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On July 25 2010 08:41 citi.zen wrote:
The confirmed dt knows of all the claims. I will not reveal their names publicly at this point - it would condemn the real one. It also has no bearing on what you guys need to do: lynch south so you get a 1pp% confirmed red. One way or another.
If your here long enough to post a comment like that, please go back and talk about issues pointed at you, stop random picking.
You got called out on a scum move, defend yourself, stop avoiding it. Saying "i passed all info onto my dt" isn't a defense when your suspected scum, as all it implies is you handed the info to your team.
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10] citi.zen (SouthRawrea, tree.hugger, amber[light], BC, Pandain, Chaoser, Pyrr, Protactinium, rastaban,iNfuNdiBuLuM)
9] SouthRawrea (BrownBear, Tricode, Divinek, Lakrismamma, citi.zen, bumatlarge, youngminii, zeks,Siniquity)
1] ~OpZ~ (d3_crescentia)
1] Pyrrhuloxia (Misder)
1] Protactinium (LaXerCannon)
1] youngminii (tricode)
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On July 25 2010 08:41 citi.zen wrote:
The confirmed dt knows of all the claims. I will not reveal their names publicly at this point - it would condemn the real one. It also has no bearing on what you guys need to do: lynch south so you get a 1pp% confirmed red. One way or another.
And this DT is confirmed how? Because he checked you and got Hatter and claimed to you? Because that doesn't matter when you are a prime GF candidate. And lynching south doesn't get a confirmed red because if he's innocent we still have to sort out between you and tricode and if red it seems like a dead end.
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Sigh...
I am not entirely convinced this is a good idea. BC has been pissing me off over the last few pages. I still am not sure whether or not SouthRawrea is claiming truthfully.
If this ends poorly, then town as a whole is screwed. In these times, I usually tend to vote based on my own analysis and reading of the thread, not the will of the town or the bandwagon du jour. Because I've seen, too many times, the town be wrong. The analysis be flawed or scummy. Town lose a critical vote because rather than see the plain-as-day evidence in front of them, they followed their gut instinct or one person and all voted the wrong way. This is why I was reluctant to change my vote earlier: I didn't think you guys were voting with analysis, I just thought you were following tree.hugger and BC blindly.
But there's been mounting pressure, both in the thread and by PM, for me to change my vote.
And you know what? I want some fucking answers from citi.zen. I want to know where he's been during this crucial day. I want to know why he wanted the names of the DTs. I want to know why he didn't tell us fucking immediately when he got 3 DT claims. I want to know why rastaban had to blow the lid on that little gem there, via PM reveal no less. I want answers to all of these.
And to the people who said lynching citi gives us more information that SR? You're right. If citi flips anything but red, it gives me a whole laundry list to work through 
So ##Unvote
##Vote citi.zen
God, I hope all of you are right.
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Notice that it's most likely that 5/6 scum are voting for citi.zen as of right now. BC/tree.hugger's arguments (as much as you'd like to believe they're not) are completely flawed. I'm not saying tree.hugger's scum but the mafia use these arguments and say 'oh that sounds good' and jumps on voting for citi.zen. Obviously along the way a few town are going to join in because monkey see monkey do. Now as for the SouthRawr case, it's a lot less 'rallied' and 'cooperative' than the votes against citi.zen, which can only serve to show how dedicated the scum are to saving SouthRawr and getting citi.zen out (and his solid plan). I ask of all townies to vote for SouthRawr RIGHT now and stop ignorantly following BC/tree.hugger/scum.
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On July 25 2010 08:38 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2010 08:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
I think another thing I wonder and could be horrifically wrong here, but if he has two dt claims that he kept to himself, is it possible he was trying to fish for dt names elsewhere as well? Not sure if its likely but ugh, I am now even more paranoid. He didn't keep it to himself, he basically informed me and rastaban. Also, that's a good point. Another reason why he didn't tell everyone is in case there were others who would try to claim to represent a DT group. Thanks for helping citi.zen's case.
Except your missing the point. You and rasta did nothing on said info till citizen looked suspicious. HIM not telling the town doesn't help his case. If he was red he would keep it up longer to get info out of the two of you, if he was town saying "have two claims, have a red' is all he would have needed. IT doesnt out anyone and if hes legit his dt can confirm.
It doesn't help his case in the least.
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On July 25 2010 08:46 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2010 08:41 citi.zen wrote:
The confirmed dt knows of all the claims. I will not reveal their names publicly at this point - it would condemn the real one. It also has no bearing on what you guys need to do: lynch south so you get a 1pp% confirmed red. One way or another. And this DT is confirmed how? Because he checked you and got Hatter and claimed to you? Because that doesn't matter when you are a prime GF candidate. And lynching south doesn't get a confirmed red because if he's innocent we still have to sort out between you and tricode and if red it seems like a dead end.
