Game by flamewheel should be good, even if I don't know the exact details yet
I'm going to try to be more calm and analytical this game rather than jumping for tiny details lol
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Game by flamewheel should be good, even if I don't know the exact details yet I'm going to try to be more calm and analytical this game rather than jumping for tiny details lol | ||
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On July 31 2010 00:54 citi.zen wrote: Show nested quote + On July 31 2010 00:49 Qatol wrote: On July 30 2010 04:48 BloodyC0bbler wrote: On July 30 2010 04:21 Qatol wrote: Bus driver cannot bus himself, yes? The role is more interesting if they can't roleclaim and have immunity to night hits. Stop trying to fix the bus breaker strategy Never! Also, will the Ninjas know how many other ninjas are in the game? Show nested quote + You will know how many other Ninjas reside within the town, but the town will not. Why do I have the feeling Flamewheels going to like make us all ninjas. | ||
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On August 03 2010 09:34 Divinek wrote: oh god damn it i didnt notice pandain signed up for this one too That mean something? Hehe | ||
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Has he even spoken yet? Will be compiling a list of his posts as evidence. Seriously though, is this the time when like all you pros be like "Hey, noobie noob noobs, some general advice." And then if someone gives bad advice, we can watch him. Or advice fitting his needs. Some general things I think I now: 1. Don't pm people your role (duh) that's about it. | ||
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Doesn't mean I neccesarily think they're mafia, but at the very least like youngmini said above me it will pressure everyone to talk or be suspected. More talking=more information for us which =better for town. | ||
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On August 06 2010 09:24 BrownBear wrote: I like this idea, but I think we should wait at least a few more hours or so. Right now, there's essentially only 4 of us posting (and I'm posting from work lol) Yeah that's why I'm not voting yet n.n. So people, start talking! | ||
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On August 06 2010 09:43 Bill Murray wrote: in all likelihood the scummy players haven't posted yet unless it's someone like brownbear who knows it's ok to. noob scum will be like "what should i say?" as opposed to just playing. agreed. Probably deciding who's GF, making forum or IRC chat, or just plotting in general. PLOTTING I SAY!!!!!!!! Still, even if I get mafia vibes off LSB(which I do) I highly urge everyone not to vote for him. Right now we have a suspect, and it would be best to not vote him as of yet. Maybe day 2, when we have more evidence. But I still feel we should be getting the inactives to talk | ||
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On August 06 2010 10:30 Divinek wrote: Show nested quote + On August 06 2010 10:27 youngminii wrote: On August 06 2010 10:22 Divinek wrote: On August 06 2010 10:18 KF91 wrote: Alright, reporting in for attendance XD First days are hard to do anything in, but as with what LSB said, it's always good to target the inactives rather than targeting blindly on Day 1. yay lets go through the same discussion we do at the start of every game! im just waiting for the day that we actually lynch an inactive person day 1 that turns out to be mafia, ie never That's because a lurking mafia will come out of his lurk if he sees himself being voted. Hence he's not inactive anymore, hence impossible to catch mafia by lynching inactives (unless you use it to judge reactions etc.) ya i still like lynching inactives even if they turn out to be town cause the less misders we have in this game the better. Having an inactive POS townie is almost worse as the game goes on because then you have to suspect them ENTIRELY based on the fact they havent been posting which isnt much at all. At a point when you have information about other people that could actually be useful. anyways im voting for pandain, though i doubt he'll get lynched cause he posts like a 14 year old girl and people on the internet love them Lol... I can tell you're voting for me because of an underlying suspicion because you just said in that post you like to lynch inactives and yet I'm probably the least inactive here. So, my question is, what's your suspicion. | ||
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On August 06 2010 10:44 Divinek wrote: my want for lynching pandain supersedes all wants to lynch inactives O God, I have a Tricode on my hands | ||
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On August 06 2010 11:06 flamewheel wrote: That story is fucking terrible. It would be good, if the whole mafia thing wasn't a teacher strike thing. hahaha | ||
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On August 06 2010 12:03 Bill Murray wrote: I proclaim the Random Voting Stage hereby dead. I am voting not for randomness, but because I actually believe Divinek is Mafia. Far too early to vote for someone because you think their mafia. Far too early, you have like what? 2 lines and a boatload of assumptions. You have no facts, no voting patterns, no motives, no big posts yet. A vote like this should not be made yet. I highly urge you to note vote Divinek based on this reasoning. I still believe we should be pressuring every inactive person by threatening to lynch an inactive person. right now, it is the easiest way for mafia to slither through. Make a vote, spread them all out, without making really much a post then and there. By threatening to vote inactives, we get EVERYONE talking, and with that we have the beginnings of real hard evidence, not silly suspicions. | ||
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On August 06 2010 12:25 Bill Murray wrote: Pandain is #2 on my suspect list behind Divinek due to PM-land Says the guy trying to get me to reveal my role. | ||
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On August 06 2010 13:07 Foolishness wrote: Show nested quote + On August 06 2010 12:53 Pandain wrote: On August 06 2010 12:25 Bill Murray wrote: Pandain is #2 on my suspect list behind Divinek due to PM-land Says the guy trying to get me to reveal my role. I think we should seriously take a look at this brodooski...he's yet to make any real contribution, despite an overflowing of posts. He got pretty defensive when divinek voted for him, which isn't fool proof I know, but it's definitely something to take note of. Bill Murray, I may not have any idea how you're playing these days, but I'd totally support you against this brodooski. Didn't really get defensive, just pointed out that he voted for me when he said we should lynch inactives, yet I've been one of the most active people. Just asked him what his real reason is. Not really defensive. And yes, sadly I have been less quality than normal. I'm trying to fix it this game by typing larger things and not just one liners. Though I did feel the one you quoted was justified. Still, need to improve. On August 06 2010 12:06 Pandain wrote: Show nested quote + On August 06 2010 12:03 Bill Murray wrote: I proclaim the Random Voting Stage hereby dead. I am voting not for randomness, but because I actually believe Divinek is Mafia. Far too early to vote for someone because you think their mafia. Far too early, you have like what? 2 lines and a boatload of assumptions. You have no facts, no voting patterns, no motives, no big posts yet. A vote like this should not be made yet. I highly urge you to note vote Divinek based on this reasoning. I still believe we should be pressuring every inactive person by threatening to lynch an inactive person. right now, it is the easiest way for mafia to slither through. Make a vote, spread them all out, without making really much a post then and there. By threatening to vote inactives, we get EVERYONE talking, and with that we have the beginnings of real hard evidence, not silly suspicions. This is the type of post I'm aiming for. Don't feel like I should be voted just because I'm not that good yet(second game.) Getting better, but as of yet do not feel I have the expierence to make the definitive "ok guys, this is what you should do." That's why I think the very first post after Flamewheel said "gogogo" I said, "ok pros, give advice now." | ||
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On August 06 2010 13:17 youngminii wrote: Show nested quote + On August 06 2010 13:16 Divinek wrote: On August 06 2010 13:14 youngminii wrote: On August 06 2010 13:07 Foolishness wrote: On August 06 2010 12:53 Pandain wrote: On August 06 2010 12:25 Bill Murray wrote: Pandain is #2 on my suspect list behind Divinek due to PM-land Says the guy trying to get me to reveal my role. I think we should seriously take a look at this brodooski...he's yet to make any real contribution, despite an overflowing of posts. He got pretty defensive when divinek voted for him, which isn't fool proof I know, but it's definitely something to take note of. Bill Murray, I may not have any idea how you're playing these days, but I'd totally support you against this brodooski. Naw Pandain played like this last game. I thought it was scummy too and that evidence was supported by a freaking DT check but he ended up flipping miller. I mean I was so sure he was scum... but that makes you wonder what he'd give off if he was actually scum doesnt it I don't think he'd be too much of a threat if he was scum (no offense Pandain) and I dunno it would be his first time as scum wouldn't it? He'd drop scumtells all over the place imo. Its True Note: Kill Youngmini Tonight. | ||
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On August 06 2010 13:25 Foolishness wrote: Show nested quote + On August 06 2010 13:21 Pandain wrote: On August 06 2010 13:17 youngminii wrote: On August 06 2010 13:16 Divinek wrote: On August 06 2010 13:14 youngminii wrote: On August 06 2010 13:07 Foolishness wrote: On August 06 2010 12:53 Pandain wrote: On August 06 2010 12:25 Bill Murray wrote: Pandain is #2 on my suspect list behind Divinek due to PM-land Says the guy trying to get me to reveal my role. I think we should seriously take a look at this brodooski...he's yet to make any real contribution, despite an overflowing of posts. He got pretty defensive when divinek voted for him, which isn't fool proof I know, but it's definitely something to take note of. Bill Murray, I may not have any idea how you're playing these days, but I'd totally support you against this brodooski. Naw Pandain played like this last game. I thought it was scummy too and that evidence was supported by a freaking DT check but he ended up flipping miller. I mean I was so sure he was scum... but that makes you wonder what he'd give off if he was actually scum doesnt it I don't think he'd be too much of a threat if he was scum (no offense Pandain) and I dunno it would be his first time as scum wouldn't it? He'd drop scumtells all over the place imo. Its True Note: Kill Youngmini Tonight. Why wait until tonight when we got a lynch today? Hehe......... Anyway, on the theme of being more useful and going along with my plan of getting all inactives to talk or be lynched, here's the list of people who haven't talked yet. Obviously this does not mean their mafia, not even close. This game has only been going for a couple hours and RL stuff can obviously be interfering or the such. Stilll, this kind of stuff is useful to keep track of. 1.Chezinu 2.Pyrrhuloxia(talked once) 3.Xelin 4.Jayme 5.Roffles 6.Hesmyrr 7.Infunblahblah 8.Laan Not sure(and hard to find profile thing) 1.Love1another 2.larjarse If you have posted, please say so and quote your post. So then this can be as accurate as possible. With that, everyone here start talking! | ||
