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LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 06 2010 20:34 GMT
#60
/in
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 11 2010 06:55 GMT
#203
This game would be confusing to me since I know next to nothing about Harry Potter.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 11 2010 18:58 GMT
#256
Since mayor has no other ability except for day 1 lynch, can we decide who to lynch then vote for someone to do the lynching? This eliminates the possibility that we have a mafia mayor choosing not to lynch a mafia.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 11 2010 23:49 GMT
#285
ROL, can your role prove that you are not mafia?
What factual reason you can provide that makes me think you are not mafia.

I prefer to give day1 lynch to a townie who can prove his innocence with his role.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 12 2010 07:52 GMT
#342
On December 12 2010 14:46 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2010 14:39 orgolove wrote:
Why are you giving any thought to RoL, when he clearly mentioned that he will ignore the majority opinion and vote based on feelings? This is ridiculous! Come on, if someone just comes by and says "hey, vote for me, I'm going to kill whoever I want to kill" you'd be a complete idiot to vote for him, and that's exactly what he's saying. Need I repeat this again?

On December 12 2010 05:11 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I did not once say I would listen to anyone. The masses are stupid and filled with scum and scum implanted ideas.
On December 12 2010 06:01 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
but that is effort I don't want to put into stuff! Its actually not even a hunch, I just want to kill LSB for not hitting incognito/infundiblium in TMM2.


Again, if you didn't get it:
The masses are stupid
Its actually not even a hunch, [b]I just want to kill LSB




Are you really going to vote for someone who openly says he won't be held accountable for whoever he kills?

err EBWOP sorry
I said I would fully be accountable for who I killed btw. Its a burden I would be willing to take on. Look at my above post with my LSB analysis. In this current system if we voted for LSB he would be able to sherk off blame/responsibility because the masses made the decision even though hes the one pulling the trigger. It is really stupid to pretend that it is still a majority lynch, that is like saying America is a true democracy even though someone else is making the final decision. I was willing to take the burden of the MoM kill in deciding who I was going to put down and on top of that I was willing to take responsibility for that outcome. I would be lying if I said that I think a majority decision is always the best way to do it. The mafia is rightfully scared of one good player getting that first kill off and it not belonging to a townie. Its hard to mount a really strong case against someone day 1 and its much easier for the mafia to manipulate a mislynch which is why they would prefer to do exactly what LSB is doing and deferring the mislynch back into the towns hands and allowing us to fuck it up on our own volition, or so we would be led to believe.


So are you suggesting for a private group to decide the lynch?

-If we picked a mafia mayor, his private group would decide to lynch
a non mafia. (bad)

-If we picked a town mayor, he would then pick his private group (quite likely the vet players who shown good understanding in the game).
What makes a private group more favorable to decide the lynch when we have town veteran players without information against mafia veteran players with information. (information refers to knowing who is town and who is mafia).

-My last point is how if they lynch a town, what would we do then? Have the mayor release a list of players involve in making the decision and we pay special attention to them. This is the only benefit of having the private group.


My conclusion is how do we know if the mayor is not mafia. Also can you provide a plan after the private group lynched a townie? I don't see much benefit of having the private lynch just to decide who to lynch for day 1 .
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 12 2010 18:25 GMT
#372
I have mixed feeling about lynching a mayor candidate. On one hand, we have some suspicious candidates who can't appeal to town and decide to drop out. On the other hand, mafia have less incentives to be mayor in this game since mayor does not have basic protections like having bodyguards and not being able to be rolechecked.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 12 2010 18:35 GMT
#376
My opinion of LSB is that he is very suspicious.
1. He is an experience player but he hasn't say anything very useful to town.
2. He ran for mayor because his original plan was having anyone to name claim. It is a very good plan, but it was banned shortly after.
3. I didn't consider that LSB was trying to rolefish. It can very well be a slip up.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 13 2010 01:32 GMT
#476
Again, I don't have a clear lynch choice. But I want to ask Aidnai if he can prove his innocence with his role. If he can and promise to do so within maybe a day of game time, then we should give him the chance to prove himself.

Pandain's sudden post after Meapak calling him out as a lynch possibility is weird. Pandain in all other mafia games tends to be more talkative.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 13 2010 23:42 GMT
#540
Wait, there is double lynch in the game?
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 13 2010 23:53 GMT
#547
But RoL, why would you urge for double lynch before day2 when people received results from night actions? That really came out of the blue.

Even if it is a trap, it is not a logical trap. It seems it proves nothing.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 14 2010 00:03 GMT
#550
WTF. Beneather can't die. WTF
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 14 2010 00:13 GMT
#558
On December 14 2010 09:10 Barundar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2010 09:03 LunarDestiny wrote:
WTF. Beneather can't die. WTF

I'm sorry what?

Mr.zergling and I are in that group. We were planning to use his ability and if we catch something, we would reveal our group to town along with the information.

