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Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 24 2010 23:38 GMT
#2121
On July 25 2010 08:33 chaoser wrote:
guys, please respond to the VERY scummy thing that he did which is keep the triple claim for DT from town. That's VERY WEIRD.

Yeah he says that he's leaving, knowing he could be dead by the time he gets back, and doesn't mention that?


Aside: Aren't you glad we killed DTA? If he was still alive, we had a vigi claim, we had two mad hatters claim, AND we had all of DTA's wink and nod posts about mad hattering this would be so much worse. That's why you don't dink around as town.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
July 24 2010 23:38 GMT
#2122
On July 25 2010 08:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
I think another thing I wonder and could be horrifically wrong here, but if he has two dt claims that he kept to himself, is it possible he was trying to fish for dt names elsewhere as well? Not sure if its likely but ugh, I am now even more paranoid.

He didn't keep it to himself, he basically informed me and rastaban. Also, that's a good point. Another reason why he didn't tell everyone is in case there were others who would try to claim to represent a DT group. Thanks for helping citi.zen's case.
lalala
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
July 24 2010 23:38 GMT
#2123
ebwop: 1 in 4 chance. Same deal.
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youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
July 24 2010 23:38 GMT
#2124
On July 25 2010 08:38 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 08:33 chaoser wrote:
guys, please respond to the VERY scummy thing that he did which is keep the triple claim for DT from town. That's VERY WEIRD.

Yeah he says that he's leaving, knowing he could be dead by the time he gets back, and doesn't mention that?


Aside: Aren't you glad we killed DTA? If he was still alive, we had a vigi claim, we had two mad hatters claim, AND we had all of DTA's wink and nod posts about mad hattering this would be so much worse. That's why you don't dink around as town.

Of course he's glad, he's scum.
lalala
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
July 24 2010 23:38 GMT
#2125
how much time is left for Day? hopefully citizen can come back and clear some things up himself.
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 24 2010 23:38 GMT
#2126
On July 25 2010 08:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 08:36 youngminii wrote:
On July 25 2010 08:33 chaoser wrote:
guys, please respond to the VERY scummy thing that he did which is keep the triple claim for DT from town. That's VERY WEIRD.

What's so weird? It's not like he told town "Okay guys, one DT group contacted me so now we have two DT groups working together". Can't he pull together a bit more information before telling everyone everything? It would also look extremely suspicious if he tells everyone that two DT groups contacted him if he doesn't tell everyone the identities of the DT group reps (me and rastaban).


Dude his head is on the chopping block. Information like that could have potentially saved him instantly. HE doesn't need to give up your names to town, just claim that he got multiple claims that can be investigated. Its less scummy to be honest with it when your in a position to die than holding it back.


Exactly this, he would have been open about it, there's no reason for him not to be. It would have moved the discussion off him and we would have to lynch South so we could get more information. Instead he kept it in.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
July 24 2010 23:39 GMT
#2127
On July 25 2010 08:37 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 08:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On July 25 2010 08:31 BrownBear wrote:
On July 25 2010 08:29 rastaban wrote:
Well last game he was caught when he tried to define his fake roleclaim.


True, but that doesn't change the fact that trying to get MH to say who they put their bombs on is a very scummy move. It's not worth possibly messing up a fakeclaimer when it's far more likely that they're legit, they say who their bombs are on, and mafia hits them to take out 2 or 3 people in one go.


Except if any of those bombs are on mafia, they lose up to two of their members as well. Tree hugger has already gone over this.


It's roughly a 1 in 5 chance that this is true. Your math sucks.

Except factor in his skill level and he will most likely have at least 1 red, if not two. Do you not weigh all the variables into your equations?
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 24 2010 23:40 GMT
#2128
We got about 4 hours and 20 till end of day
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
July 24 2010 23:40 GMT
#2129
If 2 DT's checked him why doesn't each DT tell another confirmed player to verify?

"We have unfinished business, I and he."
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
July 24 2010 23:40 GMT
#2130
On July 25 2010 08:38 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
how much time is left for Day? hopefully citizen can come back and clear some things up himself.


I think an hour and 20 minutes if BM keeps things to his regular schedule, much later if not.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 24 2010 23:40 GMT
#2131
oh oh right, i forgot he moved it to 9 EST, so hour 20
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
July 24 2010 23:40 GMT
#2132
On July 25 2010 08:39 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 08:37 BrownBear wrote:
On July 25 2010 08:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On July 25 2010 08:31 BrownBear wrote:
On July 25 2010 08:29 rastaban wrote:
Well last game he was caught when he tried to define his fake roleclaim.


