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Kenpachi
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November 04 2010 01:12 GMT
#2641
well looking at Pandain posts, im suspecting Misder also
On November 01 2010 09:41 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
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On November 01 2010 09:40 Misder wrote:
On November 01 2010 09:29 Aeres wrote:
Just saw this in the voting thread:

On November 01 2010 09:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Day 2
Jcarlsoniv: 1
Elder Vote


Nice. Now we should make a list of who posted since night.
Aeres
NB
Glasse
DH
infinitestory
kitaman
Node
Pandain
deconduo
Meapak
ghrur
Lexpar
cubEdln
Ace
Fishball
jcarls
Misder

This list is long, and probably useless as the person can not post and PM Artanis/LSB but someone has something against jcarls. Is Elder a confirmed town, or could a mafia have that role?


Are you fishing to find out who is the elder?

Why?

Doc makes a good point on this

On November 01 2010 11:38 Misder wrote:
My analysis on Coagulation
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On October 22 2010 18:27 Coagulation wrote:
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On October 21 2010 16:14 orgolove wrote:
One thing. How the heck will you know if we PM or not? Aren't even mods not allowed to see people's PM's?



mods can see pms btw

Info that doesn’t pertain to the actual game.

On October 29 2010 11:21 Coagulation wrote:
Hi guys.

im torn between voting for Bumatlarge or Pandain for mayor!



No info on why he thinks both are equal. And I think this was when there was only two major candidates anyways.

On October 29 2010 12:44 Coagulation wrote:
bumatlarge. as a campaigning candidate for mayor what is your political stance on bandwagoning
are you pro Bandwagon
or Anti bandwagon

plz explain

Question that I don’t think actually matters for a mayor. It’s not like the mayor can start a bandwagon. And he doesn’t explain why this is crucial to his decision. And he doesn’t even ask Pandain the question, his other candidate that he’s considering to vote.

On October 29 2010 18:52 Coagulation wrote:
maybe im missing something but if fishball is in a town circle like he claims he is and this town circle has no security from reds at the moment why would we want him elected mayor. doesnt his town circle just greatly increase the chances of scum influence on the town.

like we vote for Bum or pandain there is a 1 in 39 chance of mafia influenced mayor
we vote for fishball there is a 7 in 39 chance of mafia influenced mayor


This post may have some substance, as he now has a stance against fishball. However, as kingjames pointed out right after this post, his math is wrong (as in hes assuming that everything is random).

On October 29 2010 20:42 Coagulation wrote:
ok i understand what your saying but there is still a higher chance of mafia gaining influence through fishball being elected as mayor

isnt his "circle" about as relevant as the general town circle at this point? considering he has no idea what the alignment of his circle members are. also we have no idea if he even has a circle.
is there even a way we can verify this before the vote??

It just seems to me like an unnecessary security breach for mayor.
why risk voting up to 7 scum into power when we can play the odds and take a much safer route of voting 1.

Continuing the same thing as the post above. Again, he tries to make a point. Flawed, as jcarls points out the post after, but its something at least.

On October 29 2010 23:52 Coagulation wrote:
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On October 29 2010 23:04 Fishball wrote:
On October 29 2010 20:42 Coagulation wrote:
ok i understand what your saying but there is still a higher chance of mafia gaining influence through fishball being elected as mayor

isnt his "circle" about as relevant as the general town circle at this point? considering he has no idea what the alignment of his circle members are. also we have no idea if he even has a circle.
is there even a way we can verify this before the vote??

It just seems to me like an unnecessary security breach for mayor.
why risk voting up to 7 scum into power when we can play the odds and take a much safer route of voting 1.


I DO NOT HAVE A TOWN CIRCLE.

Where the hell does this come from? Since after Ace starting using this term.
I repeat, we have a pre-made CIRCLE. People in this circle DOES NOT KNOW each other's role or alignment.



re-read my post. I referred to your circle ONLY as "circle" I am well aware that you dont have a town circle that was the whole basis of my post.

Defends himself. And he is correct that Fishball was overreacting.

On October 30 2010 00:07 Coagulation wrote:
How about instead of blowing up about imaginary references to your CIRCLE in my post you answer the question that you completely avoided.

why would we want to risk a chance of 7 people possibly being scum manipulating town with mayor when we can go with the much safer odds of only 1 person possibly being scum.


Same question as before. jcarls answered this as stated before.

On October 30 2010 00:12 Coagulation wrote:
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On October 30 2010 00:06 annul wrote:
(dark background, wispy white smoke, dramatic thunderclaps and epic scary voiceovers)


pandain? (*bad picture of pandain roaring like a panda bear*) whaddanub! i hear lying as town is pro.

bumatlarge? (*bad picture of bumatlarge flashing fangs and raging against chains on a wall*) whaddanub! i hear dying night 1 as the suicide bomber is a pro move.

fishball? (*bad picture of a fish out of water*) whaddanub! who the hell names themself fishball?

is this who you want to lead your town?

(shift to a light background, with sunlight and sun rays, blue sky. dramatic music suddenly shifting to great happy tunes (think of the polyphonic spree) and the voiceover changes to that hot asian girl who did map voiceovers for MLG)

annul? (*good picture of annul flexing and the light shining off of his body, halo-style*) whaddapro! he knows how to lead towns! also, this time he is actually town and actually wants mayor for good reasons! annul wouldn't be so bold as to try the same strategy twice in a row, especially starting on day 1, unless he had a great plan, with bold leadership, to deliver the town to massive victory! annul's active, reading every post and playing the game as it should be played. a vote for annul is a vote for victory!


(imagery shifts one last time to a side-view shot of annul at his keyboard, head-turned and smiling, legs crossed, in full dress wizard robes (think: "business suit" of the wizarding world))

im annul v. and i support this message


i know i shouldnt base previous exploits from previous games on a fresh game but i honestly feel you have a snowballs chance in hell of being elected after Halloween mafia..

Starts basing things off of a previous mafia game. This was before the mod warning, but still…

On October 30 2010 00:26 Coagulation wrote:
We need someone who is good at mafia but terrible at manipulation.

pandain is probably the best candidate under these parameters. he is an extremely organized and tactical scum hunter his analyses skills are good and he has a good level head about what needs to be done.

i have also noticed that he is a terrible lier and his posting style makes his motives extremely transparent. this would make it much easier for us to spot a slip up if he is mafia. and greatly increases the chances that he would fail at getting away with scum moves if it turns out he is a red.