Mr.Zergling can confirm what I say when he gets on...
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 14 2010 00:17 GMT
#561
On December 14 2010 09:13 LunarDestiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2010 09:10 Barundar wrote:
On December 14 2010 09:03 LunarDestiny wrote:
WTF. Beneather can't die. WTF

I'm sorry what?

Mr.zergling and I are in that group. We were planning to use his ability and if we catch something, we would reveal our group to town along with the information.

Mr.Zergling can confirm what I say when he gets on...

Furthermore, I welcome the mafia to counter claim that I am lying.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 14 2010 00:46 GMT
#582
Also if someone can prove they are town, I will gladly invite you into our circle/forum. In forum, there are information that will prove that Beneather was in our group and the group is 100% town aligned.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 14 2010 01:07 GMT
#591
On December 14 2010 10:05 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2010 10:04 Mr.Zergling wrote:
On December 14 2010 09:13 LunarDestiny wrote:
On December 14 2010 09:10 Barundar wrote:
On December 14 2010 09:03 LunarDestiny wrote:
WTF. Beneather can't die. WTF

I'm sorry what?

Mr.zergling and I are in that group. We were planning to use his ability and if we catch something, we would reveal our group to town along with the information.

Mr.Zergling can confirm what I say when he gets on...


I would indeed like to confirm this, yes I would.


Can you also confirm that you group has an alternate win condition?

I think annul is checking if we violated the rule...
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 14 2010 01:37 GMT
#604
On December 14 2010 10:24 why wrote:
1) Can Mr. Zergling and Lunar Destiny prove that they are mod-confirmed? Like by breadcrumb? Sorry if this has already been addressed.

2) My interpretation is that 3 death eater hits went out, 1 on Amber, 1 on RoL, and 1 on Beneather. RoL survived the hit, but got taken out by a 3rd-party (quite possibly town-aligned since he was garnering a lot of suspicion). I think RoL got hit by death eater because only 1 person has claimed to be hit and because RoL was playing more scummy than normal. A scum would interpret this as trying to make him a less attractive target (you don't NK scummy players) and NK'ed him anyway.

This makes LSB more likely to be scum as RoL was quite vocal in his denunciation.

3) Kenpachi and LSB = mod-confirmed patil sisters? The only thing I can think of that makes his defense make sense (other than them both being scum, of course). In this case your play is REALLY STUPID Kenpachi.


1) We don't need to prove ourself that we are in Beneather. Town knows that Beneather is town and was in a town-aligned group. Mr.Zergling and I claim that we are the remaining members of the group.
If no one counter claims, then we are not lying. I do have a few pms of me chatting with Beneather, don't think that is strong prove.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 14 2010 01:44 GMT
#607
On December 14 2010 10:42 why wrote:
Can Mr. Zergling and LunarDestiny just both say that a mod confirmed to each of them that all of them are 100% town? There is always the possibility of a traitor Mason.

Confirm. Our role pms (annul say in the op there is no lie in them) say that we belong to a town-aligned group.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 14 2010 01:46 GMT
#609
On December 14 2010 10:44 LunarDestiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2010 10:42 why wrote:
Can Mr. Zergling and LunarDestiny just both say that a mod confirmed to each of them that all of them are 100% town? There is always the possibility of a traitor Mason.

Confirm. Our role pms (annul say in the op there is no lie in them) say that we belong to a town-aligned group.

To be more precise, the group is formed by townies only.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 14 2010 01:49 GMT
#611
On December 14 2010 10:46 why wrote:
(ps breadcrumb is when you fill your old posts with hints as to your role so you can confirm role-claim later, this is especially useful for mod-confirmed Masons )

I don't think there is any good "breadcrumb", the only "breadcrumb" I can think of is right before day2 when I tried to defend beneather when RoL said he fell into his "trap"..
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 14 2010 03:11 GMT
#631
I agree we should not argue about my mason group because as of now, we don't have information that help deciding who to lynch.

Why is Kenpachi protecting LSB and why LSB hasn't defend himself?
Kenpachi is very hard to analyze since he acts illogically.
LSB who I consider as veteran player should have gave an explanation why he is town. They may be in a circle and maybe a third member can step in and confirm it.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 14 2010 03:27 GMT
#633
On December 14 2010 12:14 LSB wrote:
Right now I'm just observing what's going on. I left enough hints to lead you in the right direction.

I've already character claimed somewhere in this thread. It's very subtle, but important.

Btw, don't publically state it. Just PM me. (And No, I am not one of the Patils).

Why would you something like that? We started with 23 townies and 8 scums. Most/some of the townies work independently and the 8 scums work together.

That means most/some townies are on their own and mafia works together.
If the townie who work alone can't find your hint, then they won't get the information.
If one of the mafia find your hint, then all mafias get the information.

