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![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/CB59L.jpg) Mad that we haven't won a game for such a long time? Reason Number one two three four five: I win games for the town. There have been 5 recent town victories and I had a hand in all of them + Show Spoiler + Slightly Embellished Don't lose yo village: I put together the pieces and guarented victory And Then There Were None(RAM) I kill everyone else. And as town I win with Radfield TL Mafia XXX I come up with a giant plan that the town use and the mafia panics and kills me day one. Pick Your Power Mafia 2!: I picked traitor. As traitor I get our most important mafia member killed, and also the SK killed. Enough deaths meant the mafia lost Team Melee Mini Mafia II: As scum I am imediatly identified. Our team has one of the members claim doctor... and get killed. Our team then does a noobie mistake and looses. Simply put. I lose as Mafia. And as town I help the town win. Vote me for mayor if you want to win! | ||
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On December 11 2010 11:28 ilovejonn wrote: i am a total noob to this game and have no clue whats going on... =[ Vote LSB! I'll help you win! | ||
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What will I do as mayor I will hold a secrete ballot for the first elections. And I will post who voted for who afterwards. You know, mafia loves to redirect the first election? This will make it harder for them to. This is important for many reasons. Say we're going to lynch inactives. One is mafia, one is town Mafia: "Yo! Lets bandwagon this guy!" Town: "We'll their both inactive so I guess I'll vote for the town" Annul: "You guys lynched a townie. Sheep =P" Now. Imagine my system LSB: "Person A and Person B are inactive, please send me pm for who you vote for" Town sends PMs. Each person has about a 50% chance of dieng. Mafia doesn't have that much influence. Annul: "This person is mafia! Woot Woot!" In addition, I will not be able to influence the vote because I will post who voted for who afterwards. So if you see something messed up, you can call me out of it. (Of course, this also means that we got a great way to catch mafia). | ||
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Your just mad that I killed you. BTW. Another one of my accomplishments! I lynched the SK!!!!! | ||
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On December 11 2010 11:47 annul wrote: NEW RULE YOU CANNOT CLAIM YOUR NAME. IF YOUR NAME IS REVEALED BY SOME ABILITY, YOU MAY FIGHT IT (OR ACCEPT IT), BUT THAT IS THE ONLY EXCEPTION. it was revealed to me that the strategy of "omfg mass name claim" would break the game. so that isnt allowed. Annnd that's the noise of my plan being ruined. | ||
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On December 11 2010 11:51 CubEdIn wrote: Let me tell you the loophole in your plan there, buddy. Say you're mafia. People choose two people to lynch, townie and mafia. You rig the "anonymous" votes and lynch the townie, even though most people voted for the mafia. You can never be checked/blamed for that since people agreed to secret votes. So yeah, that's not gonna be in the best interest of town IMO. In addition, I will not be able to influence the vote because I will post who voted for who afterwards. So if you see something messed up, you can call me out of it. (Of course, this also means that we got a great way to catch mafia). People will be like, "YOU ARE WRONG!" if I try to manipulate votes. | ||
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On December 11 2010 12:04 CubEdIn wrote: Oh right, I didn't read that part, but it still gives you a certain degree of manipulation by hiding some mafia votes, if you are mafia. Like say the townie is winning by 7 votes, you switch 3 of the mafia votes to hide them, the difference is less significant, town is more confused. Just saying tho, I don't really care since it's just one night. Firstly, vote manipulation is always done by the mafia. In public it can be done easily. All the mafia has to do is make sure they either vote for other people or push a townie bandwagon. In private, they won't be able to predict who is going to be lynched. Secondly, if I'm mafia, you can examine the votes a wee bit more carefully. This way you'll have a better indication of who is mafia. See? Even if I'm mafia it's better for you! Thirdly, I'll accept someone to be the 'auditor' who also recieves votes | ||
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On December 11 2010 12:17 Beneather wrote: What is this auditor position and what is it worth to us? Whatever it is it should be voted from the town, if the MoM does choose it could be a fellow Mafia and both would have the biggest influence on the town. How about 2nd place in the mayor elections become with auditor? Here's how I imagine it would work. I would compare the votes that I get with the Auditor. If there is any discrepancies we can release it to the public/point out why. It further ensures the integrity of the private voting elections. Why private vote? Public vote is easily manipulated by the mafia. You will still be getting the same information, just our Day 1 vote will have a higher chance of hitting a mafia. + Show Spoiler + If the town really really wants it, I can host alternative forms of votes. Normal Voting Reasoned Voting- You must give a good reason for your vote for it to be counted. Runoff Elections- This way we get more information about people's voting patterns | ||
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The voting 'flaws' that I'm trying to work out is 1) Ability for mafia to quickly form a bandwagon and lynch someone 2) Ability for mafia to hide their votes on random other people | ||
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On December 11 2010 13:50 tube wrote: in retrospect, smurfs are probably: airbag (talks alot, and makes good arguments while he tries to feign some innocence) and jackal58 (is trying to look completely ignorant) this is REALLY suspicious, why does someone have to add this for their persuasion? looks like a scum slip-up tbh Read the rest of the post btw. On December 11 2010 14:13 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: sup guys! LSB, if we so asked it would you kill yourself upon being elected? Of course not. I would then default to the second highest vote. On December 11 2010 14:42 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: <3 sorry I will stop with the argument! I would rather establish smurfs with alternate play styles and run with a few different accounts than constantly making new names and asking for access and jumping through all the hoops that go with that -__-; ______ on topic. vote for me if you want, I will kill LSB day one! That is my platform. Legit, that is my platform. Upon being elected I will kill LSB, vote for me. <3 you too. I find it incredibly interesting that your suddenly coming up and attacking me after a large organized attack. There has been an overwhelming negative voice to my plan. Although I understand that people don't immediately trust me. I find it awfully convenient that your running for mayor under a platform of "lets lynch the first person who offered an idea of what to do with mayorship!" I'm fine with changing my plan. However, the thing is, if we're given the power to change how the first day vote goes, shouldn't we attempt to do something? If we're just going to stick with voting to see who to lynch, I don't see any reason why Meapak_Ziphh shouldn't be mayor. But we should use every resource that is available to us. | ||
