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On July 25 2010 08:38 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2010 08:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
I think another thing I wonder and could be horrifically wrong here, but if he has two dt claims that he kept to himself, is it possible he was trying to fish for dt names elsewhere as well? Not sure if its likely but ugh, I am now even more paranoid. He didn't keep it to himself, he basically informed me and rastaban. Also, that's a good point. Another reason why he didn't tell everyone is in case there were others who would try to claim to represent a DT group. Thanks for helping citi.zen's case.
Except your missing the point. You and rasta did nothing on said info till citizen looked suspicious. HIM not telling the town doesn't help his case. If he was red he would keep it up longer to get info out of the two of you, if he was town saying "have two claims, have a red' is all he would have needed. IT doesnt out anyone and if hes legit his dt can confirm.
It doesn't help his case in the least.
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Only one phrase really sums up citizens post
Lynch all Liars
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On July 25 2010 10:00 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2010 09:58 Pandain wrote:On July 25 2010 09:55 bumatlarge wrote:Just wanna go over tricodes posts to find something + Show Spoiler +On July 18 2010 07:56 Tricode wrote:
From that list above i believe it can be a agreed on a majority is saying we should lynch an inactive. Other then that I don't really feel like we have enough information yet to even try to snipe someone....well unless they're is a very stupid mafia member. On July 18 2010 10:30 Tricode wrote:
##vote abstain
Just doing this if I don't make it tomorrow to vote. My dad is spending his last full day at home before he has to leave for a few months for work.
Other then that, I do suggest we lynch an inactive.
1.if we keep abstaining cause we are always uncertain of what to do, we will never push to killing and finding a mafia member if we went at that rate.
2. That person who is being inactive is probably useless to us anyways just because they are not doing anything to participate.
3. One of the inactive are likely to be mafia just because there is usually one or two guys that are inactive or just post a little bit just so they can stay alive.
Either case, we won't accomplish anything by abstaining, it might even hurt us cause if we keep the option in our head we might use it to much in fear of constantly killing townies/blues and such. So I suggest try keeping abstains as placeholders or if you are truly uncertain in what to do.
Otherwise I encourage and highly suggest that we always use our lynches.
On July 18 2010 10:45 Tricode wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2010 10:40 youngminii wrote:On July 18 2010 10:13 SiNiquity wrote:On July 18 2010 09:59 youngminii wrote:On July 18 2010 09:51 Bill Murray wrote:
EVERYONE abstaining? I guess it'd no lynch. Didn't expect that to happen! Okay so everyone should abstain imo. If you have any objections to this idea, please raise it asap because we need everyone to switch their vote to abstaining. Even one vote = lynch and that will be very suspicious of the person who left their vote by 'accident'. ##Unvote Pyrr
##Vote Abstain I'm not sure I like it. The inactives will get modkilled, no one gets lynched, the mafia kills 2 more people, and then we're back at square one, no? On July 18 2010 10:16 Jayme wrote:
No-Lynch?
Oh hell no absolutely not.
I don't understand how a no-lynch is beneficial to the town if you're going to kill an inactive anyway. You learn absolutely nothing from it, you don't even have a CHANCE at hitting a red, and you're basically wasting a whole day on nothing.
No lynch is a terrible idea. If we lynch someone on the first day without any good reason there's a solid chance (12/15) that we'll hit a townie. That's 80%. There's also a better chance of lynching a blue than there is of scum. A no lynch is a gift that we should utilize instead of RVS. Keep using that reasoning through the whole game. Mind you that there are clever players and mafia will always try to manipulate the game by lying. Add to the equation everyone's fear of being lynched. Then add the fact we have no clues. Mafia don't have to really say anything. You would have to leave the game to a dt (if they find someone and if they come out) to tell you who is red. Then add the fact if that DT is really a dt. But like i said, try using your reasoning through out the whole game if we just kept abstaining cause we aren't sure all the time. On July 21 2010 04:02 Tricode wrote:
Hey just finished catching up, sorry for inactivity had to drop my dad off the airport last night and then went to a relatives house. Also every time i refresh or hit next page, it seems like you guys would just add another page on me!