Makes a stance on his choice of mayor. Yay.

On October 30 2010 00:32 Coagulation wrote:
I think it would be in towns best interest to avoid placing an extremely skilled manipulator such as annul in the mayor seat when he could potentially be a red.

Consistent from what I’m assuming. I don’t know what happened in the previous mafia game, but I assume that annul did some crazy manipulation. Although annul is one of the newer players of mafia, he may be good at mafia in the eyes of Coagulation.

On October 30 2010 00:34 Coagulation wrote:
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On October 30 2010 00:30 CubEdIn wrote:
Do we HAVE to vote for a mayor? I don't like all these arguments.


Can we worry about the more pressing issue? Meaning, who dies in the day1 lynching?


yeah i honestly feel like i dont trust ANYONE that wants to be mayor..

No reasoning behind this statement. Why not trust Pandain who you defended, or buma, who you also were considering?

On October 30 2010 00:40 Coagulation wrote:
doesn't the mayor choose day 1 lynch??

Question that was answered before. That’s ok once in a while.

On October 30 2010 01:35 Coagulation wrote:
wait whos jerkin off smurfs?

An irrelevant post.

On October 30 2010 01:55 Coagulation wrote:
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On October 30 2010 01:44 Fishball wrote:
On October 30 2010 00:07 Coagulation wrote:
How about instead of blowing up about imaginary references to your CIRCLE in my post you answer the question that you completely avoided.

why would we want to risk a chance of 7 people possibly being scum manipulating town with mayor when we can go with the much safer odds of only 1 person possibly being scum.



I'm at work. I answer what I can given the time that I have, but I have always come back and address the rest. This is not dodging. People who have played with me in previous games will know.

I think you meant 6 people, as I said there are only 6 people in this group. Now why would Mafia include 6 of their 9 buddies in this circle? Why 6? Not 3, not 4, but 6?
Assume what you say is true, all 6 of us are Mafia, how exactly would we "manipulate" town? What stops the other solo Mayor and his "non-circle" buddies to manipulate town? Different scenario, but the outcome can very well be the same.

Everyone can debate about the "truth", but no one can argue about that fact that I did offer information, and I want/need protection. With me being Mayor, doesn't make me a dictator. I still need the help of the town to provide valuable input.



im not saying there are 6 mafia in your circle as opposed to any other number im just saying there are 6 ''chances'' that mafia are in your circle as opposed to there only being 1 chance of a mafia getting voted in as mayor if we elect someone outside your circle.

there are alot of scenarios obviously that can play out but i just want everyone to understand that there is an added risk to you being mayor. as for whether your ability as mayor + your plan with your circle outweigh those risk's is up for debate.

my problem is this. If we elect you as mayor.. you will have communications with people outside of this thread(pm) that will influence the game and could be extremely vital to scum hunting.

I would rather have a mayor that has transparency.. any communications he makes will be public so we can keep an eye on him.



More on the circle. Surprisingly, I think it’s good input, and consistent.

On October 30 2010 02:44 Coagulation wrote:
may, may not, in fact, almost certainly

well you got the politician thing down perfectly.


Unimportant post.

On October 30 2010 06:15 Coagulation wrote:
Doc you are all over the place with votes man
I will think about voting for you because i think you are very experienced however
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On October 30 2010 00:26 Coagulation wrote:
We need someone who is good at mafia but terrible at manipulation.

pandain is probably the best candidate under these parameters. he is an extremely organized and tactical scum hunter his analyses skills are good and he has a good level head about what needs to be done.

i have also noticed that he is a terrible lier and his posting style makes his motives extremely transparent. this would make it much easier for us to spot a slip up if he is mafia. and greatly increases the chances that he would fail at getting away with scum moves if it turns out he is a red.


I feel like if DocH Is a red we would never know.

Inconsistency here. DH is the one of the better manipulators in mafia… This basically contradicts his post. Neither does he say why being experience outweighs being manipulative, esp. since he totally put down Fishball, an even more experienced player.

On October 30 2010 07:08 Coagulation wrote:
How do we know the person who is "verifying" your confirmation of your role isnt just a Scumbuddy of yours?

Good question, assuming this is directed towards DH.

On October 30 2010 07:10 Coagulation wrote:
Maybe Godfather Will verify so no one can DT check him properly
thats possible right?

Again, good question.

On October 30 2010 07:27 Coagulation wrote:
DocH You basically said YOU WILL PROVE your town and then basically said "MAYBE DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS I WILL PROVE IT IM NOT SURE"

I dont think pandain would be the greatest mayor
However
i would rather pandain then Annul and his manipulation if he is RED
and i would rather pandain then fishbowl and his "EXTREMELY SHY?? circle"
I would really really like for you to make me feel comfortable voting for you for mayor. but your doing a bad job so far.

Makes a good point on DH’s campaign. Completely didn’t compare Pandain with buma though (don’t know if this was before buma said hes going to retract his candidacy)

On October 30 2010 07:29 Coagulation wrote:
FISHBOWL =FISHBALL Sorry. Wheres This guys circle at?? wouldnt they claim by now??

Poses a question, and not a bad one.

On October 30 2010 08:07 Coagulation wrote:
Because hes not trying really really super hard to be mayor i figure hes just a good honest townie offering to take the spot and do his best.

you guys are gonna start tearing each other to shreds over the role makes me think you got something else going on.


On October 30 2010 08:09 Coagulation wrote:
actually to be honest i would rather we nominate ACE OR ANYONE that isnt TRYING to be mayor

Kinda consistent to what hes saying before. Although I feel that Ace would be as manipulative as annul…

On October 30 2010 09:42 Coagulation wrote:


DocH
Anyone that doesn't fucking vote for you must be scum?
Are you fucking serious ?

i voted for Pandain because it was a choice between Him And Fishball at the time (bum withdrew his candidacy before i voted or I would have voted him for my placeholder instead of pandain)
I posted many reasons why i chose pandain over fishball MANY Logical reasons.
i will repost them for you ****This was before you had decided to run for mayor

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On October 30 2010 01:55 Coagulation wrote:
On October 30 2010 01:44 Fishball wrote:
On October 30 2010 00:07 Coagulation wrote:
How about instead of blowing up about imaginary references to your CIRCLE in my post you answer the question that you completely avoided.

why would we want to risk a chance of 7 people possibly being scum manipulating town with mayor when we can go with the much safer odds of only 1 person possibly being scum.