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Election will end at 7 PM EST on Sunday, December 12. The kill submission must come before 9 PM EST the same day. So we'd better start looking to who to vote for. On December 12 2010 00:29 CubEdIn wrote: I'm just kidding, but yeah, that sounds like a swell idea. I would like Meapak as well but it seems that people started voting for him out of the blue pretty much, so I'm keeping my options open... still. We'll he is hosting open elections, so voteing for Meapak is a vote for the status quo. | ||
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However, if we want a good lynch candidate we should give ourselves lots of time to discuss it. Personally, I'm all for voting for a lurker. | ||
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On December 12 2010 04:39 why wrote: Hey LSB, why did your initial mayoral candidacy not include the method by which you would kill the first person? For everyone else that was the first thing they included, but you made a whole separate post about it about 10 minutes later, and only after you had been told that you had left it out. Give me time to type that out. That took most of the 10 minutes. While you all were asking, I was busy typing it out. You asked the question at 11:33 I posted my platform at 11:38 Do you really think I could maintain a WPM of 36.2 to quickly answer your question? + Show Spoiler + On December 12 2010 07:29 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Meapak don't sell yourself short! It's a very probably theory! Here let me do an analysis for you. Starts being difficult and harassing popular opinion, most likely to ingrain negative thoughts in the minds of townies. Comes out of no where applying for MoM and offering one of the other candidates who had the most popularity so far as his lynch no matter what. Probably contributing to his desire to look bad upon the town. Uses odd reasoning here, why would one have to prove their innocence? What the fuck is this England? Changes mind on the fly with what his plans were as MoM now asking for the input of other townies? Or just being difficult and distracting the town more. Conclsuion: With very little posts hes probably a traitor or a VI, posting in a very confusing manner with a seemingly differing agenda then the town. Should keep an eye on him if nothing else! This seems uncharacteristic of RoL to be this distracting and unhelpful to town discussion. Although I don't want to make any assumptions about a VI role, but it would really suck if annul put a VI in, and annul's cool. Right? Annul can you deny the existence of a Village Idiot role? | ||
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On December 12 2010 09:30 Airbag wrote: I think there is probably an easy solution maybe RoL is a VI so if someone is elected he shouldnt be lynched. i think instead a detective role should check him. if he is a scum then build a case and if he is a village idiot make sure he is not getting lynched i think we should vote for meapak, beneather, or someone who will go with the flow of town. i dont want a mafia to manipulate this vote so that is the best thing to do. lsb's secret vote thing is just not good and he sent me some pms that make me feel a little uncomfortable to be quite honest What's uncomfortable about the PMs? You never responded! I've attached it for your convenience. + Show Spoiler + I'd rather not draw that much attention to myself... ----------------------------------------- Original Message From LSB: If you want, you can be the auditor. The thing is, since I'm doing it, the mafia won't be able to slip in and and manipulate the vote. Changing the voting record is also a problem with normal voting. All the mafia has to do is decide slightly earlier. If you really don't like the private vote idea. (I take it the general sentiment is that they don't want it) We can do reasoned voting, or runoff voting ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Airbag: but if you are mafia it increases the ways in which you can manipulate the vote and it gives the mafia a long time to discuss how they'd like their voting record to look without ever having to appear wishy washy for changing it ----------------------------------------- Original Message From LSB: The issue is that people like to go with the bandwagon. It seems safer, and there is a false sense of security in voting with the majority. Private votes allow each person to make their decision independently. It cuts off ways for the mafia to influence people. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Airbag: I understand wanting to vote for a player with experience but you can just manipulate the votes if ur mafia Why not just have people post their votes publicly, then it's completely impossible for you to lie about it. | ||
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If you seriously think that's fishing... x.x Your main critisim was that I might be able to manipulate the votes. So I offer the position of auditor to you. It is incredibly strange why you immediately decline. Are you just attacking for the sake of attacking? Or do you actually have a concern about how the secrete elections would be held? | ||
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On December 12 2010 12:37 ~OpZ~ wrote: I was thinking that, but as you said in your next post. The vibes man....I'm feeling them.... Although to Airbag, just because you think he was fishing for your role, does that really make him suspicious? How many people do you think are role fishing in PMs right now? Oh, and RoL, you still lynching LSB if you win election? So OpZ why do you think I'm scum? These vibes of yours, do they go specifically doing anything? (Btw, I'm saying that Airbag was focusing more on just flat out rejecting all ideas, rather than working to create a workable idea). This? On December 12 2010 01:16 ~OpZ~ wrote: Fuck it, lets kill him. I don't think simple tells are enough to place LSB as mafia RoL....But he did expect us to let him get votes via pm? That's kind of laughable, unless he released the votes he received before the killing. I'm still reading over thread though. Shouldn't an Auditor Position take care of this? It looks like you just came in an just jumped on the bandwagon. | ||
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On December 12 2010 12:30 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: RoL you are spamming now. Everyone ignore RoL, he's most likely someone who needs a particular event to happen i.e. he gets lynched or LSB gets lynched. We should really just focus on our choice for mayor and our first lynch. If elected I will lynch one of the mayor candidates except for RoL. I feel like RoL is a really dangerous lynch at this point because of possible third party motives. I've also been thinking about night actions. Our DT's (assuming we have them) should check RoL first and formost followed by LSB (if he doesn't get lynched day 1) and the mayor. Our medics (again assuming we have them) should protect themselves unless they have a really strong feeling that someone is blue (which at this point I don't so I don't have any advice for the medics). Any vigis (as always assuming we have them) should only use a hit if they can hit more than once, if you are a one shot only type of vigi I'd save your kill until we get in a situation where we have a confirmed red that we don't have enough lynches or time to kill. I agree that the dts should check RoL, and me too. Remember though, the DTs should also check the inactives. By inactives I mean the people who come into a thread, post once, vote once, and leave. There is no way to read these people, and tell the difference between inactives and lurking mafia. Medics: The medics should protect vets and smurfs. This is where the mafia will hit night one, as they will try to take out the major players as soon as possible. Vigs: Shoot the mayor if he lies. No questions. | ||
