Pick Your Power Mafia 2!

On August 21 2010 01:06 Pandain wrote:
Pandain's random list of thoughts/ideas
So, unsure as to what to do I'll spit out every possibility that I think might be possible.
Which of these should we do/not do and why.

1.Claim what we're going to pick (therefore no townies losing their role and becoming vanilla.)
2.Organize it so that numbers don't overlap(would this be cheating?)
3. Make a super amazing plan involving roles that would make a specific person verified/not.(that would be hard...just an idea.)
Thoughts?

On August 21 2010 01:22 DarthThienAn wrote:
lol, BS's list is SFA. That would be lolz.
@your first post: those are all solid roles to pick.
@second post: it's not cheating to organize it so that our numbers overlap, but do we really want to publicly claim our picks? That just makes it easier for mafia to avoid us. Last time, what we did was claim after the draft went through.

On August 21 2010 19:50 Bill Murray wrote:
JeeJee: 1
DTA: 2
rastaban: 3
chaoser:4
LSB: 5
Bill: 6
Hesmyrr: 7
zeks: 8 (unless he changed)
rastaban: 9
Radfield: 10
johnnyspazz: 11
Pandain: 12

citi.zen, vx70GTOJudgexv, SouthRawrea, SiNiquity, ~OpZ~ , Fishball, BrownBear, Divinek

On August 22 2010 04:00 LSB wrote:
If you are concerned about blue sniping, I can PM everyone their roles. That way no mafia will know.

The day vigi can kill me day 1 to verify that I am town.

On August 22 2010 12:20 johnnyspazz wrote:
it's not really forced double lynches everyday. we can just no lynch and have the CV shoot.

On August 23 2010 07:06 Pandain wrote:
#1 Comp Vig
#2 Bad Santa
#3 Prince of Darkness


#4 50% Role Cop, 50% Defensive role(Vet, Meth Man, or Bulletproof. 33% chance of each)
#5 50% Joat......... 50% Defensive role
#6 50% Bullet Bill, 50% Defensive role

#7 50% Role Cop, 50% Defensive role
#8 50% Joat.........50% Defensive role
#9 50% Bullet Bill, 50% Defensive role

#10 25% Role Cop, 25% Defensive role, 50% pro town non essential role(Doctor, Doctor, Alignment Cop, Watcher, Copy Cat, Mason. You choose)
#11 25% Joat, 25% Defensive role, 50% pro town non essential role
#12 25% Bullet Bill, 25% Defensive role, 50% pro town non essential role
#13: 50% Bad santa, 50% doctor.
#14. 50% Bad Santa, 50% doctor
#15. 50% Bad Santa, 50% Copy cat/doctor(25 % each)
#16. 50% bad santa, 50% Copycat/doctor (25 percent each)
#17 50% role cop, 50% other
#18 50% Joat, 50% other
#19 50% Bullet Bill, 50% other
#20 50% tracker, 50% other

The draft as of now.
However, this does lead to tracker being less common. Any other suggestions?

On August 23 2010 11:11 Radfield wrote:



If by "random ass roles" you mean the very non-random percentages i've layed out at each spot, then yes.

#1 Comp Vig
#2 Bad Santa
#3 Prince of Darkness
#4 33/33/33 CV, Bad Santa or PoD
#5 50% Role Cop, 50% Defensive role(Vet, Meth Man, or Bulletproof. 33% chance of each)
#6 50% Joat......... 50% Defensive role
#7 50% Bullet Bill, 50% Defensive role
#8 50% Role Cop, 50% Defensive role
#9 50% Joat.........50% Defensive role
#10 50% Bullet Bill, 50% Defensive role
#11 25% Role Cop, 25% Defensive role, 25% Doctor, 25% role of your choice(not tracker)
#12 25% Joat, 25% Defensive role, 25% Doctor, 25% role of your choice(not tracker)
#13 25% Bullet Bill, 25% Defensive role, 25% Doctor, 25% role of your choice(not tracker)
#14. 50% Tracker, 25% doctor, 25% Copy Cat(recommended) or Other(Alignment Cop, Mason, Martyr, etc.)
#15. 50% Tracker, 25% doctor, 25% Copy Cat(recommended) or Other
#16. 50% Tracker, 25% doctor, 25% Copy Cat(recommended) or Other
#17 50% role cop, 50% other
#18 50% Joat, 50% other
#19 50% Bullet Bill, 50% other
#20 50% tracker, 50% other

On August 25 2010 23:58 SouthRawrea wrote:
Well shit. I would like to announce that at least 2 people did not follow along with the plan made for role picking.

On August 26 2010 10:07 BrownBear wrote:


To be fair, he was not town, he was ninja (3rd party role). He was just playing more town-aligned.

On August 26 2010 11:41 Divinek wrote:


if you read the thread!

it says that after majority is hit, twilight will take up the remainder of the day so i guess you'd just have to cast a meaningless vote, which is kinda silly and doesnt make you look very good but i suppose that's what would go down

i imagine people will do their best to hold off on majority so meaningful discussion can continue for as long as possible about the lynch candidates etc

On August 28 2010 10:25 Radfield wrote:


Still a chance you're the traitor and they hit you last night

On August 28 2010 16:53 DarthThienAn wrote:
Hmm.

