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On July 17 2010 11:32 Pandain wrote: Vote: Pandain 4. You cannot vote for yourself or anyone dead or outside the game. | ||
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and i would think in any mafia game ever you're not allowed to edit | ||
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On July 18 2010 04:30 Pandain wrote: So how do we know whos mafia? well personally i just use my mafia detecting hacks, you should probably read through a previous game or something if you have no idea what is going on | ||
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So the only way to get substance out of these people is to call them out and pressure vote them. | ||
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On July 18 2010 06:20 BloodyC0bbler wrote: You then still have to decide who RNG's the name off said list, but not a bad idea. Also gives a better chance at hitting a red. well since you cant trust any one person to use a rng maybe we could get a bunch of people to use one and whoever gets the most votes randomly generated on them? lol i dont know how much different that would be from just normally voting or if the reds could influence that just the same but yeah. | ||
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On July 18 2010 08:03 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: RNG lynch is dumb because you have more of a chance to land on a townie, and then he could be a helpful townie. if we lynch an inactive we're killing someone who probably would not have helped us anyway however, i don't want to lynch someone that would just get modkilled since that's obviously a waste. Bill, how many votes can someone miss before they get zapped? you can only miss one vote then you diez | ||
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On July 18 2010 10:13 SiNiquity wrote: :rolleyes: inactive jumps into the game [after a mafia PM'd him to start posting and get off the inactive list, mm?], says nothing, and votes to kill a contributor. I'm not sure I like it. The inactives will get modkilled, no one gets lynched, the mafia kills 2 more people, and then we're back at square one, no? seeing as we're going on no information the odds arent in towns favour to hit a random person without any information to back that hit. The reds are going to kill 2 town anyways, might as well not give them good odds of getting another one for free. ##vote abstain | ||
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On July 18 2010 10:43 Misder wrote: ##Vote: hyperbola Sketchy to me. He says hes active, but says he only posted because he does want to be killed. And hyperbola's reason to lynch SiNiquity is horrible lol. I was actually going to abstain, but hyperbola's post annoyed me lol. I actually have to really agree now that this has been pointed out. This is his first and only post, and it is posted in a manner to perhaps put himself just above the threshold of inactivity. And he then votes for someone for contributing and trying to help the town too much. Not to mention the post he's quoting as his 'reason' for voting is the very one that points out his own activity. Perhaps we can then put some more pressure on his inactive ass to give us any more substance. ##unvote ##vote hyperbola | ||
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On July 18 2010 12:30 tree.hugger wrote: And this bandwagon against Hyperbola is just dumb. ## Vote Laxercannon why is it dumb | ||
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On July 18 2010 13:45 tree.hugger wrote: The reason it was introduced in the first place what completely ridiculous. Nothing smart about any of it. We should lynch people for good reasons, not dumb ones. I'm still looking for more nominations for people to lynch. I think those three are a good start. Time to pick one, yes? How about I PM five people a list of the candidates in order, and then someone in the thread will choose a number from 1-3? but WHY was it ridiculous, WHY was it not smart, WHY were the reasons dumb. You might as well have not posted as there was no substance to what you just said | ||
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I dont feel he really defended himself well at all | ||
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sure it could likely be a bad townie just throwing around baseless accusations but it could also be a retarded red just doing something without thinking. So im kinda worried that either BC doesnt know how to read or he's playing very sketchy to me and overly defending someone with two posts who has made them both pretty poorly? and then tree hugger goes on again to say we had no reason blah blah i could say we have a reason and look i didnt post any substance either. i gave valid justification for my vote, which has probably more backing than most votes in this thread. He's the best target for me since he's been just active enough to be considered not inactive and his initial posts were retarded, i usually find that to be good enough for the RVS. i think that even if he ends up town based on the quality and lack of his posts so far it'd be better for town if he died anyway, i havent seen to much in the light of better candidates yet but when you guys vote for people ill be sure to not quote the reason and say you had no reason too  | ||
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On July 19 2010 01:33 Pandain wrote: Well I think BC is just being cautios, that's all. I mean he did bring up a good point(intentionally or unintentionally) in that Opz could very well be more mafia-esque than Hyperbola. However, now one of the reasons I am sticking with Hyperbola is that I don't want Darth hanged lol i agree with the sentiment. It just irritates me when people blatantly demonstrate they havent read the thread. Unless they are saying my reasons are so poor they might as well be no reasons! Which i firmly dont believe, especially in the RVS like what the fuck, how sure can you be of anything with such little information? the thing with opz is at least he is posting, it is clear we will be able to get plenty out of him. So it will become clearer as time goes on if we can get useful analysis out of him. Hyperbola straight up told me he's 'quiet' which is NO good in a game like this. So i think that's more than enough reason to pile on top of what already was said to make him more red like to me for today. unless he actually comes out and starts posting more which is really what im hoping for | ||
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On July 19 2010 02:06 Hyperbola wrote: Alright guys take a breather... sheesh. Especially you Divinek: You seem pretty adamant about accusing me for like a quick post I made a while back. Look dude, I'll spill the beans, my post against Sinequity wasn't serious. I still can't believe you haven't caught on to that by now. I accuse him for making a long post just for fun and I also didn't feel like abstaining. I also like being quiet and examining things behind the lines. What you're gonna crucify me every game for not posting often? I'm keeping my vote on Sinequity as a placeholder, mmkay? cool. You realize it can be hard to interpret jokes through text, and my first assumption is to assume you're retarded cause that is often the safer assumption based on the vast populace of the internet. And you're damn right im going to crucify you for not posting often! how else will people get any info. Place holder votes are also lol when half the time they always seem to stay on that placeholder... | ||
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On July 19 2010 02:24 citi.zen wrote: The "OMG if you voted for hyperbola you have some explaining to do" post strikes me as the kind of thing that will sidetrack discussion for a long time. I don't like it. especially since i already explained when i voted! | ||
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On July 19 2010 08:43 Pandain wrote: Haha, know what you mean. I'm torn too. However, I'm leaning towards trying to get out by "showing a last act of goodness" to convince others he wasn't mafia all along. All I know is that if he isn't mafia I'm going to be a sad panda. dont feel too sad sometimes people have to learn to not play bad the hard way, but we shall see | ||
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On July 19 2010 09:59 SouthRawrea wrote: My take on this is we should take it easy Day 1 and just individually take note of inactives/suspicious individuals until we get our power roles in action tonight. Sure we may end up lynching one of the Reds and it does indeed help to lynch scummy players in order to lessen the number suspects in a future lynch but Random Lynching on Day 1 also allows Reds to gain a foothold in swaying the opinions of players in a future 50/50 situation (ex: Player X is active since Day 1 and seems to be pro-town but is in actuality a mafia. Both him and a Player Y, a cop, counter-claim each other with conflicting reports several days later and the town is given a 50/50 shot at lynching the right person but the other cop hasn't been speaking as much in fear of revealing the fact that he is a cop to the mafia through unintentional, implicit clues. The rest of the village trusts Player X because he seems to be more Pro-Town than Player Y.) and we risk the possibility of lynching one of our power roles early on. Just my 2 cents on why I voted to abstain from lynching. it has been beaten to death why lynching someone is better than not lynching them. Your scenario doesnt entirely make sense as to why you would abstain though. Abstain or not someone can be active and be able to influence others. The only real power role we have to 'unleash' on night one is one random dt check and it's not like he's gonna come out and claim on day 2, so what should we all not vote on day 2 as well? Someone could gain this foothold you speak of on day 2 as well. Though i dont really see how that can be affected by your abstaining...I think you not voting hurts more than anything because people arent being forced to do anything. I just dont see where you're going with this at all. But you must vote for someone so we know what you really feel. Abstaining gives almost no information when voting habits can be so crucial in finding information. | ||
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On July 20 2010 01:34 Roffles wrote: Nah OpZ, not just one shitty post by BrownBear. Nearly all his posts are shitty. Don't really wanna dig up the post, but I do recall him voting first, then saying "I'm gonna go read". Like what the hell is that? I'm gonna blindly vote, then read, then afterwards he just makes it even better by saying, "Oh, I could change my vote. But nahhhhh" yeah read the thread but didnt contribute anything and based on what his posts said he's probably worse than inactive at this point cause he actually voted i see people say that alot 'oh shit rl busy im gonna read thread and post some stuff' then they dont, they just say this to take focus off them and possible votes im for sure throwing my vote on him as soon as day comes so he can hopefully be forced to actually post something | ||
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On July 20 2010 08:04 SouthRawrea wrote: Talking at night is stupid D:. It takes away from what the game is supposed to be. the game is whatever we make it so stfu | ||
