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On August 07 2010 01:50 larjarse wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2010 23:18 love1another wrote:I'm a confirmed townie please. Don't kill me plz  LOLing that noone said anything about this. And once he proclaimed that he is a townie, he was voted by rastaban and chaoser. Suspiciousssoo
Hmmm you might want to try and follow the thread a little instead of making up facts. I already commented on this.
On August 06 2010 23:51 rastaban wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2010 23:18 love1another wrote:I'm a confirmed townie please. Don't kill me plz LOL, you post this as your only content and then immediate go and vote for me for putting pressure on you to at least be active..... very scummy. I want more than a one line claiming confirmed (You aren't confirmed no one is right now!). Add something, review my plan and post your thoughts, even if you disagree it can still give us insight into you and help improve the plan or scrap it if it is bad.
Also if you look at the vote times I voted him before he had posted that, in fact he only responded with that one liner after I voted for him and proceeded to immediately vote for me.
You wouldn't be trying to defend a scum buddy who is under fire would you?
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If he flips red, I am coming after you next larjarse. if you are mafia you better make sure your buddies hit me tonight :D
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On August 07 2010 02:11 larjarse wrote:
Valid point, rastaban. I am just G checking you to get some text.. As you can see, I haven't change my vote.
At least you are posting, too many inactives right now, I saw on the vote list tree.hugger found another one who hasn't posted yet. I need to be careful though, I don't want to be spammy either as i hate that. Hopefully most of my points have had content regarding my plan or viewing others.
To help make this post relevant here is the updated list of inactives:
0 posts:
Roffles
Hesmyrr
Infunblahblah
SouthRawrea
Artanis[xp]
Small 1 liners:
Laan
On August 06 2010 15:03 Iaaan wrote:
Hi guys. I haven't read any posts past page 10 yet, but I will probably tomorrow, its late today :/ All I have to add right now is, we really need to be cutting down on the spam as townies, I'm sure I don't need to explain how spam makes it easier for the mafia to get by just by posting BS, thus letting them hide amongst the spam. That is all.
Love1another
On August 06 2010 23:18 love1another wrote:I'm a confirmed townie please. Don't kill me plz
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On August 07 2010 03:17 SouthRawrea wrote:
Actually that is incorrect. I had a post at the very start.
Hey you are right but the day post wasn't even up yet so it doesn't count.
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On August 07 2010 03:13 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 02:26 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Okay. Vigi should claim Day 2 IMO because he can't use his night kill til night 2. The vigi can openly suggest his target, meds protect target. If 2 people die that night, and dude is protected from a hit then BAM, we have a huge circle formed with meds confirming the vigi, DT's can openly claim to vigi or use a mouth, Bus Driver should stay hidden I feel...except to maybe the meds.
And if it is a mafia ploy? We'd have netted two mafia. The fake vigi claimer, and the dude who was hit by the vigi because he would have to have been protected. All medics should protect the guy getting vigi'd so they get the protection message, or mafia would have to use all KP to stop the plan, GIVING us quite a few more days... Two points though 1) mafia's got a roleblocker so they could just block the vigi that claims. 2) If mafia stack hits on people then the plan might get thrown out of whack.
1. if the vigi is being bus driven the RB won't stop him
2. yeah I need to dissect the new additions it might work but it makes the plan more complicated so there could be more holes. Thinking this through to see what could be exploited.
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On August 07 2010 03:30 SouthRawrea wrote:
The way I see it, we have 2-3 ninjas most likely 3 IF flamewheel is being reasonable. These ninjas will and SHOULD check people the first night and any ninja claims should not be taken seriously at this time unless there is a good reason. Now: we could have a single ninja be our "town" ninja and he will be checked by the DT and protected by the doc. This way we add another power role to our arsenal. This leaves the other 1-2 ninja(s) to be alone for a while. After a mafia member is put up on the chopping block and is about to be killed, there is an opportunity for a ninja to join their side. Thus we get rid of the chaos that is random killing by ninjas within the first few days. The last ninja if there is one will probably end up rolling alone and trying to get the mafia or town side to reveal the name of the other ninja so they can replace them. Of course we can't always trust that would be a good idea. Now here is where this can really benefit us. If one of the ninjas finds the doctor, they should refrain from killing them so that they can threaten the doctor at first and then have them reveal the name of the other ninja so that they can replace them as the town sided ninja. Now the ninja to first want to side with the town will have to play the entire game hoping that the others don't find the doctor but they only have 3 investigations each anyhow and the town-sided ninja will be able to be safe for the first few days giving him an edge. The only way to get a claim with out being roleblocked though is to get a DT mouth. This entire scenario allows us to bring order to this crazy ninja thing and allows us to obtain a power role as an extra. Dealio for day 2?