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On August 06 2010 14:54 Jayme wrote: I still hate voting for inactives on day one because it's so pointless. and the random voting stage is already over after only a few hours...???? Oh incoming bandwagon 1.Gets people talking(more info) 2.Force potential lurkers/mafia trying to hide to talk more, reveal stuff. 3.(going along with #1) Encourages people to talk and share opinions Compared with random lynching, in which case we have a 1/5 chance of hitting mafia 4/5 chance of NOT Depending on # of Ninjas (someone said 3? I'll go with that) than 1/10 chance of hitting ninja and more of a chance of hitting a blue than a red(on the assumption theres at least one blue of every role.) On August 06 2010 14:57 larjarse wrote: I would say BillMurray's concern about not being randomly voted to be killed justifies that he probably isn't a Townie. Yeah, because its a just cause to accuse someone of being mafia because they have 2 votes out of 30. Not that he's neccesarily innocent, but as of now we should lynch an inactive for the reasons I stated above. | ||
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On August 06 2010 23:34 rastaban wrote: the other option is that if we have a counter claim we protect neither and have them both shoot each other, the vig dies taking out a red. I almost like this plan method better. Bad idea, mafia will just roleblock the real vigi since they will know. And then that Vigi can claim he killed other vigi. | ||
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1.ahahahahahahah Chezinu <3 2.I highly urge everyone to vote the least active person here. that means the person who has not made a real quality contribution. I'm looking at you, love1another. One line saying "im townie! Don't kill me!" Is not enough to warrant us getting off your back. I am going to vote for said person 10 hours before deadline and I encourage everyone to help get people talking. 2.Vigi plan sounds...okay. I mean, like I said above there are some flaws. But I think we can work on it and make it work. | ||
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On August 07 2010 02:24 rastaban wrote: Infunblahblah Its Infundibulum. | ||
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On August 07 2010 03:24 rastaban wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 03:17 SouthRawrea wrote: Actually that is incorrect. I had a post at the very start. Hey you are right but the day post wasn't even up yet so it doesn't count. Doesn't matter, the point is if you haven't made a quality post which summarizes your opinions with evidence and is at least 3 lines long, then you haven't really been active. And sadly South, that means you are, according to my definition, inactive. | ||
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On August 07 2010 05:34 SouthRawrea wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 05:26 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: On August 07 2010 05:05 SouthRawrea wrote: I keep deleting what I type lol because I think what if Pyrrhusloxia is really a ninja, we should get him lynched so our future Town-sided ninja doesn't waste a kill. Then I think oh shit what if he's a veteran trying to get cleared for tomorrow. Then I think what if he's a red role. Then I read the day post and wonder. WTF is a bus driver ninja and does it count in the number of ninjas? If it does and Pyrr's leak was real, he should be removed from the game which he is not. So... he's lying or the bus driver ninja doesn't count/ isn't real. Time for PMing questions to flamewheel. I've noticed Divinek talking about how the Ninja would be breaking rules and ruining the game and would be removed from the game if he teamed up with town. I've also now noticed you talking about how if I merely posted the number of ninjas in the thread correctly I should be removed from the game. There's nothing about this in the rules description for Ninja as far as I can tell. Perhaps you two got some stern words from flamewheel in the role pm? You mis-read my post. WHEN THE NINJA WINS HE IS REMOVED FROM THE GAME. THUS IF BUS DRIVER NINJA AND VER OR W.E WERE REALLY NINJAS YOU'D BE GONE CUZ U'D HAVE WON. lol. Please keep in mind that I didn't understand that the day 1 post was a joke at the time i wrote this. its not a joke... Anyway, I don't really think we need to worry about the Ninjas right now. I mean, as of right now it's not like anyone knows who the Ninjas are and until at least after this night, the Ninja's WONT talk to anyone because they don't know whether someone is a ninja or not. | ||
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On August 07 2010 06:07 SouthRawrea wrote: Err it was just for the story so.. kinda like a joke. None of those people were actually in the game. I also mentioned that this was a plan for later as we have none as of now. The people aren't in it, but the roles are still there. Why do you think flamewheel the "godfather" was killed. Is godfather made up too? :p. | ||
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On August 07 2010 07:34 VayeshMoru wrote: Chronicle #1 – The Despairing ones. All was quiet. All was right. That is when everything changed. In a brilliant flash of lights we all awoke. We all ran, throwing on whatever we could find, to the source of the sudden flash. It was there we stood in horror and shock. The mutilated bodies of Ver, Incognito, Flamewheel and Qatol could be seen amongst the wreckage of the shattered bus. Some snapped out of it sooner than others, tending to the nearby fires, and some locking down the scene. What seen however cannot be unseen. The damage done the town slipped back into an uneasy sleep, a sleep where nightmares wait. The town fell into chaos quickly, almost as quickly as the explosion, with no hope in obvious sight. People showed their fear by quickly setting up a stage. Upon it laid a block with an axe stuck in it. Upon the stage beside the block was series of small boxes. Each box clearly labeled with names. The names of all those remaining. Mob mentality had taken us. Fear plagued our thoughts. Our thoughts had led us to this; led us to the stance of kill or be killed. We are now animals trying to survive. Caged in by our instincts we begin to argue. Plans were formed and attacked; arguments lead to heated words and rash ballots. Others simply resigned to the savagery of the situation silently voted. Were they praying for our mutual survival or purely their own? Time may tell but now nothing is certain. Faith and hope are all we have left to keep us from complete barbarism. Throughout this all, I pulled myself away. I recognized the severity of the situation; I knew what had to be done. Sliding into the town’s coffee shop I pulled out my computer. I began to type. The words began to form, and the recording began. It may be too late to save us, but for those that read my records later, please understand what we did we did to survive and always remember that none of us wanted this to happen. It is time to end this entry; I shall leave the current ballot tallies for histories sake. Heaven save us when salvation or damnation will be found at the end a blade. ~ Vayesh Moru + Show Spoiler + BillMurray - 4 SouthRawrea Larjarse Pyrrhuloxia DarthThienAn Misder – 1 Divinek Chezinu – 1 Pandain Divinek – 1 Bumatlarge Youngminii – 1 Jayme Pyrrhuloxia – 1 BillMurray Love1Another – 3 Rastaban Chaoser Kf91 Rastaban – 1 Love1another Amber[light] – 2 Amber[light] Xelin DarthThienAn – 1 Youngminii Artanis[xp] – 1 Tree.hugger Brownbear – 1 ~opz~ yup, its chezinu on an alt, and he's going to unite the scribe finding mission with VM. the message will be clarified as something involving him. Still, really epic. | ||
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OMFG WAS THIS AN ACTUAL IDEA!?!? That might be good?????? I know, I'm scared too O.o Comments? To clarify, we in the thread just decide for the watcher and tracker to visit ???. The watcher and Tracker DOES NOT CLAIM TO ANYONE. The watcher will then be like "hey, i saw you visited this guy." and pm him. Then we already have two blues in a town circle. Yay for townnnnnnnnnn IS this a good idea? Oh my goodness I'm so excited. | ||
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On August 07 2010 08:05 Pandain wrote: How about we in the thread just say "okay, now all you people visit THIS GUY's" house. the people don't even have to claim. Than the watcher can meet up with the tracker and we have a town circle already. With no suicide bomber, we have no risk either. OMFG WAS THIS AN ACTUAL IDEA!?!? That might be good?????? I know, I'm scared too O.o Comments? To clarify, we in the thread just decide for the watcher and tracker to visit ???. The watcher and Tracker DOES NOT CLAIM TO ANYONE. The watcher will then be like "hey, i saw you visited this guy." and pm him. Then we already have two blues in a town circle. Yay for townnnnnnnnnn IS this a good idea? Oh my goodness I'm so excited. O CRAP I EDITED. What do I do? Am I banned. I meant to quote. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO | ||
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On August 07 2010 08:13 rastaban wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 08:05 Pandain wrote: How about we in the thread just say "okay, now all you people visit THIS GUY's" house. the people don't even have to claim. Than the watcher can meet up with the tracker and we have a town circle already. With no suicide bomber, we have no risk either. OMFG WAS THIS AN ACTUAL IDEA!?!? That might be good?????? I know, I'm scared too O.o Comments? Hmm it almost might would work... What the watcher though doesn't know who is who... the mafia can send their roleblocker or framer that night and now they are listed as verified. at first I thought mafia could hit him but the watcher would get the name of one of the mafia so it wouldn't be beneficial. Hmm I don't straight up disagree it might be an option but needs thought out a little more... Anyone else have any thoughts on this? Hmm.... good point. But then we could just keep on doing that again and agian. Therefore, we negate one of the mafia's powers. But is it too high a risk for town? Thanks for thinking on my plan btw. | ||
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1.If we do get this circle going, shoudl the tracker/watcher claim publically? Then we could get people to even possibly roleclaim to them. And get medics protecting them and the such. The only problem I see with this is if they then get shot or the such, but with medics idk. Or if the mafia false claims, but then both the watcher and tracker can go together and say "No, we both agree we're blue." The mafia could risk 2 red, but I would view that as a reasonable trade and even a dt check or so could straighten things out. 2. Don't really see the need to pick a specific person, just anyone imo. But yeah, let's do it for the Proleague finals. > | ||