BTW, I can't find your information either.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 14 2010 03:39 GMT
#636
On December 14 2010 12:35 oddo123 wrote:
I thought all townies work together in mini-groups where a player knows of the other members in that group. Apparently, I might be wrong bleah =/

This gave me a thought. Annul say that we can not name claim. But what if those who are in mini-groups group/house claim. Lets discuss if group claiming is a good choice.

LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 14 2010 04:11 GMT
#645
On December 14 2010 13:10 LSB wrote:
Me, Meapak and RoL were in a group.

Are your group made by the mod or you made them yourself?
Your group has a lot of big name in it.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 14 2010 04:33 GMT
#655
On December 14 2010 13:30 LSB wrote:
I take it that you're okay with me revealing your role?

Take those out if it doesn't benefit town if it was revealed
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 14 2010 04:36 GMT
#658
On December 14 2010 13:35 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2010 13:33 LunarDestiny wrote:
On December 14 2010 13:30 LSB wrote:
I take it that you're okay with me revealing your role?

Take those out if it doesn't benefit town if it was revealed

Last time I took out something I thought wouldn't benefit the town, everyone started harping on me x.x

Ok, let me rephrase that.
Take those out if it hurts town if it was revealed
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 14 2010 04:48 GMT
#661
Well, I can see that RoL talks shit a lot.

-Your private voting is part RoL's idea.
-You guys agreed to push Adinai's lynch. Ended up as failure.

I think I am missing a lot.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 14 2010 06:31 GMT
#743
I DO NOT THINK THAT LYNCHING ORGOLOVE A IS GOOD CHOICE.

Look, LSB claims that both orgolove and LSB both contribute to mafia's KP
LSB, under huge danger of being lynched, role claimed and also SHITS happened.
Orgolove is being lynch because LSB claims he is mafia.

If we lynch LSB: Mafia's KP will be reduce and we will find out if he is telling the truth.
-If LSB is telling the truth, we lynch Orgolove tomorrow (result:2 mafia lynched)
-If LSB is lying (result: 1 mafia lynched, tomorrow's lynch unused)

If we lynch Orgolove: Mafia's KP might or might not be reduce depending on if LSB is lying or not.
-If LSB is telling the truth, we SHOULD lynch LSB tomorrow unless we find another mafia tomorrow.
-If LSB is lying (result: 1 townie lynched, tomorrow's lynch unused).

If we want to reduce mafia's KP, we should Lynch LSB today and base tomorrow's lynch based on if LSB is lying or not.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 14 2010 06:42 GMT
#750
LSB, I want you to be telling the truth. You said that someone of your posts hint your role ability or your "traitor" role. Where are those hints?
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 14 2010 21:19 GMT
#787
On December 15 2010 06:14 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2010 06:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm slightly disturbed no counter bandwagon appeared :/


Its so obvious he's legit, town just sheeped mafia.

If he is legit. Then why he claim he count as .5 mafia KP?
If he is legit, then are his role claim legit as well?

Deconduo, can you explain why lying LSB is a bad idea?
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 14 2010 21:21 GMT
#788
The only danger of lynching LSB is he is lying. His actual role is a townie and he wins if mafia wins.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 15 2010 00:01 GMT
#806
Well... going for orgolove tomorrow.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 15 2010 00:08 GMT
#811
Well, LSB do have a choice of switching side. So there is the possibility that he won't switch on day4. At least we know that orgolove is probably red, unless LSB was siding with the mafia (very likely since LSB didn't know he can switch side on day4.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 15 2010 00:11 GMT
#813
On December 15 2010 09:07 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2010 09:01 LunarDestiny wrote:
Well... going for orgolove tomorrow.

Why?
From previous Annul post:
thegilaboy, deconduo, LSB = 3 on orgolove.

I think we have one or two better options right here.

thegilaboy and deconduo vote oroglove very late after LSB is almost certain to die.
Explain why they voting for orgolove makes them scums
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 15 2010 00:11 GMT
#814
On December 15 2010 09:09 Kenpachi wrote:
wait a second.. is he mafia? because his name is black ~_~

racist. Red is mafia.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 15 2010 00:15 GMT
#818
On December 15 2010 09:14 ilovejonn wrote:
now his name is red and black lol annul edit

It is stated that LSB believe he is a powerless red so I think that is what counts.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 15 2010 00:19 GMT
#822
On December 15 2010 09:15 Airbag wrote:
It says he was not aware of his power until Day 4. Seeing as it is now Night 2, it is completely retarded to go for orgolove at this point.

Show nested quote +
On December 15 2010 09:11 LunarDestiny wrote:
On December 15 2010 09:07 Jackal58 wrote:
On December 15 2010 09:01 LunarDestiny wrote:
Well... going for orgolove tomorrow.

Why?
From previous Annul post:
thegilaboy, deconduo, LSB = 3 on orgolove.