There was just so much to read!
As for now, I find BrownBear's ideas are unhelpful. Wanting to have our vets reveal themselves. Might be a good plan for other circumstances, but in your one and only example that you gave where your scenario worked, you seemed to have some godly player who was just able to survive for once. That doesn't mean that same scenario can apply here (no offense to you vets).
Also this doesn't take the heat off BrownBear for his posts earlier and inactivity especially how BB voted. It seems like you just analyzed a situation real quick came up with a game plan to throw people off your back. I feel you are a better player then how you are presenting yourself this game and I will be awaiting to see more of your responses before making a vote.
Also a few of you seem to be causing annoying chaos. I would keep an eye on these people. They could possibly be a mafia member who are trying to be active, but just annoying enough to act like a stupid townie and cause confusion. Like DTA (though he could just think acting like this would keep him alive in the game for what ever purposes he has in mind, even just being a townie that just wants to avoid mafia attention).
For w/e reason (I'm desperately looking for a job/Real life shit/ video games) if I am absent for the time being I will vote for BB for how odd he is so far in this game with inactivity, his vote, his suggestion that seems to only distract attention from him, what others have pointed out about him, and I feel he hasn't portrayed himself in this game like he did in the last game I played with him where he had more of a dominate presence that helped the town. My vote will change if there is a better candidate.
##Vote BrownBear On July 22 2010 12:07 Tricode wrote:
This is pathetic, it took me a whole freaken day just to catch up to all your posts and even then I had to skim through some of them and the crap that you guys filled it up with.
There is just way too much chaos and this game is moving faster then I can keep up.
The only reason I see for killing Darth is because his nonsense is causing more confusion to the game more then others, but there are still others who are causing confusion.
With this madness I am abstaining so I can watch and see what unfolds. Hopefully everyone can start watching and reading to things more carefully instead of cluster fucking the thread with useless information that does not help the case or killing someone for hindrance reasoning.
Though I am believing we are in need of a plan and looking into analyzing what people say more. Though if people like DTA keep their shit up, it will become more difficult to do this cause it is distracting.
Also please people don't just see one little action and instantly call out mafia. Try to watch the person and build up a reasonable case. I am betting a portion of you are just confused and not sure what to do and just voting with the crowd or who ever argues the most aggressively.
For now I am abstaining my vote like i said, for reasons of just wanting to have a bit more solidness of reasoning in who I pick and vote for.
##unvote
##vote abstain
So far he doesn't mention BC once, which I find odd. If he planned on hitting him, it was certainly spur of the moment. Why wouldn't he pick one of the people he mentioned? I also find it weird that he now supports BC :/ sounds fairly wishy washy. On July 23 2010 16:11 Tricode wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 16:07 d3_crescentia wrote:On July 23 2010 15:52 SiNiquity wrote:
Right. But there's .. *double checks BM's post* 12 townies, 7 blues remaining. So the Vigi revealing gives the Mafia a 6/18 (33.33%) chance instead of 6/19 (31.58%) chance for hitting a "real blue."
But there's gotta be some other catch I'm missing. Or maybe I'm just wary of people roleclaiming in general which is why I'm getting that "vibe" from this plan. Don't think there's any real reason why mafia would be operating by chance. I feel like they're just trying to snipe blues, or people that would be useful. If the vigi reveals themselves + target, we can lynch them to confirm this information. Targeting Roffles or Jayme would reduce chances of BC being mafia since the mafia had no way of planning to put in one or two hits. One thing stands in the way of that, and that's BC's abilities to fake it. If BC himself was targeted by the vigi, then simply by lynching the vigi we can make some clear conclusions about BC. I don't really see the mafia making a fake claim if they know we're going to do this, considering that a 1-1 trade for them isn't very good, though it is possible they'd do this. If the vigi really DID flip blue, then it's harder to say but I believe it would semi-confirm BC. Am I making sense? I'm not sure I am. It's late. Yes and now after letting the vigi know you are going to lynch him lol, how do you propose in finding this vig? soft claims vig? On July 23 2010 16:24 Tricode wrote:
Meh fine I guess, I will take one for the team.