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On July 20 2010 08:45 Pandain wrote: Hmm... also add to this that I had expressed doubts about Hyperbola. It's possible they just wanted to be sure due to the fact that it was possible youngmini was going to be lynched. This, of course, assumes that They Knew Hyperbola was not mafia. They WERE mafia. They knew Youngmini was not mafia. And Finally, believed that Youngmini had a chance of being lynched. (Italicized because if any of them are true, they are ALL true) Of the two who voted for Hypterbola (Brownbear and Bumat Large), I would say brownbear is the mroe likely. BumatLarge's post:Look! I can change the text! is far more long and detailed than BB's. Finally, his post seems more pro town than mafia(of course he could be lying. Dang this game is hard.) Compare this with BB's post, which as others have noted is very suscipious and fallible. A WARNING TO ALL THOSE WHO WOULD BANDWAGON: Let us not forget the tragedy of Hyperbola. I was one of those who jumped on him for a seemingly bad post. It is as likely as Hyperbola's that BB's post was taken out of context/missing information relavant. Just as Hyperbola's post was actually joking, BB could have followed this thread the whole time and merely missed one page or so. If he felt he was in danger of being modkilled, he justifiably could have quickly voted for Hyperbola since the previous pages had led him to believe that he was the mafia. Friends, let us use calm, analyatical data, not quick rash accusations. Let us divine from the words of everyone here, factor in every piece of evidence. If your going to vote for BB, be sure, very sure. you have to remember that good mafia will be better at looking pro town than bad townies, it's alot more often that bad townies are the people that come off as scummy...but that could lead you into wifom stuff, it's just that you need to be able to discern each players actions in a way that it becomes easier to see if they're acting on more information than they should have. also since you're new you're verrrry unlikely to be the night hit, but who knows maybe you're helping too much! Might be fun to try and guess at who the night hit is gonna be but that can go horribly wrong i surpose. And hyperbolas post wasnt seemingly bad, they were terrible. As a brave Ace once said if you die early in a mafia game you're playing bad. Still havent seen brown bear round these parts yet hum hum, so yeah im pretty sure until he starts postin | ||
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On July 19 2010 02:07 Roffles wrote: OpZ just has that sort of playstyle. Comes in, makes a couple accusations, then starts some shit. At least it demonstrates he's here. Gonna unabstain now that I've read the thread. ##Unvote: Abstain ##Vote: youngminii Not voting simply lets scum get off a free shot. Don't see the real reasoning behind not voting. Shit, I'd rather RNG someone than let em off the hook for Day 1. Anyways, I'd refrain from voting for someone who hasn't posted yet. Chances are they'll be modkilled within the next couple of days anyways. Why waste a lynch on someone who's gonna die later on? so your reasoning behind your vote was that you read the thread. I see... That's so..so..inconclusive! On July 20 2010 01:34 Roffles wrote: Nah OpZ, not just one shitty post by BrownBear. Nearly all his posts are shitty. Don't really wanna dig up the post, but I do recall him voting first, then saying "I'm gonna go read". Like what the hell is that? I'm gonna blindly vote, then read, then afterwards he just makes it even better by saying, "Oh, I could change my vote. But nahhhhh" but i did like this post, or at least the direction it was heading. But it does seem more like taking a jab than really trying to do anything constructive. You havent really been helping the town much at all yet. But we shall see this coming day, i gots my eye on you you have me so torn sir, your lack of content yet but hurts my decision on anything | ||
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On July 20 2010 13:44 Subversion wrote: Hey man, congratulations, that's really exciting news Wish you all the best On point, I was also in agreement about the weirdness of Foolishness's post, but now he's dead. Seems at the moment, mafia aren't making too many mistakes. Not sure about the block of votes for Hyperbola, seems if it was a scum-instigated thing they could have easily spread it out more? Might have just been a bunch of townies jumping on the bandwagon. Although, I would guess there's a good chance there's one or two mafia in there, who saw an opportunity to jump on a townie vote. almost certainly at least one of them was red, outside of all of the evidence that somewhat points to that, the odds are in favour. But it's beyond the point to just go 'oh well there's probably a red in there somewhere' in fact in kind of looks red to say that. Should probably find a good reason to pick someone and explain it | ||
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##vote brown bear this has already thus been thoroughly justified and i hope i need not repeat myself in this post | ||
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On July 20 2010 15:32 BrownBear wrote: 1) legitimate problem, and it's true that GFs tend to pick vet a lot. 2) I have to disagree with you on this one. I see vet as extremely useful as a confirmed townie. As an example, let me talk about a game I used to play a long time ago (back on squidi.net, if anyone still remembers that site), that was very similar to mafia. There was a role in this game called War Hero, who was basically a townie confirmed at the start who could be used as a rallying point for townies. Only problem was, he died a LOT, because mafia would stack KP on him (rightfully so, recognizing how dangerous he was). Then one host mixed it up a bit, and gave him 2 nightlives. The next game, he singlehandedly won it for town, because Mafia was suddenly not willing to blow that much KP just to kill one target, and he was able to rally enough town around him to form a town circle larger than the mafia team (which usually means mafia is screwed, unless they get really lucky). Veterans exist as meatshields. People tend to play them as "they exist in secrecy, so maybe mafia will target them instead of another blue role". Sure, that CAN work, but in a setup this open, I think it's a far better idea to have them claim. All the sudden, mafia has to stack 4 KP (more if medics protect them) to take out 2 confirmed townies, all for the price of depleting the pool of people-who-might-be-medic-or-DT by 2. With PMs allowed as well, the coordination possibilities and the sheer unkillability of 4 nightlives worth of confirmed town far outweighs the downside of not having those random beefy dudes in the pool. How often do you see a vet soak a nighthit anyway? In my experience, it happens maybe once a game, if that. that's all well and good but since we are pretty sure our first vet has lost his first life, as soon as the second vet claims the suicide bomber just fucks him right up the ass. Im positive bm said suicide bomber insta kills vet | ||
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##vote chaoser i have like alot of pages to catch up on but based on my skimming this seems the best decision at the time, but ill post some real reasons, or just quote people cause im sure they've already said it ill try not to be like bb and actually follow this up with a post lol i just dont remember if the day ends at 9 or 10kst | ||
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##unvote ##vote amber[light] i doubt this will affect the outcome of the lynch for today but id rather go on what i believe than be part of killing an innocent for no clear reason that i can see. There's valid reasons for believing all three of you are scum but none are at all sufficient bc pretty much summed up my explanation of the vote on amber for today, but it's going on him tomorrow as well | ||
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On July 22 2010 10:00 DarthThienAn wrote: If you're mafia, yea, you'd love to see me die, wouldn't you ^_^. What blue hints? The extremely obvious "I'm a Mad Hatter" / "I'm Godfather" claims? Seriously, if I was a blue, would I really be so obvious about it? On second thought... would I? There's nothing to draw from those posts - nothing except what you want to draw from them. And what you draw on them just depends on what bias you have, because it's all wifom, isn't it? There's no absolute way of knowing. lol at the reference. so is mafia just a dancing game until we have absolute information or something | ||
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but ill only vote for sub if it's necessary because i see him as more useful for us to lynch than darth at this point(info etc), since i think it's reasonable for either of them to be red it's all about convincing then and sub has convinced me to be more red than darth so far even if darth is being a silly billy, i have faith he'll help us the next day or die so is darth on the block if it's a tie right now or what? | ||
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On July 22 2010 10:39 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: voting ends in 22 minutes. On July 22 2010 10:10 Bill Murray wrote: day ends in 2 hours and 49 minutes and around 14 seconds... er make that 48 minutes and 40 seconds... you get the drift at 10:10 he said +2:49 thus it ends at 1:00 according to BM unlses he lied to us | ||
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On July 22 2010 10:58 Subversion wrote: DTA, if I'm honest, I don't like any of this voting. If I had to bet money on it, I'd say not one of the 3 major candidates is mafia, including you. But you're good at this game, and you may just be fooling me. If I'm truthful, I wish we could all change to another target. But that's not going to happen. Since I KNOW I'm not mafia and am useful to town, and thats all I really can know 100%, I think you're a better choice. I thought the post on you was a good one, although your defense has since led me to believe that you're probably town. The reference to your past character is not from my knowledge, this is my 1st game, but its from that post. Bottom line is, no I don't think you're mafia. But I don't know that for sure, and thus I know you're a better lynch than me, since I'm a really bad person to lynch. yes, WE SHOULD VOTE FUCKING AMBER, if any of you dudes would be man enough to switch. this is of course going to be hard to do cuz 3 of the votes are people trying to save their lives, but it'd only take all of them moving plus what 1 or 2 more? if you really do want to hit a red vote amber, but between the 3 right now i am so unsure | ||
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On July 22 2010 11:01 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: I just wanna say this is really weird. Why doesn't he just switch? i only want to do it if it's necessary, i really want to lynch amber | ||
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On July 22 2010 11:03 youngminii wrote: I think we should focus on amber tomorrow maybe, today seems more like a tossup between Subversion and Chaoser and DTA. yeah sadly i agree | ||
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On July 22 2010 11:03 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Continued from last post: And he didn't go on to do it. Even though I think Darth was on the block at the time. He still hasn't changed to anything (not sure where is vote is right now either). I imagine mafia would discuss this in PMs and would probably just PM BM to find out if Darth was on the block, so it doesn't seem scummy but it's really weird. it's more a lesser of two evils, this could easily be town on town dung flinging | ||
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On July 22 2010 11:08 SouthRawrea wrote: WIFOM= Wine in front of me Not sure how to explain it but it basically is the situation where you're thinking this could be a green or a blue hiding himself as a green to not get killed or a green hiding himself as a blue hiding himself as a green to protect the blues or a blue hiding himself as a green as a blue as a green.. etc it's a logical circle where you can never come to a definitive conclusion. I guess the clearest example is well i know mr X posts alot when he's red, but maybe he knows that i know, but maybe he also knows that i know that he knows that i know etc, and you can just level yourself into infinity | ||
