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On August 07 2010 08:25 rastaban wrote:


Yeah I would say a tracker/watcher for a red is a good trade.

On August 07 2010 08:45 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Problem: what if THIS GUY is a ninja? The watcher could watch the ninja's house, I think. But the tracker wouldn't show up, I think. This is my interpretation of the rules.

On August 07 2010 08:45 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Problem: what if THIS GUY is a ninja? The watcher could watch the ninja's house, I think. But the tracker wouldn't show up, I think. This is my interpretation of the rules.

On August 07 2010 08:46 Pandain wrote:


Then we find out who a ninja is and can thus blackmail him? hehehehehehehehehehehehehe.
Best part is if the tracker and watcher don't tell the town the results, cause then mafia won't know either whether they are ninja or not. But wait... that comes back to the blackmail part. Hmm.... is it wise enough.

Now IS the time to start talking about what to do with ninjas if we catch one n.n

On August 06 2010 23:14 XeliN wrote:
For the record in my brief experience of playing mafia games I know mafia HATE suggestions of mass role claiming, I am far more suspicious of Pyrr's extreme vehemence against the idea than I am of Bills suggestion.

Not entirely sure it would work, in truth I havent actually read the post Bill made yet, but just wanted to say Mafia typically hate the idea of town mass roleclaiming, it forces them into a difficult position where they have to be very careful about what they post//claim.

Although the fact this is a closed setup (role amounts arn't revealed) makes a mass claim strategy flawed from the outset.

Also be dubious of people attempting to cast extreme suspicion on others this early in the game, A good example of such would be:

"I think BM is very likely to live for a couple of days, but if things start going downhill he should be somewhere on the top of our hitlists"

On August 06 2010 23:54 rastaban wrote:



Good catch on the Vigi exception I had forgot about it, I guess I just outed myself as a non-vigi looks like we wait until day 2 to consider this plan.

Also you just ninja'd my post about love1, I now am 100% convinced you are a ninja, don't deny it

On August 07 2010 01:08 rastaban wrote:


Well he can't hit tonight so we don't have to worry about it for now. I would prefer they claim while they have their shot, and then we use it to verify them if their are counter claims. If we wait until after they shoot then we can use this plan until day/night 3

If we just have them claim tomorrow then they can shoot the other claimant that night or if it isn't counter claimed we enact the plan.

On August 07 2010 01:54 larjarse wrote:
TBH rastaban is also looking quite suspicious. He is trying to do so much planning as a townie. I WANT THE MAN DEAD

On August 07 2010 02:11 larjarse wrote:
Valid point, rastaban. I am just G checking you to get some text.. As you can see, I haven't change my vote.

On August 07 2010 01:50 larjarse wrote:


LOLing that noone said anything about this. And once he proclaimed that he is a townie, he was voted by rastaban and chaoser. Suspiciousssoo

On August 06 2010 15:04 larjarse wrote:
Can you stop talking about previous games? It kind of ruins the fun.

On August 06 2010 14:57 larjarse wrote:
I would say BillMurray's concern about not being randomly voted to be killed justifies that he probably isn't a Townie.

On August 06 2010 14:44 larjarse wrote:
BTW this leaves BillMurray and divinek tied at 3 votes each.

On August 07 2010 03:13 chaoser wrote:


Two points though 1) mafia's got a roleblocker so they could just block the vigi that claims. 2) If mafia stack hits on people then the plan might get thrown out of whack.

On August 07 2010 03:44 rastaban wrote:


You only have one pair of chopsticks though (meaning two!), so think carefully before throwing one! (You throw them one at a time)

whoa you are right, I completely misunderstood that line, so yeah indiscriminate killing is a go.

On August 07 2010 05:22 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
ebwop: i should say the other thing sticking out is love1another.

though i think i played a game with him previously and he did the same exact thing, more or less. i'm pretty sure he was town then.

On August 07 2010 08:48 Hesmyrr wrote:
*Look at the pages* *Facepalm* I forgot the ridiculous amount of posts this mafia community can drudge up within a day. Conscious stream of posts coming. This post uses extensive use of links, click underlined words for the referenced post.

Pandain
"Far too early to vote for someone because you think their mafia ... I still believe we should be pressuring every inactive person by threatening to lynch an inactive person."
Nah, the pressuing inactive is good and well, but it doesn't mean you can't display serious suspicions alongside with the pressure. In fact discussing non-random vote on someone can produce far more interesting reads instead of discussing generic policy lynch of lurkers. At current moment I do not see much credience to BM's reasoning of attack though (basically stating manner of his post feels like scum) and claiming 'RVS' to be over could potentially be gambit to put himself in pro-town light. I'll see.