I was the vig. I was aiming at BC
Reasons:
Who the fuck didn't see it coming from me?
Also to the med who protected BC. I hate you with a true passion.
When you guys do kill me to prove what I am saying, I will be honest, I tried reading this thread but it is hard with flame wars and ridiculous claims and finger pointing.
The person under most of my suspicion is youngminii. From comments he had in the beginning when he seemed afraid that BC was accusing him as being mafia (which BC wasn't). To attacking and finger pointing anyone he had a chance to do so at.
Everyone was scummy for what ever lame reason and he tried to push it hard until he could jump to the next person. He jumped a lot from what I can tell.
Now knowing all of you, you will probably say what I am saying is B.S. and just lynch me.
In which I don't care and go ahead to prove what ever crap you want to believe in. After that I hope you all play well and good luck you will all need it.
If for w/e reason i do live. I will contribute w/e and do w/e to help the town, but to be honest I can't really keep up with how much you guys post. Might be just because of personal issues or something i have going on.
Also everyone should listen to BC keep him alive as long as possible. I trust him and so should you.
You will get your proof of innocence after my death. OK um wow, he says he thinks youngminii is suspicious, and starts saying he doesnt care if he gets lynched, which kinda makes it either seem like an apathetic towny who failed or a really deep scum trying to get away with being a vig, which in itself is pretty ridiculous. Says to trust BC which seems really fishy. Why is he trusting the person he tried to kill? On July 23 2010 16:35 Tricode wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 16:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On July 23 2010 16:29 d3_crescentia wrote:
wait what
that post doesn't even make sense
you aimed at BC but you don't want him to die? why the hell would you do that Ask fishball, hes done it to me once in the past. And I would of gotten away with it if it wasn't for that meddling medic! God way to ruin everything. Both he and BC play it off like D3 never even accused them of that... On July 23 2010 16:47 Tricode wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 16:38 Protactinium wrote:
Wow... uh... words cannot express how sad I am that my hour and some minutes spent writing that post just went to waste.
Still, read it anyway. I don't think Tricode is lying (though why would you target somebody you want to remain alive?) but just in case...
Good night town.
##Vote: Abstain
##Vote: Double Lynch You are the only one who has figured me out this whole game. Though I guess you don't know me, if you read my earlier posts I mention how I only join mafia games in hopes that one day I can kill BC. Since now I used up my vig, that dream has to remain for another game. Now I am basically a green townie with the vig name. So since I can't kill him might as well not be a true douche about it. What good would advocating his death and lying do? That would be beyond douchey of me if I did. Either case, my dream failed. So you gunned or him because you wanted to, how very untown-like I really dont feel comfortable keeping someone like this around, if there going to put some secret desire to kill someone for fun. And I don't think tricode is some noob player, which is weird. On July 24 2010 11:04 Tricode wrote:
##vote Abstain
Place holder.
I want to see what everyone says before I place my vote. On July 24 2010 15:55 Tricode wrote:
BC seems confident about southrawrea and does have good analysis on him. And I would like to lynch mafia this time round.
