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Amber[LighT]
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On November 26 2010 08:05 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Game just started, don't worry <3 oh okay might need to do this again tomorrow for Black Friday. Just using all the lazy cards now to prevent others from stealing them later. | ||
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On November 26 2010 09:05 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Its good to work that out of your system now, because for killing me last game I am imposing strict measures on you. If you don't post every 4 hours, I will modkill you. Next time I'll pick L instead of you (note to self: don't use KP roles on potential mods) | ||
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On November 27 2010 06:49 Aeres wrote: I'm Joe Pesci, who beats the shit out of Thom Yorke and George Clooney at the same time! /flex I'm a bit confused as to what we should be doing at this point. The majority of players involved haven't even posted yet, and we don't have anything to discuss, really, aside from town circles, Medic priorities, etc... but shouldn't we wait for everyone to be present to talk about these things? I wouldn't say I'm impatient about this, but Day 1 seems to be a brick wall for discussion most of the time if there isn't a Mayor. = / So do you want us to do a roll call? | ||
Amber[LighT]
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I'm probably going to just abstain for my Day 1 vote. No pressure, no harm | ||
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On November 28 2010 18:40 aidnai wrote: Ok, changing the topic a little bit: This is the sum total of Artanis' contributions so far. Artanis, do you mind explaining your lurking ways and your somewhat random vote? Also, Radfield, you posted a list of lurkers to be pressured. Why no Artanis on this list? For the record, I am inclined to believe you are pro-town at this point, but I do want to know why you missed artanis. I want to know more about this too. Why you such a hater Artanis? | ||
Amber[LighT]
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Incoming PMs!!! | ||
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Hey, nights about to end, and we're about to get some new information, but before that happens, can I ask you what you think about Town's reasoning on who's mafia? I understand that I draw suspicion because I basically cemented Brownbear's lynch, and if we look at him as a townie, it's like, yeah durrr people who voted BB. But the thing is, I don't think that's actually a totally fair assumption to make. I mean, did you see Protact's way of "fishing?" I think it's the scum's way of getting in touch with the chaos ensuant. Then, guess what, Protact just happened to vote FOR Kenpachi to maybe help save Brownbear? Anyway, I think it makes sense that mafia DID get in contact with BB, and in that case, we shouldn't be focusing on who voted BB, but who voted Kenpachi. This includes: Barunder Protactinium Node KtheZ Youngminii I'd say Node and Youngminii are fairly quiet, which both makes me think they could be lurking mafia. However, I'd like to get your opinion on this because while it makes sense, the rest of the town seemed to have just glossed over it. =/ Thanks for not killing me though, Ghrur. ^____^ | ||
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On November 29 2010 11:14 Kenpachi wrote: You either got protected or he might be mindfucking you. Or he was planning on killing you the next night but i think this is quality info I'm actually saying that because in one PM correspondence I said: but don't worry, I won't get you lynched unless you're scum. ^_^ I'd rather not delve deeper into it as it doesn't affect the game. | ||
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On November 30 2010 05:57 Coagulation wrote: Guys i think we should look at lynching glasse as a possibility usually he is an over 9000 pro town contributer who leads town with lethal scum hunting precision and fierce determination. im just not seeing it this game. lol i cant believe that after he tossed his role in insane mafia. | ||
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On November 30 2010 18:50 youngminii wrote: Just so everyone knows in case DrH turns up as scum or something and tries to do something sneaky (which I doubt will happen anyway), I roleclaimed to him. Obviously I'm not going to say what my role is but chyeah there you go. I believe that being transparent about most things is better than keeping everything in secret PM networks and all that crap. Right now I get the feeling that Kenpachi is indeed scum, and given BB's death last night and all the suspicion around Kenpachi, some/most of the scum have gone and decided to bus him. I mean, hell, he has a LOT of votes on him without any counter target, which means the mafia have given up on him. I don't like the abstain votes so I guess we'll have to keep an eye on them in the future. Way to out yourself as a blue. I already told a couple of players this though as your playstyle is a dead giveaway of your alignment and role. Kenpachi you need to do a little bit more investigative work than this: On November 30 2010 14:10 Kenpachi wrote: huh i never said this particular bandwagon is dumb the one before was, node made a dumbfuck post to back up voting on me. Annul is a dumb bandwagoner, like seriously, not saying the bandwagon is dumb.. I see how you can misinterpret me into being red.. And Darth, i just dont like him ~_~ actually i despise him, but dw i wont let it affect town from winning the game This is useless information. Do some actual analysis on these three and then maybe you will be taken more seriously. I'm not changing my vote from abstain, but I will vote for you if I need to. And annul... I always thought you were a LOT better than this at mafia. I was under the assumption you had a mafia history and you were quite the good player, having never played with you afaik. Giving up because a blue suicides seems off. | ||