I'm at work. I answer what I can given the time that I have, but I have always come back and address the rest. This is not dodging. People who have played with me in previous games will know.

I think you meant 6 people, as I said there are only 6 people in this group. Now why would Mafia include 6 of their 9 buddies in this circle? Why 6? Not 3, not 4, but 6?
Assume what you say is true, all 6 of us are Mafia, how exactly would we "manipulate" town? What stops the other solo Mayor and his "non-circle" buddies to manipulate town? Different scenario, but the outcome can very well be the same.

Everyone can debate about the "truth", but no one can argue about that fact that I did offer information, and I want/need protection. With me being Mayor, doesn't make me a dictator. I still need the help of the town to provide valuable input.




I would rather have a mayor that has transparency.. any communications he makes will be public so we can keep an eye on him.




Is that not a reasonable reason considering the two choices?? maybe not the greatest reason but I FEEL CONFIDENT we are not getting FUCKED BEHIND OUR BACKS.

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On October 30 2010 00:26 Coagulation wrote:
We need someone who is good at mafia but terrible at manipulation.

pandain is probably the best candidate under these parameters. he is an extremely organized and tactical scum hunter his analyses skills are good and he has a good level head about what needs to be done.

i have also noticed that he is a terrible lier and his posting style makes his motives extremely transparent. this would make it much easier for us to spot a slip up if he is mafia. and greatly increases the chances that he would fail at getting away with scum moves if it turns out he is a red.



Is that not a reasonable reason?? YOU SAID THE SAME THING EARLIER.

Now i am sticking with pandain because he is most likely not a red trying to gain control of town based on the fact that he is not campaigning relentlessly.


Pandain is more then capable of using what tools he has at his disposal to help coordinate a good town strategy and i doubt he would run for mayor if he thought his role wasnt capable of contributing greatly as mayor.. and I FEEL HE is the most TRUSTWORTHY candidate so far BASED ON HIS ACTIONS IN THIS GAME. I Dont get the same feeling from you when your Threatening "FOS" On anyone that doesnt vote you..


IM NOT VOTING on WHOS PROMISING SOME BULLSHIT IF THEY GET MAYOR (town circle?? where??)
IM VOTING ON WHO I TRUST THE MOST IN MY GUT

IS THAT REASON ENOUGH?




Gets a bit mad in this post. However, I don’t think this is a bad thing. He’s strong and on the offensive.

On October 30 2010 10:43 Coagulation wrote:
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On October 30 2010 10:38 ghrur wrote:
On October 30 2010 10:33 Pandain wrote:
*sigh*
Pandain:
1. I can prove I'm legit if elected.
2.I'm apparently very transparent
3.Relies on open discussion and debate.
Dr. H:
1.Can prove he's legit if elected
2.Is not transparent, is a master mafioso and a mayer Dr. H I would fear above all
3. Relies on secret pm circles which can easily be infiltrated. Same problem goes with Fishball, they would spend days trying to find mafia which might not even exist.

DTS should check mayoral canidates, most likely to find a mafia(at least one mafia must've run, else they're just handing us the game on a platter.)

Since so many people claimed valuable roles while running for election, those people must be at the top of the priority list for medic protection. And as of now, Fishball's "circle" hasn't said anything, so I'm beginning to become highly suscipcious of Fishball.

Again, if you are in Fishball's circle, say so now. You don't have to say your role or anything, just say if you are. If no one does, I am going to lynch Fishball day 1.


You can prove you're legit if you're elected?
How?


i think mayor can be dt checked.
dont quote me tho

Puts his input, but not sure about it. He could have just asked the question to the mod. But made an extra post saying basically nothing.

On October 30 2010 11:28 Coagulation wrote:
dr h and pandain it would be nice if you guys could talk about something relevent to the town and disregard this little pissing contest you guys have going on right now.

Wants to clean up the thread. Kinda funny since he has made some irrelevant posts himself.

On October 30 2010 11:40 Coagulation wrote:
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On October 30 2010 11:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Also, it'd be great if we could get a few more people on the replacement list. If you're following the game and want to be on it, please PM me.


I dont know why anyone in their right fucking mind following this shit storm would want to join in.

Irrelevant to the game.

On October 30 2010 12:24 Coagulation wrote:
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On October 30 2010 12:20 Glasse wrote:
On October 30 2010 12:18 infinitestory wrote:
On October 30 2010 12:16 Glasse wrote:
On October 30 2010 12:13 NB wrote:
so we have 3 main candidates: Panda, dish, doctor... Who of you will promise to protect me from scums? :3


I will protect you as i can't be killed during the game!. I will always be there for you! Vote for me!


wait, WHAT?


You heard it, even god would not be able to kill me!


this sounds legit.

Post that isn’t needed.

On October 30 2010 13:18 Coagulation wrote:
why are you responding to it?
just wondering.. obviously hes just fucking around.

Inconsistent again. He himself responded to Glasse.

On October 30 2010 14:20 Coagulation wrote:
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On October 30 2010 14:05 kingjames01 wrote:
On October 30 2010 13:56 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 30 2010 13:55 kingjames01 wrote:
On October 30 2010 13:51 infinitestory wrote:
Just thought of another way DrH might fake the role:

Suppose his claim about the poking is correct, including that the poked knows DrH did the poking. But say DrH were a mafia and the 1 person infected with Murrayitis. This "poke" could be the method by which he transfers Murrayitis... and the person poked would still confirm that DrH poked him, thus establishing credibility. The plague doctors would immunize the people DrH tells them to, possibly including any reds that end up infected.

This possibility has me extremely paranoid if only because it gives the reds such a gigantic advantage. The only ways I can think of to beat this scenario are very WIFOM.


DAMN. That's so true. I was so excited to figure out the connection that I forgot to stay suspicious. IF Bill Murry died while using Sticky, then it's VERY LIKELY that Sticky is infected with Murrayitis. If Sticky pokes someone that would pass it on... Then DrH pretends to be notified.


You're speculating on mod logic based on the storyline of a past game

pretty far out there if you ask me. this is getting way too meta.


I disagree. Your role is "Sticky". You admitted that yourself. It cannot be denied that the theme of the game revolves around Bill Murray. My logic isn't based on the storyline of a past game. It's based on finding connections around the theme:

- Bill Murray died in Haunted Mafia giving rise to Murrayitis
- Bill Murray died in Mafia XXXI holding a sticky named Sticky
- There is an actual role called "Sticky"
- Sticky's ability involves poking people

On October 29 2010 06:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Day 1

Rise and Shine! It is now Day 1! And no one is infected by Murrayitis... Yet.


