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SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 06 2010 18:30 GMT
#401
The way I see it, we have 2-3 ninjas most likely 3 IF flamewheel is being reasonable. These ninjas will and SHOULD check people the first night and any ninja claims should not be taken seriously at this time unless there is a good reason. Now: we could have a single ninja be our "town" ninja and he will be checked by the DT and protected by the doc. This way we add another power role to our arsenal. This leaves the other 1-2 ninja(s) to be alone for a while. After a mafia member is put up on the chopping block and is about to be killed, there is an opportunity for a ninja to join their side. Thus we get rid of the chaos that is random killing by ninjas within the first few days. The last ninja if there is one will probably end up rolling alone and trying to get the mafia or town side to reveal the name of the other ninja so they can replace them. Of course we can't always trust that would be a good idea. Now here is where this can really benefit us. If one of the ninjas finds the doctor, they should refrain from killing them so that they can threaten the doctor at first and then have them reveal the name of the other ninja so that they can replace them as the town sided ninja. Now the ninja to first want to side with the town will have to play the entire game hoping that the others don't find the doctor but they only have 3 investigations each anyhow and the town-sided ninja will be able to be safe for the first few days giving him an edge. The only way to get a claim with out being roleblocked though is to get a DT mouth. This entire scenario allows us to bring order to this crazy ninja thing and allows us to obtain a power role as an extra. Dealio for day 2?
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 06 2010 18:31 GMT
#402
On August 07 2010 03:25 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 03:24 rastaban wrote:
On August 07 2010 03:17 SouthRawrea wrote:
Actually that is incorrect. I had a post at the very start.


Hey you are right but the day post wasn't even up yet so it doesn't count.


Doesn't matter, the point is if you haven't made a quality post which summarizes your opinions with evidence and is at least 3 lines long, then you haven't really been active.

And sadly South, that means you are, according to my definition, inactive.


Now what?
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 06 2010 18:33 GMT
#403
Oh and if there are 4 ninjas total then :/
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 06 2010 18:36 GMT
#404
Of course as soon as we get a ninja on our side then we'll know exactly how many we have in the game.
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
August 06 2010 18:39 GMT
#405
On August 07 2010 03:30 SouthRawrea wrote:
The way I see it, we have 2-3 ninjas most likely 3 IF flamewheel is being reasonable. These ninjas will and SHOULD check people the first night and any ninja claims should not be taken seriously at this time unless there is a good reason. Now: we could have a single ninja be our "town" ninja and he will be checked by the DT and protected by the doc. This way we add another power role to our arsenal. This leaves the other 1-2 ninja(s) to be alone for a while. After a mafia member is put up on the chopping block and is about to be killed, there is an opportunity for a ninja to join their side. Thus we get rid of the chaos that is random killing by ninjas within the first few days. The last ninja if there is one will probably end up rolling alone and trying to get the mafia or town side to reveal the name of the other ninja so they can replace them. Of course we can't always trust that would be a good idea. Now here is where this can really benefit us. If one of the ninjas finds the doctor, they should refrain from killing them so that they can threaten the doctor at first and then have them reveal the name of the other ninja so that they can replace them as the town sided ninja. Now the ninja to first want to side with the town will have to play the entire game hoping that the others don't find the doctor but they only have 3 investigations each anyhow and the town-sided ninja will be able to be safe for the first few days giving him an edge. The only way to get a claim with out being roleblocked though is to get a DT mouth. This entire scenario allows us to bring order to this crazy ninja thing and allows us to obtain a power role as an extra. Dealio for day 2?


Pyhrr's slip has pretty much confirmed that there are 3 ninjas and that he gets hit tonight. I think we will be looking at only 2 by tomorrow.

I don't understand the whole blackmailing doctors to protect them, they have no way of knowing if the doctor is protecting them or not until they die. Any doctor would immediately agree and then just protect whoever they were going to. until there is only 1 there is no way of knowing if the blocked hit was from the doctor they are blackmailing.

I don't get why you seem to think they will be checking tonight. The ninjas only can check only 3 times, it seems it would be more prudent to wait until later when there are fewer canidates unless they have a really good read on a specific person.

