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LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 06 2010 20:34 GMT
#60
/in
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 11 2010 06:55 GMT
#203
This game would be confusing to me since I know next to nothing about Harry Potter.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 11 2010 18:58 GMT
#256
Since mayor has no other ability except for day 1 lynch, can we decide who to lynch then vote for someone to do the lynching? This eliminates the possibility that we have a mafia mayor choosing not to lynch a mafia.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 11 2010 23:49 GMT
#285
ROL, can your role prove that you are not mafia?
What factual reason you can provide that makes me think you are not mafia.

I prefer to give day1 lynch to a townie who can prove his innocence with his role.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 12 2010 07:52 GMT
#342
On December 12 2010 14:46 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2010 14:39 orgolove wrote:
Why are you giving any thought to RoL, when he clearly mentioned that he will ignore the majority opinion and vote based on feelings? This is ridiculous! Come on, if someone just comes by and says "hey, vote for me, I'm going to kill whoever I want to kill" you'd be a complete idiot to vote for him, and that's exactly what he's saying. Need I repeat this again?

On December 12 2010 05:11 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I did not once say I would listen to anyone. The masses are stupid and filled with scum and scum implanted ideas.
On December 12 2010 06:01 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
but that is effort I don't want to put into stuff! Its actually not even a hunch, I just want to kill LSB for not hitting incognito/infundiblium in TMM2.


Again, if you didn't get it:
The masses are stupid
Its actually not even a hunch, [b]I just want to kill LSB




Are you really going to vote for someone who openly says he won't be held accountable for whoever he kills?

err EBWOP sorry
I said I would fully be accountable for who I killed btw. Its a burden I would be willing to take on. Look at my above post with my LSB analysis. In this current system if we voted for LSB he would be able to sherk off blame/responsibility because the masses made the decision even though hes the one pulling the trigger. It is really stupid to pretend that it is still a majority lynch, that is like saying America is a true democracy even though someone else is making the final decision. I was willing to take the burden of the MoM kill in deciding who I was going to put down and on top of that I was willing to take responsibility for that outcome. I would be lying if I said that I think a majority decision is always the best way to do it. The mafia is rightfully scared of one good player getting that first kill off and it not belonging to a townie. Its hard to mount a really strong case against someone day 1 and its much easier for the mafia to manipulate a mislynch which is why they would prefer to do exactly what LSB is doing and deferring the mislynch back into the towns hands and allowing us to fuck it up on our own volition, or so we would be led to believe.


So are you suggesting for a private group to decide the lynch?

-If we picked a mafia mayor, his private group would decide to lynch
a non mafia. (bad)

-If we picked a town mayor, he would then pick his private group (quite likely the vet players who shown good understanding in the game).
What makes a private group more favorable to decide the lynch when we have town veteran players without information against mafia veteran players with information. (information refers to knowing who is town and who is mafia).

-My last point is how if they lynch a town, what would we do then? Have the mayor release a list of players involve in making the decision and we pay special attention to them. This is the only benefit of having the private group.


My conclusion is how do we know if the mayor is not mafia. Also can you provide a plan after the private group lynched a townie? I don't see much benefit of having the private lynch just to decide who to lynch for day 1 .
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 12 2010 18:25 GMT
#372
I have mixed feeling about lynching a mayor candidate. On one hand, we have some suspicious candidates who can't appeal to town and decide to drop out. On the other hand, mafia have less incentives to be mayor in this game since mayor does not have basic protections like having bodyguards and not being able to be rolechecked.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 12 2010 18:35 GMT
#376
My opinion of LSB is that he is very suspicious.
1. He is an experience player but he hasn't say anything very useful to town.
2. He ran for mayor because his original plan was having anyone to name claim. It is a very good plan, but it was banned shortly after.
3. I didn't consider that LSB was trying to rolefish. It can very well be a slip up.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 13 2010 01:32 GMT
#476
Again, I don't have a clear lynch choice. But I want to ask Aidnai if he can prove his innocence with his role. If he can and promise to do so within maybe a day of game time, then we should give him the chance to prove himself.

Pandain's sudden post after Meapak calling him out as a lynch possibility is weird. Pandain in all other mafia games tends to be more talkative.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 13 2010 23:42 GMT
#540
Wait, there is double lynch in the game?
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 13 2010 23:53 GMT
#547
But RoL, why would you urge for double lynch before day2 when people received results from night actions? That really came out of the blue.