True, but that doesn't change the fact that trying to get MH to say who they put their bombs on is a very scummy move. It's not worth possibly messing up a fakeclaimer when it's far more likely that they're legit, they say who their bombs are on, and mafia hits them to take out 2 or 3 people in one go.


Except if any of those bombs are on mafia, they lose up to two of their members as well. Tree hugger has already gone over this.


It's roughly a 1 in 5 chance that this is true. Your math sucks.

Except factor in his skill level and he will most likely have at least 1 red, if not two. Do you not weigh all the variables into your equations?

Ahh yes, of course we should weigh in skill level. Of course citi.zen's so good that out of 25 remaining players, he's so good that he PROBABLY bombed one of the 6 mafia. Yes, that's great logic to rely on.
lalala
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
July 24 2010 23:41 GMT
#2133
On July 25 2010 08:39 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 08:37 BrownBear wrote:
On July 25 2010 08:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On July 25 2010 08:31 BrownBear wrote:
On July 25 2010 08:29 rastaban wrote:
Well last game he was caught when he tried to define his fake roleclaim.


True, but that doesn't change the fact that trying to get MH to say who they put their bombs on is a very scummy move. It's not worth possibly messing up a fakeclaimer when it's far more likely that they're legit, they say who their bombs are on, and mafia hits them to take out 2 or 3 people in one go.


Except if any of those bombs are on mafia, they lose up to two of their members as well. Tree hugger has already gone over this.


It's roughly a 1 in 5 chance that this is true. Your math sucks.

Except factor in his skill level and he will most likely have at least 1 red, if not two. Do you not weigh all the variables into your equations?


You're getting too WIFOM for my tastes. I don't like to take chances like that. There's no way to be certain that citi.zen has a bomb on mafia, thus, it's very silly to assume that he does, and thus can safely claim.

Seriously, you were on my case a couple days back for shitty logic. Now it's just the pot calling the kettle black.
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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
July 24 2010 23:41 GMT
#2134
The confirmed dt knows of all the claims. I will not reveal their names publicly at this point - it would condemn the real one. It also has no bearing on what you guys need to do: lynch south so you get a 1pp% confirmed red. One way or another.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 24 2010 23:41 GMT
#2135
On July 23 2010 14:23 Bill Murray wrote:
The day will go back on normal schedule, and will end at 9pm in like 43 hours and 37 minutes

Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 24 2010 23:43 GMT
#2136
On July 25 2010 08:41 citi.zen wrote:
The confirmed dt knows of all the claims. I will not reveal their names publicly at this point - it would condemn the real one. It also has no bearing on what you guys need to do: lynch south so you get a 1pp% confirmed red. One way or another.


Yayyyyyyyyyyy win /win situation.
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
July 24 2010 23:44 GMT
#2137
So all dt claims were in before South counter-claimed mad hatter?

i wish there was another word for 'claim'
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
July 24 2010 23:44 GMT
#2138
On July 25 2010 08:43 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 08:41 citi.zen wrote:
The confirmed dt knows of all the claims. I will not reveal their names publicly at this point - it would condemn the real one. It also has no bearing on what you guys need to do: lynch south so you get a 1pp% confirmed red. One way or another.


Yayyyyyyyyyyy win /win situation.

Except he's saying to lynch South, something you're refusing to do.
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
July 24 2010 23:44 GMT
#2139
On July 25 2010 08:44 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
So all dt claims were in before South counter-claimed mad hatter?

i wish there was another word for 'claim'

Yes, according to my PM timestamps.
lalala
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
July 24 2010 23:44 GMT
#2140
On July 25 2010 08:38 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 08:33 chaoser wrote:
guys, please respond to the VERY scummy thing that he did which is keep the triple claim for DT from town. That's VERY WEIRD.

Yeah he says that he's leaving, knowing he could be dead by the time he gets back, and doesn't mention that?


Aside: Aren't you glad we killed DTA? If he was still alive, we had a vigi claim, we had two mad hatters claim, AND we had all of DTA's wink and nod posts about mad hattering this would be so much worse. That's why you don't dink around as town.

DTA is a good enough player to know that he would've had to claim or non-claim in that situation. Lynching DTA was a poor mistake.
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