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On November 30 2010 23:43 Coagulation wrote: And what the FUCK is the deal with you already sat out first vote. town up. idk bro convince me otherwise. | ||
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On December 01 2010 00:28 jcarlsoniv wrote: I am not going to just settle for a nice easy bandwagon on Kenpachi. It seems like the mafia are just too content to let it happen. I have never once seen annul be so passive and give up like that, which makes me feel like he is just simple townie and has no special role and doesn't feel like not being special or something like that. But I honestly don't know who I would rather vote for right now. I don't like how Amber keeps abstaining, I do believe that the town should want to use their lynch as much as they can. Vote going to him for now. You are aware that I'm more-or-less confirmed as town aligned, right? I don't think voting for me is going to work. I don't think anyone in their right mind should vote for me more than considering abstaining. You want me (and everybody) to use my power to lynch as much as I can, but you're throwing away your vote by even hinting at voting for me. Do you see the huge gaping hole in your logic? Why would you vote to lynch me? Because I'm abstaining? You are aware that the mafia have probably already thrown their votes in. It wouldn't surprise me if 1-2 mafia members have yet to throw out a vote, but they know what they're doing. You don't want to settle on a nice easy bandwagon, but instead want to focus on me? You want to confirm the PM I received? It's going to do nothing to benefit the town, so maybe you should focus on someone who's actually got a paper trail to follow. By lynching Kenpachi we obtain significant information about the entire day. And you don't want to settle on that? Guess we should just vote based upon post count! Kill inactives first because that method works flawlessly. Yes gunning for people who don't reveal information is the best usage case for day lynches. Don't divert the town, you're looking scummy. | ||
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On December 01 2010 12:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Claimed to me: Annul Jcarls Southrawrea Kenpachi youngminii aidnai (pre-death) Pandain Chaoser Protactinium Glasse (claimed publicly) KtheZ (claimed publicly) Aeres I incorrectly included a few dead people in my count. 12 roleclaims. I might be missing someone. Be conscious of the fact that I came home to about 18 PMs. I'm on information overload and I fear shit is slipping through the cracks. I'm bound to make small number/logical slip-ups and I'm sure mafia will try to make me look bad for it. You try reading 15 pms at work on your phone and getting everything perfect. I will say this. The town circle is working on sorting out my information and splitting the workload so that nothing gets by without being looked at. It makes me nervous to know that people are just role claiming to you like this. It's not like you're confirmed anyway. It's more dangerous for you AND SR to know everything. Way to go on the DTA lynch guys. That lynching was totally deflected. | ||
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On December 01 2010 23:16 jcarlsoniv wrote: Amber, can you remind me why you are basically confirmed please? I don't think you answered me when I first asked. Have you not read this? + Show Spoiler + SUBJECT: New Developments and Day2 Lynch Hey, nights about to end, and we're about to get some new information, but before that happens, can I ask you what you think about Town's reasoning on who's mafia? I understand that I draw suspicion because I basically cemented Brownbear's lynch, and if we look at him as a townie, it's like, yeah durrr people who voted BB. But the thing is, I don't think that's actually a totally fair assumption to make. I mean, did you see Protact's way of "fishing?" I think it's the scum's way of getting in touch with the chaos ensuant. Then, guess what, Protact just happened to vote FOR Kenpachi to maybe help save Brownbear? Anyway, I think it makes sense that mafia DID get in contact with BB, and in that case, we shouldn't be focusing on who voted BB, but who voted Kenpachi. This includes: Barunder Protactinium Node KtheZ Youngminii I'd say Node and Youngminii are fairly quiet, which both makes me think they could be lurking mafia. However, I'd like to get your opinion on this because while it makes sense, the rest of the town seemed to have just glossed over it. =/ | ||
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On December 01 2010 23:38 Coagulation wrote: i still dont get it. explain plz. i have no idea how being the deciding vote can confirm you as town. from that post. What are you talking about? | ||
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On December 01 2010 23:53 Coagulation wrote: how does it confirm you as town?? thats what im talking about. spit it out. Mafia member asks me for 'help' analyzing players. Mafia member sends me a list of suspects before he dies. Mafia member dies. I visibly post the received PM as soon as I see it. Why would he have this conversation with me if we were on the same team? How on earth could I fake the conversation we had? | ||