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Everyone Chant after me! Mea-pak! Mea-pak! Mea-pak! Mea-pak! + Show Spoiler + In all seriousness, Meapak will host Open elections and we should start scumhunting soon | ||
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If I put my support behind a mayor, we can work on checking out . Likewise, as LunarDestiny said, an open decision is best. Although RoL's intentions are pretty green. If we lynch me and then lynch RoL for hitting a green, that's two lynches we just wasted. In addition, an open lynch allows for discussion from everyone, putting everyone in the spotlight, not just RoL. | ||
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And Open Decision is when the town decides who to lynch. My plan was an example of Open Decision, but with a hidden vote. Kindof like how it is done in RAM. Between RoL, Deconduo, and Meapak, I trust Meapak to propose an open decision. RoL has this weird "i'm going to lynch LSB without any thought" which I've addressed Deconduo has been inactive, and who knows what he's going to do, and I don't want a sudden "Surprise! I'm mafia!" Do you truly want to spend more time on the Mayoral elections? | ||
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1) I've always been open about how I will be accountable for not manipulating the vote On December 11 2010 11:38 LSB wrote: What will I do as mayor I will hold a secrete ballot for the first elections. And I will post who voted for who afterwards. You know, mafia loves to redirect the first election? This will make it harder for them to. This is important for many reasons. Say we're going to lynch inactives. One is mafia, one is town Mafia: "Yo! Lets bandwagon this guy!" Town: "We'll their both inactive so I guess I'll vote for the town" Annul: "You guys lynched a townie. Sheep =P" Now. Imagine my system LSB: "Person A and Person B are inactive, please send me pm for who you vote for" Town sends PMs. Each person has about a 50% chance of dieng. Mafia doesn't have that much influence. Annul: "This person is mafia! Woot Woot!" In addition, I will not be able to influence the vote because I will post who voted for who afterwards. So if you see something messed up, you can call me out of it. (Of course, this also means that we got a great way to catch mafia). On December 11 2010 12:10 LSB wrote: Firstly, vote manipulation is always done by the mafia. In public it can be done easily. All the mafia has to do is make sure they either vote for other people or push a townie bandwagon. In private, they won't be able to predict who is going to be lynched. Secondly, if I'm mafia, you can examine the votes a wee bit more carefully. This way you'll have a better indication of who is mafia. See? Even if I'm mafia it's better for you! Thirdly, I'll accept someone to be the 'auditor' who also recieves votes On December 11 2010 12:47 LSB wrote: How about 2nd place in the mayor elections become with auditor? Here's how I imagine it would work. I would compare the votes that I get with the Auditor. If there is any discrepancies we can release it to the public/point out why. It further ensures the integrity of the private voting elections. Why private vote? Public vote is easily manipulated by the mafia. You will still be getting the same information, just our Day 1 vote will have a higher chance of hitting a mafia. + Show Spoiler + If the town really really wants it, I can host alternative forms of votes. Normal Voting Reasoned Voting- You must give a good reason for your vote for it to be counted. Runoff Elections- This way we get more information about people's voting patterns 2) I've Encouraged discussion on who to lynch. I've always proposed that I will follow town opinion. | ||
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On December 13 2010 04:31 Barundar wrote: There is too many inactives in this game. Experienced players have barely posted, and others haven’t posted at all. At this rate, I fear we won’t have enough posts to analyze after a lynch, in case we don’t hit a mafia. We need to put pressure on the invisible players. Chaoser has not posted a single post, but is active in pokemafia Pandain he is usually so spammy? Radfield no game related posts Kenpachi awol since announcing he was running for major Youngmini is he even in the game? + Ghote got called out by Thegilaboy without responding. Most obvious scum: Chaoser and Pandain Where are you? This is the modkill list ghrur youngminii chaoser why (I hope why comes back and vote, maybe annul will be lenient since why was pretty active) Mr. Zergling Since Chaoser and Youngmini are going to be modkilled, we don't have to worry about them. Kenpachi probably is trying to not seem skummy since he got lynched day 1 in Pokemon. Since he acts scummy when he is town, we can't read him Radfield- Now this is very interesting... Well... just see if he dies night one. Golden Rule of Radfield! If Radfield dies night one, he is town. If not he is mafia. That leaves Pandain. And Pandain seems to have disappeared from the state of the earth. I don't know if we should lynch him for it... but it is pretty strange given that he has the "spammiest player award" | ||
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Does anyone see a character that might be aligned with Death Eaters but checks as town? Because both RoL and LSB seem to be begging for DT checks. I know someone said imperious curse and that makes me suspicious of both. Snape seems like one of those characters. Anyways, we should try to pick out the Death eaters in the list. Lord Voldemort Cho Chang Bellatrix Lestrange Gilderoy Lockhart Cedric Diggory Walden Macnair Severus Snape Albus Dumbledore Poppy Pomfrey Fenrir Greyback Sibyl Trelawney Firenze Luna Lovegood Ollivander Draco Malfoy Nymphadora Tonks Ernie Prang Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington Mulciber Parvati Patil Padma Patil Moaning Myrtle Lucius Malfoy Narcissa Malfoy Violet Harry Potter Colin Creevey Nicolas Flamel Hermione Granger Angelina Johnson Roger Davies That's only 5/8. Forgive my horrible Harry Potter Knowledge. Does anyone read the books much? | ||
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Lord Voldemort Cho Chang Bellatrix Lestrange Gilderoy Lockhart Cedric Diggory Walden Macnair Severus Snape Albus Dumbledore Poppy Pomfrey Fenrir Greyback Sibyl Trelawney Firenze Luna Lovegood Ollivander Draco Malfoy Nymphadora Tonks Ernie Prang Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington Mulciber Parvati Patil Padma Patil Moaning Myrtle Lucius Malfoy Narcissa Malfoy Violet Harry Potter Colin Creevey Nicolas Flamel Hermione Granger Angelina Johnson Roger Davies For the list of Death Eaters I think it's pretty obvious that Parvati Patil and Padma Patil are either Siblings or Masons. | ||
