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On July 25 2010 07:18 lakrismamma wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2010 04:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Thanks for appearing after I went to sleep, its nice to know I get to wake up to stuff like this.
Now, if you read the bolded text you can easily see a mistake in your reasoning. In the case of multiple DT mouths talking to citizen, rather than him clear his legimacy, your having him instant 100% cleared and his dt clears the others....If he is red, you just handed him the entire dt list, good job. Best plan so far. IF he is legit, we have no way of proving this. Regardless, your plan requires 100% trust pretty well in him.
As for why I haven't analyzed misder? So what? I opted to snag people I saw obviously coasting/acting scummy. You know, rather than fingering me for who I didn't analyze, maybe you should spend time analyzing said person. Hell if you think you believe they are scum, maybe you should give a reason why other than "I think"
Trying to put suspicion on me for who I didn't analyze is like saying "You contributed, but because your scum list and mine don't overlap 100% you must be red" instead of contributing yourself.
¨ Citi.zen was cleared if no other claimed mad hatter. If he is clear then his DT should be clear if it is as he says? Now the situation is different. Misder was more of an observation. Im not so sure you are mafia now. Since I get to choose between citi.zen and Southrawrea south is far more likely and that would prove you right, Will you believe in citi.zen if South turns out red? Show nested quote +On July 25 2010 05:24 SouthRawrea wrote:
Look..I've been busy for the past few days anyways. Do you want me to go take a picture of everything that I've been doing in the backyard in the pouring rain? Just one yes is all I need. This is my first time ever playing a forum mafia game and I'm not used to this way of posting extremely long posts and having every single word scrutinized. The few times I've played the game people would say their reports, and chat in a chatbox. Not to mention this is filled with much more text. I've never even encountered the Mad Hatter role. If you look at the game EpicMafia, although they have like 50 roles, they don't have a single one that I know of that resembles the one in this game. I figured that it was a town-favoured role that was only supposed to be used later in the game when you had a higher chance of hitting the mafia with your bombs. Hence why I only placed one on the person I was most suspicious of at the time. What we could be doing here is giving citi.zen all the info he needs if he is mafia to win the game for that side. DT claims especially. Sure play the newbie card. What you really is trying to do here is make citi tell where he has his bombs right? Show nested quote +On July 25 2010 05:48 SouthRawrea wrote:
Not sure how this is completely representative of all my posts. You're missing a few actually. The type of mafia I'm used to is more fast paced and over a short period of time. I'm not entirely good with the analytical thing where you link the posts of people from 50 pages back and stuff which is what the "better" players seem to be doing.
Also at citi.zen if you really are the Mad Hatter, why not announce who you placed your bombs on? If they're really innocent, no problemo and if they're mafia they'll think twice about shooting you and we have someone to lead. WTF!! This is so mafia why should he tell where he placed his bombs. Only mafia has the need to know if the bombs are placed on them or not. You practicly told us you are mafia. ##unvote
##vote southrawrea
Also.. fine go show me where I last played a forum mafia game.. right nowhere. Now this is where WIFOM comes into play. If I were mafia, and not a noob as you claim, wouldn't I know that it would be scummy to ask for where the bombs are placed if he really was the Hatter? More substance less jumping to conclusions please.
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On July 23 2010 16:17 Bill Murray wrote:Vote Count:
Abstain:Double Lynch:
Starting from here since people voted before he posted Night post, and I didn't know if he counted them or not.