If no one has Murrayitis yet, then no PERSON has Murrayitis yet. However, a Sticky might. That Sticky is you.

the plot thickens.

however i cant help but notice that he revealed his role honestly ( as far as we know it was pretty much confirmed by the fact that we found a logical link to it in another game that fits perfectly?)
then there is still the chance hes mafia sticky.
but I cant see a scum willingly giving up this kind of info like that.

I hate the way drH plays but his story is starting to come together. i still worry that he is too fucking good at this game to chance him possibly gaining such an advantage as a red.



Good. Tells his stance on DH after DH told the town his role. A little inconsistent to what he said earlier though, about manipulation.

On October 30 2010 14:30 Coagulation wrote:
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On October 30 2010 14:22 Fishball wrote:
Even if I don't get the Mayor at the end, I still might reveal my role at that point, but this requires more consideration.



I think you are much better off not being mayor

If a red slips into power as mayor and you are truly pro town as you say you are we are gonna need someone who can organize as a backup plan.

I think you would be best suited as our ace up the sleeve in case mayor gets compromised.

Sure, makes a good point.

On October 30 2010 14:39 Coagulation wrote:
Hosting a game has nothing to do with playing in this game. all bitching about something like that is gonna do is create drama that town doesnt need to deal with.

Not useful post.

On October 30 2010 14:43 Coagulation wrote:
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On October 30 2010 14:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
watch the mafia keep grasping at straws to try to make me look bad and red when I've done more to show i'm town than anyone in this game

and then they want to vote for pandain lololol


I told you why I voted for pandain.
and frankly from last game you pretty much showed me you have no problem being mafia and cramming town talk down my fucking throat without thinking twice. so im still skeptical.

He did say why he voted for Pandain, so, hes consistent here.

On October 30 2010 14:58 Coagulation wrote:
rofl

Irrelevant.

On October 31 2010 08:53 Coagulation wrote:
LOL THE BOOGER THROWER

Irrelevant.

On October 31 2010 13:39 Coagulation wrote:
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On October 31 2010 12:39 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
SUP ALL!

Going to start reading now O_O!



PUT YOUR FLAME RESISTANT PANTS ON.

Irrelevant.

On October 31 2010 14:10 Coagulation wrote:
Dodging a lynch sounds alot like a scum role.. anyone else think so?

Makes a point, and poses a question. Don’t think its bad.

On October 31 2010 19:08 Coagulation wrote:
OK i have caught up on reading

1. DOCH naturally I still cant trust you 100% until I can see some of your claims of verifying yourself come to light. I really hope your not a red otherwise we may as well just bend over and let you get to fucking.

2. you have a moron for a bodyguard

3. Node is asking for invites to the circle? i would think twice before letting people who request in. looks like 1 red was already in the circle. he dies and now Node starts asking to get in?(could be mafia trying to get a man back inside)
looks bad but not gonna dwell on it too much yet..

4. pandain I dunno what the hell you are talking about. Im not gonna keep my mouth shut if someone looks scummy just because they are not around to defend themselves.


Makes good points. Well, except for 2 as DXC technically didn’t say he was bodyguard.

On November 01 2010 06:02 Coagulation wrote:
concerning bodyguards
1. there are 2 bodyguards and mods lied to us (mods lie to us then thats bullshit)
2. there is 1 bodyguard and one of them lied. i dont think that would necessarily be scummy considering it can take heat off the real bodyguard and confuse mafia and keep the real bodyguard safe.

lets not do anymore roleclaims guys. we are handing so much info to the reds its not good at all.
if you got a role that needs to be revealed think on it for a day or two first.






Good point, and I agree.

On November 01 2010 06:32 Coagulation wrote:
dt needs to investigate pandain for sure considering he was running for mayor.

also the other people who wanted elected mayor
bumatlarge
fishball
annul
ghrur
glasse
node

also worth keeping an eye on node who is asking for people to invite him into circle.


Talks about how need to check mayor candidates. Not bad.

On November 01 2010 06:57 Coagulation wrote:
well regardless we need to get to the bottom of the youngminii thing somehow i think thats the point hes trying to make. i still feel like there is a good possibility that his ability is either a red ability or he was saved by a red allie. i dont want this to just blow under the radar

Sure, a valid point.

On November 01 2010 07:12 Coagulation wrote:
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On November 01 2010 07:01 Lexpar wrote:
If I die tonight Doc H is almost definitely scum.


just the fact that you posted this comment nullifies itself

Technically not useful, but kinda makes a point.

On November 01 2010 07:15 Coagulation wrote:
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On November 01 2010 07:14 Glasse wrote:
Hey guys if i die tonight Glasse is almost definitely blue.


why on earth did we not make you mayor.

Not helpful.

On November 01 2010 07:32 Coagulation wrote:
ya hes in a circle that is allowed to pm he however isnt give the role/alignment of the people with him.

Answers a question.

On November 01 2010 09:53 Coagulation wrote:
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On November 01 2010 09:25 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 01 2010 09:24 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On November 01 2010 09:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 01 2010 09:20 Misder wrote:
@DH
Earlier, you said you were going to poke the person you thought is most likely town. So why do you think that jcarls is town?


Agreeable posts, good analysis, cool headed and logical. He didn't make a big roleclaim or bring a lot of attention onto himself and seemed for that reason to be a good target for me.


Awwww that's the nicest thing anyone's ever said about me! ... on the internet...

I didn't realize I was actually an important player in this game.

On November 01 2010 08:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I would like to announce that last night I poked jcarlsoniv. I did not receive a PM from Artanis or LSB meaning the poke was successful and jcarlsoniv does not have murrayitis.


I cannot confirm this Dr.H, I did not receive a PM from the mods saying I was poked.


Did you receive any other night actions?

Something stopped my poke from going through to jcarlsoniv.



how fucking convenient.







Yay for being pissed off and not putting analysis. Although this is consistent to how he was acting before DH was elected.

On November 01 2010 10:17 Coagulation wrote:
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On October 30 2010 07:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
you'll see very soon that the information I'm providing will be beneficial to the town and we'll see real results in numbers. I can back this up.


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On October 30 2010 07:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
there are other things to my power that will prove beyond any doubt that I am a pro-town player. they may not take affect immediately but everything will be quite clear when I am elected and roleclaim


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On October 30 2010 06:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
did you even read the thread? i am going to prove that I am my blue role as soon as I am elected.


