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youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
November 12 2010 04:44 GMT
#4341
You mean like how a certain PM circle was raped by modkills?

Riight
lalala
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 12 2010 04:48 GMT
#4342
On November 12 2010 13:44 kingjames01 wrote:
I was so angry about this game.
There were SO many mistakes made by the town. Unfortunately I was killed the first night... (WHAT THE HELL WAS UP WITH THAT???)

It was obvious that Pandain's bid to become mayor was mafia-concocted. Two other players supported him with very shoddy reasoning. That should have been enough to kill 3 mafia.

Another thing that really made my blood boil was the stupidity over the existence of the Godfather and whether or not Pandain could have been him. Godfather can choose to appear as WHATEVER he wants. The perfect role is to pretend that you know when someone is Red or Blue since you know that already. It is IDIOTIC to start with the assumption that there is no Godfather.

Also, in order to win the game as town, you have to think like mafia. If some mafia is going to get lynched, the perfect plan is to bus a teammate, ESPECIALLY, if that means the Godfather is safe.

I watched the entire game and I was not overly impressed with ANYONE's play. After the game, everyone is patting each other's backs and saying, "yeah, that was great how you pulled that off! You're a great player" or "that was some great analysis. You really got that right." NO! EVERYONE ELSE FUCKED UP.

I'm so mad. =(

LMAO, this is exactly what I felt.

Of course, then we had Kenpachi consistantly voting mafia, but no one listened to him :S
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
November 12 2010 04:49 GMT
#4343
On November 12 2010 13:44 kingjames01 wrote:
I was so angry about this game.
There were SO many mistakes made by the town. Unfortunately I was killed the first night... (WHAT THE HELL WAS UP WITH THAT???)

It was obvious that Pandain's bid to become mayor was mafia-concocted. Two other players supported him with very shoddy reasoning. That should have been enough to kill 3 mafia.

Another thing that really made my blood boil was the stupidity over the existence of the Godfather and whether or not Pandain could have been him. Godfather can choose to appear as WHATEVER he wants. The perfect role is to pretend that you know when someone is Red or Blue since you know that already. It is IDIOTIC to start with the assumption that there is no Godfather.

Also, in order to win the game as town, you have to think like mafia. If some mafia is going to get lynched, the perfect plan is to bus a teammate, ESPECIALLY, if that means the Godfather is safe.

I watched the entire game and I was not overly impressed with ANYONE's play. After the game, everyone is patting each other's backs and saying, "yeah, that was great how you pulled that off! You're a great player" or "that was some great analysis. You really got that right." NO! EVERYONE ELSE FUCKED UP.

I'm so mad. =(


You were too good, thats why we killed you
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
November 12 2010 04:50 GMT
#4344
I TOTALLY LISTENED TO KENPACHI AT THE END

By the way, what was with that "I gained confidence" thing that he said at the end?
lalala
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
November 12 2010 04:50 GMT
#4345
Also, it was CLEAR that Aeres tried to pretend to be a second bodyguard since he thought DCLXVI had accidentally outted himself. I understood as soon as it happened. The reason why I didn't bring it up was BECAUSE I understood as soon as it happened.

If you're FUCKING town, then put a little bit of thought into it, understand it and then go along with it, you shallow-minded fools. Don't make him explain himself. That negates the point of his move. He had a role which allowed him to take that risk. He took one for the team but you guys lynched him for it.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 12 2010 04:52 GMT
#4346
On November 12 2010 13:50 youngminii wrote:
I TOTALLY LISTENED TO KENPACHI AT THE END

By the way, what was with that "I gained confidence" thing that he said at the end?

He was all sad because Pandain fakeclaimed him so he basically gave up.

I was like "Nooo don't do it!!"

Btw yelling "Kenpachi Hwaiting!!" in chat with Artanis is so fun
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
November 12 2010 04:54 GMT
#4347
Okay you have to calm the fuck down.

Lynch All Liars is a pro-town policy that is designed to stop unneeded confusion. You do not make up roleclaims in situations like that. Maybe in the end game where it can help you avoid a lylo or where you can protect someone very important but in his situation, LAL is the best policy.
lalala
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
November 12 2010 04:56 GMT
#4348
On November 12 2010 13:49 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 13:44 kingjames01 wrote:
I was so angry about this game.
There were SO many mistakes made by the town. Unfortunately I was killed the first night... (WHAT THE HELL WAS UP WITH THAT???)


You were too good, thats why we killed you


hehe, thanks... I guess. (Damn you guys, I really wanted to play.)

By the way, if you remember, I was the Self-Conscious Lazy Vigilante who could send in a hit during the daytime. If I was wrong and got a Blue, I would instantly commit suicide.