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On August 07 2010 08:45 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Problem: what if THIS GUY is a ninja? The watcher could watch the ninja's house, I think. But the tracker wouldn't show up, I think. This is my interpretation of the rules. Then we find out who a ninja is and can thus blackmail him? hehehehehehehehehehehehehe. Best part is if the tracker and watcher don't tell the town the results, cause then mafia won't know either whether they are ninja or not. But wait... that comes back to the blackmail part. Hmm.... is it wise enough. Now IS the time to start talking about what to do with ninjas if we catch one n.n | ||
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So I was making this whole complicated thing about my plan, when I thought of something. Here's my thoughts......... Watccher and tracker visit BM Night hit will tell us whether they are mafia, since tracker will know about mafia. If mafia: Tracker and watcher gather up, two medics protect both of them. We lynch a certain mafia. Have town circle also. Possible mass roleclaim? If blue: We have a circle of 3 blues, perfect eh? Thoughts? | ||
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On August 07 2010 11:08 Divinek wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 11:05 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: On August 07 2010 11:02 Divinek wrote: On August 07 2010 10:57 Pandain wrote: Pandain's 1st Refinement of his plan: So I was making this whole complicated thing about my plan, when I thought of something. Here's my thoughts......... Watccher and tracker visit BM Night hit will tell us whether they are mafia, since tracker will know about mafia. If mafia: Tracker and watcher gather up, two medics protect both of them. We lynch a certain mafia. Have town circle also. Possible mass roleclaim? If blue: We have a circle of 3 blues, perfect eh? Thoughts? yeah that sounds fine, it's a good way to clear someone as well. Since they will find each other, and both of the meds can protect BM and the DT can investigate him cant all blues with abilities like this find each other simply by all going to one player while a watcher/tracker is there? Hmm so some possible probs - what if BM is mafia and first mafia hit hits a protted person so they don't die? Or hits a vet? Survivor of hit will have to claim in this scenario. yeah i dont believe he is the crux of this plan but that is an important thing to note before clearing him certainly so what are peoples thoughts about avoiding the roleblocker infiltrating the circle? because obviously the watcher cant just hand out a list of the people who visited say bm, to each other, because then the role blocker would get a list of almost certainly all blues right i dont know if im confused about how the roles work but there's no guaranteed way to know any of the people visiting bm wont be the role blocker as the watchers the only person who is going to have all of this info right? Tracker will know whether BM is innocent. Watcher will know who visited. Watcher reveals both of who visited(tracker and roleblocker) BM is innocent: We still have a circle of blues, good for us. BM is mafia: Two red down(roleblocker and him). Lowers kp to 2. Much more managable. Even better if BM is special red as well. | ||
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On August 07 2010 11:17 Divinek wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 11:14 Pandain wrote: On August 07 2010 11:08 Divinek wrote: On August 07 2010 11:05 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: On August 07 2010 11:02 Divinek wrote: On August 07 2010 10:57 Pandain wrote: Pandain's 1st Refinement of his plan: So I was making this whole complicated thing about my plan, when I thought of something. Here's my thoughts......... Watccher and tracker visit BM Night hit will tell us whether they are mafia, since tracker will know about mafia. If mafia: Tracker and watcher gather up, two medics protect both of them. We lynch a certain mafia. Have town circle also. Possible mass roleclaim? If blue: We have a circle of 3 blues, perfect eh? Thoughts? yeah that sounds fine, it's a good way to clear someone as well. Since they will find each other, and both of the meds can protect BM and the DT can investigate him cant all blues with abilities like this find each other simply by all going to one player while a watcher/tracker is there? Hmm so some possible probs - what if BM is mafia and first mafia hit hits a protted person so they don't die? Or hits a vet? Survivor of hit will have to claim in this scenario. yeah i dont believe he is the crux of this plan but that is an important thing to note before clearing him certainly so what are peoples thoughts about avoiding the roleblocker infiltrating the circle? because obviously the watcher cant just hand out a list of the people who visited say bm, to each other, because then the role blocker would get a list of almost certainly all blues right i dont know if im confused about how the roles work but there's no guaranteed way to know any of the people visiting bm wont be the role blocker as the watchers the only person who is going to have all of this info right? Tracker will know whether BM is innocent. Watcher will know who visited. Watcher reveals both of who visited(tracker and roleblocker) BM is innocent: We still have a circle of blues, good for us. BM is mafia: Two red down(roleblocker and him). Lowers kp to 2. Much more managable. Even better if BM is special red as well. how does that net us a circle of blues. BM's innocence is not guaranteed unless 3 mafia kp go through and surely now they wont let that happen. As for the blues we have to lynch one of the people the watcher sees if more than one visits to confirm who the tracker is and by that point he's dead We can use the bus driver to keep bm alive though cause then the watcher and tracker will see the same person, though it wont clear bm. But if we dont use the bus driver then bm is probably gonna die soo yeah No you see... tracker will know whether BM is mafia. Tracker can PM watcher sharing his results. Even if mafia does so too( by faking to be tracker) after we lynch one of them we can tell who told the truth. Therefore, we have a watcher and whatever BM is. If he's blue, than we have two blues in a circle. Yay for town. | ||
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On August 07 2010 11:20 Divinek wrote: also remember if tracker doesnt get anything from bm that either means he's town, gf, or ninja. But we should know the ninja thing cause no one will get anything, though the only way we know if these people got nothing is if they publically claim, so maybe we should have someone to do this for on day 2 as well so they dont have to publically tell us? Even though the odds are low (at least i think if you track gf you dont get the info tracker normally would get) so he doesnt have to be cleared, i think He's not town, he claimed blue. Therefore he's only ninja, GF, or red. Doubt he's ninja because he's been so active and already claimed blue. Seems like a mafish thing. If we don't get anything therefore, we lynch him. And we have a mafia. Worst case scenario: He really messed up and is ninja. Not that bad either. | ||
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So I highly urge all of you to unvote Bill Murray this instant. Right now, yes, right now. Don't keep reading this, go right now and do it. + Show Spoiler + Why haven't you done it yet? | ||
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On August 07 2010 11:36 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 11:32 Pandain wrote: Still, as of right now I think my plan is basically 100% foolproof. The only real thing that can mess this up is if a nosy neighbor comes in, and that's 1/30 chance. So right now, this is the best thing we've got. So I highly urge all of you to unvote Bill Murray this instant. Right now, yes, right now. Don't keep reading this, go right now and do it. + Show Spoiler + Why haven't you done it yet? Because I think he's red and if he flips red we can try the same thing with someone else. If he survives this lynch he can take the GF role and claim vet and put himself on vet and your plan can't help us determine whether he is a real vet or fake vet. just because you THINK he's red doesn't mean that's good enough of a reason to jeopardize a plan which could result in possibly two red's being captured or a 3way blue circle. Please, unvote him right now. | ||
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On August 07 2010 11:41 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 11:37 Pandain wrote: On August 07 2010 11:36 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: On August 07 2010 11:32 Pandain wrote: Still, as of right now I think my plan is basically 100% foolproof. The only real thing that can mess this up is if a nosy neighbor comes in, and that's 1/30 chance. So right now, this is the best thing we've got. So I highly urge all of you to unvote Bill Murray this instant. Right now, yes, right now. Don't keep reading this, go right now and do it. + Show Spoiler + Why haven't you done it yet? Because I think he's red and if he flips red we can try the same thing with someone else. If he survives this lynch he can take the GF role and claim vet and put himself on vet and your plan can't help us determine whether he is a real vet or fake vet. just because you THINK he's red doesn't mean that's good enough of a reason to jeopardize a plan which could result in possibly two red's being captured or a 3way blue circle. Please, unvote him right now. ? I just explained how if he is red than your plan is useless. This also means that if he is a blue role that doesn't visit, your plan is useless. Your plan can be done with a lot of different people; it doesn't have to be BM. Your plan made sense till LSB pointed out that Godfather cannot be tracked. Then it got a lot more iffy and I want to go after the highly likely red as fast as possible. If godfather cannot be tracked, than we know he is GF and lynch him. WE got a certain GF than. Otherwise, without that knowledge there is just as great a chance you are lynching a blue. Plus, my plan revolves around BM claiming blue. Without him, than we still won't have a circle if mafia fakes as a tracker. | ||