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On July 22 2010 11:08 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Well I get it now, you're hot to trot on Amber[Light]. Can someone explain the case against Amber? I'd look it up myself but we've past 50 pages now so we can't open all the pages at once anymore. ill just throw the part of BC's post directed at amber + Show Spoiler + On July 19 2010 01:34 Amber[LighT] wrote: ###vote youngminii if I have to trust someone I trust xelin. I'm going to follow his decisions till the end of the day at least. Sorry got to the game early so I read some posts :D This post intrigues me, a lot. HE is blind trusting someone to follow for voting, which makes the third vote of a bandwagon that formed in the last 17 hours of the day, all 3 voting with in a page of eachother. Super odd to be formed a) so late and b) with next to no real debate. On July 20 2010 22:15 Amber[LighT] wrote: Why is it that all of a sudden d3 claims he was protected and BrownBear becomes the official 'active' townie with all of this great insight. Up until about 12 hours ago (last time I checked the thread) he was nowhere to be found, and now that 1 person gave him something to run with, he's invaded about 2/3's of the last 2 pages with nonsense analysis about d3. What's even worse is that he wants our "other" veteran to roleclaim. ATTN OTHER VETERAN: DO NOT ROLECLAIM!!!! The goal of the veteran, as stated numerous times, is to be the meatshield. His vote is only worth 1, regardless of how long he is left in the game. His job is to soak damage up from night kills. By outing our veterans, we are pretty much giving the mafia enough information to say "don't hit these players." I'm against that plan completely, and I'm against BrownBear. Hopefully the DT's are working their magic from last night and getting in contact with the players they checked. The DT role is pretty black/white and very strong in this game, so we need to keep those guys alive. The DT's should form their own circles and use the players they checked as voice-boxes. The players who have been checked should, UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES, reveal to any other player who the DT is unless they are verified. The only way the DT circles should combine is if AND ONLY IF by chance a DT checks another DT. Please be smart about this guys. I'm sticking with the opinion of the previous night to lynch the most useless player: ##Vote: BrownBear I'll consider changing my vote if some of the more 'influential players' have a better suggestion. This vote is a completely different style, levels out with what he said the day before of not having time, here he obviously did as it’s a moderately informed vote. HOWEVER he later does this On July 22 2010 01:34 Amber[LighT] wrote: Unvote BrownBear ##Vote: Subversion Though I think BrownBear's analysis and plan is crappy, we can get more info is we lynch Subversion. Lynching BB just proves that we, as a town, aren't as organized as we would like to be. The Subversion discussion caught a lot of players, many more than the BB discussion. By determining Subversion's role we can pinpoint other key players who were pushing for and against the Subversion lynch. I'm willing to risk putting my name into the hat to get the town on a better path to victory. Depending on the flip, the DT's should try and look at key players involved in the Subversion dispute. Here shows that rather than being certain of his choices, he going bandwagon to bandwagon. Subversion has had far to many people jump on him for being a bad player when the kid is new. And now another player, who should know better based on experience, is jumping at him. Seriously fishy imo. Very little activity overall and hoping onto bandwagons is all hes really doing. Amber seems to vote for whichever wagon at the time is attracting the most people, hopping onto Youngminii near its beginning, then proceeding to jump on BB when it was in its prime, now hes hopped over to subversion. This is insanely odd to me. | ||
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On July 22 2010 11:22 ~OpZ~ wrote: There seems to be enough of us online to change votes. I'm fine with BC or Tree.Hugger dying. BC's too deadly, and Tree.Hugger...well...He defended Darth in a bull shit no information and false information way, and jumped on Subversion with shitty logic. That is all. AND he PM'd me, which is a no no. I only want PM's when I'm checked and saved. last minute wagons are both fun and whacky, though they can be harded to draw conclusions from if we're wong | ||
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6] Subversion (tree.hugger, bumatlarge, jayme, Amber[LighT], chaoser, DarthThienAn) 7] chaoser (SiNiquity, youngminii, Roffles, SouthRawrEa, misder, citi.zen, BrownBear) 1] Brownbear (tricode, ) 2] Amber[LighT] (BloodyC0bbler, Divinek) Abstain: (, Protactinium, Infundibulum,Pandain, lakrismamma) been a few pages since an update this is how it stands im pretty pretty sure | ||
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On July 22 2010 11:39 chaoser wrote: I don't like how this situation is playing out...the votes are so close, Mafia should be able to save their own if they wanted to if one of their own was in trouble. But they're not. What does this mean... we're all trying to lynch townies and they're laughing at us, or they think if one of their own dies it'll draw enough attention off of them that it's worth it? | ||
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On July 22 2010 11:50 DarthThienAn wrote: When I die, lynch Pyrr plz. Vote double lynch pff die no way brah ##unvote ##vote chaoser oh shit im scum saving my scum buddy the power is with you my son | ||
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On July 22 2010 13:58 bumatlarge wrote: And what woodwork would I have come out of? I was satisfied with my vote on subversion and explained why, and I wasn't against darth or chaoser being lynched either, not one over the other, so really I had no reason to post and waited for night. Its a shame darth was green, as his posts are now just random vanilla towny actions with barely rhyme or reason, but we have a good number of votes to analyze now, so that should lead to alot of posting I'll need to catch up on tomorrow. Hopefully night will give us even more. I would protect subversion tonight as he's either blue or red, even though mafia might pass over him based off day 2. Hope I get shot tonight >:D it became quite clear over time that darth was town, i even thought my vote might save him in the end but it did not. Doesnt mean i was entirely convinced either of the other two were red but they were alot more likelygod damn you mafia you're behind this! At least we know for sure there was like 1-2 mafia voting for him if a whopping 10 people were on his wagon. I would assume it may be better to look at the people who didnt have that great of a reason to vote for him rather than the people that made decent arguments for it. or maybe we got really fucked and no reds voted for him but that seems highly unlikely as quite possibly one of their own was at risk, and they just threw a vote on darth early and then never talked/changed it | ||
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so use preview, think about it for a second etc etc | ||
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On July 23 2010 10:35 chaoser wrote: OK! Cause I follow your every whim and beck: When the voting first started, it was just BB and Subversion who were on the chopping block, and they had a decent amount of votes on them too. But then all of a sudden it all shifted off BB and onto me and Darth, Subversion just stayed. From there, the voting trend seems to continue on just me and DTA, with the two of us topping the charts while Subversion is on the top of the list for a mere 7 minutes before slowly dropping to 6 and then back up to 8. I'm not saying he's mafia since he claimed blue but the patterns of voting are definitely suspicious. Maybe it was just random chance, I don't know. But I think out of the four of us, BB, DTA, me, and Subversion, someone is mafia. Either that or we've been fucking ourselves and mafia is just laughing in the background. If it's the latter we need to look at a few people that pushed for the four of us to be on that vote Pandain for starting mine (sorry, I don't really think you're red but it's gotta get brought up =[, Divinek for jumping votes FOUR times (BB->me->amber->me), prry for DTA, and tree.hugger for PMing different people different things on how to vote, apparently he did this. I know I got a PM from him, I don't know about other people but that's very suspicious if he did and told everyone different things. well my vote jump went something like this i voted bb as soon as it was day cause he was being a little shitter and i don rike dat. then i voted you cause i figured you were our best lynch candidate and had perhaps the most against you of anything presented so far. But as you people started to defend yourselves it became clear to me we were definitely in danger of lynching a townie since the votes were so even it wouldnt take much for the mob to sway the votes, and there really wasnt too strong of a case on any of you. So i voted for amber as i truely believed him to deserve my vote at that point Then my last vote switch back to you was only to try and save darth because i knew with fairly good certainty he was town, even if he was being a dumb townie, at this point while i was still unsure of you other two. | ||
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On July 23 2010 10:56 zeks wrote: I'm trying to contribute as much as I can and I have been reading. If you have any questions for me Pandain feel free to ask me I'll answer them as best I can. I'm not just gonna post whatever pops up in my mind for like 2 seconds give me some time to absorb all this information. For every one good post I have to sort out 4 irrelevant ones. For the record tree.hugger never PMed me. Perhaps I'm so quiet he thought I had limited influence over town. Seems like he picked select people to try to change the voting...maybe he's DT and Subversion flipped red? Just a random thought the thing is it's hard to ask question when you havent posted much ya know, unless we are directly asking your opinion of certain things that happened which is tedious to ask each person specifically things like that | ||
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On July 23 2010 13:32 youngminii wrote: Okay now you're getting me quite annoyed. I have never said mafia made no mistakes so far. Plus even if I did it doesn't mean anything, thanks. those were things subversion said ffs | ||
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On July 23 2010 13:51 Pandain wrote: Now that things have settled, I think now would be a good time for everyone who hasn't voted to double lynch to do so now. I really feel like we should've had it for this day, but I guess we'll have to wait. Opinions? Anyone see why we SHOULDN'T double lynch? If not, I urge all of you to vote so now. did you even explain why we should is it really so useful to blast 2 people even though we have no reason to truly believe two people to be red enough to use a double lynch? or are you just going on the hunch that we will find out enough today, either that seem pretty interesting | ||
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On July 23 2010 14:11 youngminii wrote: Unfortunately they're invalid because it's still night Or is it like, twilight/dawn or something. well it's probably just easier on the host if we wait unitl after his day post to do votes and stuff | ||
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On July 23 2010 15:24 Subversion wrote: how were there THREE hits? vigi is one, mafia is another, where's the 3rd? sorry if this is a n00b Q =/ mafia have 2 kp | ||
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On July 23 2010 15:29 SiNiquity wrote: Hmm interesting. So BC is either a Veteran or was protected by the remaining medic (orr Medics can protect the night they're killed, and Roffles protected BC). Is that last one even possible? i would assume it is but this is a very important question. BM is that possible? | ||
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On July 23 2010 15:45 SiNiquity wrote: Why would it be bad for a vigilante who's already used their night hit to claim? They're essentially a townie at this point.. I guess it gives Mafia a little bit of info about who's who (so they know not to waste a hit on that player if they're blue-hunting). But isn't this outweighed by the benefit of knowing BC's claim for sure (again after DT checks). It seems like a bold move for Mafia to fake-claim the vigilante hit, as doing so means they're feeding 2 members to a town that hasn't caught a single one yet (tho hopefully today'll be different). well the only negative side effect would be the mafia knows he's exactly a townie | ||
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On July 23 2010 22:57 citi.zen wrote: d3 claimed vet, but BC didn't, you're right. where did d3 claim vet? wtf, i blame the spammers | ||
