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On August 23 2010 15:43 Bill Murray wrote:
I'm also going to be voting you this entire game until you die.
Add dk and me to the list then. Terrible plan + relatively high number for yourself? I had no problem leaving my number [6][1] unchanged and "taking one for the team" to make sure you were @ the bottom. Worst part is, the plan was so bad and your self-interest so well represented (anyone else steals my # and I'm going to lynch them!) that 3 people thought it worthwhile to sacrifice their pick to bring you to the bottom. 
So bury the hatchet before you bury yourself with it.
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Orrr just repick like everyone else did who's number changed? dk's repicking, I repicked, etc.
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Not repicking means your role is not confirmed when it should be. We need CV, Santa, and PoD to be confirmed roles. That's why there's the safeguard at #4 - so that Mafia cannot slip it by us.
Rastaban should be picking CV
chaoser should be picked Bad Santa
LSB should be picking PoD
Hesmyrr should be RNG'ing CV/Santa/PoD
Do not deviate from this; it would throw the whole plan into disarray.
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How much time does the pardoner to pardon the victim before it's too late?
Also damnit Ace, your mood is contagious 
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EBWOP
On August 24 2010 09:54 SiNiquity wrote:How much time does the pardoner have to pardon the victim before it's too late? Also damnit Ace, your mood is contagious
See? 
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On August 23 2010 11:11 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2010 11:07 Divinek wrote:
so according to your plan radfield do us guys down here just try to take random ass roles and hope for the best? If by "random ass roles" you mean the very non-random percentages i've layed out at each spot, then yes. #1 Comp Vig #2 Bad Santa #3 Prince of Darkness #4 33/33/33 CV, Bad Santa or PoD #5 50% Role Cop, 50% Defensive role(Vet, Meth Man, or Bulletproof. 33% chance of each) #6 50% Joat......... 50% Defensive role #7 50% Bullet Bill, 50% Defensive role #8 50% Role Cop, 50% Defensive role #9 50% Joat.........50% Defensive role #10 50% Bullet Bill, 50% Defensive role #11 25% Role Cop, 25% Defensive role, 25% Doctor, 25% role of your choice(not tracker) #12 25% Joat, 25% Defensive role, 25% Doctor, 25% role of your choice(not tracker) #13 25% Bullet Bill, 25% Defensive role, 25% Doctor, 25% role of your choice(not tracker) #14. 50% Tracker, 25% doctor, 25% Copy Cat(recommended) or Other(Alignment Cop, Mason, Martyr, etc.) #15. 50% Tracker, 25% doctor, 25% Copy Cat(recommended) or Other #16. 50% Tracker, 25% doctor, 25% Copy Cat(recommended) or Other #17 50% role cop, 50% other #18 50% Joat, 50% other #19 50% Bullet Bill, 50% other #20 50% tracker, 50% other
Everyone double check the list at the top of the page. Make sure your # matches your action!
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I share your unease to some degree (this would be so much more awesome if the draft list had been anonymous like I thought it was originally), but powerful roles will tend to be towards the top anyway.
That being said, currently roles are definitely very "pigeon-holed" (i.g. Bullet Bill is 7, 10, 13, or 19). What if we changed it to:
#5 50% [Role Cop/Joat/BB 33% each], 50% Defensive role(Vet, Meth Man, or Bulletproof. 33% chance of each)
#6 50% [Role Cop/Joat/BB 33% each] 50% Defensive role
#7 50% [Role Cop/Joat/BB 33% each], 50% Defensive role
#8 50% [Role Cop/Joat/BB 33% each], 50% Defensive role
#9 50% [Role Cop/Joat/BB 33% each].........50% Defensive role
#10 50% [Role Cop/Joat/BB 33% each], 50% Defensive role
(spreading out the possibilities while maintaining the expected result).
We could also spread out tracker (maybe to incorporate 11-13). Thoughts?
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On a related note, when's the deadline for this phase?
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I figured there must've been some time added - people on the west coast would get shafted by this (getting home around 6 PST = 9 EST = deadline) and wouldn't see the changes made until it was too late.
But I suppose it's up to Ace in the end.
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On August 24 2010 11:41 citi.zen wrote:
Actually, the copy-cat issue could be handled through our day 1 lynch I guess.