So
Changing my vote
##unvote youngmini
##Vote: southrawrea On July 25 2010 06:50 Tricode wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2010 06:47 SouthRawrea wrote:On July 25 2010 06:46 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On July 25 2010 06:31 zeks wrote:On July 25 2010 06:25 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On July 25 2010 06:17 zeks wrote:
#vote SouthRawrea
Mafia is essentially against a wall so they pushed their most inactive member out to die
How does that make any sense mafia is against a wall so they sacrificed someone who was going to be lynched anyway? if southrawrea is red it doesn't buy the mafia any extra time if he gets lynched 1. His claim is an effort to save himself and get our main man citi.zen killed in the process 2. SouthRawrea is obviously expendable 3. Town organization is becoming a LEGIT THREAT - we've forced the action on them so now they came up with an aggressive reply with South claiming. Scum probably wrote his posts up for him rofl Okay, I can see this line of thinking now. However, so far 1, seems to be backfiring since South has already garnered several votes. And i doubt he had his posts written for him; they're not persuasive at all. Put yourself in the mafias shoes. If citizen is really the hatter, how would you disrupt the plan? The strategies i detailed in my longish post on page 96 (i think its 96) involving false DT claims would be much more powerful and harder to combat than sending out SouthRawrea to meekly claim that he's the real Mad Hatter. Like I said before, never assume the mafia are idiots. The other possibility no one has mentioned is that BC and Tricode are both red and we have 2 Hatters (possible yes... realistic probably not) Oh wow.. never even considered 2 hatters... uh... There is only 2kp roles. So it's unlikely that there are 2 mad hatters when I'm the vig. Also instead of defending yourself, you seem to like to show your hard work that is irrelevant to this game and does not prove anything other then your busy. On July 25 2010 06:57 Tricode wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2010 06:53 SouthRawrea wrote:On July 25 2010 06:50 Tricode wrote:On July 25 2010 06:47 SouthRawrea wrote:On July 25 2010 06:46 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On July 25 2010 06:31 zeks wrote:On July 25 2010 06:25 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On July 25 2010 06:17 zeks wrote:
#vote SouthRawrea
Mafia is essentially against a wall so they pushed their most inactive member out to die
How does that make any sense mafia is against a wall so they sacrificed someone who was going to be lynched anyway? if southrawrea is red it doesn't buy the mafia any extra time if he gets lynched 1. His claim is an effort to save himself and get our main man citi.zen killed in the process 2. SouthRawrea is obviously expendable 3. Town organization is becoming a LEGIT THREAT - we've forced the action on them so now they came up with an aggressive reply with South claiming. Scum probably wrote his posts up for him rofl Okay, I can see this line of thinking now. However, so far 1, seems to be backfiring since South has already garnered several votes. And i doubt he had his posts written for him; they're not persuasive at all. Put yourself in the mafias shoes. If citizen is really the hatter, how would you disrupt the plan? The strategies i detailed in my longish post on page 96 (i think its 96) involving false DT claims would be much more powerful and harder to combat than sending out SouthRawrea to meekly claim that he's the real Mad Hatter. Like I said before, never assume the mafia are idiots. The other possibility no one has mentioned is that BC and Tricode are both red and we have 2 Hatters (possible yes... realistic probably not) Oh wow.. never even considered 2 hatters... uh... There is only 2kp roles. So it's unlikely that there are 2 mad hatters when I'm the vig. Also instead of defending yourself, you seem to like to show your hard work that is irrelevant to this game and does not prove anything other then your busy. I just defended myself against zeks didn't I D  You just asked Zek "why don't you suspect citizen", that isn't really a reason why not to look at you still. You were just trying to bounce off your FoS to citizen instead of defending yourself and giving valid reasons in why we should trust you over citizen. Says he agrees with BC, but doesn't change his vote from south to citi, and posts after a little bit. Thats really suspicious in my book when you add everything up. If a mad hatter gets lynched tonight, I think we need to go after this guy. Hopefully one of them put a bomb on BC, because that would help tremendously in figuring some stuff out. Also hope the DT situation gets resolved very soon... Tricode has an ndying hatred of BC and always wants to kill him. That is a fact of nature. Mafia constants: Chezinu cannot be trusted to say anything useful Ace and BM share a deep hatred of each other Flamewheel is adorable Abenson sucks at mafia Brownbear will fuck up if you ever give him the medic role (and Korynne will be sad) Tricode will try to kill BC every chance he gets 
You forgot
Qatol is always blue, even if hes green
Ver, magically appears to break games in two with his mighty ability
Incognito, hes always incognito
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On July 25 2010 10:19 Divinek wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2010 10:18 youngminii wrote:
Actually fuck that, move BC to the top because he's the most influential.