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On July 24 2010 12:23 bumatlarge wrote: Oh boo hoo mr 'i just criticize what everyone says alot so i dont have to come up with anything'. if Im so suspicious, why dont you vote for me. Is it because you dont want to put yourself in the spotlight. Helpful advice, even when if you managed to bandwagon against someone with a relatively small initiate paragraph of complete incrimination on someone and they get lynched and people point at you, you will still manage to get away with it because you did that, and DTs wont even check you for it. Im going to have to try that when I get mafia. Meanwhile I am going to go to sleep on my couch and watch TV as I wait til the morning sun 2 days from now. Must be a lame ass planet that liquidville lives on to have 48 hours of light and 24 hours of night. How could you even compensate? I bet they live on tatooine or something at least i got you to post, though it didnt say much except flaming me for a previous game lol i don't vote for you yet cuz i dont wanna, that and apparently if we're going for a double lynch that has to go with your vote and once majority hits day ends i think? so im holding off on voting that and there are most likely better inactive fucks to bring into the spot light than you sir, i just though id be explicit about you initially since you love me so much | ||
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On July 24 2010 14:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote: From blocking it? I actually contest many claims in many games that are completely out of left field. No one agreed to claiming to someone who thought d3 was almost fully legit, yet your agreeing to claim to someone who has appeared out as the last KP role? as well as saying "sup im the medic spokesmen, got myself a circle already" etc... Its too good to be true this early. But surely if he's coming out as the last kp role it would have to be contested if he's lying? Though I could think of some reasons why the remaining kp person might not want to counter claim him it seems like it would be worth it to bust a fake circle of trust | ||
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On July 24 2010 15:19 youngminii wrote: ^ Actually if there's a counter claim, we have no way of knowing which claim is true unless citi.zen decides to off himself. In any case, we should just run with it. If citi.zen was scum, he'd be in a bad spot right now. so? 1 scum for all the blues in the game, pretty good trade imo | ||
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On July 24 2010 15:55 Tricode wrote: BC seems confident about southrawrea and does have good analysis on him. And I would like to lynch mafia this time round. So Changing my vote ##unvote youngmini ##Vote: southrawrea indeed a good example of putting the spot light on one of those inactive bastards like i was wanting to do ##vote southrawrea | ||
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On July 25 2010 09:46 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: hey if citizen flips green i fully admit my incompetence and if he does flip green we still have that other person that his dt confirmed to coordinate us tomorrow! (and the bombs will be more aptly placed) like really now if we're just lynching a townie it's not all that bad and we're gaining alot of info from this and the bombs wont blow up the wrong people at all (or at least one can be moved) why are people so worried, dont even need to switch my vote to him but i will i bet i look bad doing this last minute but this is when i get off work man ##unvote ##vote citizen ##vote double lynch | ||
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On July 25 2010 09:52 Bill Murray wrote: chaoser, if you do one more vote tally i am going to modkill you LOL just LOL isnt it useful for the town though, i mean i know im personally too lazy to keep track myself | ||
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On July 25 2010 10:07 BrownBear wrote: Ok, we should probably stop. We're creating posts faster than BM can read through them at this point :D yeah seriously no spamming in a bm game plz | ||
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On July 25 2010 09:43 youngminii wrote: As soon citi.zen flips green here's the following list of people to lynch (in order). I don't care what you have against it, just listen and do it if he does flip green. SouthRawrea Chaoser BC Infundibuxdlgxcubum tree.hugger Fake claimer (I have an idea of who it is) There's a likely chance that one person in this list will be town but it will be a fair trade. No buts, no arguments, just straight lynching. i highly agree with this list good sir, i might re order it slightly but it is solid none the less | ||
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On July 25 2010 10:17 Bill Murray wrote: p.s. send yo night actions in to me in the next 24 hours... OR ELSE + Show Spoiler + wait do you really mod kill if someone doesnt send their night action | ||
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On July 25 2010 10:18 youngminii wrote: Actually fuck that, move BC to the top because he's the most influential. SouthRawrea Chaoser BC Infundibuxdlgxcubum Pandain (Claimed DT) Amber[Light] (Pandain claimed to have checkd him) Tree.hugger (moved tree.hugger to the bottom 'cause it's likely he's just bad town) Quote this every page. Thanks. wait did he publically doing this or are you just handing the mob a free dt? | ||
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On July 25 2010 13:21 Subversion wrote: how long till voting ends? can we get an up to date count? trying to sift thru about 10 pages of stuff i missed. it ended a while ago dude | ||
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On July 26 2010 02:44 bumatlarge wrote: Lakrisma, Tricode is NOT confirmed. Although it didn't appear clear at first, it seems likely now mafia hoped to draw out both KP roles, but I doubt they thought it would lead to this mass DT claim through PMs, hopefully the fake DT is the GF or something, and not one of the people a real DT claimed to. He could really seed himself in there then :/ I dont think its a good idea to reveal who the DT is zeks... he'll be alot more confirmed after we lynch south tomorrow | ||
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On July 26 2010 07:09 BrownBear wrote: Minor brag post: OMG I TOTALLY FUCKING CALLED IT. I still don't believe you, though. You and BC have been too ridiculous to be able to claim this with any credibility. 100% agree, the manner in which this information was extracted from him is down right hilarious. Besides the fact it's just retarded | ||
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On July 26 2010 07:42 chaoser wrote: Let's wait for night to end before we actually do anything like claim and shit. For now let's just talk about things to do cause we don't know how the landscape of this game is going to change with whatever happens tonight. we should just stop talking at all,till night ends, cause hopefully we'll have 2 most useful dt checks coming through tonight | ||
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On July 26 2010 09:56 Subversion wrote: Don't give problems tree hugger. Give solutions. rofl mafia doesnt give solutions | ||
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cool lets get this ball rolling, do not let the mob sway your judgement! ##vote BloodyC0bbler ##vote SouthRawrea ##vote double lynch damn that's some votes CMON PEOPLE LETTTTS GO | ||
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On July 26 2010 12:29 bumatlarge wrote: Oh also how exactly did scum know sub was a DT? Did you guys spread the PM circle a little too far? :/ did you see how bad sub has played until now, i think you can guess how it happened | ||
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On July 26 2010 12:37 Pandain wrote: Nah, it was just me and another guy. And I found out from him so..... We were going to tell youngmini if subversion didn't die during the night, however this doesn't count since he revealed it anyway Thinkin along with my defense (I think I gave a lil' too much info) and just Subversion in general he was a good mob hit. wait so sorry if i didnt catch it if you explained it before but why did the other guy tell you subversion was dt in the first place if he didnt know you were not red? and why were you going to tell young if you didnt know he was not red? | ||
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On July 26 2010 13:25 Pandain wrote: Other guy told me cause we trusted each other. We were cautious of telling young, since he has/had been acting weird. We were afraid he might be GF faking as townie. So I came up with an idea. I would pretend to be dt, fake claim to youngmini. If i died during the night, Subversion could tell with good certainty that young was gf, and he could bust him. rofl god damn | ||
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On July 26 2010 14:35 BloodyC0bbler wrote: ROOOOOFL. Come back from work only to find apparently I have claimed twice to people two different roles while everyone misses the most fucking odd thing in the world. THE DT DIED. The day after someone requests dts claim, the same day some retard outs his dt (who was a mouth?) the same day that same "dt" claims some epic strategy to bag a GF. And no one is suspicious of them? For fucks sake, no wonder the town is losing. In this game day alone, the # of liars I have seen astound me. Combine with zeks claiming two roles (hi liar), combine south's obvious attempt to bus me as well as rastabans, I am amused. The level of fright I have managed to put on the mafia this game is absolutely astounding. I have no idea how to even begin today disecting the idiocy i've seen the last page, let alone the level of naiveness from a town. i agree some of it is funny, and alot of it has to be bullshit (i cant imagine you trying to rc two different people as two different roles??) however citizen is confirmed in his honesty, and he said he had another cleared person to speak for his dt, and only one person has stepped up to that role and no one has called bullshit on him so why would zeks be no good? (maybe his dt isnt a dt and he's a red working with zeks?) though i think i understand what you were getting at with the two roles thing he has claimed mh, but mentioned him 'checking' someone? and representing a dt that is a reasonable way of thinking, other than that yeah and to be fair it does look bad that you pushed so hard for him to die, but you werent really in danger yourself so...not that bad, and if rhasta was your team mate and was in that much danger it'd seem silly for you to stick your neck out so far to push the wagon the other way when you know he's gonna die next, most likely i am interested in your candidates better than yourself! | ||
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On July 26 2010 15:14 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: #vote SouthRawrea #vote Pandain I'm just going to start with who I know for 100% sure has lying. Hasn't worked well so far but I don't give a fuck. my logical trail takes me down the same path, ill likely end up on a liar as well for my other vote because if you're town for fuck sakes dont openly lie to the town, at least in such a stupid and poor manner | ||