I think we have one or two better options right here.

thegilaboy and deconduo vote oroglove very late after LSB is almost certain to die.
Explain why they voting for orgolove makes them scums



Because mafia prefer to distract/subvert votes rather than directly defend a fellow mafia? Doesn't it make sense that instead of connecting themselves to a mafia that might die, they present a new target and try to split up the town?

I find it weird that you are using the fact that we killed a death eater to try to get the people who got him lynched get lynched. That's bad play LunarDestiny, that makes you suspicious to me.

If I was a mafia, I would bandwagon on lynching LSB and avoid being accused by you. What benefit is there by having thegilaboy and deconduo, if they are mafia, to gain by voting orgolove when there is no way that LSB can be saved.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 15 2010 00:24 GMT
#824
On December 15 2010 09:21 Kenpachi wrote:
okay so if he had contact with Mafia, i assume i will die next

It only means LSB was lying until the end.

You have to explain to us the reason why lynching LSB is bad.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 15 2010 00:29 GMT
#826
On December 15 2010 09:27 Kenpachi wrote:
but thatll force a roleclaim and i dont want that

Well, we won't be lynching until tomorrow. You have a lot of time.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 15 2010 00:41 GMT
#829
On December 15 2010 09:39 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2010 09:01 LunarDestiny wrote:
Well... going for orgolove tomorrow.

And why would we do this? Orgolove called this from the start.

I changed my mind on the same page after I reread the mod post and figured out that LSB believe he is normal scum.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 15 2010 02:34 GMT
#842
This is the quote I was replying to.
On December 15 2010 09:15 Airbag wrote:
It says he was not aware of his power until Day 4. Seeing as it is now Night 2, it is completely retarded to go for orgolove at this point.

Show nested quote +
On December 15 2010 09:11 LunarDestiny wrote:
On December 15 2010 09:07 Jackal58 wrote:
On December 15 2010 09:01 LunarDestiny wrote:
Well... going for orgolove tomorrow.

Why?
From previous Annul post:
thegilaboy, deconduo, LSB = 3 on orgolove.

I think we have one or two better options right here.

thegilaboy and deconduo vote oroglove very late after LSB is almost certain to die.
Explain why they voting for orgolove makes them scums



Because mafia prefer to distract/subvert votes rather than directly defend a fellow mafia? Doesn't it make sense that instead of connecting themselves to a mafia that might die, they present a new target and try to split up the town?

I find it weird that you are using the fact that we killed a death eater to try to get the people who got him lynched get lynched. That's bad play LunarDestiny, that makes you suspicious to me.

My point is not that thegilaboy and deconduo is town. My point is that we do not want to base on the fact that thegilaboy and deconduo voting for orgolove to say that they are behaving like mafia.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 15 2010 02:46 GMT
#845
I want to discuss should we post pms we have with LSB.

If LSB did release those information with mafia, then there is no reason to hide it.
I am worry that LSB didn't share those information with mafia and he tried, at least a bit, to play town because he suspects his character Snape will or can betray mafia at some point in game. He even claimed his role is traitor.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 15 2010 03:16 GMT
#848
This is what annul post when LSB is lynched:

LSB the Severus Snape is dead.

+ Show Spoiler +
you are Severus Snape.

the red team is:

(names obviously edited out.)

MOD NOTE: believes he is a powerless red. at dawn of day 4 is told he has the choice to align with dumbledore. if he switches sides, he is required not to give the list of death eaters to the town. will no longer count towards mafia KP.


LSB is definitely lying about what he know including:
His role (he probably made it up or guess because his character is Snape)
His winning condition (at that point, his winning condition states that he wins with mafia. He also could have made it up or guess because his character is Snape)

So we still have to base the validity of his claim that orgolove is mafia on which side LSB is trying to help.

-LSB's winning condition at time is mafia winning.
-annul claims there is no lie in role pm.

I will conclude that LSB also thinks his winning condition is mafia victory. So what he said about orgolove is mafia is probably false.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 15 2010 06:13 GMT
#858
I don't know about Kenpachi. Last time I played with him was in insane mafia. Even though he was pro town, he acted similar to what he is acting now during the entire game.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 16 2010 00:00 GMT
#887
I made a deal with kenpachi that he will namecheck me and say it after day3. This is a plan I proposed to him because the only way that kenpachi knows LSB is Snape if he is a name check dt. It could also be the fact that he is mafia and LSB told him that he is Snape. By having kenpachi saying my character name, it will prove that he is indeed a name check dt. It could also be the fact he is with the mafia and they have the ability or fooled a townie to use the ability for them which is the risk of this plan.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 16 2010 00:30 GMT
#891
Lets go annul. Refreshing with my F5 key so many times already.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 16 2010 02:12 GMT
#899
Say my name Kenpachi. Don't wait or it will seem like you get information from someone else.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 16 2010 02:44 GMT
#907
On December 16 2010 11:23 Kenpachi wrote:
Lunar is.. Padma Patil

I got annul's approval to claim. Yes, I am Padma Patil and my alternative winning condition I win if Parvati Patil wins.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 16 2010 02:50 GMT
#909
As another check for Kenpachi:
Anyone, other than Kenpachi, who was told to name check me, please say so or pm me. It is likely that you are used by the mafia in order to save kenpachi.