SouthRawrea
Chaoser
BC
Infundibuxdlgxcubum
Pandain (Claimed DT)
Amber[Light] (Pandain claimed to have checkd him)
Tree.hugger (moved tree.hugger to the bottom 'cause it's likely he's just bad town)
Quote this every page. Thanks. wait did he publically doing this or are you just handing the mob a free dt?
no that wasn't claimed in thread, so he is handing off a potential dt.
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On July 25 2010 10:39 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2010 10:37 youngminii wrote:
This is exactly how the mafia would react in this given situation: Kill of citi.zen then have everyone back out into a corner and defend themselves like chaoser is doing right now.
No, you will not be spared. Also, I like my hit list and I will keep it that way. Also, if citi.zen is telling the truth and SouthRawr is not, then Tricode is almost definitely also telling the truth, hence Tricode should not be on the list.
BC
SouthRawrea
Chaoser
Infundibuxdlgxcubum
Pandain (Claimed DT)
Amber[Light] (Pandain claimed to have checkd him)
Tree.hugger (moved tree.hugger to the bottom 'cause it's likely he's just bad town) You will not be reasoned with. I request other people to try and see the light.
He just attempted to out a potential DT at night. IE during the period mafia could hit him. Asking him to see reason is I think far out of the picture now.
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On July 25 2010 10:42 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2010 10:38 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On July 25 2010 10:31 youngminii wrote:On July 25 2010 10:30 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On July 25 2010 10:27 youngminii wrote:On July 25 2010 10:25 chaoser wrote:You can hit me if you want, I'mma flip green. Either way, I'mma go get my popcorn cause youngminii is hellbent on killing me  This is exactly what I am hellbent on doing. I'm just going to be spamming the list until this game ends. BC
SouthRawrea
Chaoser
Infundibuxdlgxcubum
Pandain (Claimed DT)
Amber[Light] (Pandain claimed to have checkd him)
Tree.hugger (moved tree.hugger to the bottom 'cause it's likely he's just bad town) Young, you know that if South is blue, the mafia spread their votes across both lists and let the town fight over the lynch. Sure, yeah okay. I'm serious; stop being a dick. If South is blue then Day 3 was perfect for mafia. They have 1-2 people come out and argue for lynching citizen (someone like BC, tree hugger, or me) and a couple others to start the wagon on South (e.g. you, zeks, or lakrismamma). The town just eats up the bullshit since a mafia was never in danger of getting lynched due to citizen fronting for the mad hatter rather than actually being the mad hatter. Basically the entire duality of Citi/South was thrown because citizen was not the role he said he was, so instead of being at Citi/South/Tricode we're at South/Tricode/Mystery Player. We can still trust citi.zen that the Mystery Player exists, BECAUSE citi.zen flipped green. It's pretty much the same as citi.zen flipping MH except that now it's even better because MH is hidden. We KNOW that it's either South or Tricode that's lying. It's almost definite that South is lying and you're backing him up with a whole host of other scum. If South ends up flipping blue, oh damn well we've got Tricode. Also, I apologise for being a dick, I guess I'm just happy that mafia are cornered and I don't want anything to jeopardise the win.
You don't want the mafia to win but then proceeded to toss potential dt under the bus (said player has claimed dt mouth). If said mouth is lynched and flips town, it auto means your gf. Good job on the spamming though, I especially love the colours.