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On July 26 2010 11:19 Pandain wrote: Rastabans DT then is a fake. Subversion was mine. id like to bring this up again so it doesnt get lost in the spam | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On July 26 2010 15:54 Protactinium wrote: I have just caught up on thread. And it's a shitstorm. Ignore what I said about doing analysis. This is much bigger. [b]Everybody, if you have been wondering who the mystery man in Pandain's post (Mr. ???) is, wonder no more. It is I. And now, I can say that Pandain has been lying to me. With a full game's worth of PMs from both Pandain and Subversion, I can show you that this "secret experiment" was not anything planned between the three of us. In fact, Pandain went at it on his own, and did not consult Subversion or myself. You may ask, how am I confirmed? I started PMing Subversion sometime after the first night, when I realized he had soft claimed blue in thread. Through PMs, he told me he was a Detective, and that his first check had been youngminii but he was suspicious that youngminii was Godfather. Disregarding that, I asked him to check me Night 2 so that we could have a fully confirmed circle (and as a test to see if he would get my role), but after a while he decided to check Amber[LighT] instead, as already said earlier in the thread. Regarding Pandain, and how he comes into this: during Day 2, Subversion was on the line to be lynched, and I pulled Pandain off of him because I still believed that Subversion was Detective. Yes, it is a risk, but the plan was calculated. If Subversion had died during Night 2, then Pandain would have been outed as Mafia infiltration. Sacrificing one Detective for Mafia is always worth it, especially in this format, and that was my failsafe. However, Subversion lived through the night, so I began to think Pandain was more legitimate. After all, the rules of the game (even stickied in the Mafia threads) say to kill blues as you find them if you are Mafia, and Subversion was still alive. However, at this point Subversion was too afraid still to tell youngminii AND Amber[LighT], since he feared both of them could be the Godfather. Not wanting him to out himself too early, I thought it would be best for him, myself, and Pandain to stay quiet, and to wait out the day. Then citi.zen's plan came in, and this is where things started going awry. I do not have much time per day to dedicate to Mafia, especially with guests this weekend, and so I returned to my computer with a message from Pandain saying that he had told youngminii that he was Detective and that youngminii would be the mouth. Apparently, he had not consulted Subversion about this and when I talked to Subversion later that day he was very distressed and expressed his doubts. I, too, secretly began to have them, but they were still unfounded: Pandain seems to post impulsively, so I chalked his latest scheme up to that. citi.zen saw through this, of course, and then the thread went to shit with massive claims. Ah, before I forget, Pandain also wanted me to help him call for a mass roleclaim to Tricode, who wouldn't have been confirmed at that point due to conflicting calls over town kill power roles. And so we have it here. Mafia killed Subversion, and I had a PM from Pandain telling me that the "other Detective" was going to check Subversion tonight, but to "keep Subversion from thinking that, and to just play it cool and to have him check Misder/lakrismamma. And here we are now. Town, I am going to bed soon, but if you want a roster of PMs, just call for them. I can provide them with rapidity that begets falseness, and I invite you to scrutinize them all. What am I saying with this post? Pandain is Mafia? No, simply that he lied, and "took initiative" and tried to implement his circle. It still is awfully suspicious the way things turned out, but one thing's for sure: if we're lynching all liars, Pandain has some stuff to explain. why in the name in ALL THAT IS FUCKING JUST IN THE WORLD did he tell you he was a dt without checking you first | ||
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On July 27 2010 01:05 ~OpZ~ wrote: They are still fucking idiots or mafia. I will be happy to vote anyone that pushed BC AND South over majority if EITHER pops green. Could of at least waited for BC to post suspects. Could of waited for more from south. Ignore every other scummy person and possible information we could of gathered because you guys would like to vote. Sorry BC, regardless of your color, I didn't cast my vote for you yet. Vote: Abstainx2 & Double Lynch yeah i took my vote off cause i didnt want pre mature deaths either , i think people that led to it are scum or completely stupid.however bc didnt vote yet so as long as he doesnt vote for double lynch etc i think he can still post all the info he's come up with? hopefully! | ||
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On July 27 2010 04:50 chaoser wrote: What's the vote count now? they're both over majority for sure | ||
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On July 27 2010 13:07 Subversion wrote: lol, no fucking way am i taking the blame. screw u guys ^_^ 1. Once you are dead you may not post anything at all. People are getting irritated with dead people talking so sorry but dead people are now forbidden from talking during the game. it's the first fucking rule COME ON stop it and yes you are | ||
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rl issues are not a good way to avoid getting lynched, for all we know people could be making that stuff up and even if they arent if you arent contributing then what's the point | ||
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On July 28 2010 10:55 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Actually I read the thread yesterday morning saw I had hit majority along with SR and assumed day had finished when I got home from work last night. I love how rules change so instantly without warning ffs. yeah i think it's beyond silly | ||
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On July 28 2010 13:37 Pandain wrote: FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dude this was like the best thing that could've happened. Well done zeks. He's trusted for sure now n.n And to think I doubted BOTH of them being mafia. you're kidding right? They both had clear signs of being red, south 10000x times more than bc as bc is obviously good, but yeah. There's no way you could have doubted both lol way to go town! | ||
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On July 28 2010 14:04 youngminii wrote: Okay since Zeks isn't here and I don't want people accidentally roleclaiming to the person I'm about to accuse, I'll tell everyone what he told me. Zeks, I apologise if you wanted to break the news to everyone but I'm kind of afraid people will roleclaim to him by accident or something before you come on. Pandain is Mafia. He has been checked by the DT Zeks is in contact with. He had some small doubts as to whether he was Miller or not but now Miller's dead so... Yeah. yeah pandain was getting my vote the next day anyway, glad to have my thoughts confirmed | ||
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On July 28 2010 14:09 Pandain wrote: mmm I wanted to say "your a bleepin liar" and vote for you. But Subversion already voted you and you are town aligned. I must be a miller. Is there possibly a second miller? I swear to truth I'm a townie. there's a chance there could be i suppose, but as soon as zeks confirms what young is saying anyway, which im 100% sure he will you're still gonna die sorry bro | ||
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On July 28 2010 14:54 BloodyC0bbler wrote: None taken, the fact you actually thought about it was a nice thing for me though, finally felt like people weren't just being sheep. that's the sad part of being a well known name in a set up like this when the other two i guess (darth citi?) were dead that everyone thinks there's a strong enough chance you're gf that it's hard not to die people of course could not vote the most well known person on their team to be gf, but then someone like you is gonna get checked asap so it's a bad situation | ||
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On July 28 2010 15:22 ~OpZ~ wrote: BC, you had a VERY slim chance of changing my vote...But as I've said, I regularly distrust you. And your instajump on citizen is what hugely pinned my suspicion at you. Was an epic bus of citizen you pulled off tho. GG for you sir. wat that wasnt a bus citizen was town | ||
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On July 28 2010 15:27 ~OpZ~ wrote: And the herd of town sheep BC aimed at him and used to lynch him wasn't bussing him? The mafia bussed him. Someone should go find the lynch list that got citizen lynched. Care to do that? -_- bc did not draw suspicion off him self by having citi lynched, infact he had suspicion brought on him since he obviously flipped green and this lead to his death. So by definition it was quite the opposite of a bus | ||
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On July 28 2010 15:29 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I woulda done it as town as well. As I said, his play was horrendous there, the fact that only a minority of players saw it makes me sad. yeah i felt lynching him there was the best play regardless of how he flipped lol, can't have town following a shit fest like that | ||
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On July 28 2010 15:35 ~OpZ~ wrote: You, AGAIN have misinterpreted my post. I am saying BC pulled the bus off of South by sending it at citizen. Which messed him up in the end. Do you understand now? He doesn't transition from south to citizen well, he just instaflips onto citizen. ok not to derail the town from real discussion but you really need to rephrase your shit cause im assuming english cant be your first language. im also pretty sure you dont know what bus means lets go to what you originally said " Was an epic bus of citizen you pulled off tho" he pulled off a bus of citizen, you'd have to be pretty fucking convolutely magical to get out of that 'he pulled a bus off of someone else and put it on citizen' instead of just reading 'pulled off' as 'making it happen' secondly 'bussing' is when you're mafia(usually) and you get another mafia killed to draw attention from yourself so you cant pull a 'bus' off of a mafia and on to a town... | ||
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On July 29 2010 00:14 lakrismamma wrote: So here aremy comments and some notes to make the game clearer. Pandain is proably mafia we have to lynch him either way. The chance is so small that there are another miller. Also he has been voting and acting strange. 20/30 1. tree.hugger 2. brownbear 3. youngminii Checked by Subversion 5. chaoser 6. divinek 7. xelin 9. SiNiquity 10. lakrismamma 11. rastaban 12. bumatlarge 13. Amber[LighT] Checked by Subversion 15. pandain checked by Zeks DT 16. ~OpZ~ 17. Infundibulum 23. d3_crescentia Vet Took hit on day one 24. Misder 26. Pyrrholuxia 27. Tricode 28. zeks Mad hatter 29. protactinium 16/24 town-aligned players alive 2/2 Veterans alive 2/2 Town KP roles alive 1/2 Medics alive 1/2 DTs alive 4/6 Mafia-players alive 0/1 Godfather 1/1 Suicide Bomber Mafia KP: 2 (until they have under 1.5 when divided by 2) Double lynches: 2 (1 remains) Have I missed anything? did d3 actually ever claim vet? people kept fabricating the fact that he did, can you get a direct quote of him saying he's a vet? | ||
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On July 29 2010 12:44 chaoser wrote: zeks DID say he wanted to blow a popsicle stand. prettty sure it was taco | ||
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On July 29 2010 12:38 Pandain wrote: Worst Case scenario: Mafia hits zeks, medic. Xelin kills infun, killing dt. Zeks bombs go off on me and whoever else. In totaL: 7 deaths 1.zeks 2.med 3.infun 4.dt 5.you 6.whoever else man counting is hard i think worst case is the IT takes out both blue roles +target but that's super duper unlikely | ||
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On July 29 2010 14:39 Pandain wrote: 1.If there is another miller than I'm at 3/4 chance 2.When did I say the DT to ocugh up his identity? Theres a reason I withheld Sub's name while I was defending myself after young talked 3.You're already voting? Seriously? Think this through, this is serious. Listen to what I'm saying first. We have no medics, no dts. This is not the time for bandwagons. 4.The point of not lynching me is that we just lost a mad hatter, two greens, a dt, and a medic. WE WERE TOLD OUR DT FOUND YOU TO BE RED end of story | ||
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that's great but just because you say it doesnt make it so this is better than any possible post analysis we HAVE to lynch you. If you're not going to lynch people that flip red from dt checks what better reasons could you possibly have rofl | ||
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On July 29 2010 14:47 Pandain wrote: 1. *sigh* TWO millers, not three, TWO 2.Quote it 3.I'm just asking you to hear my side before you vote. 7 votes and its a majority and I'm auto lynched. I'm asking you to at least wait for my def. 4.Maybe because of a whole bunch of fails? Zek's bombs blow off on a townie and (xelin?) The medic tries to protect xelin, and tht is a fail. I can't have been responsible for the other leak because zeks wouldn't tell me who the dt was. So I'm not responsible at all. im straight up FoS'ing anyone that doesnt vote for you after you dt check red regardless of what you say | ||