If no one comes forth, I will believe that Kenpachi is legit.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 16 2010 03:03 GMT
#911
On December 16 2010 12:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2010 11:50 LunarDestiny wrote:
As another check for Kenpachi:
Anyone, other than Kenpachi, who was told to name check me, please say so or pm me. It is likely that you are used by the mafia in order to save kenpachi.

If no one comes forth, I will believe that Kenpachi is legit.

Kenpachi is green. I can guarantee it.

Green as in vanilla town. He is not a dt?
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 16 2010 03:41 GMT
#913
On December 16 2010 11:44 LunarDestiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2010 11:23 Kenpachi wrote:
Lunar is.. Padma Patil

I got annul's approval to claim. Yes, I am Padma Patil and my alternative winning condition I win if Parvati Patil wins.

Let me give the entirety of my winning condition:

I win if Parvati Patil, by any manner, wins.

I don't know how to interpret the last part. I did some research and Parvati is 100% town.

Well, lets get back to decide our next lynch.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 16 2010 04:04 GMT
#921
On December 16 2010 12:48 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2010 12:41 LunarDestiny wrote:
On December 16 2010 11:44 LunarDestiny wrote:
On December 16 2010 11:23 Kenpachi wrote:
Lunar is.. Padma Patil

I got annul's approval to claim. Yes, I am Padma Patil and my alternative winning condition I win if Parvati Patil wins.

Let me give the entirety of my winning condition:

I win if Parvati Patil, by any manner, wins.

I don't know how to interpret the last part. I did some research and Parvati is 100% town.

Well, lets get back to decide our next lynch.


Your claim makes no sense.

Why would your alternate win condition be: "I win if another town wins"

The only way this makes sense if one of the two of you are scum. Am I missing something?

Are you aware of your twins identity?


My winning condition is as it is stated. Interpret however you want.
Also, I don't know who my sister is.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 16 2010 04:13 GMT
#923
In the case of my circle, Annul had to say it explicitly that the circle is made out of all townies. So I presume that circles with both town and mafia exist. In another word, if your role pm didn't say your circle is made out of all townies, beware.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 16 2010 18:21 GMT
#953
In ravenclaw, only I have an alternative win condition. Well, Mr. Zergling and beneather never say anything about their win conditions so I assume they have none.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 17 2010 01:57 GMT
#991
Pandain does look suspicious, but he is posting even less in pokemafia.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 17 2010 19:14 GMT
#1038
Last night when Dr.H start defending Pandain about his lack of activeness and his busy laddering, I suspected something. Now, Kitaman is very desperate to lynch a liar, smurf, and role fisher.

Liar: (one case)
I can confirm that Dr.H PMd me at the start of the game (as Airbag) posing as a noob. He was asking some questions, saying he wanted to team up with a veteran to stay alive. I am by no means a veteran, and he was trying to sweet talk me to get my trust. After watching him post, I had determined that he was most certainly a smurf. When I called him out on it, he eventually told me that he was DocH. He also made a claim early that he was able to protect people, so I figured he was Poppy. When talking to Kitaman, he said that he had a DT who had found the real Poppy, and it was not Airbag/Dr.H.

Smurf: From Airbag to Dr.H. Can anyone give me a reason why he switch back to his real account? The first thing he do after switching back is to protect Pandain.

The above are just some reasons I can think of for now. I will be posting more if I found something.

By lynching Dr.H, we also get to know if Pandain is town or mafia. If Dr.H is mafia, then Pandain who he try so hard to protect is also mafia.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 17 2010 19:16 GMT
#1039
When I say "Kitaman is very desperate to lynch a liar, smurf, and role fisher," I was trying to say that it is uncommon that a mafia tries so hard and even willing to wager his life to get someone lynched.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 17 2010 19:23 GMT
#1040
Triple post...

The quote above is from jcarlsoniv, not me.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 17 2010 19:57 GMT
#1044
From jcarlsoniv:
I can confirm that Dr.H PMd me at the start of the game (as Airbag) posing as a noob. He was asking some questions, saying he wanted to team up with a veteran to stay alive. I am by no means a veteran, and he was trying to sweet talk me to get my trust. After watching him post, I had determined that he was most certainly a smurf. When I called him out on it, he eventually told me that he was DocH. He also made a claim early that he was able to protect people, so I figured he was Poppy. When talking to Kitaman, he said that he had a DT who had found the real Poppy, and it was not Airbag/Dr.H.