I was so convinced that Pandain was a Red that if you guys hadn't killed me the first night, I would have killed him and proven that his "supporters" were mafia. =(

Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
November 12 2010 04:56 GMT
#4349
On November 12 2010 13:50 kingjames01 wrote:
Also, it was CLEAR that Aeres tried to pretend to be a second bodyguard since he thought DCLXVI had accidentally outted himself. I understood as soon as it happened. The reason why I didn't bring it up was BECAUSE I understood as soon as it happened.

If you're FUCKING town, then put a little bit of thought into it, understand it and then go along with it, you shallow-minded fools. Don't make him explain himself. That negates the point of his move. He had a role which allowed him to take that risk. He took one for the team but you guys lynched him for it.

Yah, I was amazed no one else saw this either. The moment Aeres claimed I was pretty certain it was a fakeout, but he still got lynched for it.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 12 2010 04:57 GMT
#4350
On November 12 2010 13:54 youngminii wrote:
Okay you have to calm the fuck down.

Lynch All Liars is a pro-town policy that is designed to stop unneeded confusion. You do not make up roleclaims in situations like that. Maybe in the end game where it can help you avoid a lylo or where you can protect someone very important but in his situation, LAL is the best policy.

Thats a metagame policy, and in reality, no one cares about the metagame. You only care about insane mafia. All the other games don't matter.

You should have let Ares live, he obviously didn't know about LaL, so it wasn't effective
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
November 12 2010 05:00 GMT
#4351
On November 12 2010 13:44 kingjames01 wrote:
I watched the entire game and I was not overly impressed with ANYONE's play. After the game, everyone is patting each other's backs and saying, "yeah, that was great how you pulled that off! You're a great player" or "that was some great analysis. You really got that right." NO! EVERYONE ELSE FUCKED UP.

I'm so mad. =(


Haha, I had the same feeling after reading youngminii's post-game posts.

For the record, I did asked medic's to protect you. You were the only guy in the game at that time that I thought, "this dude has to be fucking town".

On November 12 2010 13:50 kingjames01 wrote:
Also, it was CLEAR that Aeres tried to pretend to be a second bodyguard since he thought DCLXVI had accidentally outted himself. I understood as soon as it happened. The reason why I didn't bring it up was BECAUSE I understood as soon as it happened.

If you're FUCKING town, then put a little bit of thought into it, understand it and then go along with it, you shallow-minded fools. Don't make him explain himself. That negates the point of his move. He had a role which allowed him to take that risk. He took one for the team but you guys lynched him for it.


When Ace was going for LAL and some others supported, I came out and explained why Aeres could do a fake role claim as a Townie. I even pointed out the clues related to the Cruise Ship Captain role, which very possibly means the role exists and Aeres wasn't bull shitting about it. Town still lynched him, and I got myself mod killed for not being able to vote ;(
靈魂交響曲
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
November 12 2010 05:00 GMT
#4352
But now he does, hence it effectively stops him from lying in future games.

Even if a townie is found out to have lied and the rest of town isn't sure whether or not to lynch him, it's way too easy for scum to push LAL and influence the town and come out with a free lynch.

Do not lie.
lalala
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 12 2010 05:02 GMT
#4353
No! Screw the metagame! Insane mafia is the only game that matters!

Seriously, don't worry about the metagame, tl mafia's metagame is good mafia, lazy townies, a few good town leaders that get killed fast
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
November 12 2010 05:02 GMT
#4354
On November 12 2010 13:54 youngminii wrote:
Okay you have to calm the fuck down.

Lynch All Liars is a pro-town policy that is designed to stop unneeded confusion. You do not make up roleclaims in situations like that. Maybe in the end game where it can help you avoid a lylo or where you can protect someone very important but in his situation, LAL is the best policy.


Did you ever think about this at all?

Unless you can get the LAL policy in every single game, as a general consensus, this will never be the best policy, and will only be abused by the Mafia as a scapegoat.

靈魂交響曲
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 12 2010 05:03 GMT
#4355
On November 12 2010 14:02 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 13:54 youngminii wrote:
Okay you have to calm the fuck down.

Lynch All Liars is a pro-town policy that is designed to stop unneeded confusion. You do not make up roleclaims in situations like that. Maybe in the end game where it can help you avoid a lylo or where you can protect someone very important but in his situation, LAL is the best policy.


Did you ever think about this at all?

Unless you can get the LAL policy in every single game, as a general consensus, this will never be the best policy, and will only be abused by the Mafia as a scapegoat.



Agreed. While I did vote to lynch Aeres (-_-) I didn't think it was the best choice. LAL will be very abused by scum if we keep it as a general policy.
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kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 05:09:59
November 12 2010 05:08 GMT
#4356
On November 12 2010 13:54 youngminii wrote:
Okay you have to calm the fuck down.

Lynch All Liars is a pro-town policy that is designed to stop unneeded confusion. You do not make up roleclaims in situations like that. Maybe in the end game where it can help you avoid a lylo or where you can protect someone very important but in his situation, LAL is the best policy.


No, I don't need to 'calm the fuck down'.

Yeah, okay, it's designed to help the town.