Even if it is a trap, it is not a logical trap. It seems it proves nothing.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 14 2010 00:03 GMT
#550
WTF. Beneather can't die. WTF
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 14 2010 00:13 GMT
#558
On December 14 2010 09:10 Barundar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2010 09:03 LunarDestiny wrote:
WTF. Beneather can't die. WTF

I'm sorry what?

Mr.zergling and I are in that group. We were planning to use his ability and if we catch something, we would reveal our group to town along with the information.

Mr.Zergling can confirm what I say when he gets on...
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 14 2010 00:17 GMT
#561
On December 14 2010 09:13 LunarDestiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2010 09:10 Barundar wrote:
On December 14 2010 09:03 LunarDestiny wrote:
WTF. Beneather can't die. WTF

I'm sorry what?

Mr.zergling and I are in that group. We were planning to use his ability and if we catch something, we would reveal our group to town along with the information.

Mr.Zergling can confirm what I say when he gets on...

Furthermore, I welcome the mafia to counter claim that I am lying.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 14 2010 00:46 GMT
#582
Also if someone can prove they are town, I will gladly invite you into our circle/forum. In forum, there are information that will prove that Beneather was in our group and the group is 100% town aligned.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 14 2010 01:07 GMT
#591
On December 14 2010 10:05 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2010 10:04 Mr.Zergling wrote:
On December 14 2010 09:13 LunarDestiny wrote:
On December 14 2010 09:10 Barundar wrote:
On December 14 2010 09:03 LunarDestiny wrote:
WTF. Beneather can't die. WTF

I'm sorry what?

Mr.zergling and I are in that group. We were planning to use his ability and if we catch something, we would reveal our group to town along with the information.

Mr.Zergling can confirm what I say when he gets on...


I would indeed like to confirm this, yes I would.


Can you also confirm that you group has an alternate win condition?

I think annul is checking if we violated the rule...
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 14 2010 01:37 GMT
#604
On December 14 2010 10:24 why wrote:
1) Can Mr. Zergling and Lunar Destiny prove that they are mod-confirmed? Like by breadcrumb? Sorry if this has already been addressed.

2) My interpretation is that 3 death eater hits went out, 1 on Amber, 1 on RoL, and 1 on Beneather. RoL survived the hit, but got taken out by a 3rd-party (quite possibly town-aligned since he was garnering a lot of suspicion). I think RoL got hit by death eater because only 1 person has claimed to be hit and because RoL was playing more scummy than normal. A scum would interpret this as trying to make him a less attractive target (you don't NK scummy players) and NK'ed him anyway.

This makes LSB more likely to be scum as RoL was quite vocal in his denunciation.

3) Kenpachi and LSB = mod-confirmed patil sisters? The only thing I can think of that makes his defense make sense (other than them both being scum, of course). In this case your play is REALLY STUPID Kenpachi.


1) We don't need to prove ourself that we are in Beneather. Town knows that Beneather is town and was in a town-aligned group. Mr.Zergling and I claim that we are the remaining members of the group.
If no one counter claims, then we are not lying. I do have a few pms of me chatting with Beneather, don't think that is strong prove.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 14 2010 01:44 GMT
#607
On December 14 2010 10:42 why wrote:
Can Mr. Zergling and LunarDestiny just both say that a mod confirmed to each of them that all of them are 100% town? There is always the possibility of a traitor Mason.

Confirm. Our role pms (annul say in the op there is no lie in them) say that we belong to a town-aligned group.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 14 2010 01:46 GMT
#609
On December 14 2010 10:44 LunarDestiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2010 10:42 why wrote:
Can Mr. Zergling and LunarDestiny just both say that a mod confirmed to each of them that all of them are 100% town? There is always the possibility of a traitor Mason.

Confirm. Our role pms (annul say in the op there is no lie in them) say that we belong to a town-aligned group.

To be more precise, the group is formed by townies only.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 14 2010 01:49 GMT
#611
On December 14 2010 10:46 why wrote:
(ps breadcrumb is when you fill your old posts with hints as to your role so you can confirm role-claim later, this is especially useful for mod-confirmed Masons )

I don't think there is any good "breadcrumb", the only "breadcrumb" I can think of is right before day2 when I tried to defend beneather when RoL said he fell into his "trap"..
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 14 2010 03:11 GMT
#631
I agree we should not argue about my mason group because as of now, we don't have information that help deciding who to lynch.

Why is Kenpachi protecting LSB and why LSB hasn't defend himself?
Kenpachi is very hard to analyze since he acts illogically.
LSB who I consider as veteran player should have gave an explanation why he is town. They may be in a circle and maybe a third member can step in and confirm it.
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