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On July 29 2010 14:51 Pandain wrote: Cmon man, seriously? Am I the only one who finds this at least SOMEWHAT wrong? when you dt check red, and one miller is already dead there is nothing more to ask/say it is sooo beyond logic, naturally any mafia is going to try and persuade us not to vote for him | ||
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On July 29 2010 14:54 Pandain wrote: Naturally. But I would assume any rational pro town person would wait to hear the defense of a person before lynching them and declaring anything they say useless and saying anyone who disagrees with you AT ALL is FOS. we cant afford not to lynch someone that dt checks red ahhhh, though i believe it to be fully possible for 2 millers to exist out of 24 town, i suppose. 25% chance you're miller, 75% chance you're mafia such gooood odds cause everytime we mis lynch everyone will think well what if pandain.... it's really better just to get you out of the way | ||
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On July 29 2010 15:02 Pandain wrote: Yeah you can afford to wait though. We have two full days. At least allow me to defend myself before automatically voting. And also, if there is anothe rmiller, than theres a 3/4 chance that I'm miller, not 25%. Going to bed soon so anyone who'd like to PM BM about that, I'd be uber grateful. No, its not just better to get me out of the way. Did you see how many we lost man? Right now, we're on basically, at heart, speculation. We need to be careful about every lynch now. Now I'm not saying that there isn't some evidence against me... there is. I'm just saying please wait for me to defend myself before voting. Is that really so bad? what there's no way there's 3 millers, do you even understand variable change, and did you pull 3/4 out of your ass or something lol 1 miller who is already dead doesnt come into the equation, if there remains 1 miller and 3 mafia then 4 people can check red i really shouldnt have to explain this... how is there anything we need to be careful about when voting you when you dt check red at this point in the game with 1 miller already dead... not that id mind if you started really contributing to town in your final hours because you got alot to make for bro | ||
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On July 29 2010 15:05 Pandain wrote: 3 mafia left. ONe miller dead. If there are two millers(me and laxer, wheres this 3rd one your talking about), and laxer is dead, that means there is a 3/4 chance that one "checked red" member will miller. you're still pulling that 3/4 number out of your ass LOL you dont count the dead miller, why the hell would you. We KNOW what he is we dont know about you/3(2) other reds | ||
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[QUOTE]On July 02 2010 07:57 Bill Murray wrote: 1. tree.hugger 2. brownbear 3. youngminii 4. chaoser 5. divinek 6. rastaban 7. Amber[LighT] 8. pandain 9. ~OpZ~ 10. d3_crescentia 11. Misder 12. Pyrrholuxia 13. Tricode 14. protactinium Out of this list, there are 4 people that I am absolutely sure are town aligned. That leaves 10 people left. By using this double lynch today, there's a 1/5 chance that we hit mafia. It is crucial that we hit at least 1 mafia today because that will lower their KP to 1. If we don't hit any scum today, then there will be 10 people left tomorrow with 3 Mafia and no double lynches. Miss two more times and it's lights out for town. So while it's not GG if we miss today, it doesn't bode well for us at all if they're allowed to keep using their 2 KP. There's a good chance Pandain is mafia and so he's my leading suspect. I propose that we lynch chaoser since he's pretty much next on my list. I know I was wrong about Infundibulum but we don't really have anyone better to lynch (unless you can come up with one), and chaoser was one of Zeks's leading suspects too. Aaaaand with that: ##Vote Pandain ##Vote chaoser[/QUOTE] hm i like you're list this is my modified one taking myself out of course(and the practically and absolutely confirmed greens) but you dont have to believe that, ill have to try to painfully read some of chaosers actual content posts 1. tree.hugger 2. brownbear 4. chaoser 8. pandain 9. ~OpZ~ 11. Misder 12. Pyrrholuxia 14. protactinium so yeah that's solid odds, im still really suspicious of misder. He still hasnt been saying shit, i might almost think he's a better candidate than chaoser, almost time to read his posts | ||
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On July 26 2010 16:51 Misder wrote: ##vote Double Lynch ##vote SouthRawrea ##vote Pandain I'm back. And I read through the entire thread. It confused the heck out of me... my first mafia game wasn't this complicated. >.< Here's my train of thought: SouthRawrea has been lying, and fake claiming. Easy enough. And when he is asked to post PMs, he retypes it. I think that he doesn't know what PM posting looks like, so in order to cover up his made up PMs, he says he retypes it. Pandain has been lying in the PMs. To me, this suggests that he is mafia. Even when he is PMing, he doesn't follow the plans that are given. I don't know anything about PMing in a mafia game, but it seems to be all a mind game. And it seems like Pandain is confusing as many people as possible. I don't feel like BC is mafia. If he is, we can prove it by lynching zeks. This is pretty flawed, but I just have a feeling (I could be completely wrong, in which...) I also think that we should consider lynching rastaban. rastaban's dt is fake; we cannot confirm whether he is lying or that his dt is lying. We lynch rastaban to get this info. ##vote Misder pressure vote gogogo he has a whopping 23 posts most of which say nothing at all | ||
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On July 29 2010 15:26 Protactinium wrote: Firstly, I needed his vote off of Subversion. He was thinking of voting Subversion at the time, and it is no good to have a Detective lynched. In doing so, I also thought of a gambit: If Subversion was Detective and Pandain was "let into the circle", if Subversion died then Pandain was at fault. Town, early on, should always be willing to trade a Detective for a Mafia, especially in this format where having one dead Detective means making it that much easier to sort through counter-claims. I am not mentally retarded, as you are half-way implying Divinek. Please do not call me so. i wasnt half way implying it i was straight up saying it, and no trading them early is terrible it is fine as the game progresses and we have more info to go off of, but early game dt checks are the only solid info town has. cause if you throw your first dt to the sharks, you have to god damn well pray mafia doesnt hit the next one with their two kp a night | ||
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also pandain when you read this again stop trying to defend yourself and help us find someone else to lynch in the future + today, you're already going to be hung the longer you try to defend yourself when you KNOW we have to kill you (i mean put yourself in our shoes, or put a reasonable player in our shoes at least), it does actually make you look worse because you arent being productive at all if you're red and it doesnt help the town at all after you're dead, all we have is this pile of defense of pandain, the guy who dt checked red and we knew we had to kill nothing to help us long term, ya dig? | ||
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On July 29 2010 15:54 rastaban wrote: Uhg, just caught up, that was a horrible night. At least my read on Bumatlarge was correct. I agree that Pandain is the way to go for our first vote, but I will hold off voting for him to see what defense he has. Really though I don't see how any argument would make it worth the risk of keeping a red alive, especially since we can drop their KP to 1 if we get one more. Now who should we look at for the second lynch? So far Chaoser and Tree have both been put forth. I think I will go back through there posts and see if I can get a read on either one. please consider misder also! though i think both of your above are very good options as well | ||
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On July 29 2010 21:29 d3_crescentia wrote: I am confirmed 100%. I got targeted Night 1 and was successfully protected by Siniquity. As you may recall, Vigis cannot shoot on Night 1, and mafia can't target themselves either, so this medic protect PM in my inbox makes me town. It's entirely possible that Foolishness got double-stacked and I'm faking it, but unfortunately Siniquity/Zeks are no longer around to back me up on this, as they were the only others that knew as far as I know. I don't trust anyone this game given the amount of BS lying that was flying around. Creating a townie circle is only a good idea when everyone is trusted - i.e. myself and Siniquity. Others have tried to PM me. Xelin claimed DT to me after Night 1; but since checked lists started to float around only last night I didn't have a strong enough reason to suspect him. Tree.hugger's been noticeably silent in PM land as well; he claimed Townie to me Night 1. I haven't given them shit for information. In the meantime, Divinek PM'd me after BC's fake-claim asking me if I wanted to start a PM circle with him and BC. Since I know super secret awesome things I'll take him for his word and trust he's town, but I'll have to keep him in mind for the future. ##vote: Pandain ##vote: rastaban yeah i just wanted to pm you to see your reaction. You gave me a pretty town, or thinking townie rather, like reaction lol so i was happy to see that. | ||
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On July 30 2010 01:33 BrownBear wrote: Jesus, divinek, let a man defend himself. You're just shouting him down and demanding he must die. That's pretty damn scummy to me. ##Vote Pandain ##Vote: Divinek why would i let someone who fucking dt checked red defend themselves it is an unproductive waste of towns time you look scummy to me bro i also already claimed vet so if you're voting for me without any evidence that im not a vet you're bad bro | ||
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On July 30 2010 03:43 BrownBear wrote: Divinek for sure should be looked at closely when Pandain flips miller. I think rastaban is likely innocent. SO, remember that day 2 plan I had where the vets claim? I think we should do that now. There's no reason not to at this point. whyyy should i be looked at so closely. For pushing hard to kill someone that dt checked red? What more do you want us to do man, decide not to vote for people who dt check red? We have to lynch them as soon as we can anyways given the good odds we have of reducing mafia kp just from that kill alone | ||
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On July 30 2010 10:21 BrownBear wrote: I think now would be a good time to say "I told you so", Divinek? okay next time someone dt checks red we just wont lynch them then if that makes you happy you can totally push for a wagon on me if that makes you happy as well, ill even vote for myself if you ask me to.. oh wait we cant do that in this game but you get the idea | ||
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On July 30 2010 10:16 BrownBear wrote: I must have missed that, where did you claim? Also, no. Under no circumstances should anyone be ignored if they want to defend themselves. Your narrow-mindedness is part of the reason town's doing as poorly as they are, and it's really getting on my nerves. yeah we should have let BC defend himself for the full 48 hours so he could have swayed your vote off plus others rofl narrow minded fuck you he checked red, you're getting on my nerves | ||
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On July 31 2010 04:20 youngminii wrote: Actually BB, going against a DT check is bad play no matter how you spin it. <3 you though. yeah pretty much. You can't be results oriented and go 'wellll he flipped miller' you have to go for the kill because if you dont there will always be doubt in people's mind and that will ALWAYS affect the game and they way they vote/act etc. so do we even know who the other person who is going to hang is(from double lynch), and doesnt day end in half an hour. i wish i got off work earlier | ||