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On December 11 2010 13:07 aidnai wrote: So, our helpful hint is that there are 10 people out of 31 with alternate win conditions. This is almost 1/3 players with ulterior motives. I'm glad the mayor doesn't have much power. It's great to have mayoral elections so there's something to talk about day one (other than lynching the inactives lol), but I don't trust anyone putting themselves out there for mayor. As for LSB's plan-- If LSB is mafia, the plan can be abused by mafia by manipulating votes as normal (same as a public vote, except worse because people won't have to post their reasoning). If the auditor is also red, scum can manipulate the reported result as well. If LSB is town, but the auditor is red, death eaters can still manipulate the votes as normal. Only if both LSB and auditor are pro town do we get any benefit from this plan. Actually, the auditor makes the odds worse... So, interesting idea, LSB, but it relies too much on us having to trust you. Although this seems like a large post. Take a look at it closely. It doesn’t state anything. First Aidani is trying to seem like he is contributing to the town by discussing the setup. Two paragraphs that are junk and basically irrelevant to the game. Next he proceeds to criticize the plan. Although it seems like real though. Take note. All these points were already brought up before or are already addressed Aidani in this post is doing nothing but making a façade of analysis On December 12 2010 05:56 aidnai wrote: Meapak's summary of MoM candidates is not very accurate. It's more like -LSB advocates private votes for lynch. There may be advantages or disadvantages, which town can discuss -A few others advocate public (normal) votes for lynch. This completely trivializes the MoM position. -A few others are trying to pressure or disrupt by making their platform a specific lynch. I like what LSB is doing. I don't see how his option is necessarily worse than the other options, and it has the added benefit of generating day 1 discussion. On the other hand, if we vote for 'someone who will listen to the town', we might as well forget there even is a MoM. Just RNG a mayor, vote as normal for a lynch, lynch the mayor day 2 if he fails to comply. RoL's tactic would look better to me if he would provide some justification. RoL, you need to be able to convince town that there is something to your hunches. Firstly, he completely reversed his position on my plan. Very wishy washy. But he’s doing this without actually taking a position. All he says is “there are some good some bad”. Looks like he’s avoiding the issue. Note one thing, non of the top candidates for the mayor are mafia. I’m getting a green read on Meapak, and I still believe that RoL is Mayor. There doesn’t seem to be a way for the mafia to take the mayorship. Aidnai then says “How about we RNG a mayor?” Yeah… Aidnai is trying to get us to trust him with who should be mayor. And just watch, he’ll ‘randomly’ choose someone who happens to be scum. On December 12 2010 17:52 aidnai wrote: Meapak, you have my vote. We've spent a lot of time discussing the candidacy of LSB and RoL. What about deconduo? Here's his posts so far: Announces candidacy, plugs candidacy, then gets side tracked for three posts--not much of a campaign imo. Yet he was able to garner votes from Jackal58, ilovejonn, and CubEdIn. Why did you three vote for such a non-chalant candidate? Especially Jackal58 and ilovejonn, who are both lurking pretty hard-core. Doesn't actually do much. It's like he's trying to get other people to do analysis on Deconduo without putting an opinion himself + Show Spoiler [Irrelevant Smurf Stuff] + On December 11 2010 14:42 aidnai wrote: Alright, we have a few smurfs. The true identities have not been revealed so the smurf is doing its job. The mod and players are aware that there are smurfs, so we know not to talk about the game with people outside the thread. Can we all be happy with this? I don't think Annul should learn the identity of the smurfs, since that would give him a leg up in future games.... On December 12 2010 02:53 aidnai wrote: 'What is a smurf?' Let me try to define it for you. - Joined TL.net november 14 - Requested access to the mafia forum november 14 - Posted nowhere else except this game Rather than argue details about past games, here's a policy we could discuss right now: LAL. On December 12 2010 03:13 aidnai wrote: Ok, i'm sorry for bringing up smurfs again. Smurf or not *actually* wasn't the main point of post--it's just strange to me that an honest-to-god newbie has no other question about the game than 'what is a smurf'. He looked suspicious, so I wanted to see how/if he reacted. This is just Aidnai trying to seem like he is active and contributing to the game, talking about a subject that doesn't matter at all + Show Spoiler [Minor, Unimportant posts] + On December 11 2010 14:50 aidnai wrote: rofl, you're screwed lsb! unless unfortunate complications arise causing RoL to excuse himself from the game. Actually, I really would love to hear your reasoning on this, rebirth-of-sherlock-fucking-holmes... Question/spamish post. Not much can be gleaned On December 12 2010 03:00 aidnai wrote: From D1 post: On day one, you must vote for a Minister for Magic. Note above the thirty-one eligible candidates. There are thirty-one players. Coincidence? Nope! The Minister will have no further powers beyond day one (no bodyguards, et cetera) and his only game power will be to decide the day one kill. Election will end at 7 PM EST on Sunday, December 12. The kill submission must come before 9 PM EST the same day. Vote for Minister in the voting thread. 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On December 13 2010 09:07 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: I love the way you try to play the whole neutral card by trying to come off like you don't suspect me or meapak. Is your goal still to make everyone like you by playing nice nice while simultaneously misdirecting the town to bad lynches? Lets not be townie on townie. All this is going to bring is wasted lynches. I played with Aidnai last game, he gave off really obvious scumtells. This game he is letting off none of those tells and you are making a mountain out of a molehill. There is not really much to talk about day 1 so saying he said nothing pretty much summarizes all town actions apart from probably three players who generated the original content that was then regurgitated. Yeah. And in Experimental Mafia Aidnai was mafia. That confirms that as scum he gives off these scumtells. | ||
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On December 13 2010 09:13 orgolove wrote: PMs are supposed to be private. If you're going to post it 1. You better have a good reason, and 2. You better post the whole conversation without any omissions or changes. That's the only way town can maintain its trust in PMs for it to be not posted and not manipulated to fake a red roleclaim. How can anyone who claims to be pro-town to do such a thing? This isn't a photoshop or a writing competition. If you start making up PMs, we go into a no-man's land where the reds can just laugh in the background as towns kill themselves. How can you be any redder? The last game someone posted their full PM conversations and subtly altered them was in Haunted Mafia, by Bill Murray. We all know how that ended up. These Messages obviously don't need an extra level of secrecy. Blanket polices don't work. I assumed Airbag's lack of response was confirmation that he was blue and didn't want to be noticed. Although I did feel that his lack of response meant that he probably was red, I omitted it to see what he would do about it. The fact that he did post that and drew attention to himself is quiet suspicious. | ||
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On December 13 2010 09:21 ilovejonn wrote: Btw, I read the rules over again and it says that you CANNOT vote for yourself. So what happens to the people (such as Pandain) that voted for themselves at the end and did not change their vote? I believe that an exception is made for mayoral elections On December 13 2010 09:17 deconduo wrote: You say I got a lot of votes out of nowhere. I got 2 votes out of nowhere, you got 7+. By your logic, you should lynch yourself. Deconduo can confirm this theory, but I believe that he pmed people. I know he PMed me | ||
