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zeks
Canada1068 Posts
HOLY SHIT. I did not think of that. That is totally something BC would organize and for some reason I overlooked it. Tricode actually sticks out more to me but for some reason I haven't even been thinking about him since I figured 1 vigi 1 hatter made sense. Hmm... we're gonna have to think this through a lot more. this threads activity has skyrocketed | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
6] citi.zen (SouthRawrea, tree.hugger, Siniquity, amber[light], BC, Pandain) 1] ~OpZ~ (d3_crescentia) 1] Pyrrhuloxia (Misder) 1] Protactinium (LaXerCannon) 1] youngminii (tricode) | ||
tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On July 25 2010 07:29 youngminii wrote: This is ridiculous, I can't believe this many people are actually voting for citi.zen. Let me say it one more time. There is more information to be gained if SouthRawr is lynched than if citi.zen is lynched. Also, you are a mafia noob, not just a mafia, not just a noob. I think we gain plenty of information about this, seeing as how we have a 50% chance at catching mafia, and this is a split vote. Role list analyzing is going to be cake after today. I call upon every player in this game to vote for either citi.zen or South. One of them is confirmed mafia. There is no hiding under this "I think they're all innocent" nonsense. Pick one. But more importantly, pick citi.zen. There are four possible outcomes: If we lynch citi.zen the Mafia: Then it's the coup de grâce. We've taken out their best player, and we have two confirmed town members to form a circle around. If we lynch citi.zen the Mad Hatter: Then we still have an intact town circle with a DT and a person who was checked. Also, citi.zen's bombs go off, and two people die. It's not unreasonable to assume that citi.zen, being an experienced mafia player and scum-hunter will have caught at least one mafia in his net. I'd trust his bomb placement, providing he has them. If we lynch Southrawrea the Mafia: Then we've taken out the newest, or one of the newest members of the mafia team. That's about it. If we lynch Southrawrea the Mad Hatter: Then chaoser dies—another player who is newer, and not really driving any buses. I know youngminii thinks he's mafia, but I think that's just silly. Decide for yourself, but I'd trust citi.zen's judgment in bomb placing over Southrawrea. *** I think out of these four options, assuming for a moment that the probability of either being mafia is 50/50, then the obvious better outcomes will come from lynching citi.zen. I hardly think there's anything to recommend Southrawrea as a natural mafia, or even a natural mafia selection to go out and try to sabotage this plan. On the flip side, pretty much the only player on TL who I would expect to pull something as crazy as a MH/town circle claim as mafia is citi.zen. I think, if we're talking character types, citi.zen fits, and Southrawrea does not. | ||
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zeks
Canada1068 Posts
btw chaoser its not a double lynch today is it...so my vote from xelin should be erased? | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
##vote citi.zen | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On July 25 2010 07:54 tree.hugger wrote: I think we gain plenty of information about this, seeing as how we have a 50% chance at catching mafia, and this is a split vote. Role list analyzing is going to be cake after today. I call upon every player in this game to vote for either citi.zen or South. One of them is confirmed mafia. There is no hiding under this "I think they're all innocent" nonsense. Pick one. But more importantly, pick citi.zen. There are four possible outcomes: If we lynch citi.zen the Mafia: Then it's the coup de grâce. We've taken out their best player, and we have two confirmed town members to form a circle around. If we lynch citi.zen the Mad Hatter: Then we still have an intact town circle with a DT and a person who was checked. Also, citi.zen's bombs go off, and two people die. It's not unreasonable to assume that citi.zen, being an experienced mafia player and scum-hunter will have caught at least one mafia in his net. I'd trust his bomb placement, providing he has them. If we lynch Southrawrea the Mafia: Then we've taken out the newest, or one of the newest members of the mafia team. That's about it. If we lynch Southrawrea the Mad Hatter: Then chaoser dies—another player who is newer, and not really driving any buses. I know youngminii thinks he's mafia, but I think that's just silly. Decide for yourself, but I'd trust citi.zen's judgment in bomb placing over Southrawrea. *** I think out of these four options, assuming for a moment that the probability of either being mafia is 50/50, then the obvious better outcomes will come from lynching citi.zen. I hardly think there's anything to recommend Southrawrea as a natural mafia, or even a natural mafia selection to go out and try to sabotage this plan. On the flip side, pretty much the only player on TL who I would expect to pull something as crazy as a MH/town circle claim as mafia is citi.zen. I think, if we're talking character types, citi.zen fits, and Southrawrea does not. I'm going to ## vote citi.zen because it gives us the most info but let's not forget that tricode / bc could be in cahoots. That does seem... kinda outlandish but BC could be one to pull something like that off. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
On July 25 2010 07:48 BrownBear wrote: You bring up a very good point here, and I think everyone should read it. It is still possible that Tricode is the liar, and there are 2 Mad Hatters in the game. Very true. BC and Tricode taking advantage seems extremely likely, wish soutrawerea claimed sooner. Chaoser dying does seem silly if south was just a little late on the uptake and a really new player thrust into our world all of a sudden. Killing tricode seems less of a risk then killing a bomber if hes just a vig now, but if hes scum, we can point right at BC for the next red, as they would have had to work this out together to figure this out. I dont wanna force the medic out, but now that three KPs are on the table, it might help if he claimed to someone. I still find it extremely silly for citizen to be red as he wouldnt benefit much from just killing a KP role and he would die eventually. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