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5] tree.hugger (~OpZ~, amber[LighT], chaoser, BrownBear, Protactinium) 2. brownbear 4. chaoser 9. ~OpZ~ 11. Misder 12. Pyrrholuxia 14. protactinium 4/5 baby makes me wonder if misder wasnt a red saved by his buddies hmmmm, two of those meanies voted for me as well then again there's only three mafia so if he was red things would get interesting quite fast | ||
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On July 31 2010 12:01 youngminii wrote: Red's probably just riding along letting town kill each other. Rastaban/chaoser gogogo. yeah wtf chaoser abstained from the second lynch vote or his name is somehow invisible to me in that list bm posted die die die | ||
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On July 31 2010 13:46 chaoser wrote: I voted pan and tree. Kill me if you like, I'll only flip green and then youngminii has to do the run devil run dance for TL mafia =] lol see your name was invisible on that list! thank you for pointing it out now i can see it | ||
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On August 01 2010 09:26 flamewheel wrote: What's with dead people still posting =.= i know we need some real flamewheel lightning up in here especially on that subversion guy | ||
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5. chaoser 6. divinek 11. rastaban 16. ~OpZ~ 23. d3_crescentia 24. Misder 26. Pyrrholuxia 27. Tricode 29. protactinium based on actual evidence to me it goes down to this 5. chaoser 11. rastaban 16. ~OpZ~ 24. Misder 26. Pyrrholuxia 29. protactinium then based on feelings and surface ideas based on what has happened so far it comes down to this 16. ~OpZ~ 26. Pyrrholuxia 29. protactinium sorry that chaoser and rasta arent on my final idea young! but this isnt my sure fire i think these are mafia list, it's just the people that seem most plausable to be red at this point, to me and im sure this list can be off, but i feel quite QUITE strongly there is at least 1 red in there, if not 2. it'd be nice to have people who were eliminated from the original list (ie d3 and tricode) to put their input on this. Don't worry ill back up my narrowing with actual evidence since we have a whopping 48 hours to do nothing but talk | ||
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On August 01 2010 11:40 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: I still think Misder and BC were working together. Even if he is town, he says he's gonna be mostly gone which gives town one less vote. Also, if Misder's red it was BrownBear's switch that saved him. #vote Misder why do you think they were working together? do you have tangible proof and stuffs of this because it would be nice to see. I think what you're saying has been mentioned before but it'd be nice to see the actual posts explaining it | ||
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hm i see, i missed like half of that before cause i was reading through the thread too fast. I tend to agree with it for the most part though it could use more original input as a conclusion of all the facts or something but whatever. I'm pissed misder didnt die yesterday, and somehow tree hugger ended up dying while i was unable to get on and apparently so was he ##vote Misder for now, or until townie people can come forth with better candidates. I will miss young's activity even if it was fueled by a fair amount of blind rage whichever comes first, though it can be hard to wrap your mind around when for now will come but yeahhh it will | ||
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On August 01 2010 14:32 Tricode wrote: ##Vote Rastaban He knew BC was going to die so I think he just added crap to keep him/her self alive and suspicion off him as if he/she were a good towny and made a lame ass fake post with fake messages. The writing just doesn't seem like BC from how long I have known him. They lack his intellectual language and there are just some things I just never seen him write. Though there is still a chance i could be wrong about this, either case I believe those pm's are fake and the time in which he tried to help get BC killed didn't really do much of a push to get BC killed. could you be more specific please, i looked at them a bit and they look close to how he writes, but i'm of course not as familiar with his vocabulary and such to distinguish a fake. | ||
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On August 02 2010 05:17 Protactinium wrote: I can understand this. I'm not sure why you would claim Veteran to BloodyC0bbler in PMs when he wasn't confirmed (did you do this after he announced he was shot by Tricode?) but at that point you did the logical and correct thing. We can all mark Divinek as town now, though he's just going to not get shot by Mafia... Other Veteran, do not claim unless your life in danger, that is to say, you are going to be lynched. To be honest though, if you claim then you just won't get shot, but if we get it down to 2 Mafia 2 Veterans and a townie that's much better than not having two Veterans. One game isn't enough to really say anything conclusive, and inactivity is a damning curse to the town, since even at this stage of the game it allows Mafia to hide. I still want to see Pyrrhuloxia's evidence to back up his claim, but Misder can just as easily fit the inactive Mafia bill as the inactive townie bill, since BloodyC0bbler has taken up most of this thread's attention. At this point, [b]Misder still needs to talk more since he (am I correct?) has pretty much contributed nothing to this town, both in form of pro-town activity and in material to be analyzed. Interestingly enough, going back and looking at BloodyC0bbler's and SouthRawrea's interactions, there are virtually none before the Day 3 fiasco. This, in conjunction to BloodyC0bbler's 'analysis' on SouthRawrea leads me to believe that SouthRawrea was initially going to be bused by BloodyC0bbler but then that was disrupted by citi.zen. Of course, by saying that I just went back and had to examine the list of others that BloodyC0bbler had analyzed to see who else was on the list. No go, since they're all dead. My conspiracy theorist mind now makes me think that rastaban is even more likely to be innocent now, since BloodyC0bbler had started a bandwagon on SouthRawrea, and to draw it home and give himself credibility he would need some sort of conclusive evidence--such as a Detective check, no? And he wouldn't even have to come out in the open; he could use his mouth to do so. Bam, SouthRawrea flips red, and the mouth and "Detective" gain credibility. Once the other Detective claims to the mouth, BloodyC0bbler knows and then the Detectives are dead. While this is a very far-fetched and hindsight-induced scenario, it seems in my mind something very likely for BloodyC0bbler to do. He could remain in the shadows while still garnering town credit for offing a red, and it's just the sort of PM trap play he likes to engage in. I made a long post a while ago that was, sadly, ignored, which called for everybody to analyze each other. Since I see that there's not much discussion going on and I don't see that there will be much (why so inactive, town...) I once again propose for everybody to analyze somebody else, say the next surviving person above you or below you on the player roster. Either way, I don't care too much as I expect this to be ignored as well. well what can i say mob did a good job of getting rid of people that actually are talented analyzers and people who are active, they of course made sure to leave alive the inactive fucks like misder but i promise i will analyze at least one person shortly, i have a theory that leads me to believe chaoser and rasta are innocent and i will explain it in more detail as i go through and try to confirm it. for some reason im just getting a feeling that their alignment needs to be the same but ill see | ||
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people acting like proct are right now shouldnt be cleared and be like 'oh look he's helping out town by posting big blocks of text he can't be red!' dont judge him on his contributions at this point, judge him on his objectives. At this stage in the game it'd be perfectly fine for all of the mob to put themselves under the spotlight so long as to direct us to one more mis lync. not that im saying he's red, just keep that in mind you few people that actually read and post in this thread still! | ||
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On August 02 2010 06:50 Misder wrote: this is the way i play >.< this is my second mafia game, so that is the only one in the past. i guess you really cant judge from only one mafia game. Luckily, this mafia game will also support the fact even when I'm inactive, I will end up green. Actually, a lot in that mafia game thought a was mafia member... im pushing for you for night one kills in every game from now on | ||
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is at the point where BB suggests for the vets to claim, with the idea in mind that the GF himself was using a vet cover. i think this should clear BB, or im hoping the mob didnt read into it deeply enough to try a move like that, but more so the people that opposed the idea of vets claiming who are still alive. You can obviously see BC opposing this idea (even though it is a reasonable idea to oppose, it is extra pertinent for the mob as this is their GF's cover) and i couldnt see a mob member so strongly pushing for this idea if he knew his own GF had this role, or at least i hope not i dont think there is much to be had out from this early idea than taking a clearer look at bb's alignment but it is always helpful to narrow down that list it's around page 36 for you lazy dudes also a fun person to put under the spotlight will be pyrr! never been in danger of dying yet...for good reason or not? | ||
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On August 02 2010 13:41 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Well was BB checked by a DT or not? I saw he posted himself as "confirmed townie" but maybe he just meant from his point of view he is a confirmed townie. he is not confirmed in any way i was just suggesting based on him pushing for vets to claim that he probably isnt mafia because if he was coordinating for vets to claim with bc then bc would have ya know claimed at some point. I mean that can obviously be risky with counter claims but im sure bc is persuasive enough to dodge a lynch for one day and to out both vets + get town to lynch one of them is a fine trade for a gf, id think. (and maybe even getting others blues to pm him pre maturely or something dunno) hard to say that's why i want other peoples input and it's good we are getting it! | ||
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On August 02 2010 14:02 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Lol just read that post I must have skipped over it before. This was some pretty good analysis by him; no one should have voted tree.hugger after reading this. Why did you vote Tree.Hugger, OpZ? i think him doing analysis like that is no reason to dismiss rasta himself though, since obviously a mafia could pick any town player, do a long analysis and come to the correct conclusion that he is town. But i wouldnt think they would do this of a player that might get lynched, so i think this does quite strongly back him, but i obviously dont think he's that suspicious to begin with | ||