We really need Kitaman's dt to claim now. If the dt claims, we will be certain that either the dt or Dr.H is lying.
If the dt is telling the truth, we kill a mafia in exchange for a dt to be out in the open which I think it a good trade.
If the dt is lying, we lynch a medic in exchange for a mafia lynch tomorrow. This is not as good but at least we get a compensation.

I don't think we shouldn't lynch someone because they claim a certain role.

There is an alternative plan to prove Dr.H is town:
Kenpachi can name check Dr.H.
And Dr.H can protect Kenpachi.

This plan will ensure Kenpachi's safety and we can confirm Dr.H's alignment.
If Kenpachi dies, then we lynch Dr.H tomorrow. The risk is the mafia can roleblock or bus either of them to make it not work.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 17 2010 21:35 GMT
#1054
Something don't make sense here. The reasons that we are lynching Dr.H is because:

1. He defends Pandain. We can't use this to determine if he is town or mafia.

2. jcarlsoniv's post
I can confirm that Dr.H PMd me at the start of the game (as Airbag) posing as a noob. He was asking some questions, saying he wanted to team up with a veteran to stay alive. I am by no means a veteran, and he was trying to sweet talk me to get my trust. After watching him post, I had determined that he was most certainly a smurf. When I called him out on it, he eventually told me that he was DocH. He also made a claim early that he was able to protect people, so I figured he was Poppy. When talking to Kitaman, he said that he had a DT who had found the real Poppy, and it was not Airbag/Dr.H.

This post shows us that Dr.H claimed to jcarlsoniv to be Poppy. jcarlsoniv was told by Kitaman who was told by a dt that another Poppy was found.

There's too many loopholes here.
If either Kitaman or the dt is mafia, then lynching Dr.H would be stupid.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 17 2010 21:39 GMT
#1056
Question to Annul:
1. If a person is alignment checked as red, can he be a blue?

2. Can a bus driver switch a blue with a death eater, is it possible that he will get a bogus result?
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 17 2010 21:50 GMT
#1060
If exposing a dt can confirm we lynching a mafia and reduce mafia's KP by 1, I can fine with it.

Yes, the post is a defense to Dr.H.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 17 2010 21:56 GMT
#1065
Coag, you are not helping. Are you saying I am mafia or I am disillusion that I am defending Dr.H?

Back on topic:
Annul clarified the rules a page back. Can anyone find any loophole to this plan?
Kenpachi name checks Dr.H.
Dr.H protects Kenpachi.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 17 2010 22:02 GMT
#1068
Kitaman, have your dt personally claim to me and I will prove that I am town to him also.

If my prove is flawed in that it is not enough to prove I am 100% town, then either one of you can tell town. If I am mafia, town also knows Mr.Zergling is mafia.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 17 2010 22:06 GMT
#1070
On December 18 2010 07:02 Barundar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 06:56 LunarDestiny wrote:
Coag, you are not helping. Are you saying I am mafia or I am disillusion that I am defending Dr.H?

Back on topic:
Annul clarified the rules a page back. Can anyone find any loophole to this plan?
Kenpachi name checks Dr.H.
Dr.H protects Kenpachi.

They kill DrH?

Then they will do us a favor and stop every suspicion we have on Dr.H.
Yes, we lose a medic but Mafia will have to use 1 KP on him. So another townie will be spared.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 17 2010 22:09 GMT
#1074
A someone immediately claimed dt to me...
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 17 2010 22:40 GMT
#1086
On December 18 2010 07:02 LunarDestiny wrote:
Kitaman, have your dt personally claim to me and I will prove that I am town to him also.


If my prove is flawed in that it is not enough to prove I am 100% town, then either one of you can tell town. If I am mafia, town also knows Mr.Zergling is mafia.

Pandain, read this again please. Don't claim to me if you are not Kitaman's dt.

Dude tricked me into released the forum... I will release it if Pandain is lynch and is mafia.

Pandain, if you are town...
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 17 2010 22:51 GMT
#1089
We got to lynch Pandain since he is the most suspicious. I even reveal my forum to him.

If he is mafia, every mafia members know of it.

Pandain, if you are town, don't post it.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 17 2010 23:09 GMT
#1093
How do we know you are not lying?
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 17 2010 23:12 GMT
#1097
On December 18 2010 08:10 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 08:09 LunarDestiny wrote:
How do we know you are not lying?

You don't
But I'm telling you you're going to lynch a DT

You have to understand that every mafia that is going to be lynched in 1 hour will say things like this.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 17 2010 23:27 GMT
#1116
On December 18 2010 08:21 Barundar wrote:
Is pandain the safest lynch at this point?

I say yes.

He did almost nothing in the game. Then a lot of people voted to lynch him.

The moment I say, "If you are Kitaman's dt, please claim to me" Pandain claimed to me immediately. But he is not Kitaman's dt.