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On October 30 2010 09:27 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I can demonstrate my role is exactly what it is one I am able to use it. If this is not the case then feel free to lynch me.


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On October 30 2010 09:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Why does that make you nervous? I can prove to the entire town that I am town aligned. If I don't do that, simply lynch me.


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On October 30 2010 09:23 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I am saying I am 100% able to prove I have a not scummy role and if I am found in any way to be lying, the town can lynch me. You don't have to take me at my word but this is a huge gambit I'm taking with a very small payoff if I am mafia.


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On October 30 2010 06:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
i'm the only candidate aside from node who is claiming to offer 100% proof that I am not mafia when I'm elected, just saying




Imo, makes a good point.

On November 01 2010 10:20 Coagulation wrote:
im not saying doch is red
im not saying that mafia wouldnt have anything to gain by discrediting him if he is a townie

im saying he had a campaign of bullshit.

Sure, agreed.

On November 01 2010 10:23 Coagulation wrote:
he claims he had thought about being roleblocked. yet he still claims 100% proof the whole time hes campaigning ITS CONVENIENT he happens to leave that out of his campaign

Same as above.

On November 01 2010 10:25 Coagulation wrote:
DOCH is not a shitty player there is no fucking way he got blindsided by something as simple as a ROLEBLOCK.

Same as above.

On November 01 2010 10:34 Coagulation wrote:
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On November 01 2010 10:31 Glasse wrote:
On November 01 2010 10:20 Coagulation wrote:
im not saying doch is red
im not saying that mafia wouldnt have anything to gain by discrediting him if he is a townie

im saying he had a campaign of bullshit.


i'd like to point out that there is always less than 10% truth in any elections.


so wait.. your not a god???

Unhelpful.


Conclusion: After going through his posts, he doesn’t really seem scummy to me anymore. Aside from multiple irrelevant, unhelpful, and sarcastic posts, he does bring up good points. I think there are times where he makes a statement, but doesn’t back it up, which he should do. Other than that, I feel that Coagulation is actually blue.

I’m probably doing Pandain next, unless someone else wants to do it.
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When I’m doing analysis like this, do I have to go through all of the posts, and put my thoughts on them? It’s really time consuming esp when its someone that posts a lot…
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bringing this post back up because the voting is being decided between Coag and Pandain. Its an analysis of coag's posts before pg82.

Pandain's posts arent all that scummy except for the fact that hes been trying prove Doc as scum, which is certainly a possibility.

I think someone should do this job because all i found was pandain trying to prove doch as scum and about 2/5 of the posts in the search are just posts with Pandain's name in it (quotes, etc) and people are suspicious. I think Ace nailed my opinion from this relook.

On November 01 2010 06:17 Ace wrote:
Guys, stop and think for a second.

Misder and Pandain both tried to ask youngminii for information, pretty much trying to force a role claim.

AT NIGHT!.

we can't vote right now so why force a roleclain out of youngminii? Both of them need to be looked at heavily from now on. If you're a Detective please investigate one of these guys and if they flip Scum do some damage.



PS: would it be helpful if i were to give out my role?
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
November 04 2010 01:13 GMT
#2642
Hang on, he says his role is ADD Detective but he RNGs a target. But the ADD Doctor has a 10% chance of killing his patient if his patient wasn't 'sick'. Shouldn't that make an ADD Detective a Detective that gets a wrong reading 10% of the time?

Food for thought, don't look into it too much (yet).
lalala
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 04 2010 01:13 GMT
#2643
Not if you think it will make you a mafia target. Unless you can give us some information by roleclaiming that will lead us to a mafia lynch, keep it to yourself
RIP Aaliyah
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
November 04 2010 01:14 GMT
#2644
On November 04 2010 09:49 CubEdIn wrote:
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On November 04 2010 09:45 Node wrote:
On November 04 2010 09:10 CubEdIn wrote:
On November 04 2010 09:07 LunarDestiny wrote:
On November 04 2010 08:27 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
LunarDestiny implied I poked him before I told everyone I poked him

he still needs to confirm it but I'm pretty sure it went through this time.

Confirm, short message too. Something like I was poked by DrH.

Also, it seems that Node's ability is not actually foreseeing a person's death but somehow knowing where a mafia hit going to go at the start of the day. Given that there is two deaths and mafia's kill power is 2+1, that "+1" should be the hit that Node is "foreseeing."


Damn you ninja.

Also, yes, I was gonna ask node about this, how exactly are you foreseeing (i remember you are oracle, right? but i forget the exact mechanics), and when exactly are you informed of the person who will be targeted?


I am informed of a person that is going to die at the beginning of every day via mod PM. Because of this, I believe the person is chosen randomly, as I can't see the mafia choosing someone ahead of time, especially on the first day.


Maybe first day was random, and then they have to pick 1 day ahead. (they = mafia)

Either way, please read this people:


On November 04 2010 09:29 Kenpachi wrote:
after all, im just a teenager.


This is a standard handicap role, also known as "the warewolf" where one person has to say a world at least once a day. I don't see why else he would post that, but I'll go check previous days.

I am worried because as far as I know, this role is red usually. But I could be wrong. Help me out here.

oh, well ill say High school student then lol
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 04 2010 01:15 GMT
#2645
On November 04 2010 10:13 youngminii wrote:
Hang on, he says his role is ADD Detective but he RNGs a target. But the ADD Doctor has a 10% chance of killing his patient if his patient wasn't 'sick'. Shouldn't that make an ADD Detective a Detective that gets a wrong reading 10% of the time?

Food for thought, don't look into it too much (yet).

meh, I doubt it's exactly the same. I'm inclined to believe him because he fished for other ADD DT's in the same way I did for other stickys.

I'd think it's more likely he has a 100% chance of investigating correctly, since orgolove actually had a 100% chance of saving right?
RIP Aaliyah
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
November 04 2010 01:15 GMT
#2646
On November 04 2010 10:13 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Not if you think it will make you a mafia target. Unless you can give us some information by roleclaiming that will lead us to a mafia lynch, keep it to yourself

well lets hope the person i vote for is lynched AND is a mafia and i can activate my superpowers
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 04 2010 01:16 GMT
#2647
On November 04 2010 10:15 Kenpachi wrote:
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On November 04 2010 10:13 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Not if you think it will make you a mafia target. Unless you can give us some information by roleclaiming that will lead us to a mafia lynch, keep it to yourself

well lets hope the person i vote for is lynched AND is a mafia and i can activate my superpowers

dont say anything else
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 04 2010 01:16 GMT
#2648
the only people who should be roleclaiming at this point are people who can out a mafia with their role. if a DT finds a mafia, come out. otherwise keep it to yourself. don't give the mafia ANYTHING to work with.
RIP Aaliyah
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
November 04 2010 01:17 GMT
#2649
On November 04 2010 10:13 youngminii wrote:
Hang on, he says his role is ADD Detective but he RNGs a target. But the ADD Doctor has a 10% chance of killing his patient if his patient wasn't 'sick'. Shouldn't that make an ADD Detective a Detective that gets a wrong reading 10% of the time?