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On August 07 2010 11:46 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 11:42 Pandain wrote: On August 07 2010 11:41 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: On August 07 2010 11:37 Pandain wrote: On August 07 2010 11:36 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: On August 07 2010 11:32 Pandain wrote: Still, as of right now I think my plan is basically 100% foolproof. The only real thing that can mess this up is if a nosy neighbor comes in, and that's 1/30 chance. So right now, this is the best thing we've got. So I highly urge all of you to unvote Bill Murray this instant. Right now, yes, right now. Don't keep reading this, go right now and do it. + Show Spoiler + Why haven't you done it yet? Because I think he's red and if he flips red we can try the same thing with someone else. If he survives this lynch he can take the GF role and claim vet and put himself on vet and your plan can't help us determine whether he is a real vet or fake vet. just because you THINK he's red doesn't mean that's good enough of a reason to jeopardize a plan which could result in possibly two red's being captured or a 3way blue circle. Please, unvote him right now. ? I just explained how if he is red than your plan is useless. This also means that if he is a blue role that doesn't visit, your plan is useless. Your plan can be done with a lot of different people; it doesn't have to be BM. Your plan made sense till LSB pointed out that Godfather cannot be tracked. Then it got a lot more iffy and I want to go after the highly likely red as fast as possible. If godfather cannot be tracked, than we know he is GF and lynch him. WE got a certain GF than. Otherwise, without that knowledge there is just as great a chance you are lynching a blue. Plus, my plan revolves around BM claiming blue. Without him, than we still won't have a circle if mafia fakes as a tracker. GF cannot be tracked. Townie cannot be tracked. Veteran cannot be tracked. GF can appear as veteran or townie if desired. BM has already lied a few times this game. If he changes his claim to townie, would anyone care? He can also say he is a vigi and didn't want to waste his hit during the first night and use a real hit or mafia kp hit to claim later. BM is NOT a townie. HE claimed blue. Therefore, he is either lying and red or is really blue. And where does it say vets cannot be tracked? Don't see it in role. | ||
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On August 07 2010 11:48 chaoser wrote: vets can't visit anyone else so i guess they can't be tracked? agreed, then it reverts back to its "no mafia interference plan" where we have two confirmed blues. So perhaps we should have in that scenario the watcher and tracker come out in open. Than everyone RC(since they are clean.) Than we can hunt down the vets. Would be worth it if we get a GF. Very worth it. In addition, in the HIGHLY unlikely scenario that he IS GF, than he will still get caught as stated above. | ||
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On August 07 2010 11:58 SouthRawrea wrote: Oh really? You think Pyrr is NOT ninja after what he said? BTW replace Bill Murray in my posts with whoever is going to get lynched. It'll be easy to see if Pyrr is ninja or not based on whether he dies or not. If he was right about the number, ninjas will kill him. If he lives, than he's wrong. From there we can also speculate about whether there would be 2 or 4 ninjas. I'm thinkin 4 since I doubt flamwheel would only have 2 ninjas. Would seem lame :/ | ||
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On August 07 2010 11:59 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 11:55 Divinek wrote: On August 07 2010 11:48 chaoser wrote: On August 07 2010 11:46 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: On August 07 2010 11:42 Pandain wrote: On August 07 2010 11:41 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: On August 07 2010 11:37 Pandain wrote: On August 07 2010 11:36 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: On August 07 2010 11:32 Pandain wrote: Still, as of right now I think my plan is basically 100% foolproof. The only real thing that can mess this up is if a nosy neighbor comes in, and that's 1/30 chance. So right now, this is the best thing we've got. So I highly urge all of you to unvote Bill Murray this instant. Right now, yes, right now. Don't keep reading this, go right now and do it. + Show Spoiler + Why haven't you done it yet? Because I think he's red and if he flips red we can try the same thing with someone else. If he survives this lynch he can take the GF role and claim vet and put himself on vet and your plan can't help us determine whether he is a real vet or fake vet. just because you THINK he's red doesn't mean that's good enough of a reason to jeopardize a plan which could result in possibly two red's being captured or a 3way blue circle. Please, unvote him right now. ? I just explained how if he is red than your plan is useless. This also means that if he is a blue role that doesn't visit, your plan is useless. Your plan can be done with a lot of different people; it doesn't have to be BM. Your plan made sense till LSB pointed out that Godfather cannot be tracked. Then it got a lot more iffy and I want to go after the highly likely red as fast as possible. If godfather cannot be tracked, than we know he is GF and lynch him. WE got a certain GF than. Otherwise, without that knowledge there is just as great a chance you are lynching a blue. Plus, my plan revolves around BM claiming blue. Without him, than we still won't have a circle if mafia fakes as a tracker. GF cannot be tracked. Townie cannot be tracked. Veteran cannot be tracked. GF can appear as veteran or townie if desired. BM has already lied a few times this game. If he changes his claim to townie, would anyone care? He can also say he is a vigi and didn't want to waste his hit during the first night and use a real hit or mafia kp hit to claim later. even if they can't be tracked, watcher still sees tracker and if it's just the two then it's all gravy the thing is i think pyrr wants to push for bm's lynch and if he's our target for this then he cant really do that. which is understandable so it'd be perfectly reasonable to switch it to someone who we know we dont really want to lynch on day 1. Because while i doubt bm is going to get lynched it'd still be nice to leave him open to the possibility i mean we could like do it on someone like me or pandain, or uh i dunno you? someone who probably would never get GF because then we KNOW that person isnt mafia because the only way a tracked person isnt mafia is if they are the GF because even if you track a mafia member and they hit a medic or something "If you track Mafia, then you will be led to the scene of the first target on the Mafia hitlist." you're still led to a scene so you know exactly what happened and what the person you are tracking is this all depends on the fact that mafia havent already chosen their gf and if there is any cut off for doing so, other wise bm is as good as anyone else really unless we really want him to die Rules say mafia don't have to decide GF until end of day 1. I think we should wait until Day 1 ends and choose a target right at the start of Night 1, so blue roles have time to see and follow the plan. And we should just choose one of the inactive peeps at random, since the chance of them being GF is awful low. A tracker looking at a low-level player will probably see them go after someone on the hitlist if they are mafia since such a player would probably not be GF. This seems a much more safe use of Pandain's plan than BM. If he can't be tracked, than we go after vets and we get a GF. Everyone will mass roleclaim to watcher and tracker and from there we can find out who's who hopefully. Also, I think in nearly every one of my scenarios we either get 1. Two confirmed reds 2. One confirmed 3. Hidden GF in vets Either way, we will need a double lynch. I am voting for double lynch and urge others to do so. In which case | ||
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On August 07 2010 12:07 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 12:03 Pandain wrote: On August 07 2010 11:59 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: On August 07 2010 11:55 Divinek wrote: On August 07 2010 11:48 chaoser wrote: On August 07 2010 11:46 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: On August 07 2010 11:42 Pandain wrote: On August 07 2010 11:41 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: On August 07 2010 11:37 Pandain wrote: On August 07 2010 11:36 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: [quote] Because I think he's red and if he flips red we can try the same thing with someone else. If he survives this lynch he can take the GF role and claim vet and put himself on vet and your plan can't help us determine whether he is a real vet or fake vet. just because you THINK he's red doesn't mean that's good enough of a reason to jeopardize a plan which could result in possibly two red's being captured or a 3way blue circle. Please, unvote him right now. ? I just explained how if he is red than your plan is useless. This also means that if he is a blue role that doesn't visit, your plan is useless. Your plan can be done with a lot of different people; it doesn't have to be BM. Your plan made sense till LSB pointed out that Godfather cannot be tracked. Then it got a lot more iffy and I want to go after the highly likely red as fast as possible. If godfather cannot be tracked, than we know he is GF and lynch him. WE got a certain GF than. Otherwise, without that knowledge there is just as great a chance you are lynching a blue. Plus, my plan revolves around BM claiming blue. Without him, than we still won't have a circle if mafia fakes as a tracker. GF cannot be tracked. Townie cannot be tracked. Veteran cannot be tracked. GF can appear as veteran or townie if desired. BM has already lied a few times this game. If he changes his claim to townie, would anyone care? He can also say he is a vigi and didn't want to waste his hit during the first night and use a real hit or mafia kp hit to claim later. even if they can't be tracked, watcher still sees tracker and if it's just the two then it's all gravy the thing is i think pyrr wants to push for bm's lynch and if he's our target for this then he cant really do that. which is understandable so it'd be perfectly reasonable to switch it to someone who we know we dont really want to lynch on day 1. Because while i doubt bm is going to get lynched it'd still be nice to leave him open to the possibility i mean we could like do it on someone like me or pandain, or uh i dunno you? someone who probably would never get GF because then we KNOW that person isnt mafia because the only way a tracked person isnt mafia is if they are the GF because even if you track a mafia member and they hit a medic or something "If you track Mafia, then you will be led to the scene of the first target on the Mafia hitlist." you're still led to a scene so you know exactly what happened and what the person you are tracking is this all depends on the fact that mafia havent already chosen their gf and if there is any cut off for doing so, other wise bm is as good as anyone else really unless we really want him to die Rules say mafia don't have to decide GF until end of day 1. I think we should wait until Day 1 ends and choose a target right at the start of Night 1, so blue roles have time to see and follow the plan. And we should just choose one of the inactive peeps at random, since the chance of them being GF is awful low. A tracker looking at a low-level player will probably see them go after someone on the hitlist if they are mafia since such a player would probably not be GF. This seems a much more safe use of Pandain's plan than BM. If he can't be tracked, than we go after vets and we get a GF. Everyone will mass roleclaim to watcher and tracker and from there we can find out who's who hopefully. Also, I think in nearly every one of my scenarios we either get 1. Two confirmed reds 2. One confirmed 3. Hidden GF in vets Either way, we will need a double lynch. I am voting for double lynch and urge others to do so. In which case Everyone can claim to watcher and tracker if the plan goes well regardless of whether or not BM is involved. Choosing someone high-profile like BM just makes it more likely that it will get fucked with. If BM is GF, Your plan is to kill off everyone that claims vet, after forcing all vets to claim? Whether BM is GF or real vet that plan sucks. I'll vote double lynch tomorrow if BM flips red. Otherwise I don't know who to go after and I don't think we will tomorrow. Day 2 double lynch is usually bad for town - I don't think this game is different. If I knew BM would be lynched today I'd vote double lynch but this is still up in the air. Hmmm... hunting down the vets will be risky I agree. At the same time, once we kill the godfather, things will become much easier for us. I need to think about this. I've been blind to certain aspects and must think and reflect. | ||