+ Show Spoiler +Protactinium abstains at 16:38
~OpZ~ abstains at 20:00
zeks abstains at 20:13
rastaban abstains at 23:11
Amber abstains at 2:12
Abstains for earlier
bumatlarge votes southrawrea at 3:00
youngminii votes chaoser at 7:24
Tricode abstains at 11:04
d3_crescentia abstains at 12:27
bumatlarge unvotes southrawrea, votes tree.hugger at 12:29
tree.hugger votes Xelin at 12:33
d3_crescentia votes ~opz~ at 12:36
zeks votes Xelin at 12:40
LaXerCannon votes protractium at 12:54
BC votes Southrawrea at 13:37
citi.zen votes BC at 14:45
Tricode votes youngminii at 15:42
BB votes Southrawrea at 15:43
Tricode unvotes youngminii, votes Southrawrea at 15:55
Divinek votes Southrawrea at 15:59
lakrismamma votes abstain at 20:19
lakrismamma votes BC at 22:28
Xelin votes Southrawrea at 22:52
chaoser votes Southrawrea at 00:41
Subversion abstains at 2:12
bumatlarge unvotes tree.hugger, votes BC at 3:44
SouthRawrea votes Citizen at 3:52
at this point the votes look like this
6] SouthRawrea (BloodyC0bbler, BrownBear, Tricode, Divinek, Lakrismamma, Chaoser)
2] XeliN (tree.hugger, zeks)
1] ~OpZ~ (d3_crescentia)
1] Pyrrhuloxia (Misder)
1] zeks (pandain)
1] chaoser (youngminii)
1] Protactinium (LaXerCannon)
1] BloodyC0bbler (citi.zen, bumatlarge)
1] youngminii (tricode)
1] citi.zen (SouthRawrea)
citi.zen unvotes BC, votes SouthRawrea at 4:09
bumatlarge unvotes BC, votes Southrawrea at 4:16
youngminii unvote chaoser, votes Southrawrea at 5:31
tree.hugger unvotes Xelin, votes citizen at 5:34
zeks votes Southrawrea at 6:17
Siniquity votes citi.zen at 6:46
amber[light] for citi.zen at 6:50
BC, unvotes southrawrea, votes citi.zen at 6:56
Pandain unvotes zeks, votes Citi.zen at 7:02
LaKrismamma unvotes SouthRawrea, votes Southrawrea at 7:18 (sorry I bolded, this is just funny)
Final vote numbers:
8] SouthRawrea (BrownBear, Tricode, Divinek, Lakrismamma, citi.zen, bumatlarge, youngminii, zeks)
6] citi.zen (SouthRawrea, tree.hugger, Siniquity, amber[light], BC, Pandain)
1] XeliN (zeks)
1] ~OpZ~ (d3_crescentia)
1] Pyrrhuloxia (Misder)
1] Protactinium (LaXerCannon)
1] youngminii (tricode)
##unvote
##abstain for now
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On July 25 2010 03:52 SouthRawrea wrote:
So far I've been trying to slip under the radar so I don't get lynched early on or killed at night. I've actually only placed one bomb thus far as I was a little hesitant to kill place two people at risk even if I suspect them. My only one at the moment is on chaoser but that was placed yesterday after seeing that he didn't get lynched. I decided to abstain from placing a second bomb because of the first vote placed on me by Bumat... I felt threatened. :/
## Vote Citizen for now
Wow I didn't see this until now. Why would he vote for now when its either him or citi.zen that is mafia. Notice where all the signs are pointing people!
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This is ridiculous, I can't believe this many people are actually voting for citi.zen. Let me say it one more time.
There is more information to be gained if SouthRawr is lynched than if citi.zen is lynched. Also, you are a mafia noob, not just a mafia, not just a noob.
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And now all of you seem to have switched off of South to citi.zen. I think we are too crazy about little things. Plus, citi.zen's absence is much much less suspicious than some of the crap South has been posting. Mainly, his decision to a) say in the thread who he placed his bombs on (really really dumb because unless bombs are on mafia, mafia will just hit him and take 2-3 townies out in one go) and b) call on citi.zen to do the same (dumn for the same reasons).
Sorry South. I don't trust you.
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Have we passed double lynch yet? If not, please vote for it 
Passing double lynch does not end the day early ~ I was confused about that before but BM clarified.
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On July 25 2010 07:18 lakrismamma wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2010 04:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Thanks for appearing after I went to sleep, its nice to know I get to wake up to stuff like this.
Now, if you read the bolded text you can easily see a mistake in your reasoning. In the case of multiple DT mouths talking to citizen, rather than him clear his legimacy, your having him instant 100% cleared and his dt clears the others....If he is red, you just handed him the entire dt list, good job. Best plan so far. IF he is legit, we have no way of proving this. Regardless, your plan requires 100% trust pretty well in him.
As for why I haven't analyzed misder? So what? I opted to snag people I saw obviously coasting/acting scummy. You know, rather than fingering me for who I didn't analyze, maybe you should spend time analyzing said person. Hell if you think you believe they are scum, maybe you should give a reason why other than "I think"
Trying to put suspicion on me for who I didn't analyze is like saying "You contributed, but because your scum list and mine don't overlap 100% you must be red" instead of contributing yourself.