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On July 25 2010 10:44 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2010 10:42 Pandain wrote:On July 25 2010 10:39 youngminii wrote:On July 25 2010 10:35 Pandain wrote:On July 25 2010 10:30 youngminii wrote:
'logical play', okay. This is the most far fetched story I've ever seen come out of a mafia game and I don't care if you're green/blue/red at this point. The majority of the people on the list make up mafia and if you need to be sacrificed to get rid of that entire list, then so be it. On July 25 2010 10:29 youngminii wrote:Oh crap I didn't even think of being modkilled for spamming Okay I guess I could ease up a bit . In any case, I'd like the Mad Hatter to place their bombs on people on this list (not the top because we're hopefully lynching them the next day) so maybe put bombs on people at the bottom of the list? On July 25 2010 10:24 youngminii wrote:
Don't worry at this rate we'll win. Don't play as if you're trying to cover up for the current list of scum (which is what this post appears to be doing). You'll be my next scum suspect if the current list doesn't catch all scum. Seriouslly, wtf man. It's been 5 minutes and look at everything you're saying "MUST BE DONE!" Read, think,evaluate. Dont rush to conclusions and rash plans. No, we've already come to a conclusion and a well defined plan that was formed even before citi.zen died. The only thing that could possibly come out of 'reading thinking evaluating' and wasting anymore time is that scum could post up alternate theories and back each other up which will pollute the mind of the newbie/inactive townies leading to a change in momentum from pressure on mafia to another wasted lynch. The list I am spamming is the only plan we should follow and that is that. No. Shut up. I'm sorry, you're going to ruin the game if you keep acting like this. Your theories are not fact. Stop thinking that you can already know what the answer is 5 minutes in. And the only thing that can come out of reading thinking and evaluating is a reasonable, logical thing. Listen to yourself. "MUST NOT THINK, MUST GO ALONG WITH PLAN NO MATTER WHAT". I know you think you've won and "saved the day" but you haven't man. If anything your going to ruin it. Really, I've yet to come across anyone giving a reasonable counter explanation. No, I do not count your "we were working with citi.zen, but for some reason citi.zen didn't say anything about it to anyone" theory as a reasonable explanation. I know I'm being loud because people DO need it drilled through their heads that this list will win the game. Lots of people are too easily swayed by mafia and they will do anything to shine a bad light on me etc.
If pandains claim is legit, he would have a copy of pm's no? I am guessing as would citizen's people.
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On July 25 2010 10:47 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2010 10:43 tree.hugger wrote:
You have these abilities in varying qualities, but you don't have the most important trait in mafia, which is patience, and cool headedness.
I'm going to go ahead and agree with you here. In any case, @BC I had already warned Pandain that I would reveal him and he seemed to accept that just fine. He claims he was 'working' with citi.zen yet he goes ahead and convinces everyone to vote for him. His play (we've been PMing since day 1) has been sloppy and even if he was DT, it isn't necessary anymore to win.
The issue being, hes claiming you were checked by DT and claiming dt mouth, your claiming hes mafia who fake claimed. IF hes town that would in turn almost guarentee your guilt.
He is new however and his play may have been sloppy, but your not doing much better.
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On July 25 2010 10:51 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2010 10:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On July 25 2010 10:44 youngminii wrote:On July 25 2010 10:42 Pandain wrote:On July 25 2010 10:39 youngminii wrote:On July 25 2010 10:35 Pandain wrote:On July 25 2010 10:30 youngminii wrote:
'logical play', okay. This is the most far fetched story I've ever seen come out of a mafia game and I don't care if you're green/blue/red at this point. The majority of the people on the list make up mafia and if you need to be sacrificed to get rid of that entire list, then so be it. On July 25 2010 10:29 youngminii wrote:Oh crap I didn't even think of being modkilled for spamming Okay I guess I could ease up a bit . In any case, I'd like the Mad Hatter to place their bombs on people on this list (not the top because we're hopefully lynching them the next day) so maybe put bombs on people at the bottom of the list? On July 25 2010 10:24 youngminii wrote:
Don't worry at this rate we'll win. Don't play as if you're trying to cover up for the current list of scum (which is what this post appears to be doing). You'll be my next scum suspect if the current list doesn't catch all scum. Seriouslly, wtf man. It's been 5 minutes and look at everything you're saying "MUST BE DONE!" Read, think,evaluate. Dont rush to conclusions and rash plans. No, we've already come to a conclusion and a well defined plan that was formed even before citi.zen died. The only thing that could possibly come out of 'reading thinking evaluating' and wasting anymore time is that scum could post up alternate theories and back each other up which will pollute the mind of the newbie/inactive townies leading to a change in momentum from pressure on mafia to another wasted lynch. The list I am spamming is the only plan we should follow and that is that. No. Shut up. I'm sorry, you're going to ruin the game if you keep acting like this. Your theories are not fact. Stop thinking that you can already know what the answer is 5 minutes in. And the only thing that can come out of reading thinking and evaluating is a reasonable, logical thing. Listen to yourself. "MUST NOT THINK, MUST GO ALONG WITH PLAN NO MATTER WHAT". I know you think you've won and "saved the day" but you haven't man. If anything your going to ruin it. Really, I've yet to come across anyone giving a reasonable counter explanation. No, I do not count your "we were working with citi.zen, but for some reason citi.zen didn't say anything about it to anyone" theory as a reasonable explanation. I know I'm being loud because people DO need it drilled through their heads that this list will win the game. Lots of people are too easily swayed by mafia and they will do anything to shine a bad light on me etc. If pandains claim is legit, he would have a copy of pm's no? I am guessing as would citizen's people. Citizen knows I was. I kept it vague so he wouldn't find out who the DT was though. Also: Which PM's do you want. also I repeat: If we are going to get ANYTHING done, we are going to have to be calm, and patient. We have 24 hours people. Let's analyze the information.
The ones you sent back and forth with citizen about YM would most likely be the ideal ones, as he would have sent those most likely into his own circle.
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On July 26 2010 05:39 BrownBear wrote:
Ughhhhh.
I like the starting point of BC, and SR as people who DIDN'T vote for doublelynch, as well as people who are very suspicious to me -
SouthRawrea fakeclaimed MH (and we know this for certain now, zeks was real MH, and mafia probably won't kill him for 2 reasons: If he dies and flips MH, SR is dead, also bombs on BC and SR. No way to know for sure until the morning though.)
BC put waaaaay too much energy into defending SouthRawrea, focusing on lynching citi.zen (for shitty reasons I might add), and basically scumslipped - there's no way he would care as much as he did about us not lynching SR unless they were teammates. The amount he cared also leads me to suspect SouthRawrea might be a mafia power role, either GF (maybe posing as a mad hatter?) or SB (if we could take SB out by lynch I would be so happy).
So what I'm thinking is: zeks maybe moves a bomb tonight off of one of the two (zeks chooses so mafia doesn't know for sure), we lynch that guy for sure, and then figure out a secondary target, while keeping the bomb on the other as a precaution?
Welcoming thoughts/criticism/suggestions.
My only amusement to this idea is that your assuming that zeks is legit. Citizen's plan actually only confirmed his circle had he flipped hatter and he didn't. That actually makes both zeks/southrawr/tricode as a set of people where any two could be legit. As tricode is the only one who claimed vig, he is most likely legit.
Also, if you honestly think me arguing against citizen's plan/behaviour was a scumtell, go back and look over games I have been town. I argue against plans with holes, even moreso from someone who knows better. Having him move around his bombs around (provided hes the hatter) is a good idea however.
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On July 26 2010 06:12 chaoser wrote:
He flipped green though so why would he lie about his circle? I'll take zek's word
It means his circle isnt confirmed.
Mafia or DT could have been like "sup i checked you your green"
Then citizen personally chooses someone to pick, turns out so and so is also red and boom a plan is born to snag both dts.
Or he could be a hatter. His plan went from confirm the dt, to take the word of a guy who lied about his role.
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On July 26 2010 06:14 zeks wrote:Would love to hear BC's master plan  scum you can also try again to throw another one of your goons to counter claim my counter claim to south's counter claim to citi.zens claim
I'd love to know why you think the death of a dead liar gives you any credibility. Your just lucky people miss the simple fact that citizens plan was pretty well null and void upon his death.