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On December 02 2010 00:39 chaoser wrote: I feel like it's decently easy to fake conversations if the plan at the start of the game for mafia was to use the PM system to manufacture fake PMs. Throughout the game, even at the start, write PMs to each other with fake info and then post them when needed. I don't think that makes you confirmed 100% but at least it makes you less suspicious. You are free to be skeptical. I don't need everybody to believe that I'm a confirmed townie, but I'll be playing the game under the assumption that I have confirmation leverage. I never play with deceit in this game but it is up to the other townies to recognize that. | ||
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On December 02 2010 07:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I was in that game. So you faked PM's living people sent you and then PM'd them to others? That's a slightly different situation is it not? I would never have the balls to fake a bunch of PMs and post them publicly as scum. And I doubt I could do it as well as Amber did if he did. And I don't think the possibility of it occurring makes it likely and it hardly makes Amber suspicious. I would feel 100% more than comfortable faking it through PMs though. Posting a fake PM from a living person in a thread is a huge no no, all they have to do is call you out. Doing it through PMs is a lot safer. Doing it from a dead guy (which Ghrur) is has elements of safety but the potential risk is huge. It would be a brilliant play if Ghrur was bused, but his death was an accident. Do the mafia really have the foresight to fake PMs on day 1 between eachother just for a late game bus to clear one person or a "JUST IN CASE" they died? So what's the plan? Amber: hey ghrur I need to look pro-town so send me a fake pm asking me for game advice then send me a fake pm trying to plant accusations on other players (which are maybe secretly mafia WHO KNOWS) to me then when we'll accidentally kill a mad hatter and get you killed so I can post the PMs and town will know I'm town! Ghrur: ok! This actually sounds pretty convincing. I might have to vote for myself on Day 3. | ||
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On December 06 2010 12:57 youngminii wrote: tried pming RoL before doing it but i guess i'll just do it now GL HF town There are many of you that are horrible at this game, or maybe just horrible at playing town. Good luck, you'll need it. Who on earth are you to make a statement like this? You pretty much ruined the game and your role. Hope you had fun bc we all know you're never "helpful" with a green role. Hope mods never give you a blue role to waste ever again. | ||
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On December 04 2010 02:33 Radfield wrote: Events in my life are conspiring to keep me from playing mafia. Dr H, lynch me if you must, I don't deny my play has been poor. Sorry team Also, lynching JS is a no-brainer at this point. ... | ||
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On December 08 2010 10:38 Incognito wrote: On a further note: Theres only 3 games I remember where a town circle actually benefited the town. One was TL Mafia 4, where town circle destroyed the game Night 1 because mafia didn't read the rules. The second was Mafia V, where Town lynched red 7-8 times in a row (can't remember exactly, but it was almost a perfect game). However, in this game, town circle benefited from the fact that all the top tier players were town-sided. The third game was Mafia XX, where mafia played a passive game and information in the town circle was strictly kept between 3 players. The funny thing about that game, though, was that the mafia knew who the town circle was but couldn't do anything to stop them. That game also had too many strong blue roles. The moral of the story is: town circles only work well when information is kept strictly guarded AND the game has abnormal circumstances like described above. Otherwise, just don't try it. You gotta give credit for DrH pulling the strings getting 2 town circles set up. I wish he would post what actually happened the first couple of days. When he PMed me I was ready to help since I assumed he was pro-town and I really had nothing to lose. I was upset that I got targeted on Night 2 It's funny I had Radfield pegged from the start, and I told DrH not to give him too much information. I probably should have taken a step back and considered SouthRawrea, but we never had much contact so he wasn't someone I was thinking about. I am disappointed with some of the poor play, particularly of the blues in this game. There are 2 things you shouldn't do: -Never claim medic if you're the medic in the thread. How will you be protected? You're handing blue roles over -Don't ever think you're more useful staying in the shadows with a +2 life role. What's the point in that? Youngminii got lynched because mafia knew that was the best way to eliminate him. Either that or keep him to the end. The sad part is I handed YM to the mafia with my exchange with ghrur. I did the analysis for them and it should have been clear when he didn't die immediately to realize he was blue and use him as a voice for the town. It was poor of me to not connect those dots. Veterans and medics should NEVER role claim, or at least be careful of how they claim. You can claim without actually claiming, especially in a PM-based game. | ||
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