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On August 03 2010 02:10 Misder wrote: + Show Spoiler [Day 3 Votes] + SouthRawrea tree.hugger Amber[Light] BloodyCobbler Pandain Chaoser Pyrrhuloxia Protactinium Rastaban Infudibulum BrownBear Divinek SouthRawrea (8) Tricode Xelin bumatlarge zeks lakrismamma SiNiquity Abstain (2) Opz Opz (1) d3_crescentia Pyrrhuloxia (1) Misder Protactinium (1) LaXerCannon We can almost gaurantee that the rest of the mafia voted citi.zen because otherwise, SouthRawrea would have been every close to being lynched. Anyways, everyone that voted for SouthRawrea is confirmed already. The only people that didn't vote for citi.zen or SouthRawrea are ~Opz~, Subversion, d3, Misder, and LaXerCannon. These are the hardest to figure out in the vote. However, Subversion is dead confirmed detective, LaXerCannon is dead confirmed miller. The only other people are ~Opz~, d3, and Misder. d3 is most likely town aligned (why is this really? All he did was claim medic protection. That doesn't mean his is town aligned, just that he was saved... why does this make him a townie?). So who's left in the didn't vote for either is ~Opz~ and Misder. ~Opz~ abstained; I don't recall the reasoning on this one and I can't find his post where he voted abstain...did he even vote? (also, as I was looking through his posts, he pointed out that Xelin may be mafia). Misder was out the entire day and he voted based on DTA's request the previous day. I never had any specific connection to BC. The only thing I can recall is BC claiming that I was townie, but he also did that with zeks the Mad Hatter. Then I didn't want to vote BC on Day 4, but I wasn't the only one tricked by him + I voted for SouthRawrea the mafia. i dont get the point of your post at all. This is basically spam if you look at what you're trying to do with this post. Since you believe d3 to be town, and you know your alignment why didnt you follow this up with a vote for opz if you're sticking to your reasoning etc? pretty weak play imo | ||
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On August 03 2010 05:45 Protactinium wrote: At least there are more pages to read now. I'm typing up one of my long posts, and it's going to take me an hour or two... For now though, I'm going to ##Vote: Pyrrhuloxia I'm somewhat baffled that he has stayed alive this long. Through this game Mafia have wanted to kill big names early on to prevent town unity. The fact that Pyrrhuloxia remains alive is thus slightly intriguing, but it could be another layer of WiFOM. However, please do note that I am suspicious of Chaoser. He posted more than 24 hours saying he would be back, and if he's on the east coast it's almost 5:00 p.m. I just don't want to vote for him now since that'd place him very close to majority. Typing longer post. note the lack of interaction between pyrr and chaoser hm indeed! | ||
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should be interesting. right now it's like 2 rasta, 4 chaoser, 3 pyrr *note this vote count may not be accurate since im not bm and i of course encourage you to verify it yourself if you doubt it etc etc. and we need 6 for majority i believe. | ||
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On August 03 2010 05:58 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Vote is obviously to try to save myself. Rastaban's post is good but it still seems to me Misder is the best suspect. If I die today please go after Misder next. how do you feel about chaoser? i mean yeah it was a save yourself vote but what are some true beliefs you have about him so far, as he seems quite a prime suspect at this point based on the votes alone | ||
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On August 03 2010 06:06 Protactinium wrote: To be honest, going back and reading things over I'm more amazed now that Chaoser hasn't died since he's had all that suspicion on him. I'm terrible at vote analysis, but it does seem that he was saved. Still though, it's now been 27 hours since he promised to post something. If he doesn't post something substantial soon, I'm going to switch my vote to him. well young tried to have him killed many times, i have no doubt his mob buddies helped him out quite a bit, that is i suppose if he is mob | ||
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On August 03 2010 07:28 chaoser wrote: And recently I've been unable to fully do much to help the town cause I've been prepping for medical school interviews that have been coming up so that's why I've been doing one liners and such. Msot of my spam was with Pan just cause I love playing with him ingame and in PM <3 Pandain, sorry I helped lynch you =[ well yeah dont let some silly game get in the way of the really important stuff but we really do want people putting forth a REAL effort whenever they get the chance bro! | ||
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at least chaoser can save himself if he so chooses | ||
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On August 03 2010 08:49 Protactinium wrote: No, I just realized that was the fifth vote on Chaoser. ##Vote: BrownBear until he comes back to do some talking. technically you have to unvote until you can move your vote, i think | ||
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I think tree.hugger, divinek, and Protactinium are the most suspicious. Divinek for sure should be looked at closely when Pandain flips miller. I think rastaban is likely innocent. seems like someone talking who knows more than a townie would | ||
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On August 03 2010 09:06 Protactinium wrote: To be honest, that's all just semantics. But if it makes you happy, good sir. ##Unvote: Chaoser ##Vote: BrownBear well bm didnt count a vote before cause of it lol so i was just letting you know dude | ||
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On August 03 2010 09:07 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: I agree, but is it because he is in mafia, or because he was in town circle? oh he's been in no circles | ||
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was there some plan they were coming up with in order for bb to push vets to claim so bc could stay hidden or something? and he was a person who was arguing for bc's lynch quite vehemently, but could this also not been a part of trying to clear his name? It's all up to people's interpretations of other's actions really. That and you have to factor in bc planning this out for other people to do blah blah blah. Words are so uncertain | ||
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On August 03 2010 09:27 chaoser wrote: it's 4/4 on me/pyrr right? no with your vote it's 5 on pyrr 4 on you | ||
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On August 03 2010 09:32 chaoser wrote: I don't understand why d3 isn't doing more since he seems to be confirmed right? him and tricode are sacks of dung as far as i can tell | ||
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##unvote ##vote brownbear | ||
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someone can check that if they want since our host isnt updating us | ||
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and come on it's not like bm hasn't been changing things all game | ||
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On August 03 2010 10:08 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Lol BM is leaving it all up in the air the suspense is killing me. This is why when I hosted I always put the end time in bold in the day / night starting post so people would know when it ended even if I wasn't around. well that's the thing, the most specific thing we've got is 24 hours at 10:38 so in all reasonable reason that should be the end time, because that's exactly what he's said and he didnt specify otherwise and he didnt set the time and say it would be unchanging, otherwise that is EXTREMELY unfair to town in situations such as these where people do all kinds of last minute flan dangling and such so i think the only reasonable thing to do would be to end the day at 10:38 | ||
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but i might actually be happy with chaoser dying just to satiate then unrelenting spirit of young, and he's hungry for blood | ||
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On August 03 2010 12:49 zeks wrote: it'd be 4 town vs 3 mafia if pyrr flips town, +2 town from kills mafia or not chaoser shouldn't have to die imho yeah if they're both town it's 4v3 so we dont lose but yeahhhhhhh | ||
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god damn it why does pandain keep randomly pm'ing me | ||
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oh the humanity of it all | ||
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make's the end game so much funnier | ||
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On August 04 2010 16:52 flamewheel wrote: Hello! Out of curiosity, why do people capitalize my name? same thing happens with the other id i use that is all lower case it really irritates me actually so was chaoser town or what, i want him to be mafia just so we can laff also i fail to see how this delayed the day by 28 hours but whatever | ||
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, i need to learn how to push on people harder! god damn inactive sheep townies voting for people that have real looking evidence!i wish my other confirmed townies like actually talked to me once in a while was a fun game though for sure cheers. | ||
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On August 05 2010 08:49 Pandain wrote: Not if they save pandas for a living! Also, I think being the SECOND miller really hurt me :/. Hehe, I was wondering whether I was a miller and than Laxer shows to be miller. I breathe a sigh of relief, too soon. what it didnt really hurt you, you'd have still died if you dt check red bro | ||
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On August 05 2010 09:00 Misder wrote: psshhh. At least I was right on my votes on rastaban/pyrr.  yay, i voted for pyrr too :D, but im too weak in letting people stay alive for too long in hopes i can get more out of them. Which has worked like half the time so far so yeahhh. we still shoulda lynched your inactive ass | ||
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On August 05 2010 06:32 Protactinium wrote: I believe that was more Divinek just claiming Veteran to BloodyC0bbler... yeah but he talked back enough to peg him as red for me so i figured it was a fair trade. really i thought they might think i was some other blue role just bs'ing as vet so they wouldnt hit me then they might etc etc | ||
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On August 05 2010 09:05 Pandain wrote: No offense, but I think that got ruined when you told the whole town you were vet lol. no offense but at that point they knew pretty well that i was a vet lol! | ||
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So yay for learning | ||
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On August 05 2010 09:37 Incognito wrote: I want to see a game where foolishness survives past day 1 when hes NOT mafia. i think that requires him and radfield being in the same game, and both not red | ||
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On August 05 2010 11:25 youngminii wrote: If I had lived one more day, I would've tried to lynch you rastaban, but then I had absolutely no clue on Protactinium and would've lost anyways. Oh well, whatever doesn't kill us makes us stronger. my final list was proct/pyrr/opz, that i posted somewhere. If you'd have gotten rasta killed we would have won almost certainly. It's just since he lived he convinced me that chaoser would be an alright lynch target for the day since i was way too lazy to go through pyrr's or procts post history and find real evidence like he did against chaoser. i literally opened up their historys and went 'haha fuck this' then went outside. Sigh lazyness makes me sad so i had the other 2/3 covered bro | ||
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On August 05 2010 11:19 rastaban wrote: I really wished that chaoser had been scum because your play reminded me of this. Focusing on Scum When I did my post analysis of Chaoser I noticed that he and I had played almost identically, I was hoping I wouldn't get called on it due to the shortage of time and him being defensive. nope everyone was pretty much inactive by this time except the mob so it was pretty unlikely you'd get called on anything well played! | ||
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On August 05 2010 12:17 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: i just wanna apologize for giving up after citi flipped town. i was really frustrated and honestly didn't feel like playing anymore. i hardly felt like going when the rules starting changing on the fly it hurt the entire time | ||
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On August 05 2010 16:12 Misder wrote: I did Too bad I'm not good at this game tho...posting more than once a week is a step in the right direction! | ||
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