TL Mafia XXVIII - Page 6

On July 25 2010 07:18 lakrismamma wrote:

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Citi.zen was cleared if no other claimed mad hatter. If he is clear then his DT should be clear if it is as he says? Now the situation is different.

Misder was more of an observation. Im not so sure you are mafia now. Since I get to choose between citi.zen and Southrawrea south is far more likely and that would prove you right,

Will you believe in citi.zen if South turns out red?




Sure play the newbie card. What you really is trying to do here is make citi tell where he has his bombs right?




WTF!! This is so mafia why should he tell where he placed his bombs. Only mafia has the need to know if the bombs are placed on them or not. You practicly told us you are mafia.

##unvote
##vote southrawrea

On July 25 2010 07:15 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
You know on the other hand, if citizen is red this play doesn't make a lot of sense either, I mean mafia are at an advantage and a gambit like this is really risky and i'm not sure why he would do that instead of just playing it safe.

Ugh, this is confusing.

On July 25 2010 07:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


Thing is your wrong. Citizen being lynched reveals us
A) he is hatter
b) he is gf
c) he is suicide bomber
d)he is townie playing huge gambit
e) he is dt (would be bad and he would have to claim this to save himself, although by lying once he could be doing it twice)

Now, if he is hatter, he dies kills two people (we get info based on who died remember), we get info based on those heavily accusing him, we get a confirmed dt (the one that checked him has checked someone else remember) his dt can then check the other dt confirming him and the circle is formed regardless and we get a ton of info.

We lynch southrawr
A) is mafia trying to save himself
B) is hatter with one bomb on chaoser
C) he flips green and we all go wtf

If he dies, we find out hes either a red trying to save himself or that hes a hatter with a bomb on someone you have been pressuring to kill all game. Regardless of his death, all we know is he was inactive till being called out. we get no info on really anyone else in this game. You just want to get chaoser killed and are pushing this.

On July 25 2010 07:40 SiNiquity wrote:
I bet Tricode and BC are cackling maniacally at their good fortune. Kill a medic, claim 3rd hit + protection (both unverifiable), draw out the other 2 KP roles. Let them kill each other. Bonus is that they're both hatters instead of vigilantes.

So much for 50/50.

On July 25 2010 07:50 zeks wrote:


I would think Tricode's story is the most believable.

On July 25 2010 07:54 tree.hugger wrote:

I think we gain plenty of information about this, seeing as how we have a 50% chance at catching mafia, and this is a split vote. Role list analyzing is going to be cake after today.

I call upon every player in this game to vote for either citi.zen or South. One of them is confirmed mafia. There is no hiding under this "I think they're all innocent" nonsense. Pick one.

But more importantly, pick citi.zen.

There are four possible outcomes:
If we lynch citi.zen the Mafia: Then it's the coup de grâce. We've taken out their best player, and we have two confirmed town members to form a circle around.

If we lynch citi.zen the Mad Hatter: Then we still have an intact town circle with a DT and a person who was checked. Also, citi.zen's bombs go off, and two people die. It's not unreasonable to assume that citi.zen, being an experienced mafia player and scum-hunter will have caught at least one mafia in his net. I'd trust his bomb placement, providing he has them.

If we lynch Southrawrea the Mafia: Then we've taken out the newest, or one of the newest members of the mafia team. That's about it.

If we lynch Southrawrea the Mad Hatter: Then chaoser dies—another player who is newer, and not really driving any buses. I know youngminii thinks he's mafia, but I think that's just silly. Decide for yourself, but I'd trust citi.zen's judgment in bomb placing over Southrawrea.

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I think out of these four options, assuming for a moment that the probability of either being mafia is 50/50, then the obvious better outcomes will come from lynching citi.zen. I hardly think there's anything to recommend Southrawrea as a natural mafia, or even a natural mafia selection to go out and try to sabotage this plan. On the flip side, pretty much the only player on TL who I would expect to pull something as crazy as a MH/town circle claim as mafia is citi.zen. I think, if we're talking character types, citi.zen fits, and Southrawrea does not.

On July 25 2010 08:18 youngminii wrote:
Here's some credibility for citi.zen. I don't care if you don't read this but know that if you're town and citi.zen dies tonight you have played against your win condition by a big deal.

I represented my DT and claimed to citi.zen. Rastaban did the same. Citi.zen got two DT claims and so he knows something is wrong. If he was scum, he would have kept going as if everything was normal. Instead, he made both rastaban and myself aware that there were more than one DT group claiming.

Citi.zen is in the best position possible as town and you should all see that.

On July 25 2010 08:14 citi.zen wrote:
Town, if you really think I am red and out of the blue decided to fake claim in a game where nobody had put any pressure on me, you deserve to lose.

I am out with the family for the evening. If you find that scummy on a Saturday I am speechless.

Make the right call and this is over. The reds risked everything today: try to go after my credibility, try to question a solid plan on unfounded grounds, fake-claim right when a majority of players had correctly concluded I was telling the tuyth, try to get me lynched "to reveal information" (really to stop me from linking the two circles tonight). Just read the thread to see who did this - it's transparent as hell.

On July 25 2010 08:33 chaoser wrote:
guys, please respond to the VERY scummy thing that he did which is keep the triple claim for DT from town. That's VERY WEIRD.

On July 25 2010 08:41 citi.zen wrote:
The confirmed dt knows of all the claims. I will not reveal their names publicly at this point - it would condemn the real one. It also has no bearing on what you guys need to do: lynch south so you get a 1pp% confirmed red. One way or another.

On July 25 2010 08:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


If your here long enough to post a comment like that, please go back and talk about issues pointed at you, stop random picking.

You got called out on a scum move, defend yourself, stop avoiding it. Saying "i passed all info onto my dt" isn't a defense when your suspected scum, as all it implies is you handed the info to your team.

On July 25 2010 08:54 Amber[LighT] wrote:
What exactly are the chances that a mafia member can guess someone is a mad hatter so easily anyway? That's pretty random imo

Were citi.zen's tells that simple to the mafia?

On July 25 2010 08:44 tree.hugger wrote:

DTA is a good enough player to know that he would've had to claim or non-claim in that situation. Lynching DTA was a poor mistake.

On July 25 2010 09:58 bumatlarge wrote:
Oh wow I missed Citizens vanilla claim the fuck

On July 25 2010 10:02 citi.zen wrote:

You're not this bad either. Supposedly.