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I hope one was a rolecop, as that would clear things up. | ||
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On August 29 2010 02:43 SiNiquity wrote: So bum watches zeks, 4 people (presumably all mafia) visit zeks in the night (i.e. target to kill). Is this number the pre- or post-SK kill? Depending on the answer there's either 4 or 3 mafia members remaining (5 or 4 if zeks was recruited). I think that is wrong. I think a watcher would only see 1 person visit if only the mafia targeted him. Ace, care to confirm? | ||
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Bumatlarge is one of the people who targeted him I would guess(Are you able to confirm that Ace? Whether or not the watcher is included in the number) If that's the case, then a doctor or 2, and the mafia or mafia +roleblocker visited zeks last night. Outside shot that a doctor, mafia and rolecop visited. | ||
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Which is resolved first, mafia dying, or mafia killing? | ||
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On August 29 2010 03:04 ~OpZ~ wrote: Well time for Zeks to role claim. xD He's either BP, or Vet. Yup, because there are very likely 4 mafia to start, which means no medic visited zeks last night. The watcher role actually comes in handy! I wouldn't have though it possible  I can't believe picks 5 and 6 might have both picked traitor.... so sad. I have a feeling we have very few investigative roles. | ||
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On August 29 2010 03:10 ~OpZ~ wrote: If you don't mind, Radfield. Sir, I would like your opinion also. Yeah, I'm not 100% sure what you're asking me. Going through 7 games is a bit daunting, especially without the 'All' function. However, I'll certainly take your word that he's posting more than normal. As far as my opinion on his play this game, he was basically off my radar until your post. I didn't have him down as scummy, nor as pro-town. I had looked through his posts once before, but had mostly skim read them. Looking through his posts again though changes my mind slightly. He has posted content, but also a lot of small one-two liners. His content also mainly consists of talk about the traitor, or other minor theorycrafting/questioning. His large posts focus on the traitor scenario(laying out options), the CompVig(clarifying why hesmyrr picked CV), a vote on Hesmyrr, another post about the traitor. He hasn't seriously fingered anyone as scummy, in fact has gone out of his way not to. He also hasn't really contributed anything as far as opinions or specific thoughts. My read on him is certainly more scummy than before. Enough to recommend investigation, but not yet a lynch. What are your thoughts? | ||
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On August 29 2010 03:23 citi.zen wrote: Is the watcher included in the count of 4 people they see during the night, or is it 4 people excluding the watcher? Also, does a role take precedence over the mafia hit from the watcher's perspective? Ex: is a mafia doctor protects someone other than Zeks, would that medic not be counted in as a visitor to Zeks? From what Ace stated above. No the watcher is not included in the number, and ALL mafia are included in the hit. By the way, thanks for the prompt responses Ace. | ||
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On August 29 2010 03:20 Pandain wrote: Speaking of which, I feel like it's time to say something. This either gives town more information, or more importantly leaves scum unsure who is who. I did not pick mason, even though I did originally. I changed it n.n That's great news, and a good move whether you are lying or not. I would say this actually gives both town and mafia less information and also means you may have a role instead of being vanilla. It also means you're more likely to draw a hit, given that if you followed the plan you have a decent shot at Bullet Bill/Alignment Cop/Medic. | ||
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If someone gets killed on your list and you have the option to take a shot, you should inform the town. It may be advantageous to use your shot if there is someone particularly scummy on that list, but we would need to discuss it as a town. Once two people on your list are NKed, I think you should inform the town. Not sure of this, but the idea would be to somewhat clear peoples names. If the Serial Killer is killed, then you should reveal your list as soon as someone on it is NKed, because if you are not given the option to kill, it means that everyone else on your list is not mafia. Does that make sense? Likewise, if all the mafia are killed, and someone on your list is NKed, you should reveal your list. Once again because anyone on your list would not be the SK. There may be other scenarios here as well, so use your judgement. But remember, never ever take the shot without consulting town, as firing on your own and missing might lead to us lynching you, thus royally screwing ourselves over. | ||