Pyhrr's slip has pretty much confirmed that there are 3 ninjas and that he gets hit tonight. I think we will be looking at only 2 by tomorrow.
I don't understand the whole blackmailing doctors to protect them, they have no way of knowing if the doctor is protecting them or not until they die. Any doctor would immediately agree and then just protect whoever they were going to. until there is only 1 there is no way of knowing if the blocked hit was from the doctor they are blackmailing.
I don't get why you seem to think they will be checking tonight. The ninjas only can check only 3 times, it seems it would be more prudent to wait until later when there are fewer canidates unless they have a really good read on a specific person.
I don't see them indiscriminately killing either, they get 1 shot, and from then on they have to have the town or mafia do their killing for them. They will want to be 100% sure that their target is another ninja or else they will end up being impotent.
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On August 07 2010 03:42 SouthRawrea wrote:
They get two shots btw and Pyrr... nvm not gonna spoil a possible plan of his if the slip was intentional.
You only have one pair of chopsticks though (meaning two!), so think carefully before throwing one! (You throw them one at a time)
whoa you are right, I completely misunderstood that line, so yeah indiscriminate killing is a go.
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On August 07 2010 05:24 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 05:05 SouthRawrea wrote:
I keep deleting what I type lol because I think what if Pyrrhusloxia is really a ninja, we should get him lynched so our future Town-sided ninja doesn't waste a kill. Then I think oh shit what if he's a veteran trying to get cleared for tomorrow. Then I think what if he's a red role. Then I read the day post and wonder. WTF is a bus driver ninja and does it count in the number of ninjas? If it does and Pyrr's leak was real, he should be removed from the game which he is not. So... he's lying or the bus driver ninja doesn't count/ isn't real. Time for PMing questions to flamewheel. nah, lynching a Ninja is a waste of a lynch. The other Ninjas are going to want to throw their chopsticks at him anyway since that's how they win. Might as well let them do it since there's no guarantee we're gonna get a town- Ninja.
This is correct, no need to waste a lynch, if we need to kill a ninja just say who he is in thread. The other ninjas will take care of the rest.
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Here is the updated list of inactives:
0 posts:
Roffles
Hesmyrr
Artanis[xp]
Small 1 liners:
Laan
+ Show Spoiler +On August 06 2010 15:03 Iaaan wrote:
Hi guys. I haven't read any posts past page 10 yet, but I will probably tomorrow, its late today :/ All I have to add right now is, we really need to be cutting down on the spam as townies, I'm sure I don't need to explain how spam makes it easier for the mafia to get by just by posting BS, thus letting them hide amongst the spam. That is all.
Love1another
+ Show Spoiler +On August 06 2010 23:18 love1another wrote:I'm a confirmed townie please. Don't kill me plz
Posted substantially since the last list:
+ Show Spoiler +SouthRawrea
iNfuNdiBuLuM (sorry about spelling your name wrong last time it was a copy paste error I didn't notice.)
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On August 07 2010 08:05 Pandain wrote:
How about we in the thread just say "okay, now all you people visit THIS GUY's" house. the people don't even have to claim. Than the watcher can meet up with the tracker and we have a town circle already. With no suicide bomber, we have no risk either.
OMFG WAS THIS AN ACTUAL IDEA!?!? That might be good??????
I know, I'm scared too O.o
Comments?
Hmm it almost might would work...
What the watcher though doesn't know who is who... the mafia can send their roleblocker or framer that night and now they are listed as verified. at first I thought mafia could hit him but the watcher would get the name of one of the mafia so it wouldn't be beneficial.
