each of them that all of them are 100% town? There is always the possibility of a traitor Mason.
why
Profile Joined May 2009
United States215 Posts
December 14 2010 01:46 GMT
#608
(ps breadcrumb is when you fill your old posts with hints as to your role so you can confirm role-claim later, this is especially useful for mod-confirmed Masons )
why
Profile Joined May 2009
United States215 Posts
December 14 2010 02:26 GMT
#620
It seems likely he's one of the two patil sisters.
why
Profile Joined May 2009
United States215 Posts
December 14 2010 02:42 GMT
#626
On December 14 2010 11:31 Kenpachi wrote:
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On December 14 2010 11:26 why wrote:
It seems likely he's one of the two patil sisters.

why?


I don't have a particular reason other than that it seems overpowered to have two mason groups in play and no one else is chiming in with you which makes it likely its a two person group. What's the obvious two person group? Patil sisters. Regardless, I'm willing to hold off on LSB for now based on your word.
why
Profile Joined May 2009
United States215 Posts
December 14 2010 02:54 GMT
#630
It's also weird that Kenpachi is only defending LSB now, and with little provocation, when LSB was attacked plenty yesterday with no defense from Kenpachi. Perhaps LSB and Kenpachi just joined the group on D2? That throws my Patil idea out the window.
why
Profile Joined May 2009
United States215 Posts
December 14 2010 04:01 GMT
#639
The downside seems to be allowing mafia to kill townies that are confirmed to other townies (since people in these groups are nigh confirmed). As it is, LunarDestiny and Mr. Zergling are prime NK targets... On the other hand it would narrow the possible lynch targets by a lot, and potential clear a lot of people. And DT checks can check just one person in a group for the whole group to be confirmed...

In conclusion, I'm not sure.
why
Profile Joined May 2009
United States215 Posts
December 14 2010 04:07 GMT
#642
On December 14 2010 13:02 Mr.Zergling wrote:
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On December 14 2010 12:48 zeks wrote:
On December 14 2010 12:39 LunarDestiny wrote:
On December 14 2010 12:35 oddo123 wrote:
I thought all townies work together in mini-groups where a player knows of the other members in that group. Apparently, I might be wrong bleah =/

This gave me a thought. Annul say that we can not name claim. But what if those who are in mini-groups group/house claim. Lets discuss if group claiming is a good choice.



Yes because for scum to counter claim they'd have to have a group of 2 (or more) which is a huge risk. Counter claiming in general is dangerous anyway because even if they are successful that person will have to die the day after.



Well if we group claim, reds will be forced to counter claim, and if they fail, well to the gallows they go. However if we have successful counterclaims we might end up lynching town


Not all town are in groups. Lockhart/RoL wasn't in a group. We don't know how many groups there are or how many town are in group. So reds don't have to counterclaim, they can just blend in with however many non-group-aligned townies there are, and maybe throw in a fake group or two.
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