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On August 07 2010 12:10 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 12:03 LSB wrote: On August 07 2010 11:52 Pandain wrote: On August 07 2010 11:48 chaoser wrote: vets can't visit anyone else so i guess they can't be tracked? agreed, then it reverts back to its "no mafia interference plan" where we have two confirmed blues. So perhaps we should have in that scenario the watcher and tracker come out in open. Than everyone RC(since they are clean.) Than we can hunt down the vets. Would be worth it if we get a GF. Very worth it. In addition, in the HIGHLY unlikely scenario that he IS GF, than he will still get caught as stated above. Okay I agree with Pandain now. Here's the statistical breakdown. Probability that BM is Godfather/Ninja. I'm assuming 3 ninja's and Pyrr is a Ninja 27/30= 90% So 90% is the initial success rate. But what if more than one person visits BM? Let's say 2 people visits BM It could be 2 Stalkers, 1 Stalker and 1 Innocent Stalker, 1 Stalker and a random Mafia person. This could be trouble, the random Mafia person could attempt to vouch for BM. But the watcher can't just Post everyone who visited BM, because we could then just lose 2 stalker, the watchers, and BM. 4 people dead The probability of an Innocent stalker visiting BM is 28/29=96.55% Well, I'm not ninja. There could be 7 ninjas for all we know. Probability of BM becoming godfather tonight if he doesn't get lynched and is mafia is 100% and only 23/30 players are not mafia. Once again, he is not Ninja. I can guarantee you that. He claimed blue, asked everyone to pm him, has been so active. That's just asking for trouble and would ruin a Ninja. He is either blue or red. If he is red he will be GF as Pyrr has said. | ||
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On August 07 2010 12:11 SouthRawrea wrote: Question: What if there are more than 1 trackers/watchers? Than I kill Flamewheel | ||
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On August 07 2010 12:18 chaoser wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 12:15 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: On August 07 2010 12:08 LSB wrote: Before I go to sleep. What about this? Watcher watches BM. Everyone else makes a beeline and random medics / Vigilanties / Stalkers go visit BM. The Watcher then proceeds to PM everyone who visited BM and demands a Role Claim. If someone pretends to be watcher, he'll probably make a mistake and won't send a PM to the right person, and then easy expose. After a while, if the people who visited BM confirm that the Watcher is correct. The Watcher PMs everyone else who did not visit BM and demands a roleclaim So we basically get 1 person who is confirmed. First thing: no benefit to using BM as the watched person. That said: maybe this is better. Only problems are with getting waxed but our blues will know if they get waxed so that's not even a problem. Mafia would get the ID of the Watcher but we could protect them indefinitely with bus driver, right? Dude I think we might have a winner, here. Please look at LSB's plan here and critique it. How would people know which one is real watcher and which one is mafia if they get asked? agreed, and what if a person accidently sends it to a mafia because they asked first. No wayt ot ell who real watcher is. | ||
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On August 07 2010 12:19 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 12:18 chaoser wrote: On August 07 2010 12:15 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: On August 07 2010 12:08 LSB wrote: Before I go to sleep. What about this? Watcher watches BM. Everyone else makes a beeline and random medics / Vigilanties / Stalkers go visit BM. The Watcher then proceeds to PM everyone who visited BM and demands a Role Claim. If someone pretends to be watcher, he'll probably make a mistake and won't send a PM to the right person, and then easy expose. After a while, if the people who visited BM confirm that the Watcher is correct. The Watcher PMs everyone else who did not visit BM and demands a roleclaim So we basically get 1 person who is confirmed. First thing: no benefit to using BM as the watched person. That said: maybe this is better. Only problems are with getting waxed but our blues will know if they get waxed so that's not even a problem. Mafia would get the ID of the Watcher but we could protect them indefinitely with bus driver, right? Dude I think we might have a winner, here. Please look at LSB's plan here and critique it. How would people know which one is real watcher and which one is mafia if they get asked? The mafia can't watch, so there will be blues that don't get PMd from a mafia trying to fake watcher. The mafia fake-watcher may also end up PMing greens, there by giving themselves away. true true. Still, for "vigilante's" to visit him they would have to shoot him, and even if the said medics did protect him it still means they lose their KP. So they should NOT. | ||
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On August 07 2010 12:22 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 12:18 Pandain wrote: On August 07 2010 12:18 chaoser wrote: On August 07 2010 12:15 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: On August 07 2010 12:08 LSB wrote: Before I go to sleep. What about this? Watcher watches BM. Everyone else makes a beeline and random medics / Vigilanties / Stalkers go visit BM. The Watcher then proceeds to PM everyone who visited BM and demands a Role Claim. If someone pretends to be watcher, he'll probably make a mistake and won't send a PM to the right person, and then easy expose. After a while, if the people who visited BM confirm that the Watcher is correct. The Watcher PMs everyone else who did not visit BM and demands a roleclaim So we basically get 1 person who is confirmed. First thing: no benefit to using BM as the watched person. That said: maybe this is better. Only problems are with getting waxed but our blues will know if they get waxed so that's not even a problem. Mafia would get the ID of the Watcher but we could protect them indefinitely with bus driver, right? Dude I think we might have a winner, here. Please look at LSB's plan here and critique it. How would people know which one is real watcher and which one is mafia if they get asked? agreed, and what if a person accidently sends it to a mafia because they asked first. No wayt ot ell who real watcher is. If what person accidentally sends what to a mafia? We can easily pick out a fake watcher with this plan because the only way to fake watcher will be to CORRECTLY GUESS 100% OF THE VISITING BLUES. So some adaptions to this plan: People who get pmed from watcher will wait 12-24 hours to see if a townie will claim he got a pm from said person before the blues will respond vigis will NOT visit said person(lol) This plan does seem pretty good... | ||
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On August 07 2010 12:23 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: ah wtf there are nosy neighbors. didn't even fucking see that till now. 1/30 chance, negligible. | ||
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On August 07 2010 12:27 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 12:25 Pandain wrote: On August 07 2010 12:23 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: ah wtf there are nosy neighbors. didn't even fucking see that till now. 1/30 chance, negligible. We don't know how many there are do we? okay, in which case they will respond" Huh... what the fadoodle you talkin' bout son." Than DTS can check them and see if they are town. Problem solved. | ||
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On August 07 2010 12:33 SouthRawrea wrote: Godfather can fake whispered green can they not? I think we should stick with the original plan. GF can't visit someone. | ||
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On August 07 2010 12:40 Divinek wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 12:35 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: On August 07 2010 12:24 Pandain wrote: On August 07 2010 12:22 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: On August 07 2010 12:18 Pandain wrote: On August 07 2010 12:18 chaoser wrote: On August 07 2010 12:15 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: On August 07 2010 12:08 LSB wrote: Before I go to sleep. What about this? Watcher watches BM. Everyone else makes a beeline and random medics / Vigilanties / Stalkers go visit BM. The Watcher then proceeds to PM everyone who visited BM and demands a Role Claim. If someone pretends to be watcher, he'll probably make a mistake and won't send a PM to the right person, and then easy expose. After a while, if the people who visited BM confirm that the Watcher is correct. The Watcher PMs everyone else who did not visit BM and demands a roleclaim So we basically get 1 person who is confirmed. First thing: no benefit to using BM as the watched person. That said: maybe this is better. Only problems are with getting waxed but our blues will know if they get waxed so that's not even a problem. Mafia would get the ID of the Watcher but we could protect them indefinitely with bus driver, right? Dude I think we might have a winner, here. Please look at LSB's plan here and critique it. How would people know which one is real watcher and which one is mafia if they get asked? agreed, and what if a person accidently sends it to a mafia because they asked first. No wayt ot ell who real watcher is. If what person accidentally sends what to a mafia? We can easily pick out a fake watcher with this plan because the only way to fake watcher will be to CORRECTLY GUESS 100% OF THE VISITING BLUES. So some adaptions to this plan: People who get pmed from watcher will wait 12-24 hours to see if a townie will claim he got a pm from said person before the blues will respond vigis will NOT visit said person(lol) This plan does seem pretty good... Current Version of LSB Plan We pick a THIS GUY. All watchers watch him. All detectives check him. All medics prot him. All trackers track him. Bus drivers and vigis stay away. Hatters probably stay away, too. If a blue's action went through (no waxing) they will expect a PM from a watcher. If no PMs are sent, there is no watcher or watcher was waxed. If a blue gets one PM, then that is the real watcher unless the unlikely event of the watcher being waxed (mafia can possibly claim waxed watcher). If a green gets a PM they can come forward - they are nosy neighbor or mafia is faking. If no greens come forward we are probably doing good. If a blue that didn't act on THIS GUY gets a PM, we have a surefire mafia. If no one steps forward seeing shenanigans for say, 24 hours. We can have watcher step forward - no one else comes forward we can protect them with bus. If more than one step forward, a blue can use pm evidence to out them if they are fake, maybe a DT can use a mouth they've confirmed (look for mafia to use an innocent as a mouth here, or maybe a mafia as a mouth like rastaban/sr last game). but how do we set up a real circle when the role blocker gets in there Perhaps we could do a combination of my plan and LSB's plan. Thus making two circles and two reds caught? Lowering KP to 2. We can get DT's to check people who claim blues when theres more than 1, especially more than 2. This is interesting though, since we don't know how many of each role there is. good catch. | ||