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Your main argument is lack of contribution. As RoL pointed out, there are only perhaps three players who had contributed anything substantive at that point. And I believe I have contributed now, with my analysis of beneather. *Illusion of contribution. Illusion of contribution is a good way to find scum. Scum try to pretend to be active without actually saying anything I'm looking at Ver's Analysis of Protactium 2) You failed to show that any of my posts could not have a townie motivation for posting them. Wut?3) You even put words into my mouth. I never said RNG a mayor, and I don't recall anyone else saying that either. Right hereOn the other hand, if we vote for 'someone who will listen to the town', we might as well forget there even is a MoM. Just RNG a mayor, vote as normal for a lynch, lynch the mayor day 2 if he fails to comply. The thing is, at this time, everyone was talking about how we should vote for 'someone who will listen to the town'. You were assuming that people would take up your idea.4) Smurfs Annul told us to drop it, so I'm dropping it. Talking about smurfs is a great way to get postcounts for my Reaver thou | ||
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On December 13 2010 10:22 Jackal58 wrote: The entire premise of a "secret vote". But I said that already. I didn't pay much attention to who changed their vote before I did. I changed it due to deconduo's lack of posting after he announced his candidacy. On December 13 2010 03:48 LSB wrote: 1) I've always been open about how I will be accountable for not manipulating the vote | ||
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On December 13 2010 10:35 zeks wrote: I think at this point he really has not much of a choice other than a roleclaim - or at least a character name claim. You can't character name claim. I PMed Annul, he said that you can hint, but it has to apply to more than one character. Also I would run by any character name claims through him before actually doing it. | ||
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Lord Voldemort Cho Chang Bellatrix Lestrange Gilderoy Lockhart Cedric Diggory Walden Macnair Severus Snape Albus Dumbledore Poppy Pomfrey Fenrir Greyback Sibyl Trelawney Firenze Luna Lovegood Ollivander Draco Malfoy Nymphadora Tonks Ernie Prang Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington Mulciber Parvati Patil Padma Patil Moaning Myrtle Lucius Malfoy Narcissa Malfoy Violet Harry Potter Colin Creevey Nicolas Flamel Hermione Granger Angelina Johnson Roger Davies That leaves someone out. Possible death eaters Snape- I believe Snape is the miller, but there is a possibility he's mafia Gilderoy Lockhart- Erasing people's memories isn't very townish One of the Patils- This is very very weak, but it could be the generic lovers role. One town, one mafia. Doesn't make much sense storywize. | ||
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I've already character claimed somewhere in this thread. It's very subtle, but important. Btw, don't publically state it. Just PM me. (And No, I am not one of the Patils). | ||
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I don't know what is okay to reveal about that. | ||
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On December 14 2010 13:33 LunarDestiny wrote: Take those out if it doesn't benefit town if it was revealed Last time I took out something I thought wouldn't benefit the town, everyone started harping on me x.x | ||
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December 11th + Show Spoiler + (9:03:49 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD EL ESS BEE (9:03:57 PM) LSB Wut wut? (9:04:02 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD sup broski (9:04:07 PM) LSB Yo (9:04:15 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD so who are you suspicious of so far? (9:04:26 PM) LSB That smurf (9:04:28 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD if it were simply up to you who would you lynch (9:04:28 PM) LSB Airbag (9:04:34 PM) LSB You =P (9:04:35 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD why is that? (9:04:40 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD don't hate (9:04:52 PM) LSB 1 He's a smurf. well that's not that good of an idea (9:04:58 PM) LSB but he's been pushing my lynch wayyy to hard (9:05:22 PM) LSB And there is a difference between discussing a plan and trying to improve it (9:05:32 PM) LSB and also just flat out saying "I hate you plan. Junk it" (9:06:27 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD I am reading him now (9:06:31 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD all his posts (9:06:39 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD he doesn't seem too bad so far (9:07:05 PM) LSB Mainly I'm looking for people who are pretending to try to help the town (9:07:10 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD and why do you want to kill an inactive? (9:08:06 PM) LSB It was of course an example if it comes down to that. But you know the general reasons for lynching an inactives anyways. Personally I feel that there has to be a mafia in one of the many people running for mayor. (9:08:55 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=172406¤tpage=8#155 (9:09:01 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD he makes a good point with this (9:09:17 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD who is running? (9:09:22 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD me you and meapak right? (9:09:41 PM) LSB Yeah, I know about that. but remember the auditor thing? He rejected that straight out (9:09:46 PM) LSB even when I offered to him to be auditor (9:10:13 PM) LSB Where's that post of everyone running... (9:10:45 PM) LSB http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=172406¤tpage=13#255 (9:11:02 PM) LSB I'm getting a green read from deconduo (9:11:12 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD airbag is green (9:11:15 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD I am almost sure of it (9:11:25 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=172406¤tpage=11#213 (9:11:38 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD from my perspective lets pretend I am 100% green (9:11:44 PM) LSB kk (9:11:49 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD hes attacking your plan (9:11:56 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD and I propose to kill you and he questions me too (9:12:06 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD if hes a mafia whose undermining authority (9:12:11 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD then hes not doing a good job of it with that (9:12:20 PM) LSB The fact that you don't give a reason isn't because your directly confronting me (9:12:23 PM) LSB I mean (9:12:30 PM) LSB He's not questiong you to try to support you (9:12:43 PM) LSB he's questioning you because it's glaringly obvious that something is wrong (9:12:53 PM) LSB hey even coagulation knew to ask you about that (9:13:01 PM) LSB And I'm looking back to my day 1 in TMMM (9:13:09 PM) LSB As mafia I just tried undermining plans (9:13:25 PM) LSB And I see that parrelell with Airbag (9:13:27 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD but a plan that involves killing a townie (9:13:33 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD assuming we are both town (9:13:34 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD and hes mafia (9:13:46 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD he can question you because you don't have a lynch candidates (9:13:49 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD and he can pressure you (9:13:54 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD then I come there and I say I will kill you (9:14:03 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD then he says wait why? (9:14:08 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD and talks about it a little bit (9:14:11 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD and questions me (9:14:18 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD and keeps trying to figure out what I am doing (9:14:28 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD while a mafia could just sit back and try to run with a bad lynch (9:14:33 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD even if I am acting retarded (9:15:08 PM) LSB You don't need a lynch candidate to try to desroy a plan. If someone proposes a bad plan, you don't have to immdiate claim that they are scum (9:15:43 PM) LSB whatever (9:16:06 PM) LSB Anyways, we should go move to who to lynch (9:16:15 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD I am rereading (9:16:15 PM) LSB want to just concede mayoral victory to mepak? (9:16:32 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD I should reread meapak and see what I think about him (9:16:37 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD I did you so far (9:16:44 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD and whatever his name is (9:16:54 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD airbag (9:16:56 PM) LSB Yeah (9:17:55 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD fuck this election shit (9:18:06 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD lets push meapak and manipulate him into lynching whoever we tell himt o (9:18:25 PM) LSB I wonder how that will work (9:18:42 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD well together we come up with a candidate (9:18:49 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD someone we approve of (9:18:52 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD and he is our fall guy (9:18:54 PM) LSB Where's pandain btw? This is strange of him to be so inactive x.x (9:19:12 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD since hes taking the action (9:19:18 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD dunno maybe he has finals to study for or something (9:19:20 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD I think hes asian (9:19:26 PM) LSB Na, he's white (9:23:19 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD What do you think of aidnai? (9:24:56 PM) LSB I see what you mean (9:25:05 PM) LSB He has two posts that aren't spam/smurf (9:25:28 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD his first post seems fishy as shit to me (9:25:29 PM) LSB http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=172406¤tpage=9#173 This one seems a bit more of pretending to be active (9:25:32 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD analyzing the game set up (9:25:49 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD yeah that post (9:25:52 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD it seems shammy (9:25:54 PM) LSB Pretending to be active, but then again, did you try to lynch adani in experimental but was wrong? (9:26:05 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD no I tried lynching aidnai in experimental and was right (9:26:10 PM) LSB Ooh (9:26:18 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD I had to quit the game because drh accidentally told me in PMs that I was right (9:26:24 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD he was crying about his salem performance (9:26:26 PM) LSB Wow (9:26:28 PM) LSB I see (9:26:29 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD and said he wishes he could scumhunt like me (9:26:40 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD and since I had only played 1 game with drh before (9:26:49 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD and I was mafia, he must of been talking about experimental (9:26:57 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD so I called him out on it then left the em (9:27:01 PM) LSB Ahhh (9:27:04 PM) LSB no wonder (9:27:15 PM) LSB Wow I feel bad for letting him go free x.x (9:27:31 PM) LSB This is what I get for playing with Bill Murray too much x.x (9:28:45 PM) LSB Hmmm (9:29:23 PM) LSB http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=172406¤tpage=14#269 This post is kindof supporting me. I don't see why mafia would want to do that. (9:29:33 PM) LSB The rest of the post is just pretending to be contributing (9:29:58 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD yeah I am trying to think about that post (9:30:06 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD its the only one that is spammy and tries to contribute (9:30:16 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD hes asking me for justification which is fair (9:30:33 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD hes not really saying anything with it (9:30:39 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD just kind of asking for everyone to give a little more (9:30:43 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD and kind of soft supports you (9:30:50 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD I think hes a decent lynch candidate (9:30:52 PM) LSB Intresting... (9:31:04 PM) LSB what if we view it like he's trying to reshift the focus of the mayoral elections? (9:31:14 PM) LSB He's saying that we should make you the mayor (9:31:15 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD what do you mean? (9:31:23 PM) LSB It's all about who should be the mayor (9:31:26 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD assuming I can support my opinion (9:31:44 PM) LSB "Just RNG a mayor, vote as normal for a lynch" (9:31:59 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD hes saying it makes ita normal election but hes wrong (9:32:09 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD the mere fact its 1 person actually pulling the trigger ont he lynch changes it (9:32:15 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD regardless of if we all vote on it (9:32:22 PM) LSB Although he soft supports me, I don't think it's very into it. Because we already know that people will want to vote for someone "'someone who will listen to the town'" (9:32:32 PM) LSB Yes (9:32:40 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD "here may be advantages or disadvantages," (9:32:42 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD this is what gets me (9:32:48 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD hes just talking (9:32:52 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD there is no actual analysis of it (9:33:00 PM) LSB I'm pretty sure he knows that the town will reject my plan (9:33:08 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD I might as well say there are pros and cons to being a dt.... moving on to next topic" (9:33:19 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD I agree (9:33:30 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD it seems like he trying to side with a townie who will die soon (9:33:50 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD with a plan he deosn't think will come to fruition (9:33:56 PM) LSB Hmmm (9:33:58 PM) LSB Very good point (9:34:08 PM) LSB I should look at my supporters a bit more carefully then... (9:34:14 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD we should talk to him (9:34:17 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD in PM land (9:34:26 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD and pretend we have never spoken and still oppose each other (9:34:31 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD in case you didn't realize I think you are town (9:34:37 PM) LSB Kk (9:35:21 PM) LSB I'll just try to ask him more about his support of me or something (9:35:32 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD yeah just see who he suspects too (9:35:34 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD ask him about me (9:35:38 PM) LSB kk (9:35:39 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD and I will ask him about you (9:35:44 PM) LSB Ugh (9:35:48 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD ? (9:35:51 PM) LSB we're going to need some time between our PMs (9:35:55 