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On July 26 2010 06:16 zeks wrote:
here's how my circle of 3 got formed
dt checks citi.zen day 1 green
decides to claim to citi.zen knowing he could be gf
citi.zen + dt decide to check me
i flip mad hatter
citi.zen is mouthpiece
that is all
Except you can pm anyone saying "sup your green" A mafia can guess those odds rather easily, and if citizen calls em out its a simple matter of two people arguing over whos word is more legit.
In your case you can say he was checked, or the like, but he lied about his role in a situation where him flipping makes your/dt role questionable rather than confirmed. Sorry dude.
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On July 26 2010 06:21 zeks wrote:
lol except i'm hatter would you pm anyone saying "hey you're hatter" when tricode already claimed vig - can mafia really guess the odds of an MH?
Everyone you have said is very well applicable to the other DT circle however
and you already have the retarded issues with youngmini / pandain. The difference is they arent asking for roleclaims. Besides, you've claimed hatter (yet wanted med prot) and Dt all in the same night period, i'm impressed.
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On July 26 2010 04:33 zeks wrote:
great then i guess i wont check you now
Hi im a dt, hit me i say hiiiit me.
Youve also asked for med prot and claimed hatter, nice try though duder.
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On July 26 2010 06:21 zeks wrote:
lol except i'm hatter would you pm anyone saying "hey you're hatter" when tricode already claimed vig - can mafia really guess the odds of an MH?
Everyone you have said is very well applicable to the other DT circle however
actually yes yo ucould guess the odds of hatter. 2 kp roles, 1 vig 1 hatter makes sense as otherwise you have more Night total kp than mafia unless suicide bomber hits a person being checked by multiple blues.
Nice try though.
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On July 26 2010 06:24 zeks wrote:
i am inviting the scum to hit me
if BC and SR are both clear they'll definitely hit me today
really? what faulty logic is that.
Mafia would avoid you if you were legit hatter as bombs could be on innocents and your using the "mafia would auto hit me to kill them" when instead they could force town to waste a double lynch on you or your bomb targets. Your lack of thinking is beyond me.
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and as fun as the little talk has been with you zeks, I'm heading to work for the next 7-8ish hours. So have fun while im gone with your scheming and plotting. Ill be interested to see what you've managed when I come back.
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On July 26 2010 06:33 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2010 06:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On July 26 2010 06:21 zeks wrote:
lol except i'm hatter would you pm anyone saying "hey you're hatter" when tricode already claimed vig - can mafia really guess the odds of an MH?
Everyone you have said is very well applicable to the other DT circle however
actually yes yo ucould guess the odds of hatter. 2 kp roles, 1 vig 1 hatter makes sense as otherwise you have more Night total kp than mafia unless suicide bomber hits a person being checked by multiple blues. Nice try though. Yeah, but how do they pick the MH out of a lineup of 19 town players? It drops to a 1/19 chance that they PM the right guy saying "sup you're MH". Your logic, again, is fundamentally flawed. Nice try, though
Your also assuming the "check on a hatter" was a real check on a hatter. Seriously citizen could have chosen a red to be checked and gotten screwed. If they pointed at a green he coulda shot citizen and called it a day.
and now im gone.
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ROOOOOFL. Come back from work only to find apparently I have claimed twice to people two different roles while everyone misses the most fucking odd thing in the world.
THE DT DIED. The day after someone requests dts claim, the same day some retard outs his dt (who was a mouth?) the same day that same "dt" claims some epic strategy to bag a GF. And no one is suspicious of them?
For fucks sake, no wonder the town is losing. In this game day alone, the # of liars I have seen astound me. Combine with zeks claiming two roles (hi liar), combine south's obvious attempt to bus me as well as rastabans, I am amused. The level of fright I have managed to put on the mafia this game is absolutely astounding.
I have no idea how to even begin today disecting the idiocy i've seen the last page, let alone the level of naiveness from a town.
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