So he went from lurkering, to being lynch. The moment he saw a chance to survive, he suddenly becomes active like shit. Now he is saying that a tracker/watcher contacted him. WTF.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 17 2010 23:39 GMT
#1121
On December 18 2010 08:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Kenpachi needs to vote now. Even if it's for himself we cannot have him modkilled

If kenpachi dies, there goes the plan of them using night actions on one another.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 17 2010 23:47 GMT
#1124
I change my vote.

A town confirmed dt claim to me and say that he checked Dr.H and he is mafia.
Annul also say that mafia can not buss dt check and any means.
So the dt check is 100% legit.

Dr.H is a sure lynch.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 17 2010 23:51 GMT
#1128
The dt who claimed have a lot of people in assoication with him. If he is wrong and Dr.H is town, there are a lot of potential suspect that we can use for tomorrow's lynch. So there is a lot of benefit by lynching Dr.H.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 17 2010 23:53 GMT
#1131
On December 18 2010 08:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 08:47 LunarDestiny wrote:
I change my vote.

A town confirmed dt claim to me and say that he checked Dr.H and he is mafia.
Annul also say that mafia can not buss dt check and any means.
So the dt check is 100% legit.

Dr.H is a sure lynch.

He also said that if I were checked I would come back town and that is impossible that I returned a death-eater aligned result.

Whoever said that is lying.

Then there will be many sure mafia lynches for days after.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 17 2010 23:59 GMT
#1138
On December 18 2010 08:47 LunarDestiny wrote:
I change my vote.

A town confirmed dt claim to me and say that he checked Dr.H and he is mafia.
Annul also say that mafia can not buss dt check and any means.
So the dt check is 100% legit.

Dr.H is a sure lynch.

MISTAKE.
The dt checked someone other than Dr.H got Poppy.
Dr.H claims Poppy.
Dr.H is lying.
Time to think again,...
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 18 2010 00:34 GMT
#1161
On December 18 2010 07:13 annul wrote:
3 nonvoters: kenpachi, ilovejonn, node. less than 2 hours to go.

bedtime. if they do not vote by the deadline, they're all dead.

ill put up night post when i wake up. if its really significantly late then ill extend night or someting.

voting is extremely close today so if you are on a placeholder vote, remember to do something with it

hmm... how long will the wait be.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 19 2010 22:29 GMT
#1259
It seems that there is only 2 deaths, so one of mafia's KP failed or they stack KP which I think is unlikely.

I don't want to talk so much during night because I don't want to give information to mafia.

Lets me share some information now:
Zeks the Nymphadora Tonks contacted on day 2 and shared his role ability with me. At the time, I didn't trust him much because he said his ability work only 50% of the time. He could be a mafia who try to get information from me.
i feel safe enough to rc with you - interpret this however you want.

I am Nymphadora Tonks shapeshifter

my ability is essentially a modified martyr (shapeshift)

if i shapeshift into you, and an action is done on you
there is 50% it happens to me instead

if i shsapeshift into you and you are invisibility cloaked, and an action is done on you, then the action 100% happens to me


On night 3, he also contacted me and asked me who should he use his ability on. I was still uncomfortable enough to share information with him and asked him to use his ability on lurking townies (aka lurkers) because most night kills are used on lurking townies.
You have a protective role, so you should try to absorb from mafia. Looking back at past history, mafia have a tendency to target lurking townies to avoid protection from medics.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From zeks:
I claimed to kitaman27

Who should I use my ability on tonight?
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 19 2010 22:41 GMT
#1266
On December 20 2010 07:07 orgolove wrote:
I don't get why DrH became a sudden target of everyone's investigations. I was afk for about half a day, and suddenly half the town wants him dead. Looking back, all I can see is that there's layers upon layers of lies.

One of you are claiming that one of your friends investigated someone else and he was doctor, and that friend said that that someone he investigated was not DrH, and that someone who knew his friend knew that DrH was not Poppy then told you kitaman.

By comparison, we saw that Amber was not a veteran as he had claimed, and thus he had to have been protected by a medic. Further Kenpachi was modkilled, not killed by a mafia. So we don't know for sure if DrH is actually lying. DrH was also one of the instrumental voices (as AirBag) in lynching LSB, who turned out to be 100% red.

This is MYLO. I am as suspicious of DrH (or any one of you) as anyone else. But I'm not going to vote to lynch anyone unless we get something 100% concrete. And that's especially considering how many LIES there were in this game - you might still be lying right now, and trying to start a bandwagon early in the day to seal the deal.

I will assure you that the dt who checked the other medic is town and thus, not lying.
So it goes like this:
Dr.H claimed to be Poppy.
A town dt checked a person who is not Dr.H as Poppy
The town dt contacted kitaman and say he checked Poppy who is not Dr.H.
Dr.H lied about being Poppy.
We should lynch Dr.H because he claimed to be Poppy but we found out he is lying. Also, Dr.H still says he is Poppy.