Divinek immediately responding with WIFOM reasoning seems damaging to his case, but I somewhat hesitate on giving it seriously scummy read as it is still early phase of the game and I do not see a way for him to redeem himself against BM's attacks except by continually generating pro-town analysis (which can only be done after certain amount of posts were made).

bumatlarge makes me feel twitchy for some reason. Basic explanatory post for all newbies -> plays devil's advocate to Bill Murray -> votes Divinek. It might as well be prod/pressure vote to see how Bill Murray/Divinek respond though, so I'll read on. I look at the voting thread and see the bandwagon hadn't gathered much steam though, so unsure how commited he was to the vote.
"If you dont know where to start, just speculate about the blue roles and ideas. Scared about that? Give opinions about other ideas! Just pour your heart out and if you are completely honest, you'll gain some cred in the view of the town. EVEN IF YOU ARE A GREENIE, MAKE BELIEVE YOU ARE BLUE."
This advice confuses me, probably because I don't explicitedly understand meaning behind some parts of the sentence

Bill Murray
Awesome, pull a fishing or pressure bandwagon upon someone and immediately reveal your intention even before lots of people had chance to respond! Negative reading here. Only pro-town motive I can see behind the post is that he found what he was looking for in one of the players responses.

youngminii did not vote for Bill Murray even after pointing out above fallacy. Positive reading.

On the other hand rastaban's action is somehow confusing.
Post stating he is going to vote for BM (13:03)
Vote for Bill Murray (13:08)
Post about his vote (13:11)
I don't see point behind 13:11 post besides potential effort to pre-emptively prevent people from having negative reaction to his countervote. Of course considering quality of posts here at this site I am giving it the benefit of the doubt though.

Divinek
"lynch all liars as they say right"
WOH?

rastaban
I am still in favour of leveling serious accusations and putting pressure upon people day 1. Attacking someone doesn't mean the town stops pressuring lurkers. Of course I agree in absense of logical accusation the town should scurry to remove active lurkers, but just saying always lynch lurkers in d1 is far too short-sighted. If we don't get correct reads in day 1, then we just have to improve our scumhunting better.

VayeshMoru
VOTING THREADS ARE SCOURGE OF THE EARTH
Okay, fist-shaking aside. I would really appreciate it if everyone consistently paid attention to the voting patterns and coax player into giving out his/her reasons. Though I agree with the sentiment, I am disposed to view this post in unfavourable light because action of Bill Murray, and in fact everyone, DOES need to be discussed. It kinda feels like attempt to draw some of spotlights away from BM.

Bill Murray
LAWL LAWL LAWL LAWL LAWL
One sentence: above plan only works when all PR actually trust and claim to you, which I highly doubt happening and will result in subsequent town fail. Subsequent votes and display of people's opinions about Bill Murray's action is interesting (including youngminii's too scummy to be scum opinion) I think it would be pretty beneficial when we know BM's flip. We still have two options:do we want to lynch him today, or lynch inactive today and have investigative roles check BM?

Pyrrhuloxia
"Also, 9 people will lie. You forgot ninjas, youngminii. So we will get at least 9 liars to pick through, 3 of which will be ninjas we don't need to kill."
Just curious, why would ninjas bring unnecessary attention to themselves by claiming as PR in possibly mafia-infiltrated network who would be very eager to see blue roles dead lying on the ground?

Oh hey, ninja # gaffe. I am expecting oncoming pointless debate about number of current ninjas. No? I am pleasantly surprised.

I am tired. I will post my opinions about rest of the pages tomorrow.
Also lol love1another.
Vote love1another (Placeholder)

On August 07 2010 09:05 BrownBear wrote:
lajarse could possibly be scum, but let's get everyone talking before we make a concrete decision. We still need to hear from Roffles and a couple others.

On August 07 2010 09:16 Foolishness wrote:
I for god hope Pyrry is going to post his "list" of the 6 mafia (or 4 or 5 or whatever number you're sure on).

And to let you know I have a bunch of posts from mafia of previous games (not necessarily you) who all say something like "I got this mafia list figured out" or "I think I know who's mafia but I'm not going to say unless I really have to". It's pretty common to see mafia members do this.

I look really forward to hearing your response when I post good information about how you're mafia. I also look forward to you getting people to spam away my good post when I do post it (assuming you don't post your list, which, let's face it, you know you won't).

If you're pro-town, you'll post your list and give your reasons. There's no reason to wait. The more information in the open the better we are.