So long as a non-vanilla gets lynched, otherwise it is actually a pretty serious concern that I hadn't considered.
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On August 24 2010 12:03 SiNiquity wrote:
I figured there must've been some time added - people on the west coast would get shafted by this (getting home around 6 PST = 9 EST = deadline) and wouldn't see the changes made until it was too late.
But I suppose it's up to Ace in the end.
Bloops, 10pm EST is deadline not 9 EST. Still close, but not as close as I thought.
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FYI, Citizen's post on this page was just to inform me of the draft deadline. That quote contains the old/incorrect draft order. The final draft order:
On August 24 2010 07:49 Ace wrote:Ok this should be it.
- rastaban
- chaoser
- LSB
- Hesmyrr
- zeks
- SouthRawrea
- jspazz
- Fishball
- ~Opz~
- citi.zen
- BrownBear
- JeeJee
- DarthThienAn
- siNiquity
- Divinek
- Radfield
- Bill Murray
- bumatlarge
- Pandain
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Agreed, put him in dungeon #20.
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On August 24 2010 12:17 Bill Murray wrote:
wait, when i voted, i thought my pick was higher than it was. i thought i was picking 15.
Exactly what I'm talking about. Ace, please extend the deadline.
I'm going to bed. I don't foresee this getting resolved tonight.
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On August 25 2010 19:39 zeks wrote:
the CV lynch is safe now for tonight since CC has copied mason
was kind of surprised that dayvig trickled all the way down to the #15 pick - leads me to think most of the people above were gunning for the good roles
Awesome. My biggest concern is that the dayvig was going to do something like that 'cept aim at the CV.
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lol a traitor in the top 5? and 2 people went for it? Geez lol.
Role claims:
- Rastaban: Compulsive Vigilante
- Chaoser:
On August 25 2010 11:38 chaoser wrote:
sooo, i got my role...
- LSB: Prince of Darkness
- Hesmyrr: Vanilla (Compulsive Vigilante)
- Zeks: ---
- SouthRawrea: Vanilla (Traitor)
Assumptions:
- SouthRawrea is telling the truth
So there's a traitor in the range of (1-5), and with no dead giveaway it's up to random chance. There's a couple of ways to go about this. One way is based on impact to town (assuming the roleclaims are true):
- LSB: Nothing to lose, deny a strong mafia role (it's a one-time shot, so sooner = better to deny the role).
- Chaoser: Nothing to lose, deny a strong mafia role (takes effect over time, but extremely dangerous - put 1 Mafia, 4 townies on the list).
- Hesmyrr: Nothing to lose (Vanilla)
- Rastaban: Lose CV. Good for town late game, not so much early game.
- Zeks: Potential investigative / defensive role.
The other is based on likelihood. That is, running under the assumption that everyone was following the plan, who could "slide under the radar" the best?
- Zeks Excellent cover
- Hesmyrr: Excellent cover
- Chaoser: Bad cover (33% chance it would get blown IMMEDIATELY)
- LSB: Bad cover (same as above)
- Rastaban: Bad cover. Additionally, as it currently stands, for Rastaban to be traitor, either Hesmyrr is lying about choosing CV or #2 / #3 chose CV. This scenario seems so unlikely that Rastaban is almost certainly not the traitor.
That being said, Hesmyrr seems like the logical choice to lynch. However, given the majority lynch rule, I'm withholding my vote until tomorrow.
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No. You won't get mod-killed if you don't vote before it hits majority.
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Someone mentioned we could use role cop to check Zeks. How does said role cop exonerate Zeks without giving himself away?
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## Vote Hesmyrr
There's 3 possibilities as I see it:
- Vanilla: Hesmyrr did exactly what he was told and paid for it with his life
- Traitor: Makes sense from a pre-game perspective. To take a useless role which will probably end up as Vanilla, or go with something a little more.. exciting?
- Mafia/SK: Not entirely impossible - it's a high number with a useless role in our list of assignments (expected to be Vanilla), so unlikely to get checked.
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There's also a 4th possibility:
Some Alternative Role: Didn't do what he was told and got some other role. Since he's claimed otherwise, I view this as most unlikely
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