EPT7] citi.zen (SouthRawrea, tree.hugger, amber[light], BC, Pandain, Chaoser, Pyrr)
1] ~OpZ~ (d3_crescentia)
1] Pyrrhuloxia (Misder)
1] Protactinium (LaXerCannon)
1] youngminii (tricode)
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
7] citi.zen (SouthRawrea, tree.hugger, amber[light], BC, Pandain, Chaoser, Pyrr) 1] ~OpZ~ (d3_crescentia) 1] Pyrrhuloxia (Misder) 1] Protactinium (LaXerCannon) 1] youngminii (tricode) | ||
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citi.zen
2509 Posts
I am out with the family for the evening. If you find that scummy on a Saturday I am speechless. Make the right call and this is over. The reds risked everything today: try to go after my credibility, try to question a solid plan on unfounded grounds, fake-claim right when a majority of players had correctly concluded I was telling the tuyth, try to get me lynched "to reveal information" (really to stop me from linking the two circles tonight). Just read the thread to see who did this - it's transparent as hell. | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
On July 25 2010 08:12 rastaban wrote: Guys I have been staying quiet but I can’t anymore. I was hoping citi.zen would prove his claim but he hasn’t and I am worried about what his plan is. He has already gotten the DT claims. Before the real and asked for us to reveal the DTs. I haven’t heard from him since the counter claim. From Citi.zen: + Show Spoiler + A third DT claim did show up. Which is good - more people are giving themselves up. I will need the name of your Dt when you are satisfied there is no counter claim against me. My DT can then check one of the two and find the real one as well as the red. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Wow, I did't expect that much to go down last night. I think you might have just given us the break town needed to turn this around. I believe at this point if someone was going to claim they would have. The DT felt the same way so I was asked to go ahead and move forward with contacting you. Let me know what we should do next. Thanks, He hasn't mentioned this in the thread, I hate putting myself out there, but if he is playing us I am sure another mouth can confirm. Wait what? You know the identity of a DT, is that what you're saying? | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
On July 25 2010 08:12 rastaban wrote: Guys I have been staying quiet but I can’t anymore. I was hoping citi.zen would prove his claim but he hasn’t and I am worried about what his plan is. He has already gotten the DT claims. Before the real and asked for us to reveal the DTs. I haven’t heard from him since the counter claim. From Citi.zen: + Show Spoiler + A third DT claim did show up. Which is good - more people are giving themselves up. I will need the name of your Dt when you are satisfied there is no counter claim against me. My DT can then check one of the two and find the real one as well as the red. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Wow, I did't expect that much to go down last night. I think you might have just given us the break town needed to turn this around. I believe at this point if someone was going to claim they would have. The DT felt the same way so I was asked to go ahead and move forward with contacting you. Let me know what we should do next. Thanks, He hasn't mentioned this in the thread, I hate putting myself out there, but if he is playing us I am sure another mouth can confirm. did you ask multiple people to claim to me? ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Anyway I guess at this point we should wait 12~ hours to see if someone else claims DT rep. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Same here, I view the DTs as key, not myself. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Scum wouldn't counter claim, it's suicide. Scum also wouldn't claim what you claimed, it's suicide. Besides it's not like my being alive is very important in the game right now, lost all credibility as a player. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Waw, you didn't wait very long to see if there is a counter claim! ----------------------------------------- Original Message: DT circle rep. I'm slightly suspicious of my DT. Only slightly. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On July 25 2010 08:12 rastaban wrote: Guys I have been staying quiet but I can’t anymore. I was hoping citi.zen would prove his claim but he hasn’t and I am worried about what his plan is. He has already gotten the DT claims. Before the real and asked for us to reveal the DTs. I haven’t heard from him since the counter claim. From Citi.zen: + Show Spoiler + A third DT claim did show up. Which is good - more people are giving themselves up. I will need the name of your Dt when you are satisfied there is no counter claim against me. My DT can then check one of the two and find the real one as well as the red. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Wow, I did't expect that much to go down last night. I think you might have just given us the break town needed to turn this around. I believe at this point if someone was going to claim they would have. The DT felt the same way so I was asked to go ahead and move forward with contacting you. Let me know what we should do next. Thanks, He hasn't mentioned this in the thread, I hate putting myself out there, but if he is playing us I am sure another mouth can confirm. quoting to get this to top of page | ||