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Citizen, I'm interested to hear your thoughts. Anyone seem particularly pro- or anti- town. If you had to make a list of people to be investigated, who would be on it? Also, can someone please comment on the case I made for Zeks being traitor. | ||
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On August 29 2010 04:41 zeks wrote: Radfield: I went with the 33/33/33 role cop / copy cat / defensive role because there was mention that copycat should be picked earlier. I truthfully randomed my role. Something that I've discovered SR #6 below me is assumed vanilla town, Subversion at #7 was vanilla mafia Which means Subversion could've overlaped with 1. rastaban CV 2. chaoser Bad Santa/traitor 3. LSB PoD/traitor 5. me RC/CC/Defensive role/traitor Likelihood of Subversion picking CV next to nothing Bad Santa or PoD Don't see why Subversion will pick those either. Traitor: He's scum so he wouldn't pick traitor. me: RC/CC/Defensive Role Subversion likely overlapped with me and since Subversion is dead then it is likely that scum would know what my role is... Unless Subversion overlapped with SouthRawrea, then that means South never picked traitor in the beginning - which doesn't make sense because South would be a townie with a role but lied about being a traitor Thus conclusion: mafia knows my role and wants me dead by lynch since they couldn't finish the job last night Which is why I'm not claiming because they will call me out on it. Please roleclaim ASAP. Subversion came in late and claimed he did not read the plan. This could be BS, but either way there is a decent chance he chose PoD or BadSanta. Please roleclaim | ||
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Thus conclusion: mafia knows my role and wants me dead by lynch since they couldn't finish the job last night Which is why I'm not claiming because they will call me out on it. If this is true, they will have to sacrifice a mafia in a one for one trade. We'll lynch you tonight, and cv the other person overnight. Major win for the town. If this is what you're worried about, fear not, because it benefits us. Also, you've soft claimed rolecop already, so I'm asking you to hard claim it. Also, who did you investigate night one. You HAVE to claim at this point, or we will lynch you for not claiming, surely you see this. | ||
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On August 29 2010 05:01 Radfield wrote: If this is true, they will have to sacrifice a mafia in a one for one trade. We'll lynch you tonight, and cv the other person overnight. Major win for the town. If this is what you're worried about, fear not, because it benefits us. Also, you've soft claimed rolecop already, so I'm asking you to hard claim it. Also, who did you investigate night one. You HAVE to claim at this point, or we will lynch you for not claiming, surely you see this. Oh yeah, if anyone but fishball claims they are the rolecop, I would probably take your claim over theirs. | ||
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Defend yourself zeks I recommend you claim a defensive role. | ||
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You have no chance to survive make your time ##Vote Zeks | ||
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On August 29 2010 05:39 zeks wrote: Fine. I'm role cop. I checked Fishball - I don't want to reveal what he is as now we're practically in a mass roleclaim mode and it would not benefit the town to know what he is: however I will tell you that he did not follow the town's plan either. I have no idea how bumatlarge got only 4 people from his watch, because I'm not the SK and I lived - to my surprise so someone must've protected me. I know I'm going to die today as now I fit the perfect profiling of an SK - but please evaluate why LSB was so sure I was role cop - not to mention now only 2 suspects are remaining for the traitor and he is one of them. Radfields push for my lynch and wanting to know who I rolecheck I also find a little bit suspicious. I apologize for my poor play and allowing scum to corner me this easily. If I go down today I blame no one but myself. It's possible I may blame myself a bit if you don't mind "I have no idea how bumatlarge got only 4 people from his watch, because I'm not the SK and I lived - to my surprise so someone must've protected me." Don't worry, Ace probably messed it up  For what it's worth, I still think you're the traitor, but the SK would be oh so nice. Maybe I'm seeing things through rose-colored glasses here. Can anyone lay out an argument how zeks is not an anti-town player? | ||
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