Awww fadoodle. Rofl, what if citizen got played.
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I honestly didnt think of him being the IT up til south came forward, that would give him a good reason to fakeclaim like this I guess, and he could just blow up later. Still he could be telling the truth, id like a clear explanation with the DT claims from him.
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Look at it this way, young: If citi flips blue, we know instantly BC/tree.hugger/all of them are scum.
This makes it all the more important that we vote double lynch NOW.
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On July 25 2010 08:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2010 08:41 citi.zen wrote:
The confirmed dt knows of all the claims. I will not reveal their names publicly at this point - it would condemn the real one. It also has no bearing on what you guys need to do: lynch south so you get a 1pp% confirmed red. One way or another. If your here long enough to post a comment like that, please go back and talk about issues pointed at you, stop random picking. You got called out on a scum move, defend yourself, stop avoiding it. Saying "i passed all info onto my dt" isn't a defense when your suspected scum, as all it implies is you handed the info to your team.
well the dt could either be totally fake or real if he is red. if you are gonna try to get info as a red you have to come up with 3 people claiming to the 2 spots so that you can be in charge of figuring things out; if you don't say there are fake claims, then everyone is confirmed and you'd have to pass on the info you got to townies (you couldn't fake this info since it townies could cross check to see if it matches what they claimed and to see if citi.zen sent the same thing to everyone.
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this is probably the most intense Day of mafia i've played in a long time
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What exactly are the chances that a mafia member can guess someone is a mad hatter so easily anyway? That's pretty random imo
Were citi.zen's tells that simple to the mafia?
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On July 25 2010 08:51 BrownBear wrote:
Look at it this way, young: If citi flips blue, we know instantly BC/tree.hugger/all of them are scum.
This makes it all the more important that we vote double lynch NOW.
I already voted for double lynch.
Do you really think they're just going to stop and say "oh yeah shit I guess we were wrong, gg"? They're obviously going to bus SouthRawr tomorrow and look as innocent as they can. Look at this, their arguments are completely flawed yet they are able to get so many town on their side because of sheer numbers. When 6 people continually argue the same flawed argument and post a lot then obviously they're going to pull in some town to agree with them. Same thing will happen tomorrow, trust me.
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On July 25 2010 08:51 BrownBear wrote:
Look at it this way, young: If citi flips blue, we know instantly BC/tree.hugger/all of them are scum.
This makes it all the more important that we vote double lynch NOW.
Or they are innocent and south is the scum :/
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On July 25 2010 08:54 Amber[LighT] wrote:
What exactly are the chances that a mafia member can guess someone is a mad hatter so easily anyway? That's pretty random imo
Were citi.zen's tells that simple to the mafia?
? I don't think it is likely that citizen is blue and his dt is mafia, if that's what you are suggesting.
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On July 25 2010 08:55 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2010 08:51 BrownBear wrote:
Look at it this way, young: If citi flips blue, we know instantly BC/tree.hugger/all of them are scum.
This makes it all the more important that we vote double lynch NOW. Or they are innocent and south is the scum :/
if they are innocent it's extremely unlikely they'd invest themselves/their reputation in this game THAT MUCH into preventing him from being lynched today.
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Just in case I haven't(think I did though)
##Vote Double Lynch
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On July 25 2010 08:54 Amber[LighT] wrote:
What exactly are the chances that a mafia member can guess someone is a mad hatter so easily anyway? That's pretty random imo
Were citi.zen's tells that simple to the mafia?
Well I had citizen marked down as blue or maybe red since around Day 1; he was also one of Foolishness suspects.
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On July 25 2010 08:58 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2010 08:55 bumatlarge wrote:On July 25 2010 08:51 BrownBear wrote:
Look at it this way, young: If citi flips blue, we know instantly BC/tree.hugger/all of them are scum.
This makes it all the more important that we vote double lynch NOW. Or they are innocent and south is the scum :/ if they are innocent it's extremely unlikely they'd invest themselves/their reputation in this game THAT MUCH into preventing him from being lynched today.
Definitely agree with this quote. BC and his posse are over committing to this waaaaay too much. Thing is, I'm still undecided as to whether or not tree.hugger is bad town or scum. I guess we'll see but he's been staying clear-ish under my scumdar.
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On July 25 2010 09:00 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2010 08:54 Amber[LighT] wrote:
What exactly are the chances that a mafia member can guess someone is a mad hatter so easily anyway? That's pretty random imo
Were citi.zen's tells that simple to the mafia? Well I had citizen marked down as blue or maybe red since around Day 1; he was also one of Foolishness suspects.
Congratulations on having him marked down as blue or red, that's a great achievement 
Also, the suspect of a green townie means nothing.
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