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On August 07 2010 12:40 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 12:35 Divinek wrote: it's still quite unlikely a noisy neighbour is going to visit bm that night we can easily just get every townie that gets a pm from the 'watcher' to say he did and if it's more than say 1 or 2 , two would easily be even pushing it, then all the blues can know the watcher is a bullshitter. and besides like said the mafia would have to for sure hit every blue on that list accurately and there's just no way mafia could come even close to doing this because all the people that visit him KNOW they did it Yeah. There are a few fake claim opportunities I listed to watch out for, but I find this to be the best plan yet. Don't think we should use BM, though. It would probably be best to pick someone we are most sure is not a ninja, or someone from the PL Finals list. BM is NOT a ninja. I can guarantee you that 99.99%. His play has been WAY too active, too risky, too lynch-inducing to be a a ninja. | ||
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On August 07 2010 12:47 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 12:44 Pandain wrote: On August 07 2010 12:40 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: On August 07 2010 12:35 Divinek wrote: it's still quite unlikely a noisy neighbour is going to visit bm that night we can easily just get every townie that gets a pm from the 'watcher' to say he did and if it's more than say 1 or 2 , two would easily be even pushing it, then all the blues can know the watcher is a bullshitter. and besides like said the mafia would have to for sure hit every blue on that list accurately and there's just no way mafia could come even close to doing this because all the people that visit him KNOW they did it Yeah. There are a few fake claim opportunities I listed to watch out for, but I find this to be the best plan yet. Don't think we should use BM, though. It would probably be best to pick someone we are most sure is not a ninja, or someone from the PL Finals list. BM is NOT a ninja. I can guarantee you that 99.99%. His play has been WAY too active, too risky, too lynch-inducing to be a a ninja. Yeah, I can guarantee you 99.99% he's red and so I'd rather just see him go today *shrug*. Can't be too lynch-inducing when he's already out of the noose thanks to SouthRawrea's change (not necessarily fosing SR btw). One of the main reasons he's not getting lynched is the point he could be a blue and thus contribute greatly to my plan. Anyway, I'm really starting to think we should have a combination of our two plans(mine and LSB's) since that would force 1) Many mafia to come out and combat these growing circles As long as allow us to 1)Grow 2 circles 2) Catch a potential GF 3)Get more infomation. | ||
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On August 07 2010 12:51 bumatlarge wrote: Ok ignore the fact that i stated pandains plan was in action 10 pages before he brought it up. I adapted mine from BM's plan where he said both watcher and tracker can RC to him. Than I said what if they just both track an anonymous person. Don't see what it would mean anyway :/ | ||
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1) force out a special red 2) get watcher with contact in blue. I think I've detailed how to do that before. Either way, by making them do BM we FORCE him to be GF, therefore FORCING him to be Vet, therefore setting up for the second plan Since vet cannot visit someone, he cannot try to hide with the second thing.Watcher will knokw identify of special red, so even if we mislynch first than we can find out a second red. Any blue role with only 1 guy will be safe. Has there ever been a case where there hasn't been at least one of a blue role? The person will probably fake DT claim just in the scenario there's only one DT. If you haven't been able to tell, I'm just rambling. Please expand on all this and make it better. I'm listing my thoughts out loud so we can get a better idea. Please, expand on my thoughts. | ||
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On August 07 2010 13:20 Divinek wrote: Heyy Pyrr! Pandain! since you're among the two dudes actually reading the thread whaddya think? it's an UPDATE on my larjarse + Show Spoiler + hey lets look at larjarse's latest posts! On August 07 2010 01:54 larjarse wrote: TBH rastaban is also looking quite suspicious. He is trying to do so much planning as a townie. I WANT THE MAN DEAD retarded spam On August 07 2010 02:11 larjarse wrote: Valid point, rastaban. I am just G checking you to get some text.. As you can see, I haven't change my vote. retarded spam On August 07 2010 01:50 larjarse wrote: Show nested quote + On August 06 2010 23:18 love1another wrote: I'm a confirmed townie please. Don't kill me plz LOLing that noone said anything about this. And once he proclaimed that he is a townie, he was voted by rastaban and chaoser. Suspiciousssoo blah blah blah it's been said before On August 06 2010 15:04 larjarse wrote: Can you stop talking about previous games? It kind of ruins the fun. spammmmm On August 06 2010 14:57 larjarse wrote: I would say BillMurray's concern about not being randomly voted to be killed justifies that he probably isn't a Townie. what the fuck does this even mean? lol it loosk like a reason without a reason On August 06 2010 14:44 larjarse wrote: BTW this leaves BillMurray and divinek tied at 3 votes each. blah blah we can all read dude ok you're getting my vote until you actually fucking post some content On August 07 2010 12:00 larjarse wrote: Divinek saying I spam spam spam on pg 23: This is my first game. You also excluded my posts that had content. So vote me if you please and calm down your e rage, bro. I voted BM becauese I instinctively feel like he's up to no good. If he's actually good, then oh well, it was a 1/6 chance anyways and it's only the first day. Many can sit here and theroize why people posted what and everthing, but you probably aren't going to know who anyone is today. Pyrrhuloxia United States. August 07 2010 10:12. I think we should be suspicious of people who defend others so early.. I agree! Divinek again targeting me on pg 25: speaking of which lets have a look at some inactive or people that have posted basically nothing thus far 1)lasjarles(or whatever) !!! Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 11:20 Divinek wrote: also remember if tracker doesnt get anything from bm that either means he's town, gf, or ninja. But we should know the ninja thing cause no one will get anything, though the only way we know if these people got nothing is if they publically claim, so maybe we should have someone to do this for on day 2 as well so they dont have to publically tell us? Even though the odds are low (at least i think if you track gf you dont get the info tracker normally would get) so he doesnt have to be cleared, i think And the roleblocker/framer can change the entire story. Divinek seems sure that BM is going to be watched tonight and is posting his expected results to further defend BM and thus fuck over the town if he is actually scum. Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 11:46 Divinek wrote: On August 07 2010 11:42 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Maybe your plan isn't useless in the previous mentioned situations; it would be more accurate to say that it doesn't get any better by using BM and it could get much worse by using BM. i agree id much rather lynch him or one of the inactives and use the watcher/tracker thing on someone else So lets lynch him, and see what happens. Reading more bickering yadda yadda.. Okay lets just lynch BM and see what happens. Okey? Ok. Then maybe DivineK. since he posted a big post ill summarize my feelings of what he said here 1)he said i neglected his content posts, i quoted ALL of his posts (well okay not all i skipped two at the start that were one liners of stupid spam that everyone was doing at the time since the game JUST started so i figured they just fit in so they didnt count, but i assure you they are spam!), so he's lying LoL lets get to that later though 2) he says something we have already discussed at lenght long after that post was made, so his post is pointless rehashing of what we've covered 3) He really wants to lynch bm just to see what happens? Thanks for not helping town! Not, you look reaaaaaaaaaaaaaal bad buddy i dare someone to say he's been useful to town in anyway so far, can someone give me a reason not to vote for him? other people should read it too but i just wanted their attention extra special Think he's just new/doesn't know how to play. If he's mafia, I would think he would be getting coached and listening to what to say. Unless he's been on other mafia and is frequent, I'm not really going to look heavily into him as of now. His posts, while lacking content, are just typical of a new player(like myself ) and not mafia-esque. | ||
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On August 07 2010 17:31 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 16:53 flamewheel wrote: On August 07 2010 13:40 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: On August 07 2010 13:39 larjarse wrote: Divinek, I have PMed flamewheel several times with questions so callate la voca. Yeah flamewheel has been on MSN all night but still hasn't answered my question about whether a watcher can see a tracker attempting to track a ninja. ? Uhhh I have no logs on my MSN today. If Watcher is watching ninja he/she sees nothing. Wellllll that was unexpected and makes our plans potentially harder. Doesn't matter, BM's not ninja. And as long as we stick with BM, we will have a non ninja, a potential blue, and a potential GF. I say we get watcher to watch him, than get dt to check him. If he's vet, we lynch him. If he's not, we go with your plan. That sounds reasonable to me. | ||
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On August 07 2010 17:38 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Dude, Bill Murray. I underestimated you, man. Well, my biggest fuck up was thinking I could lynch you on day 1. I should have realized town will never try to lynch a mafia on day 1 because they'd rather go after townies that are goofing a bit or don't know what the hell they are doing. You're so fucking obvious and no one gives a shit. I'm so depressed over this. If we get DT to check him, than if he's not vet tracker can tell whether he's mafia or not. Because the only blue role that cannot be tracked is vet, therefore if he's not vet, we can trust him. If he's vet, than we lynch him because he's too dangerous. In addition, if he's not vet, we go ahead with your plan as well. Well maybe... still. I think the DT checking him is a nice addition. Thoughts? | ||
