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Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 15 2010 05:59 GMT
#121
I would like to play.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 15 2010 22:04 GMT
#144
Me gusta los clues. No clues is fine too, though.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 17 2010 04:57 GMT
#242
? The game started? Why was there voting before the first morning post?
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 17 2010 05:17 GMT
#245
Lol now that I've read the thread I see people were just messing around. I assume there are no clues since the vote went that way, right?
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 17 2010 05:35 GMT
#250
On July 17 2010 14:34 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2010 14:31 Bill Murray wrote:
no clues, sir

BM said SIR, Pyrr is obviously Godfather.

No, he's just obviously intolerant of my sex change.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 17 2010 05:42 GMT
#253
On July 17 2010 14:38 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2010 14:35 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
On July 17 2010 14:34 youngminii wrote:
On July 17 2010 14:31 Bill Murray wrote:
no clues, sir

BM said SIR, Pyrr is obviously Godfather.

No, he's just obviously intolerant of my sex change.

I didn't know the GF was a girl.

Actually if the gf is a girl, she is given the title Fairy Godmother and she's like a medic except I get double the prots per night.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 17 2010 05:52 GMT
#257
On July 17 2010 14:49 SiNiquity wrote:
haha wow, I just had this big long post analyzing how we lost 4 people and trying to figure out if the Sheriff was some special role that just wasn't mentioned and wondering whether Ver was really dead or. But then I realized...

+ Show Spoiler +
The people killed on the first morning are not in the list of 30.



Yeah it is traditional that the first day post involves the killing of the game host and other people not playing / helping run the game.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 17 2010 05:53 GMT
#258
On July 17 2010 14:43 youngminii wrote:
^ That made me rofl.

I just got my wisdom tooth taken out, I want my money bitch.
##Vote Pyrrhuloxia

Why you vote for me? I won't give you money if you are trying to kill me
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 17 2010 17:56 GMT
#281
On July 18 2010 01:29 rastaban wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2010 01:10 Tricode wrote:
You guys ramble to much. Usually a vet in the game would come up with a plan by now. but right now seems to be like we can't do much anyways.

Though the usual kill the least inactive idiot always seems to be a good idea, one of them is usually mafia anyways.

As for a final note, I am always up for killing the Cobbler. It is my soul purpose of entering these games.


He was a goon last game so I support this accusation! Once I am finished with the GF citi.zen BC is next.

( BM, I have a vote on citi.zen but I haven't been listed in any of the vote counts recently, just wanted to point that out. I will be casting a real vote later but just in case don't want to be modkilled. )


As for plans, the last game I was in was a custom cult setup so it was easier to try and think of ways to try and break the game. This game is closer to a standard setup so it seems like there is no perfect plan.

That being said the simple plans that I could see would be to setup a pattern for DTs to investigate so there is no overlap. Something like start from your location and go down the list, if you find the other DT then start going up for your position so we get the most coverage. The down to this is that most likely the DTs would do better using their own scum judgment to hunt despite the possibility to overlap.

There are other useful plans, but as I stated earlier a lot of plans hinge on the town having some open roles, and until the bomber is dead we really have no way of protecting claimants. We need to get him first and then a lot of different plans will be open to us.

PMs are in this game, but I am unfamiliar with how they should be used. should I be messaging most people and trying feel them out, wait until I have a good feeling about their role and then contact them, or just wait for something like a DT to contact me. How should we be working the PMs?

I like your "down the list" idea
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 18 2010 00:04 GMT
#319
If we randomly pick someone, we have a better chance of getting a blue then a red. Why don't we try voting for who we think is red? It's not like the game will automatically get easier for us as it goes on, since there aren't any clues. Also, at this point everyone's votes are spread out so we are nearly guaranteed an innocent lynch. Getting everyone to agree to vote for the random could be awfully tough.

IF we wanted to do the random thing, we could tie it in advance to something numerical in one or both of the playoff games tonight. Like number of factories made by WeMade players, or that number divided by two, or taking the number of letters in each winning player's ID and looping back to 1 if it goes over 30. It wouldn't be random, but we could independently agree on it, and none of us could influence it in advance. We don't know the distribution of red/blue/green in the list so it is almost as good as random unless the reds get us to agree on a bad number (like maybe they get us to agree on something times 2, which would never land on the first person on the list).
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 18 2010 00:06 GMT
#320
Where's foolishness? That guy's usually pretty active.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 18 2010 02:15 GMT
#345
#abstain
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 18 2010 08:03 GMT
#405
On July 18 2010 16:07 Bill Murray wrote:
good idea, spoil that shit, bro!