Food for thought, don't look into it too much (yet).


Even if his check is 10% wrong, it's better for him to reveal his information.

Usually I'd ask for more proof before trusting a DT, but looking at Coag's posts - I mean really why not believe him. If his check is wrong then it landed on someone who buddied up quite well to a suspected Scum player.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
November 04 2010 01:18 GMT
#2650
On November 04 2010 10:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
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On November 04 2010 10:13 youngminii wrote:
Hang on, he says his role is ADD Detective but he RNGs a target. But the ADD Doctor has a 10% chance of killing his patient if his patient wasn't 'sick'. Shouldn't that make an ADD Detective a Detective that gets a wrong reading 10% of the time?

Food for thought, don't look into it too much (yet).

meh, I doubt it's exactly the same. I'm inclined to believe him because he fished for other ADD DT's in the same way I did for other stickys.

I'd think it's more likely he has a 100% chance of investigating correctly, since orgolove actually had a 100% chance of saving right?

Yeah but I'm just saying there's the possibility of him lying about his roleclaim, since I've never seen an ADD role that wasn't a "x% chance of getting the opposite result" type of thing. Oh well Coagulation's mafia anyway, bus or not so no use worrying about it now.

By the way, Pandain voted at 10:06 TL time and hasn't posted in this thread (I was giving him time to post before writing this). At a time where someone should be defending themselves heavily instead of lurking like he is, I think it's fair to say he's either not playing well or he's very scummy.
lalala
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 04 2010 01:18 GMT
#2651
detective is probably the worst role for a mafia to fake in any game, this game in particular tbh
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 04 2010 01:19 GMT
#2652
On November 04 2010 10:18 youngminii wrote:
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On November 04 2010 10:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 04 2010 10:13 youngminii wrote:
Hang on, he says his role is ADD Detective but he RNGs a target. But the ADD Doctor has a 10% chance of killing his patient if his patient wasn't 'sick'. Shouldn't that make an ADD Detective a Detective that gets a wrong reading 10% of the time?

Food for thought, don't look into it too much (yet).

meh, I doubt it's exactly the same. I'm inclined to believe him because he fished for other ADD DT's in the same way I did for other stickys.

I'd think it's more likely he has a 100% chance of investigating correctly, since orgolove actually had a 100% chance of saving right?

Yeah but I'm just saying there's the possibility of him lying about his roleclaim, since I've never seen an ADD role that wasn't a "x% chance of getting the opposite result" type of thing. Oh well Coagulation's mafia anyway, bus or not so no use worrying about it now.

By the way, Pandain voted at 10:06 TL time and hasn't posted in this thread (I was giving him time to post before writing this). At a time where someone should be defending themselves heavily instead of lurking like he is, I think it's fair to say he's either not playing well or he's very scummy.

he might be under silence orders

if he is mafia the best move is for him to just shut up and not give us any information. if i was sure i was gonna be lynched I'd just stop posting.
RIP Aaliyah
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
November 04 2010 01:22 GMT
#2653
On November 04 2010 10:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
detective is probably the worst role for a mafia to fake in any game, this game in particular tbh


o.0

You'd be surprised. Millers + Sanity = lots of room to fakeclaim.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 04 2010 01:23 GMT
#2654
On November 04 2010 10:22 Ace wrote:
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On November 04 2010 10:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
detective is probably the worst role for a mafia to fake in any game, this game in particular tbh


o.0

You'd be surprised. Millers + Sanity = lots of room to fakeclaim.

what role would millers show up as? definitely not regular red goons
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 04 2010 01:23 GMT
#2655
On November 04 2010 10:22 Ace wrote:
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On November 04 2010 10:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
detective is probably the worst role for a mafia to fake in any game, this game in particular tbh


o.0

You'd be surprised. Millers + Sanity = lots of room to fakeclaim.


In a game where no role is certain it's hard to fake. No one knows what roles exist in the game so it's hard to fake rolechecks when you have to make shit up. That's why I feel Godfather is underpowered in this game as well, nothing is cut and dry.
RIP Aaliyah
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 04 2010 01:25 GMT
#2656
Good catch with Coagulation, infinite.

But regarding me, I admit I was wrong about Dr. H since he has obviously confirmed himself. But honestly I was in doubt as to whether he would actually do it, and if I think someone is mafia, I'm not just going to let them live.

On November 04 2010 08:59 KtheZ wrote:
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Original Message From Ace:
lol. Depending on who dies tonight, I think he might be the scummiest player in the game. I remember he said he could confirm himself, just like Dr.H did and so far he has never made mention of that fact again.

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Original Message From bumatlarge:
hope he gets a vig to the face. Otherwise he just a player causing arguments that lead no where and distract town from the vibrant display of information we have. Aeres first though.
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Original Message From Ace:
What do you think of Pandain?


Read from top up; After browsing through the last 20-30 pages, I find Pandain to be the most scummy right now. His last 2 notable posts are:
1.
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We need medics to protect dxcvii, he's the only person who we really KNOW is going to get hit. If anyone's in a town circle with medics, make sure to coordinate them so at least one person(prefferably one) is protecting him.

I find it quite scummy how he is trying to give directions to the blue roles, while also trying to have the medics mass save this one person. He tries to cover this up by telling PM circles to coordinate, but he knows full well that several PM circles (fishball and bumatlarge for now) have gone to hell. Ya, and we ended up saving him, no? And clearly my post says not for everyone to protect him, that would be retarded. And also, wtf, fishball and bum weren't dead then.