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
Unvote Abstain Vote Citi.zen Explain yourself. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
On July 25 2010 08:14 citi.zen wrote: Town, if you really think I am red and out of the blue decided to fake claim in a game where nobody had put any pressure on me, you deserve to lose. I am out with the family for the evening. If you find that scummy on a Saturday I am speechless. Make the right call and this is over. The reds risked everything today: try to go after my credibility, try to question a solid plan on unfounded grounds, fake-claim right when a majority of players had correctly concluded I was telling the tuyth, try to get me lynched "to reveal information" (really to stop me from linking the two circles tonight). Just read the thread to see who did this - it's transparent as hell. when it was confirmed? You claimed just before SPL, on a friday night where you knew the activity level would drop. After those people crash and go to bed. Don't feign anything like that as we both know its hell. Address the issues you have obviously ignored and stop being so WIFOM. Your uncaring attitude is just indicator of why I think your scum | ||
tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On July 25 2010 08:07 youngminii wrote: I call upon every player in this game to vote for either citi.zen or South. One of them is confirmed mafia. There is no hiding under this "I think they're all innocent" nonsense. Pick one. But more importantly, pick SouthRawrea. There are four possible outcomes: If we lynch citi.zen the Mafia: Then we've taken out one red. We have a town member to form a circle around (SouthRawrea), and this player is 100% new to forum mafia. If we lynch citi.zen the Mad Hatter: Then ASSUMING citi.zen's already given the second DT party (his inactivity cough) AND if we rule out the possibility of TWO DT groups claiming to him, then we have a town circle with a DT. Two people needlessly die and if you all really think that citi.zen's scumhunting abilities are so good, then why don't you trust him on his SouthRawrea hunt? If we lynch Southrawrea the Mafia: Then we gain a whole load of information with many implications (unfortunately no one listens to me anymore). We've got BC backed into a corner, we've got chaoser (imo) and a few more, AND we have a huge townie group with TWO DTs working together. If we lynch Southrawrea the Mad Hatter: Then chaoser dies. Only one death compared to two if citi.zen's Mad Hatter. I do think he's mafia and maybe you would too (directed at tree.hugger) if you got off your high horse and read my analysis posts once in a while. *** God I can't believe how fast you all just follow tree.hugger's bias 'situation report'. You're cherry-picking and plagiarizing. We gain the same amount of info from vote lists no matter whom is lynched, since this is a polarized vote. The question is of who's bombs you want to go off, or who you'd rather take out if they were both mafia, as they have equal chances to be both. For both answers, the clear answer is citi.zen. And that's full of nonsense. How come we don't go along with citi.zen's analysis on South? Well, dur dur, because if he's mafia he's not likely to help the town out with some accurate analysis is he? If citi.zen truly is town aligned, and he knows he's on the block, do you think he'd honestly leave the second day DT check out of the loop? That's absurd. And you've accused me repeatedly of not reading your analysis. That's not accurate, I have and I think it's junk. Again, there are two variables here that make citi.zen the better lynch, and they're the only two that matter. Bombs, and Skill. And it's citi.zen both times. | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
rastaban has a DT citi.zen has a DT youngminii has a DT Could 2 of these be the same DT? Or have we caught a falseclaimer/the GF? | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
I represented my DT and claimed to citi.zen. Rastaban did the same. Citi.zen got two DT claims and so he knows something is wrong. If he was scum, he would have kept going as if everything was normal. Instead, he made both rastaban and myself aware that there were more than one DT group claiming. Citi.zen is in the best position possible as town and you should all see that. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On July 25 2010 08:17 BrownBear wrote: I am so fucking confused right now. What I see it as: rastaban has a DT citi.zen has a DT youngminii has a DT Could 2 of these be the same DT? Or have we caught a falseclaimer/the GF? It means mafia's fucking up | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
On July 25 2010 08:17 BrownBear wrote: I am so fucking confused right now. What I see it as: rastaban has a DT citi.zen has a DT youngminii has a DT Could 2 of these be the same DT? Or have we caught a falseclaimer/the GF? A more puzzling thing is this. Two mouths have claimed to citizen, and we have someone counter claiming? The pm rasta showed implies a third claimant (as i doubt citizen would count himself as one) Seems really odd to me. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
On July 25 2010 08:17 BrownBear wrote: I am so fucking confused right now. What I see it as: rastaban has a DT citi.zen has a DT youngminii has a DT Could 2 of these be the same DT? Or have we caught a falseclaimer/the GF? We've caught a falseclaimer. Rastaban isn't in my group. | ||