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Pandain had found it! He had found the secret list, detailing everyone who was mafia. In addition, it was signed by flamewheel himself! He picked it up, and started typing it into his computer...when suddenly he noticed. "Grand Finals" Pandain threw the paper into the fire, and began to prepare collecting the tears of KT fanboys. | ||
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On August 07 2010 17:55 Bill Murray wrote: no what we need is the tracker to claim, in thread, who they are going to track. Why do that? That only reveals who the tracker is to mafia. Much better imo just for town to publicly select one. I would prefer a townie actually coming up and saying "Hey pick me, a regular townie with no special abilities." But int he end, it doesn't really matter as the chances of said person getting shot by mafia is low. | ||
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On August 07 2010 18:01 Bill Murray wrote: the medics would know who to protect, then. the watcher watches him, and confirms whether or not he's lying. if he isn't lying, the watcher doesn't even need to claim. he can pm him if he wants, or not. i'd prefer if he didn't pm him, and didn't say anything, unless the tracker is lying. As of now and during this night the tracker will have no fear of being shot. The watcher won't reveal who he is/ tracker is until at least the day. All it does right now is invite the mafia to shoot him. I have already detailed how we will find a false claimer in the case a special mafia tries to fake as tracker. | ||
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On August 07 2010 18:07 Bill Murray wrote: your plan turns into an unorganized clusterfuck in which we will not be able to get any information at all. my plan turns into 1 confirmed townie and outs only 1 person who can be double medic protected. Does the mafia really want to triplestack on a double-protected tracker? I don't think they would. Anyone who is against this is probably mafia Yes, yes they would. Because this tracker is the best hope we have of getting at least one confirmed circle, 1-2 red's(possibly GF), and possibly even contributing to another HUGE circle (aka LSB's plan) | ||
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On August 07 2010 18:24 Bill Murray wrote: you tried to steal my plan if anything, your plan is like my plan, except it is worse because it risks a lot of blues potentially, whereas mine risks one. respond to why we should lay all our cards out on the table when there are roleblockers, framers, and ninjas lurking out there, and convince me, and i'll back off. i want this whole planning stage to end, really, so we can start scumhunting My plan risks alot of blues? At most it risks 1. Just one 1. Maybe you're reffering to LSB's plan? As I said, my plan has the same outcome as your plan but my plan reveals whether your scum or not. | ||
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On August 07 2010 18:29 Bill Murray wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 18:27 Pandain wrote: On August 07 2010 18:24 Bill Murray wrote: you tried to steal my plan if anything, your plan is like my plan, except it is worse because it risks a lot of blues potentially, whereas mine risks one. respond to why we should lay all our cards out on the table when there are roleblockers, framers, and ninjas lurking out there, and convince me, and i'll back off. i want this whole planning stage to end, really, so we can start scumhunting My plan risks alot of blues? At most it risks 1. Just one 1. Maybe you're reffering to LSB's plan? As I said, my plan has the same outcome as your plan but my plan reveals whether your scum or not. I'm not mafia, and the DT should be trying to find mafia, so I disagree with you Who says they aren't? The DT will be finding out whether you are blue or mafia, in which case either lynch you or add you to circle. I'm pretty sure this is like the perfect decision for DT to check. | ||
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On August 07 2010 19:08 Bill Murray wrote: ok, but since you "modified" my idea, you've ruined it. you are letting a roleblocker ruin a circle potentially the way i am doing it limits it to 1 person who needs to be pmed, the way you all have modified it makes it to where multiple people have to do multiple things. you all are also indicating to him where to go, which doesn't confirm shit. it needs to be called BEFORE and BY the person. We can't say "Go to house A" or we won't know who the fucking tracker is in the first place. Your "idea" which suspiciously came RIGHT after mine is like the mafia-influenced variant of my idea. It enables multiple people to know where to go. What I want the tracker to do is to roleclaim and to call his shot. Mafia won't do this unless they want to trade a roleblocker or framer for a tracker, which they won't want to. I'd take that trade. I really don't believe a ninja would want to get mixed up in that shit, either. wtf... you pm me saying you'd be alright with my plan if I gave you credit for the original, and then this? You confuse me so much. Instead of saying "it lets the mafia know stuff" say why that's bad. Yeah, the mafia knows we're checking. It's up to them to make their move. Either way, we've got them up against a wall. Your plan might work, but I said this and I will say this again: MY PLAN WILL FIGURE OUT YOUR ROLE AS WELL! So my plan is in effect, a better variation than yours. | ||
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On August 07 2010 19:15 Bill Murray wrote: your plan isn't good. let me explain this in language even a 14 year old would understand: watcher watches player a tracker tracks player a framer frames player a roleblocker blocks player a watcher sees tracker, framer, roleblocker, but doesn't know who is who This is my plan: watcher watches the claimed tracker who says he's visiting player a tracker visits player a = we trust him tracker doesn't visit player a = we discuss lynching him ahaha, if that happens, that's the best thing ever. We get BOTH of the special roles for mafia. The watcher will know everyone, and basically we can medic protect the watcher and then lynch the other 3. Sure, we might lose a tracker but we'll get a framer and a roleblocker. Better evidence please. | ||
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On August 07 2010 19:23 Bill Murray wrote: You also act like them roleblocking our tracker is a bad thing... would you rather have a tracker roleblocked or a medic? my plan is way better imo It is a bad thing, then your plan won't work. Duh. On August 07 2010 19:25 Bill Murray wrote: also, if we have 1 tracker claim, and no counter-claim, we won't even need to lynch him. we can just medic protect him, bus him, whatever to keep him alive. furthermore, if we can't break the game like i want to, we have to resort to scumhunting! oh no, whatever shall we do. Basically what the watcher in my plan would do, however my watcher would get way more info. On August 07 2010 19:19 Bill Murray wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 19:17 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: On August 07 2010 19:16 Pandain wrote: On August 07 2010 19:15 Bill Murray wrote: your plan isn't good. let me explain this in language even a 14 year old would understand: watcher watches player a tracker tracks player a framer frames player a roleblocker blocks player a watcher sees tracker, framer, roleblocker, but doesn't know who is who This is my plan: watcher watches the claimed tracker who says he's visiting player a tracker visits player a = we trust him tracker doesn't visit player a = we discuss lynching him ahaha, if that happens, that's the best thing ever. We get BOTH of the special roles for mafia. The watcher will know everyone, and basically we can medic protect the watcher and then lynch the other 3. Sure, we might lose a tracker but we'll get a framer and a roleblocker. Better evidence please. Exactly. List of 3 with 2 mafia on it? We don't want that? you act like we'll KNOW they're mafia. We won't. Congragulations! You just identified a negligigible risk that has been already discussed and found to be highly, highly, highly improbable. | ||
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On August 07 2010 19:46 Bill Murray wrote: you consider fakeclaims negligible? you were in last game... did you learn ANYTHING? So tracker fake claims. We've already discussed this. Do you really want me to explain it for like the 5th time. | ||
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On August 07 2010 19:48 Bill Murray wrote: I'd rather not have to worry about it. With my variation, we force them to roleblock a role they don't really even want to roleblockm, because town circles scare them With my plan, they do the same. Since if they want to stop the town circle they have to send a framer/roleblocker to said person(Preferably you.) My plan does everything yours does, but better. Please realize that. | ||
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On August 07 2010 19:56 Bill Murray wrote: and if you're saying no medics, no bus, only 1 dt (it would be 2, since we'll have 2, durr. or it COULD be none. they might both think "the other one will do it".), 1 watcher, 1 tracker, it will still end up being 4 or 5 people, if not more, mark my words. watcher has to deal with these people -1 Hmm... unless someone else can offer anything, this may be right. The chance of there being two dts is enough to be taken seriously. Thoughts about this? I'd like to try to save the plan if possible? | ||
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So I'm voting Roffles. I'm sorry man, you can't just make one post so far, and that one post saying you don't care about anything anyone's saying. That doesn't help anyone at all. With that, I'm voting him. | ||
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August 09 2010 21:58 GMT
#1171
Though as several people now(pming) I have been on vacation and will not be AS active, but hopefully at least once a day be on for like ~1-2 hours. Interesting things happened, and after reading the thread I've thought of some things. Chezinu: What the fadoodle. I mean seriously, wtf. WHY DID YOU NOT FOLLOW THE PLAN! All you did until you claimed was post non-relavant pieces of content. LSB's plan was a good one. IT was almost absolutely flawless, and you can tell even the mafia were shaking in their boots because they assasinated him. He's new right? So the plan is the only reason they killed him. Meaning: 1. They knew it would work/afraid it would almost certainly They also probably devised a counter plan to do: perhaps even involving a certain someone false claiming tracker therefore seemingly ruining the plan. Not saying you're lying, but if you're not you just fadoodled the town. I mean, if you didn't track, than alot of blues just wasted their check for nothing. Seriously Chezinu, I know you "like to do your own stuff" but you're expierenced and should know if you're going to let something like that happen you should at The VERY LEAST say why you felt the plan was bad. It's stuff like this that make me question you. In addition, people who argued against the plan in thread or pm should be looked at carefully, as well as people who claimed "the plan has died!" after the post. The plan is alive, and the plan can work. Make it work people. We know that BB was roleblocked, so Xelin wasn't roleblocked. Meaning the mafia 99.9999% surely did frame Xelin. Therefore, if DT's found anything else Xelin is GF. But he's almost certainly not. If there is another tracker, I highly suggest they claim now. Why? Chezinu claimed to be tracker. For reasons above and more I don't believe he truly is. I think mafia made him GF and let him be tracker because they needed to ruin the plan. With another tracker, they track Chezinu. Xelin, if Chezinu is in your circle, please beware. He may have claimed to you as tracker, but unless you 100% know for a fact he is (which I doubt you do) I think you should watch out. Be careful with your info. I do believe Xelin is innocent, but I have no proof and it's just my gut so I will comment on that no more. It seems to me Foolishness is in all likelihood telling the truth. However, if he was protected by med he should say so, in which case the plan might very well be ruined. Food for thought as I'm about to go: 1.Lynch Chezinu, if he's tracker than we know VM is innocent. Confirmed=yay Comment on everything here. Hopefully I'll be back tomorrow or something. Responding to PM's now. Have a good day! n.n | ||