You might wanna put a spoiler description. Please do. Otherwise people might think it is something important to the game that you just compacted to have it not take up a ton of space.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 18 2010 08:34 GMT
#407
My thoughts: hyperbola is prolly just a quick trigger townie; I'd think a mafia would be too skittish to CONTINUE with it, especially when voting is so thin at this point. Mafia wouldn't have to be desperate as of now. Townie or red, hyperbola is obviously desperate now, with so many votes against him. But the desperation started and caused the bandwagon (according to Pandain). When the hyperbola bandwagon started, voting was evened out so there wouldn't be a need for mafia to bandwagon on someone. Mafia don't really tend to bandwagon anyone day one, at least they don't start the first bandwagon. They might start a second bandwagon to save someone's ass. Doesn't really help prove anyone innocent but I think hyperbola's behavior could be townie and the voting against him could be townie too. In better words, neither action really stick out at me as suspicious but no one's exonerated. Maybe if a team of people desperately work to save him there could be something going on.

I'd like to hear why foolishness is so quiet this game. I've seen him in games as green and games as blue (DT). Both times he was really active and talkative and was somewhat of a leader with plans and so on. I've never seen him quiet and I've never seen him red. Could be an irl thing, could be something else.

Darth...'s plan to "maximize" deaths on Day 1 strikes me as poor thinking. I get that it gets us information, so this could certainly be a townie sentiment. However, I've been red in many past games and I often got pissed off at how much harder it could be to win with just one more townie alive at the end, due to a non-lynch or something similar.

At this point, my vote really is between Darth and hyperbola because it seems too late to rally the town anywhere else. Hyperbola strikes me as green running mouth. The reactions to that at least give the town something, even if he's red. Darth's hanging back and saying something that could be a subtle red move or a legitimate townie move.

Yeah I double checked his other posts, and everything else is Darth clown spamming. As someone nicely put it: he's playing like Chezinu. So I can't be made to feel guilty about voting for him.

##unvote
##vote DarthTheinAn
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 19 2010 23:02 GMT
#550
On July 20 2010 07:44 Foolishness wrote:
So if I'm understanding this, youngminii was ahead in the votes, then BrownBear and bumatlarge voted for Hyperbola, which pushed Hyperbola ahead in the voting (and he stayed ahead until day end). So it's possible there was a push to save youngminii from being lynched.

Of course please correct me if I'm mistaken. The people above me who are doing the vote tally are very very very unorganized with their posts.

From looking at the post after this one, I think Hyperbola had 5 to youngminii's 4, and then brownbear and bumatlarge made it 7-4.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 19 2010 23:07 GMT
#555
On July 20 2010 07:15 LaXerCannon wrote:
Resources (fixed)
+ Show Spoiler +
Jayme -> Amber[light]
Pandain -> abstain
DTA -> Abstain -> d3_crescentia
d3_crescentia -> DTA
DTA -> Unabstain
citi.zen -> DTA
rastaban -> citi.zen
youngminii -> Pyrrhuloxia
Pandain -> Incognito
SouthRawrea -> Abstain
~OpZ~ -> Chaoser
BloodyC0bbler -> Abstain
bumatlarge -> Divinek
Pandain -> BloodyC0bbler
Hyperbola -> SiNiquity
LaXercannon -> Abstain
Youngminii -> Abstain
Divinek -> Abstain
Tricode -> Abstain
Misder -> Hyperbola
Divinek -> Hyperbola
Pandain -> Hyperbola
Pyrrhuloxia -> Abstain
zeks -> Hyperbola
SiNiquity -> Hyperbola
Roffles -> Abstain
tree.hugger -> LaXercannon
Foolishness -> Abstain
lakrismamma -> LaXercannon
lakrismamma -> Subversion
BloodyC0bbler -> Pandain
~OpZ~ -> BloodyC0bbler
Pyrrhuloxia -> DTA
XeliN -> Brownbear
iNfuNdiBuLuM -> youngminii
youngminii -> iNfuNdiBuLuM
citi.zen -> ketomai
XeliN -> youngminii
chaoser -> abstain
Amber[LighT] -> abstain
treehugger -> DTA
Amber[LighT] -> youngminii
Roffles -> youngminii
lakrismamma -> ketomai
DTA -> Amber[LighT]
bumatlarge -> Hyperbola
BrownBear -> Hyperbola
Jayme -> Youngminii
Foolishness -> BloodyC0bbler
Misder -> LaXerCannon
zeks -> abstain
Subversion -> Hyperbola