Both the dt and Kitaman pmed me.
The dt confirmed that he is Kitaman's dt.
Kitaman confirmed that dt's name.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 19 2010 23:06 GMT
#1287
On December 20 2010 08:03 CubEdIn wrote:
Meh, my power is a bit odd.
I can't tell who checks my target, or what they do. But once I check someone, I can see actions against them for the rest of the game (or until I die).

If any of the other "watches" could be verified I would have said something. But the other watches were rather useless.

Night #1: LSB. He was visited by someone.
Night #2: Airbag. He was not visited by anyone.
Night #3: Airbag. He was visited by someone & zeks - he was also visited by someone, obviously.

I know it's convenient, but I checked LSB because he was scummy as hell. And I checked zeks because he seemed very pro-town, but in last night's debacle he chose not to vote, which I found very suspicious. So yeah.

I can check whoever you want me to check, and I'll still have my sights on Airbag.

The Kitaman' dt got the same ability.
Hey, I am kitamin's DT. Well...kind of a DT. I can use my ability on one player and then I will know what they do for the rest of the game. I found the medic, for obvious reasons I won't reveal him.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 19 2010 23:58 GMT
#1303
On December 20 2010 08:51 Barundar wrote:
I think Kitaman is lying about extra DT and whatnot. Based on his dedication, Jcarl "confirmed" him. Obvious he is Voldemort or real Poppy, and at the moment it's down to a flip between him and DrH.

Kitaman said DrH and Pandain was scum. DrH said Pandain was not scum. Kitaman could have been lying about both. DrH could have been right about Pandain beceause he was scum.

Town would be safer to find scum elsewhere.

vote Coagulation

You may be new to mafia but Annul stated it is MYLO. It stands for "Mislynch and lose."
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 19 2010 23:59 GMT
#1304
Potentially MYLO...
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 20 2010 00:18 GMT
#1308
I must not be aware of something, but where that list came from?
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 20 2010 03:33 GMT
#1316
SHIT!!! Someone just nameclaimed to me...
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 20 2010 03:36 GMT
#1319
On December 20 2010 07:37 annul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2010 07:29 LunarDestiny wrote:
It seems that there is only 2 deaths, so one of mafia's KP failed or they stack KP which I think is unlikely.

I don't want to talk so much during night because I don't want to give information to mafia.

Lets me share some information now:
Zeks the Nymphadora Tonks contacted on day 2 and shared his role ability with me. At the time, I didn't trust him much because he said his ability work only 50% of the time. He could be a mafia who try to get information from me.
i feel safe enough to rc with you - interpret this however you want.

I am Nymphadora Tonks shapeshifter

my ability is essentially a modified martyr (shapeshift)

if i shapeshift into you, and an action is done on you
there is 50% it happens to me instead

if i shsapeshift into you and you are invisibility cloaked, and an action is done on you, then the action 100% happens to me


On night 3, he also contacted me and asked me who should he use his ability on. I was still uncomfortable enough to share information with him and asked him to use his ability on lurking townies (aka lurkers) because most night kills are used on lurking townies.
You have a protective role, so you should try to absorb from mafia. Looking back at past history, mafia have a tendency to target lurking townies to avoid protection from medics.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From zeks:
I claimed to kitaman27

Who should I use my ability on tonight?


if this is true, then he was cheating.

next time someone blatantly cheats in PM land, report it. they get modkilled.

Shit.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 21 2010 21:13 GMT
#1371
We finally got Dr.H dammit.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 21 2010 21:35 GMT
#1379
On December 22 2010 06:29 CubEdIn wrote:
Does anyone else find it weird that nobody made a stand for DrH this turn?

I mean, it's not like there was an "Either Pandain or DrH" situation. They were tied in votes but the same points could be made against DrH's lynch whether Pandain was blue or red.

Anway good for town, bad for oddo. I practically begged for people to stop being afk.
Next stop for modkill, tube? Not because he voted for me, but it seems like the natural order of things.

Tube is very likely to be mafia. We can conclude that tube is a lurker who have little time to play.

A town lurker would go read some posts and go with the bangwagon.
A mafia lurker would also read some posts but will hesitate to vote on his fellow mafia.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 22 2010 20:33 GMT
#1399
LOL. Noob mafia.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 22 2010 20:39 GMT
#1401
On December 23 2010 05:38 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
So did the mafia forget to PM the night hits? Or do we have a damn good town all of a sudden?

I like to think that losing Dr.H is a big blow to them.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 22 2010 21:31 GMT
#1415
Mr.Zergling won't die tonight.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 22 2010 21:36 GMT
#1417
Dead forum:
http://placeboplacebo.forumotion.com/t2-harry-potter-tl-mafia

Mr.Zergling is a female jailer.
Our group ability is surviving for one night if one of us is hit.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 22 2010 21:39 GMT
#1422
Role list now. I want to know why node betrayed mafia. Was he one of them?
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 22 2010 22:02 GMT
#1452
I modkilled my sister for justice.
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