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August 09 2010 22:00 GMT
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August 09 2010 22:20 GMT
#1180
Also: To whoever broke the Secret Friendship Alliance, you have just broken my heart. Watcher you have the info town needs. We can tell Xelin is innocent because if he was red they wouldn't have killed LSB, because the plan would've already been ruined (aka doon't need framer to frame him.) So you can find out the truth aka. But you need to trust him. | ||
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August 10 2010 23:34 GMT
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I've pmed Xelin with some information, hopefully he'll see the truth. Until then(or he responds) right now all that's happening is making it harder to see people's motives later(since they will change their vote for me, I won't be lynched, but they won't have to make a decision between the true role-revealer: Young and BM(think he's the second choice right?) | ||
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August 10 2010 23:38 GMT
#1425
On August 11 2010 08:35 Hesmyrr wrote: I'll wait and see. Enough votes have been traded places to make a difference anyway. Indeed, that's why everyone should change back their vote to the original, and then prepare to change if Xelin does respond. Right now all it does is give mafia the perfect opportunity to not get young killed, all the while claiming "Well Xelin said Pandain's the mafia." Offering a new lynch option like an hour before deadline is not a smart move, makes mafia too powerful in determining votes. Lynch me tommorow if Xelin doesn't respond. Right now mafia are surely taking this opportunity. | ||
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August 10 2010 23:43 GMT
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August 11 2010 00:25 GMT
#1456
On August 11 2010 09:17 DarthThienAn wrote: Show nested quote + On August 11 2010 09:08 youngminii wrote: I find it funny how I'm still the lynch candidate ahead of Pandain just because xelin 'says so' I hope to god xelin's scum and he's trolling you all, big time. claim! then xelin will switch to yet another target Actually Xelin didn't start that bandwagon, foolishness did. Youngmini, go back and look at foolishness's cases against you and respond to them. | ||
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August 11 2010 00:26 GMT
#1457
On August 11 2010 09:25 Bill Murray wrote: what did you claim? Also: STOP TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO CLAIM IN THREAD Oh my goodness gracious | ||
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August 11 2010 00:31 GMT
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On August 11 2010 09:30 youngminii wrote: What the fuck Pandain, are you kidding me? Why don't YOU go back and read my counter arguments? All foolishness did was ignore them while saying "I didn't contribute anything" along with Divinek. Why do you think I'm voting for foolishness? Yeah I tried to give an argument and no one listens, then I go afk for about half a day and suddenly people like you are saying I haven't done anything nor responded. Sorry I tried to help :/ Been on vacation and have to quickly read everything so I'm sorry if I missed it. Which page is it on? Actually just pm me it. | ||
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August 11 2010 01:02 GMT
#1472
Also... Brownbear you betray me | ||
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August 11 2010 01:05 GMT
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Last words(The 1000th Post) Brownbear.... I will always love you, even in death. Youngmini, hope you stay safe. Chaoser: I wish I could've found that mafia who said to kill you. I would've gotten him killed one way or another. Rastaban: Thanks for sticking up with me man. I dedicate my 1000th post to all my secret allied friends, to all the Secret Friendship Alliances. Its been a heck of a journye. | ||
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August 11 2010 01:39 GMT
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I was bored :/ | ||
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August 11 2010 02:00 GMT
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August 15 2010 02:29 GMT
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Funniest thing ever, seriously. Sorry, I'll be quiet. Just had to say that | ||
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August 18 2010 02:05 GMT
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August 18 2010 02:57 GMT
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On August 18 2010 11:22 VayeshMoru wrote: Show nested quote + On August 18 2010 11:19 BrownBear wrote: I love when 3rd party roles don't play towards their win conditions... seriously BC wtf. Eh? I helped get pandain lynched behind the scenes, plus wasn't sure of the name I was given at first when i got bm's name. So I continued to help town . I also agreed to help them for his name, so I think I did play to my win condition, just not as chaotically as people would have expected. mafia should have just messaged me as soon as my smurf failed as I was a super obvious ninja at that point. You know I was Ninja? I swear lol there was actually a bit of a chance I could've won as I had known both the ninjas. So I was going to kill one and then all I had to do was get fake being dt through the day. If I had gotten through that, then I was going to kill VM/BM and win =D. Of course, two of my secret friends had to be mafia, and then Brownbear(GF) sent in the pm I sent him to Xelin. GG for me. | ||
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August 18 2010 16:43 GMT
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On August 18 2010 15:31 DarthThienAn wrote: My post game thoughts- Pandain: Dude, I am so confused by you. You had the perfect cover as a ninja - claiming ninja with the wrong number? None of us thought you were ninja. The day you got lynched, you notice how everyone voted for you, went back to youngminii, then went back to you? It was because you were such a bad liar that we thought you were mafia. We heard you go around claiming ninja with 4 ninjas, but we knew there were only 3 because of BM/BC. Sure, one of them could have been lying, but both of them? I doubt it. Anyway, you then later claimed like DT or Townie or something, and we were like, "Alright, he's just a really bad fishing townie." But then you sent that PM to BB that was like "Oh I read it as 3 OTHER ninjas, not 3 ninjas," when we knew the wording was "2 other ninjas." So, with the emphasis on OTHER, you made us think that you were saying your role PM said "There are 3 ninjas", in which case, you were lying terribly, and we thought you were mafia for it. So then I pushed for your lynched, and everyone switched back. Hehe, everyone thinks I played horribly so I'm just going to lay out my actions and my plan and ask if it was really that bad. Okay, first off I should really stop with the secret friendship alliances. I told TWO mafia my role(ninja). One of them was BBl, the GF as well. So I think a new stipulation of SFA should be: You don't have to tell people roles. Okay, so I missed my first night action. I also told Xelin I was townie(later changed to ninja)However, I had found out from Rastaban and BB(possibly him) that both VM and BM were ninjas. The day I got lynched, Xelin had accused me and started to get me lynched for lying. However, then I fake claimed DT(the only thing that could save me.) I knew BB's (fake) role, so I claimed I had checked him and didn't tell Xelin I was DT because I wasn't sure if he was mafia. So that worked, and then Young also fake claimed he was blue. I could've defended myself and gotten him lynched instead, but it was really the PM I sent to BB that he ended up revealing to Xelin. In that PM, I told him I was really IN FACT ninja (=D). Since BB was protecting Young, he sent Xelin the PM. Then I was screwed. In fact, I truly believe I would've won if I had lived that night. I'm sort of sad I got so many "Damn boi Pandain sucks ninja" (even Flamewheel said that =D). Maybe it's true, just asking. | ||
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August 18 2010 18:37 GMT
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On August 19 2010 02:34 DarthThienAn wrote: @Opz: Yo your timeline is so confusing lol. Day One? Day Two? Whhaaa. The night I died was the night BM changed his hit a billion times, right? I was told that he was on Pyrr to start out. Then he switched to someone else. Then he switched to Youngminii and I was like "O.o why? But oh well, as long as YM takes his shot." Then he switched to tree.hugger (privately to Opz, but Opz told me). So I told BC about it (without revealing BM's name), so BC hit Divinek instead. @Framer: Like I said, I misinterpreted how tracking on the Framer role went down, and by then, I had already PMed Opz with like, my role and everything because I thought he was 100% town. If Xelin had been framer, with BB on his team, I'm not sure how that would have fared for the town xD. But by then, I was pretty convinced of Xelin's innocence because of the Pandain lynch. Night 2 - KF91 was supposed to bomb someone random (I forget who) but I think he bombed Xelin, lol. BB was supposed to bomb bum, which would have been great if BB hadn't been a fake hatter lol. Pandain, we lynched you for lying too much. You claim ninja, then claim "I'm actually DT/townie." That's fine. But when re-claim "I'm ACTUALLY ninja" with poor interpretation of your PM, I was like, he's definitely not a ninja - lynch him. Well yeah, but I had to tell the truth to my secret friend! | ||
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August 19 2010 02:25 GMT
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On August 19 2010 11:17 Chezinu wrote: Show nested quote + On August 19 2010 09:37 Divinek wrote: screw you bc for hitting me with a chop stick on his birthday! Speaking of Chezinu talking.... Where the fadoodle is my story! Even If you were the ninja my plan was to not kill you so I could have you finish the story | ||
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