Let's assume zeks is traitor and was recruited by a mafia night action. Assuming no one counterclaims taking a hit later today, mafia targeted him with their night kill - like someone said, win/win in regard to zeks being #5 and possible traitor.

What are the advantages of him coming forward about being hit? Well, it buys him credibility (posting almost immediately), and it's a pro-town thing to claim after being hit by mafia (it was obviously a mafia hit, unless, again, a counterclaim later today).

What are the disadvantages? People know he took a hit, and therefore, he's thrust into the spotlight. Why would he claim if he could've just slipped by while the town raged about someone not coming forward? Stay in the shadows, etc. To me, it makes a lot more sense for him not to say anything, and to stay under the radar and all that. So I really doubt that he's the traitor.

Another thing I'd like to point out is that mafia most likely don't have roleblocker - zeks would've claimed "roleblocked" as well if that was the case, correct? It makes the most sense for mafia to roleblock + night hit the same person, just in case of bulletproof. Especially with only 1 KP, it makes missing a hit/failing a hit extremely costly for them. This is assuming that zeks isn't a traitor lying to us of course.

On August 29 2010 04:44 LSB wrote:

Okay, so the Mafia already knows your role.
Why aren't you telling us?

Are you worried the Mafia is going to fake claim? If that happens, we can easily kill the Mafia.
Are you hiding something?

On August 24 2010 08:16 Radfield wrote:
Citi.zen's Post+ Show Spoiler +


First off, something we need to be very careful of: If we follow this plan, no one can reveal if they got, or did not get the role they went for. DO NOT STATE IF YOU GET YOUR ROLE OR NOT. Posting that you are vanilla gives the mafia the information they need to hunt down our powerful investigative roles. It's very important that everyone's role, or lack of a role, is kept hidden, at least for the first part of the game.

Citizen, remember that by leaving those roles(Pardoner, Floridian, RB, GF) for the mafia, we also gain another powerful investigative role in the rolecop. Which takes us from BB and tracker, to BB, tracker and rolecop. So I think it turns out fairly neutral both ways; If they choose to go after the more powerful roles, then we also get a more powerful rolecop.

Again, no one should be claiming what they did or did not get in the thread. The exception to this would be if you were pick 5 and went for rolecop (or pick6 and joat, or pick7 and Bullet Bill) and the role was already taken. Since you are the first person available to take that role(according to the plan), it means a mafia must be in front of you, and swiped the role.





I was SK that game, and my plan was to play extremely pro-town, which I did with stunning success. So much success, that the mafia Day-Vigged me. So if you're trying to say I seem extremely pro-town, then thanks But you raise a good point, at no time can anyone be confirmed to be non-SK solely through their actions. The SK should look like a townie, because it's in the SK's best interest to kill off the mafia.

Also, If you truly think I'm the Serial Killer, you would try to keep me around, not try to kill me off. I made cases against and lynched a mafia on both Day 1 and Day 2 in PYP1, as well as soaking up a hit from the mafia.

At pick #16 I don't need medic protection. Honestly, chances are I'll end up vanilla, which means it's my job to take hits. If I last past night 2, then we can start burning up investigative night actions on me.


It's far too early to be trying to place night actions anyways. We still have 48hours before day 1 ends, and 72 hours before those night actions need to be in place. Plenty of time to scum hunt.

On August 29 2010 12:30 DarthThienAn wrote:

? At the time of your post, it didn't make sense for you to claim like you did. Especially since you were trying to clear zeks as an innocent, when he's either SK or traitor. You watched zeks and saw 4 people visit him. You assumed it was mafia, doctor, role cop, and some other role, when it was just mafia (Ace hadn't clarified at the time). So what did you accomplish? Aside from outting yourself, all you said was, "zeks was visited by 4 people." What happened as a result of that is great, but it's not something you had planned, and so from that perspective, the claim wasn't effective.

@zeks:

1. How did scum know you were role cop? I guess if you're assuming that Subversion went for role cop. When he could've just as easily gone for any of the top 3 picks, any other role, or not picked at all.
2. Well, I mean, if you're not traitor and SR isn't lying, it's pretty obvious that the traitor is 2 or 3. I too think LSB is more likely traitor though.
3. Let's say you're role cop. Mafia hit you. You survived. How? Explain this to me ^^, Mr. SK/Traitor.
4a. You consider yourself more a threat to the scum... why? Aside from potentially killing one of them (which didn't happen last PYP I don't think, so congrats on your hit), the SK helps the mafia by bringing the town numbers down quicker, doesn't he? So why would scum want to get rid of you?
b. It's all a conspiracy ^^.

1. Its all likelihood - he won't go for the top 3 picks because 1. the plan and likeliness of a top 3 pick passed down to him at #7. It should be agreed that getting a role is better than not getting a role. Most simple answer is usually the answer.
2. Glad you agree.
3. I got protected by a JOAT/medic. If you ask why only 4 people were tracked to me (4 mafia?) I would tell you bum lied.
4a. Not myself, I consider the SK a threat because the SK made a good hit so I guess the SK must be thinking pro-town right now thus scum would want to get rid of the SK asap. The SK can be your best friend or your worst enemy.
b. I think it has been agreed by most that role cop is one of the top town roles to get early - seeing as the finalized list having role cop as early as #5.


So let me get this straight: you're claiming Town Role Cop?