BloodyC0bbler -> Abstain -> Pandain
bumatlarge -> Divinek -> Hyperbola*
BrownBear -> Hyperbola*
Chaoser -> Abstain
citi.zen -> ketomai
d3_crescentia -> DTA
Divinek -> Abstain -> Hyperbola*
DTA -> Abstain -> Amber[LighT]
Foolishness -> Abstain -> BloodyC0bbler
Hyperbola -> SiNiquity
iNfuNdiBuLuM -> youngminii
Jayme -> Amber[Light] -> youngminii
lakrismamma -> LaXerCannon -> Subversion -> ketomai
LaXercannon -> Abstain
Misder -> Hyperbola* -> LaXercannon
~OpZ~ -> Chaoser -> BloodyC0bbler
Pandain -> Abstain -> Incognito (?) -> BloodyC0bbler -> Hyperbola*
Protactinium -> Abstain
Pyrrhuloxia -> Abstain -> DTA
rastaban -> citi.zen
Roffles -> Abstain
SiNiquity -> Hyperbola*
SouthRawrea -> Abstain
Subversion -> Hyperbola
Tricode -> Abstain
tree.hugger -> LaXerCannon
XeliN -> Brownbear -> youngminii
youngminii -> Pyrrhuloxia -> abstain -> iNfuNdiBuLuM
zeks -> Hyperbola* -> abstain


What interests me is this block of voting:
Misder -> Hyperbola
Divinek -> Hyperbola
Pandain -> Hyperbola
Pyrrhuloxia -> Abstain
zeks -> Hyperbola
SiNiquity -> Hyperbola

and these people:
Misder -> Hyperbola* -> LaXercannon
zeks -> Hyperbola* -> abstain

My head hurts so I'll just give a couple one liners for now (I've been digging through this damned thread for like an eternity)

The Hyperbola bandwagon
Misder @ 10:43
Divinek @ 10:51
Pandain @ 10:56
zeks @ 11:22
SiNiquity @ 11:37

Within an hour, Hyperbola gets bandwagonned and is in first place:
Show nested quote +
5] Hyperbola (Misder, Divinek, Pandain, Zeks, SiNiquity)
2] DarthThienAn (d3_crescentia, citi.zen)
1] Amber[LighT] (jayme),
1] d3_crescentia (darthThienAn),
1] citi.zen (rastaban)
1] chaoser (~opz~)
1] Divinek (bumatlarge)
1] SiNiquity (Hyperbola)
6] abstain (BloodyC0bbler, LaXerCannon, youngminii, tricode, Pyrrhuloxia, Roffles)
@ 11:37 (after roffles' vote)

Definitely suspicious considering how fast and compact the votes were together

Misder -> Hyperbola* -> LaXercannon
zeks -> Hyperbola*
-> abstain

Misder -> starts bandwagon, jumps off when Hyperbola's screwed
zeks -> fourth voter for bandwagon, jumps off when Hyperbola's screwed

attempts at lowering suspicion?

When this supposed bandwagon started, I believe no one had more than one vote. I can't see more than one or two reds organizing a vote against youngminii in this situation. Reds bandwagon to save their own and no one was in mortal danger. Even if they thought youngminii was blue (I didn't see any reason to think that), they could kill him at night. Herd mentality isn't suspicious, it's par for the course.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 19 2010 23:08 GMT
#557
On July 20 2010 08:04 SouthRawrea wrote:
Talking at night is stupid D:. It takes away from what the game is supposed to be.

I've never played a game without it... Don't see any reason things have to be like the parlor game so much.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 20 2010 05:25 GMT
#630
##vote decafchicken
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 20 2010 05:31 GMT
#635
Okay, so someone survived a hit last night. Should the medic and victim claim to each other? Alternatively, should the veteran role claim? I know we've had vets role claim after being hit in the past, but it does give the mafia more info that could help them plan out further hits.

Oh, also I suppose the mafia might have really really wanted Foolishness dead and put two hits on him. Or only sent in one hit but I don't think any team would ever agree to that unless it was led by the dark triumvirate of oczec darth and chezinu. And even then darth already admitted he wants as much blood to spill as possible.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 20 2010 05:54 GMT
#649
On July 20 2010 14:38 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
oh and d3 beats me to the punch because i don't refresh.

derp

of course maybe he's actually someone that was saved by a medic and he's fooling!
or maybe he's red or bored townie and effing with us but yeah
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