Hmm I don't straight up disagree it might be an option but needs thought out a little more... Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
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On August 07 2010 08:23 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 08:13 rastaban wrote:On August 07 2010 08:05 Pandain wrote:
How about we in the thread just say "okay, now all you people visit THIS GUY's" house. the people don't even have to claim. Than the watcher can meet up with the tracker and we have a town circle already. With no suicide bomber, we have no risk either.
OMFG WAS THIS AN ACTUAL IDEA!?!? That might be good??????
I know, I'm scared too O.o
Comments? Hmm it almost might would work... What the watcher though doesn't know who is who... the mafia can send their roleblocker or framer that night and now they are listed as verified. at first I thought mafia could hit him but the watcher would get the name of one of the mafia so it wouldn't be beneficial. Hmm I don't straight up disagree it might be an option but needs thought out a little more... Anyone else have any thoughts on this? Oh good point, they don't have to send a hit. But that just gives us a list of people confirmed to be red or blue which should still help, I think.
Yeah I would say a tracker/watcher for a red is a good trade.
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I was thinking if we sent everyone there it would be a larger pool, if it is just watcher, tracker as was edited after then yes it is probably a good idea.
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On August 07 2010 08:45 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Problem: what if THIS GUY is a ninja? The watcher could watch the ninja's house, I think. But the tracker wouldn't show up, I think. This is my interpretation of the rules.
no the Tracker just wouldn't know if he left the house or if a ninja investigated/killed him
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EBWOP
and the watcher wouldn't know if a ninja investigated/killed him
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uhg, gone for a few hours and there is so much catching up to do. I need a while to let all this course through my brain before responding.
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On August 07 2010 12:50 tree.hugger wrote:
Interesting developments so far. I'm not one for plans, and Pandain pm'd me his idea (along with several other people, he said) and I told him I didn't like it because roleblockers and framers could get in with all of the other roles and mess stuff up.
Some of the obstacles that I brought up in pm's have been addressed, but I still am not really sure how this plan intends to deal with all of the counter-claims that always come out. The watcher is going to have a hard time figuring out which roles are actually in the game, which roles we have one of, and which roles we have two of, ect. DT's then need to check things out.
But if the mafia claims DT, then we'll just be feeding them the names of blue players, which is dangerous. And we can't verify people without the DT's. We might have two, one, or none of them. I have no idea.
I think this is a good idea in principle, but there are some potentially fatal kinks, and I'm not sure how I'd address them.
If we do this plan keep it simple. Watcher and Tracker, any more just hurts the plan and puts more at risk. Think like Day 9 says. You don't need a big lead, go for the sure small lead it will add up over the game. We don't need a miracle plan to confirm all the townies we get the watcher and and tracker teamed up and we have already made the town much stronger. we can then build off this, but if we get greedy then it makes things too dangerous.
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headed to bed, I may only be on sporadically tomorrow do to a family part but I will try and stay in touch. If you definitely need a response on something PM me so I don't miss it if I have to do some skimming.
Night all.
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+ Show Spoiler +On August 08 2010 10:09 rastaban wrote:
Votes for Bill Murray (6)
larjarse
Pyrrhuloxia
DarthThienAn
love1another
chaoser
youngminii
Votes for Divinek (1)
bumatlarge
Votes for youngminii (1)
Jayme
Votes for love1another (10)
rastaban
KF91
Hesmyrr
SouthRawrea
Bill Murray
LSB
Foolishness
Divinek
Amber[LighT]
Roffles
Votes for Artanis[Xp] (1)
tree.hugger
Votes for BrownBear (2)
~OpZ~
zeks
Votes for Iaaan (1)
BrownBear
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Artanis[Xp]
Votes for Roffles (3)
Misder
Pandain
iNfuNdiBuLuM
Votes for Iaaan (1)
VayeshMoru
Votes for Chaoser (1)
XeliN
Votes for Double Lynch (2/26)
Pandain
Bill Murray
In danger of modkill (need to vote) (4)
Chezinu
Iaaan
Grrrr, I missed Chezinu's vote on Roffles... 5 minutes before VayeshMoru.
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Also I hate that I did it just before the official count, what a waste of time  Really though I just wanted people to realize the vote is between
Love1another (10)
Bill Murray (6)
Roffles (4)
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