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD its like being in 6th grade (9:35:56 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD agreed (9:35:59 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD you wanna go first? (9:36:01 PM) LSB kk (9:36:23 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD don't change our votes to meapak yet I want to keep pushing against each other and creating friction to see who comes out of the woodwork (9:36:35 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD oh and I think we can trust amber (9:37:23 PM) LSB Agreed (9:37:28 PM) LSB Ambers clear (9:38:33 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD I think meapak is a medic (9:38:46 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD loook at his most recent post (9:38:54 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD saying medics hsould protect themselves with certainty (9:39:03 PM) LSB Sent my PM (9:39:04 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD that is a really uncommon medic trait (9:39:09 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD becasue its an OP as shit veteran role (9:39:14 PM) LSB Woah (9:39:21 PM) LSB He is the only person in the thread talking about medics (9:40:18 PM) LSB Hmm (9:40:38 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD I might need a notepad for this game (9:40:43 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD arghh1!1 (9:41:05 PM) LSB Screw that, unless we get protection on you, your probably going to get killed fast (9:41:16 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD lol me? (9:41:20 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD don't worry about me! (9:41:31 PM) LSB XD Kk (9:41:54 PM) LSB Hmm... what if we use a pastebin? (9:41:59 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD hmm? (9:42:02 PM) LSB If someone googles it, they will think its the mod's stuff (9:42:03 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD is that one of those online forums? (9:42:06 PM) LSB And they'll be like yay~! (9:42:11 PM) LSB It's like an online notebook (9:42:20 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD I am going to start PMing meapak (9:42:29 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD lets use code names (9:42:32 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD and be all cool and shit (9:42:37 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD I dunno any of those sites though (9:42:41 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD so you would have to make it (9:43:06 PM) LSB Here, I'll just make a google doc (9:43:22 PM) LSB do you have a gmail? (9:44:34 PM) LSB Here's the link (9:44:44 PM) LSB https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Aiaef8daLo6IdF96UmdoT0dHRHFDSi1qUjdFNmFOUmc&hl=en&authkey=CMeEzpML (9:46:20 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD we should look into opz (9:46:33 PM) LSB OpZ is always scummy though (9:46:39 PM) LSB It's hard to analyze opz (9:48:11 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD he just blindly sided with me to kill you (9:48:14 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD based off of last game (9:48:21 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD hasn't really posted much (9:48:25 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD hes got like 6 posts I think (9:48:49 PM) LSB Not Suprising play from him ofc, then again I'm not against lynching him (9:49:09 PM) LSB Thegilaboy seems green to me. He obv doesn't want an influencial Mayor at all (9:49:49 PM) LSB Hmm (9:49:51 PM) LSB Check out GGQ (9:49:55 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD didn't read him yet (9:50:01 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD gila that is (9:50:08 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD we need more time for OpZ (9:50:15 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD he seems to just be chillin' at the moment (9:50:16 PM) LSB Kk I'll go back and read OpZ (9:50:26 PM) LSB I'll pressure him in thread then (9:50:41 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD alright (9:52:30 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD oh and opz is being active right now (9:52:32 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD he just posted (9:57:32 PM) LSB Hmmm (9:57:47 PM) LSB Should I post, Medics should Protect Meapak? (9:57:53 PM) LSB That might be a bit too fishing... (10:04:12 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD I PMed meapak and called him out on his soft claim (10:04:19 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD did aidnai respond to you at all? (10:04:23 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD or opz? (10:04:24 PM) LSB Want me to reply to your post or give it some time? (10:04:28 PM) LSB Nope haven't responded (10:04:30 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD give it time (10:04:37 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD I don't want us going head to head (10:04:59 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD my post is meant to inspire illusions of grandeur since some of what I said about you is exaggerated or made up (10:04:59 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD lolol (10:05:07 PM) LSB lol yeah (10:05:09 PM) LSB I was going to be like (10:05:11 PM) LSB This is BS (10:05:13 PM) LSB but then I was like (10:05:14 PM) LSB wait... 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(5:44:18 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD you should do it (5:44:24 PM) LSB kk (5:44:30 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD I want to attack the analysis and continue being beligerant as fuck (5:44:34 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD I think orgolove (5:45:07 PM) LSB Wait. so what's with the belligerence then? (5:45:13 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD ?/ (5:45:30 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD Pretend we are mafia, do we really want to look like we agree with each other? (5:45:38 PM) LSB Ahhh I see (5:45:40 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD from the other side of shit (5:45:42 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD if I were mafia (5:45:50 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD and I were to see 2 townies vying for power and butting heads (5:45:57 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD I wouldn't feel the need to interject until one dies (5:46:03 PM) LSB That's a very very good point (5:46:04 PM) RebirthOfLeGenD and then assert your opinion (5:46:09 PM) LSB yesss! You've insured our protection!! 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I did not do anything to encourage him to go that way. Once I flip green, kill Orgolove. He probably has some kind of role that causes him to kill the dt that visits him. | ||
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I'm just going to claim. Now that I'm useless + Show Spoiler [Character claim] + I'm pretty secluded and people misunderstand me and my intentions. Because I'm secluded I can do things in secrete. I spend my time mixing potions and fantasizing to redheads. + Show Spoiler [Role Claim] + I am the Traitor. When Name Checked I am ****. When check my role shows up as "no role". When Alignment checked I am death eater. I also count as part of the death eaters when determining the KP. I win with the town. I was planning on giving myself up to the town once we killed a death eater to reduce the overall KP. But now it's too late. Anyways. I do have one special role though. I can pick a member and determine with absolute certainty if he is mafia, and who he killed. This is because I accompany him to the kill and help him do his business. Last night Orgolove hit RoL + Show Spoiler [What happened] + Annul Pmed me. Said I was roleblocked. I'm basically useless now. Go kill Orgolove. Before you ask, I didn't get a list of the death eaters. | ||
