TL Mafia XXXI - Page 55

On October 12 2010 09:03 infinitestory wrote:
Can someone point me to a good XeliN analysis? I remember reading one but I can't find it, and in light of the large number of votes on XeliN I feel like looking over it again. (BC, I think you did an analysis on XeliN, if you want to draw up the main points against him, that would work too).

There are so many people under fire, it's really tough to put a confident vote, and like I said earlier, I want to check over the analyses and defenses thoroughly. Bold names are those that have not posted a defense, or posted a mostly inadequate (from my perspective) defense.
BloodyC0bbler - defended himself acceptably when I put him under pressure, and started posting actively and giving decent analysis. I will probably move my vote off him in light of this.
SouthRawrea - did post a defense, but I'd like a little more elaboration on why/how he decided to accuse 6 players in one post.
Amber[LighT] - Pretty much dodged the main attack on him, and has been asserting that he never advocated for lynching OpZ.
Crisis_ - has not responded to pressure. Has not voted.
CynanMachae - has disappeared under pressure (in fact, was a pretty major suspect the previous day, but he hasn't posted since last night). Has not voted. EBWOP: has been traveling, but I expect him to resume defending himself.
Xelin - Seems to be a major suspect, although I need to see a comperhensive analysis of him before I'm fully convinced. The fact that he's posted a lot of bare one-liners, though, is odd.
kane]deth[ - Pressured, but responded by calling the analysis "bullshit," defense was inadequate. Has not voted.

On October 12 2010 08:40 ~OpZ~ wrote:

Amber, stop arguing for your death. Post some analysis and I'll pull my vote off of you. Seriously. I will. I'm not being spiteful, I just feel you and Xelin are the most suspicious.

Would you like me to show you how your posting different. Watch this, it's about to blow your mind!
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=&t=c&f=31&u=Amber[LighT]&gb=date

Make sure it filters TL Mafia forum. Click the games with hella frequent posts. Look what Amber is.

HP mafia particularly. You had like 200+ posts that one game!

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Where the hell have you been this game! I quoted damn near every posts. Who have you analyzed. Who have you looked at. My analysis wasn't quick. My words were concise.

Notice how Xelin isn't arguing about dying? Either he just never logs on (possible cuz he disappears randomly), or he is mafia.

On October 12 2010 08:47 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Siniquity, you really need to format your posts better. BC please tell me ONE thing. Why did you vote for Amber?

On October 12 2010 10:04 LSB wrote: Xelin was like "Hey! Lets talk about PMs!" after BB was like "FUUUUUU"

On October 10 2010 13:24 Divinek wrote:
NOOOOO PANDAIN, as much as I hate your fadoodles at least you play this game with heart! I will seek to avenge you my brother

Now lets look at this motherfucker kane, I know there’s not much to look at lol

Flat out giving us his excuse that he’s not gonna contribute much and be inactive, ie ANTI town. An argument could be made for town neutrality but that would require content from him. This is not an original idea btw, he’s literally parroting about 3 other people at this point. I was unsure what 'content' meant at the time, as this is the first time I've ever had anything to do with Mafia, but I've done an analysis of Divinek. I was planning to see what others were doing first and try to add my own.


Guilty conscience? I imagine his mafia buddies yelled at him for that one No I just made a noobie mistake



Time and time I have seen new mafia players try this card out. They are confused, they don’t know what to do, this prevents them from having to put forward any of their own ideas because they know they are quite likely to slip up in ways they haven’t even thought of yet. Newbie town players are quite often FEARLESS, they know they got nothing to hide and they get into this game because they are EXCITED to get those mafia! NOT SCARED, why would you be scared if you were town?

Then he apologizes for not voting blah blah more guilty conscience fuel
This is just false; new players don't just jump in and accuse people. Generally, new players aren't going to go posting suspicions because they actually MIGHT slip up and accuse someone who's completely town and people assume he's a Mafia. Completely new players don't know how different factions do or should act.
I apologized for not voting because I didn't vote? If I was mafia I'm sure my mafia buddies would have told me to vote.


See that bolded word there? Yeah that’s right, OTHERs so if it goes bad (which it did) then he can go WELL I DIDN’T WANNA DO IT, but you guys presented such good arguments I agreed! Not my fault! It’s deflection at the most basic level
Get rid of bm blah everyone already said that. Jumping on xelin too, everyone else did that. I mean this stuff would be fine to do of his own accord, but he’s just repeating everything that’s already been said. This is KEY because he can’t be caught for spewing bullshit because none of it is his own
I agree I was bandwagonning, and it was a bad idea, however I did NOT jump on XeliN; I stated that I thought he just made an accident in jumping with BM.


More I don’t know bullshit, as in don’t expect me to do things, to be useful. Blah blah im sick of your excuses.
I said that because everyone was saying how XeliN is playing in a different manner than previous games, but I was looking at XeliN as if he was a new player.


I love seeing this tactic. He apologizes, then puts up some shit justification and THEN he adds a question to the end of his post, as questions always take up everything you’re thinking about because you immediately try to answer that question and almost seemingly forget what you just read lol, quality double fake of the old flame fanning.
My justification was simply that the analysis of ghrur was sound and reading Misder's posts for myself (which is why I asked) made me suspicious of him


Yuh yuh guys I agree with you don’t get angry with me im doing wut u asked. DIE
I was simply stating my reason for double lynching? I still believe in my reason for it regardless of everyone else backing out

Also as a little tidbit rol almost replaced this dude, look at rols only post in that entire time



Excuse for inactivity followed up by NOTHING.
Excuse was because soon after replacing me I replaced him again and he stopped reading. I actually got the role back several hours before BB announced it

Sorry kane you’re not going to continue coasting by unnoticed. There’s nothing but wifom trying to draw away from if it was because of you on his list that pandain was killed or not, but one thing I do know, you’ve been doing fuck all for us and I have a pretty good idea why. You’re getting my vote, I will avenge you pandain! So the main reasons he's accused is because I've been making too many 'excuses' and 'apologizing' too much, when I've just been apologizing for mess-ups in editing, not voting, and asking a simple question.

On October 12 2010 09:19 infinitestory wrote:

Not enough minerals.

On October 12 2010 10:04 LSB wrote:
Amberlight has this weird idea that I'm actually good. It makes me think he's not mafia, or he'd already off me. (Then again... I did break Callers game)

I'll switch off of him cause my whole, "Bill Murray and Amberlight" combination didn't really work out as I took my vote off of Bill Murray.

I kindof don't like how a) Xelin's role got swept under the rug. And b) Xelin was like "Hey! Lets talk about PMs!" after BB was like "FUUUUUU"

Amber[LighT]: 7
OpZ
infinitestory
Kingjames01
BloodyC0bbler
Bill Murray
SouthRawrea
kane]deth[

Bloodyc0bbler: 2
Bill Murray
XeliN

Southrawrea: 6
Divinek
DoctorHelvetica
meeple
ghrur
CynanMachae
Amber[LighT]

kane]deth[: 5
Divinek
DoctorHelvetica
LSB
CynanMachae
kane]deth[

Bill Murray: 2
NukeTheBunnys
kane]deth[

On October 12 2010 12:45 Bill Murray wrote:
fuck, i messed that up. sorry. i believe he is voting 3 times, though.