I don't see them indiscriminately killing either, they get 1 shot, and from then on they have to have the town or mafia do their killing for them. They will want to be 100% sure that their target is another ninja or else they will end up being impotent.

Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 06 2010 18:42 GMT
#406
They get two shots btw and Pyrr... nvm not gonna spoil a possible plan of his if the slip was intentional.
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
August 06 2010 18:44 GMT
#407
On August 07 2010 03:42 SouthRawrea wrote:
They get two shots btw and Pyrr... nvm not gonna spoil a possible plan of his if the slip was intentional.


You only have one pair of chopsticks though (meaning two!), so think carefully before throwing one! (You throw them one at a time)

whoa you are right, I completely misunderstood that line, so yeah indiscriminate killing is a go.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 06 2010 18:48 GMT
#408
And they get it back if they hit a ninja. You see after the first few days where they might use a check or two, we'll probably have a confirmed or two as well and they'll have suspects. One or two of the ninjas will probably use a KP.
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
August 06 2010 19:54 GMT
#409
Well this day went up in the air extremely quickly.

I don't think we should Lynch BM based on his stupid mass roleclaiming plan. This is something that is pretty par for the course for him and I don't see it as such a huge tell or anything that he's scummy.

Not really a fan of the vigi claim plan either because it requires 2 nights at least and a good "guess" to get our confirmed townie in a good manner of time all while hoping Mafia doesn't attempt to confuse the hell out of us.

I personally think it'll be easier to make a plan up when Night 1 finishes. I'm still keeping my place holder vote on until something better comes up.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 06 2010 20:05 GMT
#410
I keep deleting what I type lol because I think what if Pyrrhusloxia is really a ninja, we should get him lynched so our future Town-sided ninja doesn't waste a kill. Then I think oh shit what if he's a veteran trying to get cleared for tomorrow. Then I think what if he's a red role. Then I read the day post and wonder. WTF is a bus driver ninja and does it count in the number of ninjas? If it does and Pyrr's leak was real, he should be removed from the game which he is not. So... he's lying or the bus driver ninja doesn't count/ isn't real. Time for PMing questions to flamewheel.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 06 2010 20:08 GMT
#411
Nvm I realize that the day 1 post is a joke.
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
August 06 2010 20:18 GMT
#412
The only thing really sticking out to me is the strange and over-reacting response to BM's plan by DTA and Pyrr.

Bill Murray's roleclaim was horrible, since there are concealed counts. In fact, it is not only stupid but it is so entirely transparently stupid that I'm sure BM knew it was bad when he posted it. So why did he post it then?

Because mafia love to shoot down stupid townie plans, since it makes them appear pro-town. The difficulty is that good town players will also shoot down those same plans, since they want to win the game and all that.

Right now anyone voting for BM is either jumping the gun or behaving suspiciously.
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
August 06 2010 20:18 GMT
#413
On August 07 2010 05:05 SouthRawrea wrote:
I keep deleting what I type lol because I think what if Pyrrhusloxia is really a ninja, we should get him lynched so our future Town-sided ninja doesn't waste a kill. Then I think oh shit what if he's a veteran trying to get cleared for tomorrow. Then I think what if he's a red role. Then I read the day post and wonder. WTF is a bus driver ninja and does it count in the number of ninjas? If it does and Pyrr's leak was real, he should be removed from the game which he is not. So... he's lying or the bus driver ninja doesn't count/ isn't real. Time for PMing questions to flamewheel.

I am not the holder of five different roles, fyi.
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
August 06 2010 20:22 GMT
#414
ebwop: i should say the other thing sticking out is love1another.

though i think i played a game with him previously and he did the same exact thing, more or less. i'm pretty sure he was town then.
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
August 06 2010 20:24 GMT
#415
On August 07 2010 05:05 SouthRawrea wrote:
I keep deleting what I type lol because I think what if Pyrrhusloxia is really a ninja, we should get him lynched so our future Town-sided ninja doesn't waste a kill. Then I think oh shit what if he's a veteran trying to get cleared for tomorrow. Then I think what if he's a red role. Then I read the day post and wonder. WTF is a bus driver ninja and does it count in the number of ninjas? If it does and Pyrr's leak was real, he should be removed from the game which he is not. So... he's lying or the bus driver ninja doesn't count/ isn't real. Time for PMing questions to flamewheel.