2. He made an enormous post about how Dr.H is oh so terrible and scummy (on page 109), but it seems apparent to me that Dr.H has already roleclaimed and proven (sorta, not 100% sure) that he is what he is. Also, Pandain has no evidence of being pro-town besides his extreme insistence of lynching the mayor. No duh, this was before and really he WAS suscipcious, I mean, look at my post on him and I believe it is perfectly logical. He did explain alot of stuff, but until he succesfully confirmed someone he was on my scum list.
3. He parrotted divinek (mafia) ---- Basically quoted from Dr.H

Basically, I think Pandain is mafia because of his insistence on assaulting Dr.H, but lacks comprehensive evidence that he is pro-town.
Pandain mentioned that he would have enough evidence to come forth on day 2 or day 3. Isn't that a blatantly obvious stall for time? If he is DT or ANYTHING he should be able to prove himself HERE and NOW, rather than need several days to compile evidence of his non-guilt. He basically took all the arguments about undefined role against him, and "postponed" them so that he could instead hound Dr.H on what HIS role is. Wrong again. It's a fact because of my role. Just like how infinite stories role contains "indirect" confirmation(can only really confirm himself if he finds scum) my role is like that. And the point of Dr. H was that he WAS supposed to be able to confirm himself night one. I clearly said my role couldn't.

I'd prefer if someone proved me wrong, but this is what I managed to conclude after reading for like 20-30 minutes of the forum.

I may add more later.


On November 04 2010 10:08 youngminii wrote:
I think the fact that Pandain has 6 pages (100 posts each) of posts mostly to do with his interaction with DrH, then starting to lurk after the attention was brought on him indicates a little bit of his scumminess, don't ya think?

Lucky break with the mafia retard. I honestly thought infinitestory was more scummy than most others.


Honestly if not for the fact a Judas role woudl be incrediably OP for town, I would've highly suspected you of being mafia. I mean, here's the gist of your argument against me:
"Just stop, I hate reading long posts. Analytical posts are crap. I'm not going to debate your arguments but they're crap."

On November 04 2010 10:18 youngminii wrote:
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On November 04 2010 10:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 04 2010 10:13 youngminii wrote:
Hang on, he says his role is ADD Detective but he RNGs a target. But the ADD Doctor has a 10% chance of killing his patient if his patient wasn't 'sick'. Shouldn't that make an ADD Detective a Detective that gets a wrong reading 10% of the time?

Food for thought, don't look into it too much (yet).

meh, I doubt it's exactly the same. I'm inclined to believe him because he fished for other ADD DT's in the same way I did for other stickys.

I'd think it's more likely he has a 100% chance of investigating correctly, since orgolove actually had a 100% chance of saving right?

Yeah but I'm just saying there's the possibility of him lying about his roleclaim, since I've never seen an ADD role that wasn't a "x% chance of getting the opposite result" type of thing. Oh well Coagulation's mafia anyway, bus or not so no use worrying about it now.

By the way, Pandain voted at 10:06 TL time and hasn't posted in this thread (I was giving him time to post before writing this). At a time where someone should be defending themselves heavily instead of lurking like he is, I think it's fair to say he's either not playing well or he's very scummy.

Or I'm reading everything here and responding to it. I had to catch up like ~10 pages. In addition to the fact a new page occurs every like 3 minutes -.-.

On November 03 2010 08:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
can i take the time to say that divineks only contentful posts in this thread were attempts to discredit my campaign/make me look bad?

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On October 30 2010 09:49 Divinek wrote:
On October 30 2010 09:45 Infundibulum wrote:
Also anybody running on the platform of "I will roleclaim if I am Mayor" needs to reconsider their platform in light of the fact that the mayor can be rolechecked.

Additionally, Artanis alluded to the possible existence of elements that can tamper with role check results - e.g. a framer or insane DT - meaning that a rolecheck on the mayor night 1 is possibly useless, as any rolecheck-tampering would almost certainly be directed the mayors' way.

Finally, remember confirming a players role ability != confirming a players alignment.


i think it's beyond silly to say they can be assuredly confirmed in any way. There is got to be a high chance of having some kind of framer role, and what better choice than a mayor that's trying to say hey guyz i can be verified



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On October 30 2010 09:53 Divinek wrote:
On October 30 2010 09:46 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 30 2010 09:45 Infundibulum wrote:
Also anybody running on the platform of "I will roleclaim if I am Mayor" needs to reconsider their platform in light of the fact that the mayor can be rolechecked.

Additionally, Artanis alluded to the possible existence of elements that can tamper with role check results - e.g. a framer or insane DT - meaning that a rolecheck on the mayor night 1 is possibly useless, as any rolecheck-tampering would almost certainly be directed the mayors' way.

Finally, remember confirming a players role ability != confirming a players alignment.


I can prove my role is what I say it is without having to be rolechecked and if anyone tries to fake a rolecheck on me they'll be incriminated when I prove them otherwise.


I can't fathom any way you can do this that doesn't involve the possibility of you just getting your mafia buddies to help you do whatever it is you say you can do

I dont like the idea of just picking someone for what they say they are able to be or capable of. I'm more inclined to go with someone who has shown they can actually be useful instead of spewing confirmability.

Whatever it is you say you can do to confirm yourself i have no doubt the host put in something to make it possible to compromise the integrity of your claim. It's silly that you could try to be concrete on something so unknown to anyone.

I would rather have someone leading with clearly good intentions and capable of doing something instead of saying well guys i can be confirmed, cause once someone gets elected the spot lights so heavy it's ridiculous anyway



can i also note he's making some of the exact same arguments pandain is making now?


Also wtf these are basically different arguments.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 04 2010 01:26 GMT
#2657
how are they different, he's calling into question my ability to confirm and using it as an excuse to make me look bad as a candidate overall
RIP Aaliyah
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
November 04 2010 01:26 GMT
#2658
His type of detective is easier to fakeclaim than others, since (if he is fakeclaiming), he doesn't have to follow a "check me and tell everyone what I am as proof" kinda thing, I mean as long as people are roleclaiming, he can fake a check on people that have already roleclaimed.

Perhaps we should start thinking about who to lynch (apart from pandain) tomorrow.
lalala
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 04 2010 01:27 GMT
#2659
Page six analysis. Mostly just references to the DrH/Pandain battle, but his large analysis of DrH takes place there. He also strongly defends Aeres (although his alternative is DrH). Semi-relevant quotes:

On November 02 2010 13:05 Coagulation wrote:
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On November 02 2010 13:03 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On November 02 2010 12:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 02 2010 12:47 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On November 02 2010 12:09 Pandain wrote:
oh wtf, im almost at 2000?
screw the part1/2/3/4/5 crud. I'm a do a full blown analysis.