¨ Citi.zen was cleared if no other claimed mad hatter. If he is clear then his DT should be clear if it is as he says? Now the situation is different. Misder was more of an observation. Im not so sure you are mafia now. Since I get to choose between citi.zen and Southrawrea south is far more likely and that would prove you right, Will you believe in citi.zen if South turns out red? Show nested quote +On July 25 2010 05:24 SouthRawrea wrote:
Look..I've been busy for the past few days anyways. Do you want me to go take a picture of everything that I've been doing in the backyard in the pouring rain? Just one yes is all I need. This is my first time ever playing a forum mafia game and I'm not used to this way of posting extremely long posts and having every single word scrutinized. The few times I've played the game people would say their reports, and chat in a chatbox. Not to mention this is filled with much more text. I've never even encountered the Mad Hatter role. If you look at the game EpicMafia, although they have like 50 roles, they don't have a single one that I know of that resembles the one in this game. I figured that it was a town-favoured role that was only supposed to be used later in the game when you had a higher chance of hitting the mafia with your bombs. Hence why I only placed one on the person I was most suspicious of at the time. What we could be doing here is giving citi.zen all the info he needs if he is mafia to win the game for that side. DT claims especially. Sure play the newbie card. What you really is trying to do here is make citi tell where he has his bombs right? Show nested quote +On July 25 2010 05:48 SouthRawrea wrote:
Not sure how this is completely representative of all my posts. You're missing a few actually. The type of mafia I'm used to is more fast paced and over a short period of time. I'm not entirely good with the analytical thing where you link the posts of people from 50 pages back and stuff which is what the "better" players seem to be doing.
Also at citi.zen if you really are the Mad Hatter, why not announce who you placed your bombs on? If they're really innocent, no problemo and if they're mafia they'll think twice about shooting you and we have someone to lead. WTF!! This is so mafia why should he tell where he placed his bombs. Only mafia has the need to know if the bombs are placed on them or not. You practicly told us you are mafia. ##unvote
##vote southrawrea
Well if we are determining who to lynch it makes sense to talk about bombs. citizen has already claimed hatter so he's not gonna last too much longer red or blue. Whoever survives the lynch is gonna get killed and if a blue has a bomb on them they will need to get shit in order (DT finding a mouth to pass on their findings). Also, if we lynch a hatter and he turns red, we can discuss what to do with the bombs before they get killed (moving bomb off an innocent, moving one onto a red, etc.).
The real hatter is probably not gonna survive the night UNLESS they announce bomb placements AND those are on reds. Reds will just take the risk on killing the hatter if they don't know. Mafia can't really do anything with the information except get scared shitless and leave a soon-to-be-confirmed blue alive if the bombs are on their own. Town can try to make things better if we know where bombs are.
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On July 25 2010 07:29 lakrismamma wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2010 03:52 SouthRawrea wrote:
So far I've been trying to slip under the radar so I don't get lynched early on or killed at night. I've actually only placed one bomb thus far as I was a little hesitant to kill place two people at risk even if I suspect them. My only one at the moment is on chaoser but that was placed yesterday after seeing that he didn't get lynched. I decided to abstain from placing a second bomb because of the first vote placed on me by Bumat... I felt threatened. :/
## Vote Citizen for now Wow I didn't see this until now. Why would he vote for now when its either him or citi.zen that is mafia. Notice where all the signs are pointing people!
Why would I say "for now" if I were mafia? Neither makes sense. I just wanted to make it sound a bit dramatic. You know.. like... The supervillain is thwarted.. for now.
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On July 25 2010 06:20 chaoser wrote:
You know, I was thinking. The worst case scenario that could happen is SouthRawrea is Bomber, me and him die. Citi.zen is suicide bomber, has blues to hit, kills a bunch. I'm still ready to die with southrawrea, just saying...
I would just like to quote this again for people who are like, if south flips MH, we can just kill citi.zen the next day. If he's suicide bomber, it doesn't matter
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Similarly, if citi.zen flips MH, we can't just kill South next day as he's likely IT as well.
It's a 50/50 shot, and neither is going to be "conclusive."
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On July 25 2010 07:29 youngminii wrote:
This is ridiculous, I can't believe this many people are actually voting for citi.zen. Let me say it one more time.
There is more information to be gained if SouthRawr is lynched than if citi.zen is lynched. Also, you are a mafia noob, not just a mafia, not just a noob.
Thing is your wrong. Citizen being lynched reveals us
A) he is hatter
b) he is gf
c) he is suicide bomber
d)he is townie playing huge gambit
e) he is dt (would be bad and he would have to claim this to save himself, although by lying once he could be doing it twice)
Now, if he is hatter, he dies kills two people (we get info based on who died remember), we get info based on those heavily accusing him, we get a confirmed dt (the one that checked him has checked someone else remember) his dt can then check the other dt confirming him and the circle is formed regardless and we get a ton of info.