nah, lynching a Ninja is a waste of a lynch. The other Ninjas are going to want to throw their chopsticks at him anyway since that's how they win. Might as well let them do it since there's no guarantee we're gonna get a town-Ninja.
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
August 06 2010 20:26 GMT
#416
On August 07 2010 05:05 SouthRawrea wrote:
I keep deleting what I type lol because I think what if Pyrrhusloxia is really a ninja, we should get him lynched so our future Town-sided ninja doesn't waste a kill. Then I think oh shit what if he's a veteran trying to get cleared for tomorrow. Then I think what if he's a red role. Then I read the day post and wonder. WTF is a bus driver ninja and does it count in the number of ninjas? If it does and Pyrr's leak was real, he should be removed from the game which he is not. So... he's lying or the bus driver ninja doesn't count/ isn't real. Time for PMing questions to flamewheel.

I've noticed Divinek talking about how the Ninja would be breaking rules and ruining the game and would be removed from the game if he teamed up with town.

I've also now noticed you talking about how if I merely posted the number of ninjas in the thread correctly I should be removed from the game.

There's nothing about this in the rules description for Ninja as far as I can tell. Perhaps you two got some stern words from flamewheel in the role pm?
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
August 06 2010 20:27 GMT
#417
On August 07 2010 05:24 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 05:05 SouthRawrea wrote:
I keep deleting what I type lol because I think what if Pyrrhusloxia is really a ninja, we should get him lynched so our future Town-sided ninja doesn't waste a kill. Then I think oh shit what if he's a veteran trying to get cleared for tomorrow. Then I think what if he's a red role. Then I read the day post and wonder. WTF is a bus driver ninja and does it count in the number of ninjas? If it does and Pyrr's leak was real, he should be removed from the game which he is not. So... he's lying or the bus driver ninja doesn't count/ isn't real. Time for PMing questions to flamewheel.


nah, lynching a Ninja is a waste of a lynch. The other Ninjas are going to want to throw their chopsticks at him anyway since that's how they win. Might as well let them do it since there's no guarantee we're gonna get a town-Ninja.


This is correct, no need to waste a lynch, if we need to kill a ninja just say who he is in thread. The other ninjas will take care of the rest.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
August 06 2010 20:34 GMT
#418
Does no one else have a guess on who VM is other than Chez 2.0? I don't think Chez would risk permaban to have two characters in one game.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 06 2010 20:34 GMT
#419
On August 07 2010 05:26 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 05:05 SouthRawrea wrote:
I keep deleting what I type lol because I think what if Pyrrhusloxia is really a ninja, we should get him lynched so our future Town-sided ninja doesn't waste a kill. Then I think oh shit what if he's a veteran trying to get cleared for tomorrow. Then I think what if he's a red role. Then I read the day post and wonder. WTF is a bus driver ninja and does it count in the number of ninjas? If it does and Pyrr's leak was real, he should be removed from the game which he is not. So... he's lying or the bus driver ninja doesn't count/ isn't real. Time for PMing questions to flamewheel.

I've noticed Divinek talking about how the Ninja would be breaking rules and ruining the game and would be removed from the game if he teamed up with town.

I've also now noticed you talking about how if I merely posted the number of ninjas in the thread correctly I should be removed from the game.

There's nothing about this in the rules description for Ninja as far as I can tell. Perhaps you two got some stern words from flamewheel in the role pm?


You mis-read my post. WHEN THE NINJA WINS HE IS REMOVED FROM THE GAME. THUS IF BUS DRIVER NINJA AND VER OR W.E WERE REALLY NINJAS YOU'D BE GONE CUZ U'D HAVE WON. lol. Please keep in mind that I didn't understand that the day 1 post was a joke at the time i wrote this.
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 06 2010 20:45 GMT
#420
The ninja should be able to whatever it takes to kill other ninjas. If that involves finding and using blues in exchange for a free DT, I think it would be reasonable. Hes still trying to win.
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