Don't expect me to post for a while :p


I won't lie to you, I probably won't even bother reading it. I already know what it will say.


On November 02 2010 12:14 infinitestory wrote:
On November 02 2010 12:10 L wrote:
On November 02 2010 11:44 infinitestory wrote:
On November 02 2010 11:40 L wrote:
On November 02 2010 11:18 NB wrote:
hmm, i wana have you guys opinion on this: so Node said DCLXVI will die tonight!
we also lost our 1 and only bodyguard!

who should the medic protect night2? mayor or DCLXVI assuming we only have 1 medic?....

Uh, so, that's... a town mediated hit?

Mafia doesn't send in their hits during the day unless they have a dayvig, and if they had a Dayvig, they could just shoot just prior to the vote close to fuck over Node/Medic reactions. So Node's probably not detecting dayvigs.

Did I miss something day 1? I'm pretty sure I did.

At the very end of Night 1, Node claimed that he knew BrownBear was going to die. He then claimed that his role was "oracle," which allowed him to see at the beginning of each day one player who's slated to die that night. DCLXVI is, according to Node, slated to die tonight. Possible connections between Node's role and the +1 part of mafia's 2+1 KP have been brought up. One suggestion in particular says that there's a red with the role of killing one guy randomly each night, and Node gets to find out who that is at the start of the day. The possibility of Node being a red baiting medics has also been brought up.

The +1 makes sense, but that means that mafia would have had to..

hmm.

Node, when did you recieve the two PMs notifying you who's going to die?

Like I said, he claims it's at the beginning of the day each day. He also claims that he received QuickStriker's name at the beginning of Day 1, but QuickStriker was modkilled at the end of Day 1, so he then received BrownBear's name.


I have known this for quite a while, but it just got me thinking:
What do you think the odds are that the mods would change the "oracled" target if that target was modkilled? Idk, it just seems to me that if the player was modkilled, well that's tough shit for the oracle, his power is wasted for the day. Thinking about this, Node actually does seem pretty fishy.

Eye of Suspicion


That's just speculation. Node seems to think there is a predetermined list and that if a player os modkilled a new target is chosen. Or there is a mafia killing role that must decide on a kill ahead of time

(Decide 1 kill in the day + 2 kills at night) and node is aware of the day choice

there are many possibilities here, I don't think we can draw any serious conclusions from. obviously due to the gravity of his roleclaim his posting can not be ignored.


Haha fair enough. I just wanted to put Eye of Suspicion on someone...

I was gonna on Lexpar, but he posted and placated me. It scares me that we haven't heard from Divinek...


so your basically saying that your just trying to accuse people for the sake of accusing people?
really?
thats as anti town as it gets.


Coag attacks jcarlsoniv and comes off overly aggressive



On November 03 2010 04:26 Pandain wrote:
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On October 30 2010 07:21 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 30 2010 07:17 NB wrote:
people are moving too fast, im having a hard time to catch up your conversation T_T

poor excuse, i know your play. you watch the thread very intently while communicating avidly within a scumcircle

why even mention it? feeling guilty about your inactivity or do you just like to clutter up threads for no reason


baseless assumption


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On October 30 2010 07:31 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 30 2010 07:29 Coagulation wrote:
FISHBOWL =FISHBALL Sorry. Wheres This guys circle at?? wouldnt they claim by now??

there are a lot of inactive players right now

calm yourself


What about NB, then?


Pandain defends NB after his inactivity is questioned.

On November 03 2010 04:26 Pandain wrote:
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On October 30 2010 04:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 30 2010 04:14 kitaman27 wrote:
Hey all, sorry I'm late. Just got off my flight from Liquidvania. You wouldn't believe the lines. People must be dying to get out of there (sorry I couldn't resist.)

I haven't decided who to vote for as Mayor yet, but I do have two requests.

First off, I would like to see an additional person claim from this "secret 6 person circle". If it exists, odds are incredibly likely that a mafia member is one of the members. If that's the case, then the mafia already knows the identities of all six members. So what harm is there to come forth to the town identifying yourself?

Secondly, I would like to hear how the Mayor plans to use their first day lynch. Will it be based on the majority opinion of the town, a suspicious set of posts during the first 48 hours, or a power player you are intimidated by? Do you already have an idea of who you want to use it on? In order for a candidate to receive my vote, I require they address this issue.

Good luck all ^_^

not just an additional person, everyone in the circle should claim. mafia doesn't have incentive to kill them for it so it's all good.


NO! BAD! This is a very anti town move. Pms were, and even with 3 of Fishball's member's dying, are one of the greatest things town has right now. Why? Town circle, obviously. Telling everyone to claim just allows mafia to snipe people off, while giving town really no useful info when just one person claiming would have the same result. this is very suscipcious.


Strongly opposed to revealing the members of fish's circle

On November 03 2010 06:55 LunarDestiny wrote:
DrH's reply to Pandain is logical and I don't believe that Pandain is try to twist your word to make you look scum. I think he is misinform about your ability to semi prove that a person is town or mafia (heck. I was confused about your ability before that reply of yours).



LundarDestiny defends Pandain's attack on DrH

On November 04 2010 03:20 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 03:11 DCLXVI wrote:
On November 04 2010 01:23 Pandain wrote:
We need medics to protect dxcvii, he's the only person who we really KNOW is going to get hit. If anyone's in a town circle with medics, make sure to coordinate them so at least one person(prefferably one) is protecting him.


Why are you suddenly trying to protect me? Do you want to draw all the medics to me tonight or do you think trying to save one person is worth risking a few medics?

regarding your situation:
considering the following: everyone has a unique role (since no role has been repeated so far as we know) + node is not lying
=> only 1 medic
=> there are 2 person that could be dead by tonight: Dr.H and You
=> 1 person will die with out medic protection!

so if i understand your post right, you dont care if a medic saving you or not and willing to risk it?


Pandain requests medic on DCLXVI. NB questions why DCLXVI wouldn't want a medic.
(although I also suggested a medic protect DCLXVI later on)






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On November 04 2010 10:26 youngminii wrote:
His type of detective is easier to fakeclaim than others, since (if he is fakeclaiming), he doesn't have to follow a "check me and tell everyone what I am as proof" kinda thing, I mean as long as people are roleclaiming, he can fake a check on people that have already roleclaimed.

Perhaps we should start thinking about who to lynch (apart from pandain) tomorrow.

I'm going with Nemesis.

I doubt InfiniteStory is mafia unless he's really really really really really smart.
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