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
On July 25 2010 08:18 youngminii wrote: Here's some credibility for citi.zen. I don't care if you don't read this but know that if you're town and citi.zen dies tonight you have played against your win condition by a big deal. I represented my DT and claimed to citi.zen. Rastaban did the same. Citi.zen got two DT claims and so he knows something is wrong. If he was scum, he would have kept going as if everything was normal. Instead, he made both rastaban and myself aware that there were more than one DT group claiming. Citi.zen is in the best position possible as town and you should all see that. I would agree, except he asked for me to give my DTs name. That is why I am worried. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
On July 25 2010 08:18 youngminii wrote: Here's some credibility for citi.zen. I don't care if you don't read this but know that if you're town and citi.zen dies tonight you have played against your win condition by a big deal. I represented my DT and claimed to citi.zen. Rastaban did the same. Citi.zen got two DT claims and so he knows something is wrong. If he was scum, he would have kept going as if everything was normal. Instead, he made both rastaban and myself aware that there were more than one DT group claiming. Citi.zen is in the best position possible as town and you should all see that. Except there was a third claim? at this point he should have come out and simply said "think i found the gf/reds in pms, we are having a field day tonight" as hes already got them caught when they pm, instead he hid that fact. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On July 25 2010 08:07 youngminii wrote: If we lynch citi.zen the Mafia: Then we've taken out one red. We have a town member to form a circle around (SouthRawrea), and this player is 100% new to forum mafia. We've taken out probably the most important mafia member and the most experienced. We've stopped him from trying to figure out the two dts. We have a fadoodle load of information we can analyze based on who supported him and who didn't. And yes, we have a confirmed townie to boot. On July 25 2010 08:07 youngminii wrote: If we lynch citi.zen the Mad Hatter: Then ASSUMING citi.zen's already given the second DT party (his inactivity cough) AND if we rule out the possibility of TWO DT groups claiming to him, then we have a town circle with a DT. Two people needlessly die and if you all really think that citi.zen's scumhunting abilities are so good, then why don't you trust him on his SouthRawrea hunt? This post is a bit confusing (PM me to clarify?) But we get two bombs placed by citizen, who's far more likely to have placed a bomb on mafia than south, and in addition we get to analyze all posts relating to those people as well. I do think citizens scumhunting abilities are good.... IF HES TOWN. If he's not, than I can't trust him. On July 25 2010 08:07 youngminii wrote: If we lynch Southrawrea the Mafia: Then we gain a whole load of information with many implications (unfortunately no one listens to me anymore). We've got BC backed into a corner, we've got chaoser (imo) and a few more, AND we have a huge townie group with TWO DTs working together. I agree with this. If he is mafia, than we have got a huge advantage. Still, there are holes in citizens plans however, and while they could be amended, we just don't have the time. However, we are in NO position to make such huge leaps of faith. As mentioned by several people and in this post, it is far safer and more logical to lynch citizen. On July 25 2010 08:07 youngminii wrote: If we lynch Southrawrea the Mad Hatter: Then chaoser dies. Only one death compared to two if citi.zen's Mad Hatter. I do think he's mafia and maybe you would too (directed at tree.hugger) if you got off your high horse and read my analysis posts once in a while. We lynch an innocent mad hatter, citizen therefore is red. However as mentioned by others theres a decent chance of him being suicide. Killing a possible red is no reason to lynch a blue. I'm sorry youngmini, I won't change my will or anything, but the Secret Friendship Alliance only goes so far! | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
On July 25 2010 08:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote: A more puzzling thing is this. Two mouths have claimed to citizen, and we have someone counter claiming? The pm rasta showed implies a third claimant (as i doubt citizen would count himself as one) Seems really odd to me. He's counting his DT as one. Look at the next paragraph, he says "we'll check one of the two". You're slipping up more and more BC. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On July 25 2010 08:20 youngminii wrote: He's counting his DT as one. Look at the next paragraph, he says "we'll check one of the two". You're slipping up more and more BC. If when citi.zen found out there were multiple claims for DT, he would have told town if he was townie. But he didn't. That's weird | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
 Can someone clear this whole DT situation up before the lynch gets through? And BC callin out citizen on when he posts claiming he picks and chooses when is a dirty tactic, as if you claim you know his schedule and when hes not busy. Thats not the way to go about accusing someone. | ||
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