We lynch southrawr
A) is mafia trying to save himself
B) is hatter with one bomb on chaoser
C) he flips green and we all go wtf
If he dies, we find out hes either a red trying to save himself or that hes a hatter with a bomb on someone you have been pressuring to kill all game. Regardless of his death, all we know is he was inactive till being called out. we get no info on really anyone else in this game. You just want to get chaoser killed and are pushing this.
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I will personally vote for citi.zen first as soon as the next day starts if SR flips anything other than red.
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On July 25 2010 07:29 youngminii wrote:
This is ridiculous, I can't believe this many people are actually voting for citi.zen. Let me say it one more time.
There is more information to be gained if SouthRawr is lynched than if citi.zen is lynched. Also, you are a mafia noob, not just a mafia, not just a noob.
That's not the only factor involved though. There is also likelihood based on who we're associating with. Don't we gain info on three total deaths if citi.zen is the mad hatter? There is much more potential info there then the 2 people we know will show up if I die. Also, if I were the mafia how do you gain info on Chaoser? Your supposed evidence that you gain is all circumstantial because of the nature of WIFOM. You sir are and idiot .
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The above posts are absolutely ridiculous and should not be taken into consideration (dumb wifom exercise). Also, @ siniquity there are 3 KP roles that have more or less claimed so far, it is very likely that either one of citi.zen and south is lying. Your post leads me to somewhat believe that you're covering up for South (scum) in case citi.zen is lynched and he flips MH. What you are doing seems to be like something a common badly organised scum member would do so I don't really know what to think about your scummyness at the moment.
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On July 25 2010 07:15 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
You know on the other hand, if citizen is red this play doesn't make a lot of sense either, I mean mafia are at an advantage and a gambit like this is really risky and i'm not sure why he would do that instead of just playing it safe.
Ugh, this is confusing.
There could be quite a few reasons to do it:
Smoke out the hatter, plus ask for DTs before counterclaim can happen.
It's also hard to see how much mafia is in an advantage. I'd agree with that but we can't really tell if all our suspects remaining are red.
Also, multiple claims were sorta inevitable so its sort of a question of do you believe who came first or second.
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^ That was directed at siniquity's posts and above
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I bet Tricode and BC are cackling maniacally at their good fortune. Kill a medic, claim 3rd hit + protection (both unverifiable), draw out the other 2 KP roles. Let them kill each other. Bonus is that they're both hatters instead of vigilantes.
So much for 50/50.
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On July 25 2010 07:33 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2010 06:20 chaoser wrote:
You know, I was thinking. The worst case scenario that could happen is SouthRawrea is Bomber, me and him die. Citi.zen is suicide bomber, has blues to hit, kills a bunch. I'm still ready to die with southrawrea, just saying... I would just like to quote this again for people who are like, if south flips MH, we can just kill citi.zen the next day. If he's suicide bomber, it doesn't matter
On July 25 2010 07:37 zeks wrote:
I will personally vote for citi.zen first as soon as the next day starts if SR flips anything other than red.
Way to post something after it has been proven to be an invalid option.
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On July 25 2010 07:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
see bolded part. He wasn't actually cleared with no counterclaim for a reason I listed earlier which was this
IF you were the mad hatter and you saw someone claim your role, You know instantly he's most likely red. You then wait a day, move your bomb to him get lynched following day (confirms both of you). Instead, he said "if no one claims im legit." He did however get a claim, regardless, his point was moot regardless.
Agaisn you are using the fact that people are looking up to you to present some solutions that are not evident at all.Not everybody would play like this I sure as hell wouldn't.
On July 25 2010 07:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
I most likely wont trust citizen until he proves to be trustworthy. He is far too inactive at this point for the plan he proposed. He has legimate concerns raised against him, a counter claim, etc....
Where is he? Nowhere to be found, instead people who have been semi inactive all game have decided to vouch for him. It comes of as extremely suspicious.
Also, it has no matter where he placed his bombs. If he has them on reds or not. A dt circle is still confirmed, and as much as dead townies suck to have, they do lower the dt pool of checked targets finding reds faster. Anyone who flips red dies, then its a hunt for the gf. If you find three of one blue role, boom you found him, etc...
I find it weird that you can chose between two people, oneof them is mafia.
One you have already made a case against and told that he is most likely mafia. Still you vote on the other guy.
Was you play earlier a scam to get people to trust you because you found Southrawrea as mafia?
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Southrawrea, I want you to look me in the eye (figuratively) and tell me you are not mafia.
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