On July 25 2010 07:56 youngminii wrote: @tree.hugger Except for the fact that we can go back and analyse all these posts if Southrawr dies. I'm already drawing links (publicly) to Southrawr and you're just blanketing the case on Southrawr. I don't know why you're doing this but okay. Say I'm silly and argue your case, I honestly don't know what's goign through your mind. dude your defending a guy whos only post in hours was a FoS on me. HE has ignored how many posts? seriously whats going through your mind. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
8] citi.zen (SouthRawrea, tree.hugger, Siniquity, amber[light], BC, Pandain, Chaoser, Pyrr) 1] ~OpZ~ (d3_crescentia) 1] Pyrrhuloxia (Misder) 1] Protactinium (LaXerCannon) 1] youngminii (tricode) | ||
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On July 25 2010 07:50 citi.zen wrote: You know offering South hasn't saved you, don't you? You just dug the hole deeper. You realized you've essentially just claimed that out of the three Town KP roles that have been claimed, two of them are mafia? You know that right? Where's the fourth claim? We need it now. Find the fourth claim. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
On July 25 2010 07:57 BloodyC0bbler wrote: dude your defending a guy whos only post in hours was a FoS on me. HE has ignored how many posts? seriously whats going through your mind. Better than siding with a guy who's many posts in many hours are filled with logical inconsistencies. How do we even know if citi.zen told the second DT party who his DT is? | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
On July 25 2010 07:59 tree.hugger wrote: You realized you've essentially just claimed that out of the three Town KP roles that have been claimed, two of them are mafia? You know that right? Where's the fourth claim? We need it now. Find the fourth claim. How does this post correlate in any way to the post you just quoted? | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On July 25 2010 07:57 bumatlarge wrote: I still find it extremely silly for citizen to be red as he wouldnt benefit much from just killing a KP role and he would die eventually. It's not silly if he is Suicide Bomber and in the rush of his claim, blues claimed to him. Then when the real one comes forward, hopefully the real one gets lynched, bombs go off, lots of people die. Now he gets to laugh and blow himself up with a few blues. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
On July 25 2010 08:00 chaoser wrote: It's not silly if he is Suicide Bomber and in the rush of his claim, blues claimed to him. Then when the real one comes forward, hopefully the real one gets lynched, bombs go off, lots of people die. Now he gets to laugh and blow himself up with a few blues. Yeah let's all just go find the smallest, tiniest possibilities and argue from that point of view. | ||
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Protactinium
Canada550 Posts
##Vote citi.zen I never stopped to think about how BloodyC0bbler and Tricode could be orchestrating this though. Definitely need to watch for them tomorrow, since with two hours left it's hard to get anything solid. Time to go continue making dumplings; will hopefully be back around thirty minutes before deadline. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
On July 25 2010 07:59 youngminii wrote: Better than siding with a guy who's many posts in many hours are filled with logical inconsistencies. How do we even know if citi.zen told the second DT party who his DT is? ... citizen if in the dt circle he claimed, wher ehe claimed he told the dt who to check day 2, has a confirmed townie (or he would have offered a red in his original plan). That townie can be the link that citizen wanted to be if citizen flips hatter as his circle just got instantly proven legit. Then the real dt could claim to that link, voila. Mafia faking the claim would get checked and off'd. How are you missing the obvious here? You speak about logical inconsistencies but are ignoring citizens, as well as your own. | ||
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SiNiquity
United States734 Posts
On July 25 2010 07:50 zeks wrote: I would think Tricode's story is the most believable. Same, which is why I'm not voting for him. Had citi.zen said nothing, we would likely be lynching Tricode today to verify his claim (better safe than sorry, etc). If Tricode is innocent, then why should citi.zen say anything... to get in the circles before a counter-claim? But why? Why not just let us lynch Tricode, confirm his vigi-ness and do all this mess next day? Unless he's afraid DT circles would connect before then? This seems like a strong argument to me. Why would citi.zen come out now and not tomorrow, after we've lynched Tricode (and likely gained nothing)? What does Mafia have to gain from a ploy like this? ## Unvote citi.zen ## Vote Southrawrea Citi.zen if you're Mafia, props for fucking with my head. | ||
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SiNiquity
United States734 Posts
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SouthRawrea
Canada608 Posts
On July 25 2010 08:01 youngminii wrote: Yeah let's all just go find the smallest, tiniest possibilities and argue from that point of view. It's not small if you consider the fact that the mafia would most likely send their Suicide Bomber forward to claim other than some random because he can blow people up after he gets the votes to go his way which is simple with your mafia crew voting with you? | ||
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