However, if somewhere along the way, you should apply a little bit of the critical thinking that you, no doubt, have been developing throughout your life.

Whenever any move that you don't understand is made, you should stop and think, "hmm... why did that guy do that?" PUT SOME THOUGHT INTO YOUR GAME. Instead, most of the town started demanding answers. "Hey, I know that I could figure this out for myself, but I really like Hollywood movies where they tell you everything. If I wanted to think, I'd go do schoolwork. So, um... yeah, tell me everything." Do you know who this benefits? MAFIA.

THEN, when he goes and explains himself, some idiots realize that they've been lied to. OMG. It's the end of the world. Let's panic, run around in circles, fall on the ground, beat your chest, tear your clothes, light your torches and grab your pitchforks.

How about, YOU 'calm the fuck down' and show some restraint. Use some common sense. Yeah, he lied. Okay, DEAL WITH IT. Lynch All Liars is a good general rule if you think that the lie was designed to hurt the town. This was a lie designed to protect the bodyguard and DrH.

Edited: to take out harsh words.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 05:11:03
November 12 2010 05:09 GMT
#4357
That's fair. I'll always, always push for a LAL lynch regardless of whether I'm scum or not.

Unless it was done in a special scenario. Not following LAL just opens up opportunities to confuse and for scum to openly lie and get away with it imo. But everyone's entitled to an opinion.

Yeah, this post was not directed at kingjames.

You have to stop being aggressive, especially when you didn't make it past day 1. I don't care what you think about this game. I don't care what you think about my play. I don't even care if you're a smurf, why don't you just take it down a notch and talk in a readable manner that doesn't disgust me just by skimming it?
lalala
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 12 2010 05:10 GMT
#4358
On November 12 2010 14:08 kingjames01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 13:54 youngminii wrote:
Okay you have to calm the fuck down.

Lynch All Liars is a pro-town policy that is designed to stop unneeded confusion. You do not make up roleclaims in situations like that. Maybe in the end game where it can help you avoid a lylo or where you can protect someone very important but in his situation, LAL is the best policy.


No, I don't need to 'calm the fuck down'.

Yeah, okay, it's designed to help the town.

However, if somewhere along the way, you should apply a little bit of the critical thinking that you, no doubt, have been developing throughout your life.

Whenever any move that you don't understand is made, you should stop and think, "hmm... why did that guy do that?" PUT SOME THOUGHT INTO YOUR GAME. Instead, most of the town started demanding answers. "Hey, I know that I could figure this out for myself, but I really like Hollywood movies where they tell you everything. If I wanted to think, I'd go do schoolwork. So, um... yeah, tell me everything." Do you know who this benefits? MAFIA.

THEN, when he goes and explains himself, some idiots realize that they've been lied to. OMG. It's the end of the world. Let's panic, run around in circles, fall on the ground, beat your chest, tear your clothes, light your torches and grab your pitchforks.

How about, YOU 'calm the fuck down' and show some restraint. Use some common sense. Yeah, he lied. Okay, DEAL WITH IT. Lynch All Liars is a good general rule if you think that the lie was designed to hurt the town. This was a lie designed to protect the bodyguard and DrH.

Edited: to take out harsh words.


Aww someone needs a hug <3
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 12 2010 05:11 GMT
#4359
:< so many negative vibes
RIP Aaliyah
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 12 2010 05:13 GMT
#4360
On November 12 2010 14:10 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 14:08 kingjames01 wrote:
On November 12 2010 13:54 youngminii wrote:
Okay you have to calm the fuck down.

Lynch All Liars is a pro-town policy that is designed to stop unneeded confusion. You do not make up roleclaims in situations like that. Maybe in the end game where it can help you avoid a lylo or where you can protect someone very important but in his situation, LAL is the best policy.


No, I don't need to 'calm the fuck down'.

Yeah, okay, it's designed to help the town.

However, if somewhere along the way, you should apply a little bit of the critical thinking that you, no doubt, have been developing throughout your life.

Whenever any move that you don't understand is made, you should stop and think, "hmm... why did that guy do that?" PUT SOME THOUGHT INTO YOUR GAME. Instead, most of the town started demanding answers. "Hey, I know that I could figure this out for myself, but I really like Hollywood movies where they tell you everything. If I wanted to think, I'd go do schoolwork. So, um... yeah, tell me everything." Do you know who this benefits? MAFIA.

THEN, when he goes and explains himself, some idiots realize that they've been lied to. OMG. It's the end of the world. Let's panic, run around in circles, fall on the ground, beat your chest, tear your clothes, light your torches and grab your pitchforks.

How about, YOU 'calm the fuck down' and show some restraint. Use some common sense. Yeah, he lied. Okay, DEAL WITH IT. Lynch All Liars is a good general rule if you think that the lie was designed to hurt the town. This was a lie designed to protect the bodyguard and DrH.

Edited: to take out harsh words.


Aww someone needs a hug <3


*hugs kingjames*
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