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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
On August 19 2010 05:30 Ace wrote: The main thing I don't like about those formula based models are that you have to have some really ridiculous constants. No detectives, ignore player interaction and skill, assume random lynching and still you'll end up with misleading conclusions. 4 scum vs 12 innocents with no detective and majority of the players in the game being top level players (this means aware of meta and most strategies) will result in lots and lots of losses for the town. How different is a game without any power roles? obviously the town would be at a disadvantage but you could just shift the balance. According to the link provided all card game versions include a DT role. Is this because it facilitates more action? At first I thought a pure game would require more analysis but thinking about it for a while it seems that maybe the roles actually increase the skill cap be weighting choices, so that the mafia wants to snipe blues, while the town realizing the advantage of such hits will try and decipher who benefits mosts from certain hits. I think this may be seen in the hit/medic cycle. With the medic trying to read who the mafia wants to hit, the mafia trying to hit someone not protected because of this while looking for the medic. I guess that is why some of you were talking about using more skill roles (where you make choices) and less roles like a vet that are just automatic. | ||
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
Hey I am a hard hitting, manly, zergling now so watch who you call cute or I will have to nibble off your zealot toes! :D Edit -- meant to edit my first post but quoted instead. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Games where it's just strictly town vs scum require some of the same kind of skill in a game with Power Roles but instead of mixing analysis based strategy with your gut, or player interactions with information revealed from power roles and death you're stuck with pure player on player analysis. Great if you want to get good at reading people but terrible if you want to see the game as a series of connected events. The card game versions usually refer to live play and live play is vastly different from online play. I think part of the reason detectives are always included there is because it's simple to use, adds a decent strategy to the game and even new players can understand it. Explaining Watchers and Trackers to newer players online isn't easy at first, so imagine how it is live v_v. Plus Mafia is a time consuming game. It's so much easier to do medic/dt/town vs Scum setups in 30 minutes and run multiple games per session. As for the mafia wanting to snipe blues that is a good point. In fact one of the best things about having power roles is that mafia really have to weigh killing power roles against killing known or almost obvious pro-town players. This is one of the reasons why medics usually have a sticky time in protecting people once a power role gets outed. As you can see, this is also why some people fear outing Power Roles and why Scum love tricking the Town into doing it ^_^ | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
I do my short posts on an itouch, using the Opera Mini Web Browser | ||
Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
XXII Night 1 Life Aquatic Mini Night 1 PYP 1 Shot at Night 2(Medic Prot), Dved Day 2 Bang Bang! Night 0 XXVII Survived! Team Melee Mini Mafia Night 1 PYP 2 Night 2 RAM2 Night 1 I was Mafia once and survived(Win!). Also survived in Rotk, but it doesn't really count as there was no mafia KP(leaders) So that makes me 7-1 Death/Survival rate. Five out of those Eight games I died night 1, two of the remaining three I died Night 2. Yet I keep coming back for more....  My game stats: Night 1 62.5% Night 2 25% Survival 12.5% | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On September 07 2010 09:01 Radfield wrote: Deaths: XXII Night 1 Life Aquatic Mini Night 1 PYP 1 Shot at Night 2(Medic Prot), Dved Day 2 Bang Bang! Night 0 XXVII Survived! Team Melee Mini Mafia Night 1 PYP 2 Night 2 RAM2 Night 1 I was Mafia once and survived(Win!). Also survived in Rotk, but it doesn't really count as there was no mafia KP(leaders) So that makes me 7-1 Death/Survival rate. Five out of those Eight games I died night 1, two of the remaining three I died Night 2. Yet I keep coming back for more.... My game stats: Night 1 62.5% Night 2 25% Survival 12.5% XD Just like me in RL mafia! Maybe you should be a bit less pro town? | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On September 07 2010 09:03 LSB wrote: XD Just like me in RL mafia! Maybe you should be a bit less pro town? I know, but I just can't help myself. | ||
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
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SiNiquity
United States734 Posts
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
But a large game would be nice | ||
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On September 13 2010 01:35 BrownBear wrote: Need more players for XXXI! :D Why the heck aren't you advertising in general or sports and games then? You can't expect to find many more players here. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
Is there a way to make PM's send me an email? | ||
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
On September 18 2010 02:48 YellowInk wrote: Dumb/random question. Is there a way to make PM's send me an email? I couldn't locate anything under profile, but maybe one of the TL powerusers knows how to set something like that up. I almost need the reverse, I check my TL PMs way more often than any of my email addresses. | ||
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On September 18 2010 03:18 rastaban wrote: I couldn't locate anything under profile, but maybe one of the TL powerusers knows how to set something like that up. I almost need the reverse, I check my TL PMs way more often than any of my email addresses. oh god the latter would be soooo good | ||
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Protactinium
Canada550 Posts
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