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On December 14 2010 14:38 why wrote: Snape? I cannot confirm or deny | ||
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On December 14 2010 14:38 jcarlsoniv wrote: Very simple way to test that theory that I see. We lynch you. If you pop green, we lynch LSB. I'm all for that. | ||
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On December 14 2010 14:39 annul wrote: name claiming in any capacity is still illegal so yeah he cant I can't confirm or deny, but I do have combination of claims that Annul said I could claim that would make it painfully obvious who I am. But I won't. XD | ||
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On December 14 2010 02:40 annul wrote: fuck emma watson (not even literally) its all about natalia tena p.s. 10.5 hour 15-page essay final exams are fucking brutal, but at least they give you time to rest your mind every so often and check TL It's all about Lily Evans. So Hawt | ||
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On December 14 2010 14:42 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Hi town, The same thing just happened to me as happened to LSB. That explains why there were two hits on RoL. Sooo.... look like two mafia? Orgolove, and then Meapak_Ziphh? My life has been successful. | ||
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Meapak, can you give more hints? | ||
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1) I contribute to the death eater count. So basically I hold half a KP (like all other death eaters). So yes, I understand, lynching me reduces the same amount of KP as lynching orgolove. 2) Since Meapak is not harry, he must be lying about being blocked. There you go. Two mafia. This explains why RoL was hit 3) As long as I am alive, Harry is unkillable. Thats why you guys should try to keep me alive as long as possible. | ||
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My record as mafia: 0-3! See I told you guys! I win games for you! | ||
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On December 23 2010 06:48 jcarlsoniv wrote: You had way more powers than you made it seem. Role kill. Target detection. 2 members who kill someone when they die. Imperio curse. Those are some pretty bad ass powers. They also had a traitor, which cut the amount of members they had to 5. Also, there was a redic amount of masons. See PYP2 for how a lot of masons = guaranteed victory. Mafia IRC chat was basically. "LSB Are you a traitor? Are you lying? We're going to kill you tonight" My pms with Annul included! + Show Spoiler + ----------------------------------------- Original Message From annul: if you find there is some strategical element to killing yourselves off, then go for it. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From LSB: Can the mafia us KP on their own members? ----------------------------------------- Original Message From annul: i cannot confirm or deny the premises upon which you base that logical conclusion. however, unrelated to what you are trying to extract from me, i am a good mod =) ----------------------------------------- Original Message From LSB: Good mods don't change people's alignment Bad mods do Are you a good mod or a bad mod? ----------------------------------------- Original Message From annul: i cannot confirm or deny such things. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From LSB: Can you confirm or deny if my role/alignment will change? ----------------------------------------- Original Message From annul: you are Severus Snape the red team is: | ||
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On December 23 2010 06:52 kitaman27 wrote: I would suggest for future games of this style for the mod to provide a list of characters that may or may not be in the game. For example, add Ron, Mcgonagall, Nevillle ect. to the list that the mafia can choose to claim as. That way we are all allowed to name claim, however it allows the mafia to still fake claim. It was pretty unfortunate for scum that DrH decided to claim pomfrey to pomfrey. I knew I couldn't name claim so at first I pm'd the town I trusted the most who was Meapak and told him I had a dt check that appeared red. Meapak was hesistant to call out DrH so I had to call him out myself. I would have thought it was fairly obvious that I was pomfrey since I was "100%" sure, yet the town didn't buy it. Jcarl was the dt to check me, but he wasn't allowed to role claim either so instead he just strongly supported me. Nice job by scum to squeeze out the extra day. Actually, I really don't like what happened that day. The scum should have sacrificed a member to make sure that DocH lives. Since he was voldy, he controlled a KP, and also Deconduo would have died if he stayed alive. And then the mafia would have more than enough KP to try to hit people that aren't in the town circles, as they wouldn't be protected and then win the game. | ||
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On December 23 2010 06:56 annul wrote: that is a good idea, i should have done that It would be better if mafia just had alternate identities, so they know who they could fake claim as. | ||
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On December 23 2010 07:02 Barundar wrote: I loved the mindgames - led by DrH. LSB did so much work for us as well, even if that first post was kinda iffy :D As a first time mafia experience, this was awesome fun, cheers guys. e: zomg edit! My first post was a combination of epic propaganda, and trying to find a way for an immediate bandwagon. Jcarlsoniv, didn't my actions seem familiar? I was wondering when you were going to put 2and2 together. | ||
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On December 23 2010 07:05 annul wrote: also i mean i wrote up abilities that are ridiculously unorthodox, yeah? i did this to give mafia the room to fake claim similarly ridiculous abilities (some of which may not be proveable!) But the problem was that the town wouldn't by an ability claim without a hint at the character. After all, who wouldn't want to character claim? | ||
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On December 23 2010 07:09 aidnai wrote: On the scum side, I thought bussing LSB to 'confirm' orgolove and airbag was pretty smart. I don't think anyone picked up on this analysis-wise at any point. Snape was definitely a liability, and they got two semi-confirmed 'townies' out of the deal. Although to be honest airbag tried to take way too much credit for the lynch when practically the whole town was screaming about LSB's scumminess and orgolove didn't follow up his 'confirmed' status by misdirecting town or doing anything really... GG everyone, hope to play with you again soon. Just FYI, I don't think a single townie (Besides ROL, but ROL was working with me) actually accused me of scummyness. It was all mafia day 1. Basically everyone who attacked me was mafia. | ||
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On December 23 2010 07:43 aidnai wrote: No, you thought I looked fishy, not the other way around. I had no suspicion of you. I thought LSB and beneather were mafia day 1. I'm still not sure what I did wrong with beneather... I would have wagered my (in-game) life that he was scum. Blame my killing of you on RoL, he pointed out that you were an easy lynch switch. Suicide attacks are fun too! And I'm a reaver! | ||
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And yeah, beneather had some suspicion stuck on him, and I was defending him in thread in hopes that once I get lynched, people would think he's mafia. | ||
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